the speakers will redeem. good afternoon mister laugher, off you've just returned from one to revisit and now you're flying away on a trip. again, we have such an international isolation that you don't even have time to be at home . thank you for taking the time to meet with us between trips and it seems we're to mines when it comes to negotiating with ukraine. first we say it's outright impossible and the next we bring up the idea something positive. when i say we, i mean our leadership on all levels from lawmakers to state officials, so our viewers and myself to keep asking ourselves, is there any point in talking to key of or is it just part of the diplomatic decorum that's nicholson was looked at this point there is no point in negotiating with ukraine. ukrainian leadership actually came forward calling on russia to start negotiations. we went with it back then. we were very earnest about the entire process. but these 1st rounds of talks and bell roosters only served to expose ukraine's reluctance to approach any matters seriously. back then we presented to

them our testament of the situation and said, if you're serious about it, then write your arguments down on paper and give us a proper document. so we knew what kind of deal you are looking for variable. they gave us the document, which we supported by the way the president mentioned it when we were ready to sign an agreement, that would be in line with their own logic. we presented to them our own documents, which was let me stress that again for based on their guidelines. on april 15th, they received our proposal, but we have not heard from them since we are hearing though, is the argument repeated by all of shoulds wars. johnson, well, probably won't be hearing any more about that for mr. johnson, but also we're sort of underlying reason and many others, including the use chief diplomat, joseph burrell, all saying that ukraine must win on the battlefield, saying that

t f should not negotiate with moscow. with this point, as its positions on the ground are still too weak, ukraine must 1st gain the upper hand started beating the russian armed forces and the don't ask and guns can malicious and only then from a position of strength, can it engage in negotiations. we also see that t of is literally being held back for making any constructive moves as the country is being pumped with weapons. what's worse, they're being forced to use these weapons and increasingly dangerous ways. it's an open secret and that there are foreign and structures and specialists station there servicing all those weapons systems like harm, ours and so on. our american and british partners, our anglo saxon friends, not without enthusiastic support from germany, poland, and the baltic states. want to turn this conflict into an all out war to pitt, russia, against europe. the americans would profit from it. and so would the british,

because they are watching from afar from across the channel from across the oceans . they are far from the conflict. it's the european economy that suffers the most. we've seen statistics saying that 40 percent of the negative impact of sanctions falls on the european union, while the americans suffer less than one percent of it. if you take the cumulative effect of all the sanctions, i have no doubt of the key of will not be allowed to negotiate with russia until the americans give it the green light. once they are satisfied with the turmoil they have created once a day of rot, enough havoc they will leave the ukrainians to themselves and watch them struggle to pull themselves out of this quagmire. should they think it's really possible this plan of there's a big war, as you just said, show down between russia and european countries. this basically means nuclear war. is it possible? no americans can see that is not a desert for the american desert of the staff in the biden administration are quite

ambitious. their primary concern is getting a new knowledge on their belts. how are they going to do it? i really don't know what their actions are. i would say you're responsible. know their plans and arrangements are fraught with a serious risk because we have been open about it. well, of course, we could have told them about it, but they do not want to talk to us. and naturally, we're not going to run after them begging for dialog. williams and you need, what is russia stance fine? it's not their immediate concern, but do you think this is possible? do we think it is possible to have a show done between russia and europe and nuclear war? we have initiated multiple statements on that score, including a joint statement by russia and the united states. and by the leaders of the 5 permanent un security council members, they all agree. there can be no winners. any nuclear war,

it should never be unleashed. this is our position and we will stick to disposition, but russia also has its nuclear posture detailing conditions that could trigger the use of nuclear weapons and our partners counterparts, rivals, as they now called themselves, versus russia or any nose or adversaries. they know it well that may lead you just by western leaders. many of them are crumbling, one after another. anyway, they're showing signs limited here and let me put it this way or maybe even limited sanity this leaders will some step down. do you have reasons to hope that they will be replaced by someone with a few limitations? someone more coherent was an issue, but there is another way to put it. we can say that the current political crisis in the west is the class of coherence limitations. they think they are coherence, but this is a very limited group of beliefs in terms of political experience and perspective. of course. and why is that?

i don't know. i don't know why that is, but many notices. it's impossible not to notice many notice it and henry kissinger, for example, he recently spoke about it. he mentioned give her schroeder shock schrock. he wasn't rude or anything, but he clearly thinks that there is a stark difference. this middle ground attitude towards political processes. they want to elect uncomplicated politicians will operate in one dimension. staying true to one simple idea. now this whole switching to a green economic agenda soon there will be no air to breathe, which everything will disappear. dolphins fish will die and so on. people will be alone in a desert. now they've got their green economy. president putin covered this in detail before how they built their policies on this foundation. and now it's resulted in a major failure because nothing was thought through the vendors and asked for their

hearings. and i don't know why this is happening. but i guess someone is benefiting from this lack of outstanding leaders who do record of the bureaucrats, the raw children, rockefeller families, they're all dead. these bureaucrats make up the european commission. 60000 people. what a few. they are now, a thing in itself. it is not surprising that countries like poland, sure more hungry sometimes ask, why do we listen to these people? especially in the things that we didn't authorize them to control or dislike a pendulum, the pivots from one side to the other. it was on the side of fast tracked integration, and now it will move to the opposite end. and the demands imposed by rustles, often without any legal faces or agreements, will begin to irritate and get in the way of the internal policies of member states that want to stay true to their culture and religion. like they've been bugging

hungary with their sexual minorities agenda, but the hungarians don't want that. and we don't want that either just like many others. but the european commission starts lecturing that demanding that they change their stands threatening to cut funding even if it was already private. and agreed upon, i don't think this is good for the european union, and there are constant you have to do just that. but this is good for us. you don't wish that, but i don't think it's good for us. i think that we need to distance ourselves from this. we can't be happy if people in europe freeze or have miserable lives blow, knows nothing yet of no, it's not about freezing. maybe they will get tired of being pushed around and finally elected politicians who would pursue national interest and put their people for when. and that means living in peace with russia, because quarreling with russia is not good for any nation. if you, if that is true, yes. and in that sense, i agree. this is probably the right process,

the process of recovery. and when people get rid of allusions, that brussels will decide everything for them. everything will be the same every day. cheap energy sheep, food and everything is fine. i think that we should just take a detached position or do you want to live in such conditions? do you want to get rid of the natural, profitable ties that have been created over long decades and the energy sector, logistics, and transport please? it's your choice. we cannot force them to love us. but once you're done with it, and if you ever will be, you will find that it is very expensive for the european economy. and then them, please don't ask us to go back to some agreements again. because you have proven to be unreliable. and we cannot make long term strategic investments or plans to promote our country and our foreign relations with such partners with them.

european politicians are also completely responsible in terms of explaining. so there are people why the current crisis is broken out to your chancellor sholtes says, i have not the slightest doubt that russia wants to limit gas supply v in north stream for political and not technical. real. sure, he has no doubt. some of you just like the russian president issue, we have repeatedly said that europe has systematically consistently reduce the capacity for nord stream one. how would, how to splendid nor to stream to europe imposed restrictions against nord straightened retrospectively. and despite the fact he says that investments had already been made and you cannot change the rules of capital investment at the state. and nevertheless, the european commission insisted on it. and it was done instead of filling the pipeline to 100 percent. they limited this pipeline to half of its volume. these

are just a few example. this is where we are being blamed. now, as you know, they say where using hunger as a weapon receive on the lion has already said that i think from that alone, hunger and cold and cold, yet we had general frost. remember, now we have general wheat in general heating, you know, miss yellen, who was the us treasury secretary said recently, she made a melodramatic statement that the united states will not allow russia, china, or anyone else, the change, the international economic rules that have allegedly been approved by the entire world. so melodramatic indeed was. and then she went on to say, we are not going to let russia use economic integration as a weapons. this tops the list of the ridiculous statements we have heard from them . it looks like agony when they do not know any longer how to explain their failures. oh,

i know when i would show the same wrong when i was just don't i mean you? yes, to see out the thing because after an engagement equal betrayal, when so many find themselves well, did we choose to look for common ground putting it should that there is a general view that the west will not cope without us. and in many ways this is true, we see it now in the partial lifting of sanctions in that last package that was adopted this week. i didn't understand, by the way, was it a package of new sanctions or a package of lifting old sanctions? but what if they still manage to do it? how do you see the prospect again,

they completely abandon our energy carriers in the future. if not this, then next winter, not launch, nor stream to for example, stop using north stream one resources. is there such a possibility militia? she didn't know, and then she asked for the next announced sanctions packages, where the read involve sanctions or an exemption from sanctions. it is both because they have already exhausted all possible areas where they wanted to inflict damage on it. and now we have to think about what they have done and how it affects them. do it is now that they are beginning to really think about it. so they have made adjustments, as i understand it, to allow servicing russian food as a mortgage for months. so they've been telling us that we are to blame others from the crisis and that food, as well as fertilizers and are not subject to sanctions. so russia come on, don't try to squirm your way out of it and go on with the trade. no one is stopping

you. we have been explaining for months that yes, food itself will be missed and fertilizers are not subject to sanctions, but nobody's shipping it but sharing it, allowing our vessels into foreign ports, allowing foreign vessels to enter our port, to pick up their cargo. so all of this was covered by the very 1st or 2nd sanctions package. you just start with your approval when your service and the process is going to be right. so when they lie to our face and say it's all on truth and it's up to was they play dirty. and regrettably, they tried and are still trying to drag the un secretary general into their games. he came to rush home. he met with putin, when he got concerned about the ongoing food crisis. he proposed a package deal. there is russian grain that needs to be exempted from the artificial illegitimate restrictions i mentioned. and there is ukrainian grain that

needs to be d mind. and he offered to do it as a package deal. if i get harris, we'll get to europe and the united states to remove all obstacles to your grain exports. and you will cooperate with us with the turks, with the ukrainians to d. mind the black sea ports to get the green out. we said in fact, the black sea port can be de mind without us, but if that's how you want it, let's do it. and he was the one advertising this package promoting it last week and our colleagues went to is 10 wall to negotiate this agreement, they agreed on basic principles according to which ukrainian grain would be exported. and then our delegation reminded them. let's at least outline the 2nd part of the deal, but the ukrainians categorically refuse and the un delegation just receded into silent embarrassment. and yesterday we sent a message to mister secretary general. we said, how was that possible?

that was your initiative? well, let's deal with the ukrainian grain now and with the russian grain later. you see, this is so improper, so unbecoming of people involved in big politics. but it is a fact though it means only one thing. i am convinced that the secretary general is under enormous pressure. first of all, from the american, was from the british, who have gained a foothold and the secretariat all around him and the deputy positions. and are actively taking advantage of the structure that they have privatized. it is unfortunate, but going back to your 1st question about what happens of the abandon everything. i think they are now split between firstly, but not wanting to show that they were wrong in any way. and this is what the ruling parties will now do by hook or by crook. they have no other way out to do so let the opposition look. there's austria's freedom party,

which is not very well liked and brussels, but it exists. it is a legal, legitimate party. in other countries, the opposition is rising as well. and they are asking, why are we doing all this? why can't we agree? many people raise such a question. it is not the perception in developing countries that russia has crossed some kind of a red line. they remember what americans did in iraq, see what they did. and again, us down what they did in libya, syria and in the u. s. flavio in 1999, there were no warnings there. there were no admonition is that american interests were being infringed and that something needed to be done. you know, 8 years of trying to negotiate. yes, 10000 kilometers from the u. s. shores, all those countries were bombed cities raised to the ground and no one in europe

dared to say, how was it possible? it's so bad, it's so wrong. be as the and it was not about protecting americans living in those territories. yes, yes. and in our case, i repeated it is a completely different situation, because this is a real threat and not an imaginary ones that you can use as a pretext to stretch your imperialistic tentacles across the ocean. and that is a threat at our border whistles. and as you said, for many years, we have warned that ukraine must not be turned into anti russia. there should be no natal presence there and that one should not create a direct military threat to our security. everybody understands this very well. so coming back to europe, if suddenly, i don't think it's in their interests to cut all ties with us and switch to liquefied natural gas, which americans are trying to foist foyce. yes,

i would have used a stronger word, but voice will do. that is, up to them that the food and some serious scholars have already been saying the germany's economy. you cannot make prosperity achieved over the last decade, was based on 1st and foremost on russian energy. which was sold at the very affordable acceptable, predictable price, which is if all this is converted to ellen g, yes, l n g is a more flexible commodity. because with the pipe, you have to buy gas from where the pipe ends. and l n g can be redirected, but that is also a disadvantage. it was actually because when demand rose and asia, americans re directed their l. n g there because they paid more there. and all of this may result not only in the higher prices, but also in a supply shortage at some point. but if they do that, we won't have much of a problem. the president said that because of their actions regarding nord stream

to we are ready to launch and pipeline pressure is maintained. but in the current situation, 50 percent of the pipelines volume is reserved for our internal consumption. for heating for the chemical industry and other industrial purposes, we will re orient ourselves without any major losses. i have no doubt about that. there are buyers, there is demand. after all, we have domestic needs as well. i'm talking about gas if occasion, the chemical industry that has been our objective for a long time, so that thousands of the settlements with no access to gas. that's right, gas, if occasion, that's what i'm saying. so that is up to that. and i'll see it again slower, but we should nods and the thank god, no one is trying to build any mechanism. so based on the possibilities, probability was, were even desirability for learning to what we had and 6 months ago in order to

restore all these chains more. no, i think these chains have to be terminated and new, more reliable ones are to be created. incipient, that is what we're doing now. we're in the north south corridor from st. petersburg to the indian ocean from india to vladivostok. there are a number of projects that are well underway now if and when, at some point in europe says guys, you know, we overreacted, we are interested in, let's restore our economic and trade relations, which i think we should, we should not punish you. i think we should, we should not push them away, but we have to see how beneficial it is for us. and only then we'll, we'll respond. well, of course, if these career due, once they've crew again, as the russian thing go, that's right. but not the truth, while we still have some time since you mentioned diversifying our corporation

efforts previously, there has been a lot of talk about looking to china and india and flying to africa south. so could you perhaps give us a summary of what you're planning to do there? would you expect to complete and what we should be expecting from this visit due to non, roughly with us, we have enjoyed a good long term relationship with africa. since the times of the soviet union, as you probably know, the new ceasar was spearheading the movement that finally led to de colonization of the continent. we provided assistance in the fight for national liberation, and we helped the emerging sovereign states of africa further to develop their economies. we helped build hundreds of enterprises that are the backbone of the local economies in many parts of africa today. in the united nations, we were in the vanguard of the efforts to have the do colonization, and it's outcomes accepted by the international community for under international law. and we have never been teaching them all we ever did was help them tackle the

tab they wanted handle the way they wanted to is that we help them handle the tasks that they defined as their priorities themselves. we never said anything like, don't be friends with america or anybody else. you see what i mean. there was no preaching, not then, not now, unlike the americans who on their african tours, keep saying things like, avoid contact with china or russia. they always have vested interests whenever they're doing business with you, but also rushes foreign minister pays visits to african countries. every year. we try to schedule the tours to cover as many countries as possible within 24 to 36 months. this year, visits have been planned for egypt. if the opium, uganda, and congo. we have some good history with these countries. and some groundwork has been laid there for business cooperation. egypt is russia's top trade partner in

africa. the annual revenue from our exchange of exports and imports has already reached almost $5000000000.00 us dollars. the construction of the russian industrial zone on the eastern bank of the suez canal in its final stages. the prospects for the zone are all the more promising now in view of the decisions made by the african union last year for the african continental free trade area. the groundwork has been laid and we are now negotiating all the particulars, such as applicable rates and tara for the zone. and this will take some time. this is a very significant project for russia as africa's aspiring business partner. in terms of increasing both our investments and volume of business. africa has a population of 1000000000 and 400000000 people. it's as big as china or india.

and as a huge part of the modern world, perhaps the most promising markets on it is the reason why smart businesses and smart governments have long term plans for africa as the continents with a great future shop. why do you have good relations with other former soviet republics? the former partners are rarely friends, as we know from our personal experience. but sometimes there are exceptions. is that the case with russia with, for example, bell root. what is really going on and has a fan as sending contradictory signals and is it us who are to blame for the situation with found ourselves in for losing them, giving them in a way to europe, the u. s. or even turkey? what do you think? we go to, our government didn't pay much attention to stop the relations with our closest allies and partners from deteriorating, in the early years of newly acquired sovereignty. despite having centuries of common history. and there was a widespread belief that our c,

i s partners had no one else to turn to. or, you know, we'd been together forever. we spoke the same language and had the same education. we even had similar taste. and this is how it went. our economies were interconnected and you couldn't simply cut the ties established over centuries. we didn't have a platform to unite all 5 central asian nations and russia. now we have one, connect was not only our diplomatic, but also economic authorities. this is vital to there is a unified water and energy supply. the us and the e. u. our western partners, as we sometimes call them, are trying to infiltrate these sectors. they offer their programs to shape water and energy industries that have soviet ruas according to their needs, the needs of foreign after food. but most, may i ask about your feelings when you've learned about it. and i remember, well, what i felt when we were at home with the grand and the new scheme. i'm curious,

what was on your mind at that moment, and what's your opinion of the so called scared patrick, who fled from the country and are ashamed of themselves. now the news business newspaper endeavoured ability, inevitability. it wasn't joy. it's hard to feel joy in the face of warfare when your compatriots are going to stand up and risk their lives to defend the just cause. it was inevitable. it isn't. and a relief of sorts that for years we couldn't tell the residence of don bass and our own citizens when this was going to end. because it is the bus and the national. give us the core totally agree with you. motion, how much more could they terrorize the people and scoff at the reasons mark, the resolution of the security council and everything that goes with it? the decisions date, openly sabotage, and so, but usually another luca,

can you not? nancy? him, we all want the operation to finish as soon as possible. we want the people to stop dying. our soldiers and new green civilians showed by their former government that is still considering them. it does your citizens, but that's what it's doing. nonetheless, we don't know when to it and, and i'm not going to ask you as you can't answer that too, obviously. but where should it and your graphically, there should not be any threats to our security, any military threats coming from the cranium territory. and this objective is still in place. you know, when the negotiators met in istanbul, we were talking about a different kind of geography. we were prepared to accept the ukrainian proposals based on that geography. geography of march 2022. the humans, the nance, campbell guns republics, right. that supporting more or less just the geography has changed since they're local. now, it includes not just the don't ask and will guns people's republics, but also the harrison and zappa rosier regions and some other territories. and the

process is not finished yet. it is moving forward consistently and vigorously, while the west is demonstrating its powerless anger and the desire to make things worse by pumping ukraine with longer range weapons like high mars. we will have to continue moving our geographic objectives to further from the existing why and what we can not allow the weapon that pose a direct threat to our territory to be deployed to cranium regions that will be controlled by zelinski or someone who comes after him. yes, this is their chance that we will leave without finishing the job. knees. i don't see any reason why we should del is what the president fed on february 24th and confirmed again a few days ago. we are pursuing the same objectives and we will reach them by the way. sure to thank you again mr. elaborate. my followers asked me to wish you

health patience, courage so you can continue to do what you are doing with us at thank you very much . the, the news the news hungary is foreign minister says to the past, want to buy additional russian gas and cannot get through the coming winter without those imports. that says that you struggle with the backlash of its own sanction. europe thinks deeper into political and economic uncertainty and that's after italy's prime minister steps down his coalition government to collapse and art reports from the people's republic where the ukrainian army has resumed showing civilians after failing to retake territories from russian lead port. we hear from some local caught in the in the crossfire.