a to look so common ground with both euro pole and interpol ring the alarm over the possible influx of weapons from ukraine, making their way to terrorist and criminal groups all over the world. in an attempt to turn it back on russian gas that you looked to africa purging states, there are to produce more fossil fields. that's the spike years of refusing to offer any help or money to the industry, their over carbon emissions concerns. it's not only ukrainian or me that they're fighting against as positions very close to here are full of foreign mercenaries as well on r t crew joins russian,

lead force is on the done. yes. frontline for the army is now targeting ukrainian military positions. locations, which has reportedly been using to show the neighboring city with security forces in crisis hits for a length re the main anti government protest camp. while a senior veteran law maker is born in the new prime minister with wherever you're catching the program from today. welcome to moscow on to the global news roundup an rti, i'm human o'neill, our top story, weapons flowing into ukraine could end up in the hands of criminal guidance. now there's, according to the european union agency for law enforcement cooperation, which also said such networks are active in the region on may attempt to smoke

alarms out of the country. there is a risk that these weapons and military goods will end up in the hands of organized crime or terrorists. well, let's talk more on this with our correspond rachel blevins who is joins me here in the studio. hi there, rachel? yeah, this isn't the 1st warning. about weapons and ukraine potentially ending up with criminal even terrorist gangs. take us through it. yeah, this is just more of an official warning now coming from europe's top law enforcement agency, that weapon they're actively being smuggled from ukraine into europe and being sold on the block market. now this latest report from the agency notes that there are alarming risk of weapons smuggling and that those arms are getting into the hands of criminals and gangs. it also notes that they found evidence of a build up of weapons and ammunition along the border, indicating that this problem is likely much more widespread than is being reported now intervals secure or secretary general rather has already warned that this is

a concern and that there's not much on their end that they can do about it. take a listener, we had to say once the guns fall silent in ukraine, the illegal weapons will come. we know this from many other theaters of conflict. criminal groups tried to exploit these chaotic situations and the availability of weapons, even heavy weapons. we can expect an influx of weapons in europe and beyond. we should be alarmed, and we have to expect these weapons to be traffic not only to neighboring countries, but to other continents. now even though this hasn't received a lot of coverage, it has been a major concern as the us and its allies have started that steady stream of weapons to ukraine. and especially as the binder administration is admitted in the past, that it can't do much in order to attract those weapons once their son overseas. and this comes hot on the heels of the life of the ukrainian president, making a rare trip to the u. s. that weapons related to, isn't it? that right, ukraine's 1st lady visited washington d. c this week and she had sort of been usual meetings with top us officials and

included secretary and state lincoln as well as president biden, just before his cobra. 1900 diagnosis was revealed, but she also went to speak before congress. and you know, similar to the addresses that we've seen, her husband give the u. s. congress. she also called for more aid from the united states and for more weapons. here's what she said. thank you. yes, it has pursued each. i'm asking for something. now i would never want to ask what i'm asking for weapons. ruined it. now as her, those questions about accountability regarding the weapons that already have been sent or that stand to be sent to you praying that wasn't really part of the conversation on this visit is were suppose one question is, will this report the statements give pause for a thought to washington because the u. s. has been signing off on one military, a package for ukraine after another while you're absolutely right. and so far the answer to that is no. you know, the united states still is acting as if this isn't

a problem. may because because it's not happening to them. but the latest statements that we've heard from the u. s. have been to continue to say that they have received assurances from ukraine and that they are relying on those statements . the u. s. very severely takes our accountability to guard american origin defense applied sciences and forestall their diversion or elicit proliferation. whereas shared within the ukranian authorities, dedication to appropriately safeguard and account for us weapons. so a pretty notable break there between the u. s. in europe right now, and it remains to be seen how that will affect their alliance overall. racial thanks for taking us throughout our tea correspond rachel blevins. well, let's indeed delve further into the issue. i'm happy to welcome onto the program conflict consultant on political come to her, ted. see? hi there. it said. was it always inevitable that some of these western weapons would end up in criminal homes across the world?

yes, of course that happens in every situation where the weapons are being supplied into a theater of war. there's always diversion. there's always profit taking by someone somewhere and where that happens and where there's black or even gray market weapons that are being trafficked. some of them are going to end up in criminal hands. you're someone who's worked extensively in arms control with the u. s. government to, from your experience that how starter is american oversight on military a sent abroad to be brutally honest, largely theoretical. i worked in the political military bureau at the department of state for 2 years in the mid ninety's. i personally reviewed thousands of applications for export licenses for arms and related technologies. and i can tell you that even at that stage, a lot of it was cursory on the part of the state department in the u. s. government . in general. beyond that, you're relying on something called end user assurances,

which is basically what the us, the vitamin ministration is. talking about that the ukranian government is promising that nothing will happen to the weapons once they're providing to them. they are, they are assuring the donors that there will be no further movement of those weapons, which frankly, they can't do. they don't have the where with all the track, all the stuff that's coming into their country right now. they're getting flooded with weapons and jack knology and ammunition and ammunition in particular, is notoriously difficult to keep track. yeah, just to break that down for audience, that's exactly what i wanted to talk about. you're assigned to the u. s. mission to nate. so nato says that it trusts its allies and key to keep the weapons safe, was the common practice. and her responsible policy is when we're, when we're talking about heavy weaponry and a lot of it there's all sorts of deadly technologies being provided right now. and each of them comes with its own unique difficulties in keeping track of i worked

for the political, military bureau and state. i also worked as a 2nd, d to something called the boston or arrangement in vienna, which is voluntary attempt by arms export nation, including the russian federation, the u. s. ukraine, canada most western europe. to try and do something about squeezing the grey market and where possible, eliminating the black market in weapons and dual use technologies and it can't be done. you can make a good faith efforts to try and limit the amount of stuff that gets traffic, but it can't be stop any more than drug trafficking can be stopped on. will these warnings slow or stop the flow of weapons into ukraine or, or is the west or western countries and tend to squeeze russia as much as possible regardless of what the fall i may be. i don't see this as being a key issue in slowing down l i z as in for supplying

dangerous things to ukraine. quite frankly. i don't see this is big enough to change minds about what ought to be done because it's still being billed to the publics in the country to some sort of crusade. and so the pipelines will remain open. there may be more lip service have the things like and use the insurance is and you know, inventories and that sort of thing. but in a war zone, this particular once something gets to the ground, unless you're keeping an eye on it 247. and unless you're keeping on, it is scrupulously honest, some stuff is going to walk away. is it over confidence or just in the ability to know what's going to happen when western governments believe that it's achievable to get this listed weapons market under control? is that something on their radar and how serious are the implications for stability in europe? and indeed, further afield when they get out. well,

one of the other things i've done is, is offered a chapter in legal reference on the arm trade treaty. back in 2015. i wrote the chapter on ammunition and munitions, and again, that stuff really difficult to keep track of. no one is claiming 100 percent effectiveness in preventing divergence and preventing gray market sales in stopping the black market from thriving. i'll give you an example when i was with the state department. during the mid ninety's, we had a number of countries that were donating weapons to various bits of the former yugoslavia. and then shortly after that the coast of a war in 99. there was more stuff going in to help the coast of our albany. and well, one of the side effects of that is that the baby and drug and car smuggling gangs ended up being some of the best armed people in europe. and just finally to, it's not as if there's not recent precedents on this. if you look at some of the terrorists, the islamist terrorists groupings in syria,

they were using some of them american made weaponry to, to, to kill people who had been protected before that by americans. it was an absolute mess. is that not a real worry for the the defense department right now that that's going to happen again and they're going to bag in their faces. if the television ever runs short of hard cash, they've got a few things lying around that they could sell in the world market. the order severed several $1000000000.00 worth thanks to the way that the u. s. lead from afghanistan in a disorderly fashion. so this is always a problem and in current times it's more of a problem than ever. and yes, i think the ukranian situation is also going to come back and bite a lot of people that have donated arms and munitions do many times for your time, your thoughts today ted see, conflict consulting and arms control expert the

russian defense ministry said within the past 2 weeks for advanced. hi, mars us, rocket launchers have been destroyed in the bustle fields. the m o. d also say that force is destroyed a school building in the city of parameters which reportedly been transformed into a temporary shelter for a nationalist battalion called the block. on to 300 loads were said to have been built in the compass, us ukrainian forces continue to fight in the done yes. can luc ganske regions, they are reportedly doing not using us supplied high morris rocket systems to attack tons in both republics. the city of the next is also under attack from neighboring of df camp. one of kias news fortified strongholds in dawn passed. taken us through that ortiz room on cost of who joined russian lead forces on the

ground. he sent us this report. today we're working near the town, all of dave cal, which is still under control of ukrainian military. now we're here along with nascar international brigade who have been at the forefront of defense against that ukrainian or me here in dynamic. now i spoke to a few soldiers and here, and they told me that it's not only ukraine, an army that they're fighting against as positions very close to. here are full of foreign mercenaries as well written used to carry it at the fog. still, it's no secret, it's a fact that a lot of mercenaries are fighting for ukraine. both nato and the european union help them. it doesn't matter whether they do this openly or not. but yes, there is the george and legion which is located opposite us. there are also polls and americans. we came across them and everything has been filmed on video cameras . everything is recorded. they have very different uniforms. of course, they fight differently because they are instructors themselves. you know,

we have been preparing for this for a very long time. and ukraine has been preparing for 8 years, and the nato instructors help him train them, supply them with weapons and teach them to use these weapons. ah, ah ah ah ah, international brigade, but not care consist mostly of volunteers from what i understand it through hard to

get into this particular unit. now they have been at the forefront in this conflict against ukraine over the last 8 years. and of course, they have shown this frank over the last 5 months, as well as they have been at the front here in the day of god and did serving the ukranian army from entering this city. and they have been shilling ukrainian positions from where they at sacked, peaceful civilians here in dunn. it's another good coordinator. this is the agony of hopelessness. like when an animal is cornered, it's sometimes bytes itself on the tail. why else are they shelling civilians? they probably hope the civilians will rebel and say stop this go and surrender. for 8 years the people endured this lawlessness and now all their agony is heavily concentrated. that's why they do this. you ukrainian army have been in dave guy and pesky near the nest for the last 8 years. so there are positions there have been really heavily fortified by the situation has changed drastically over the last 5

months. and the fighters off did not change their national brigade are waiting for their chance to liberate those cities. roman costs are of r t done as people republic. oh, okay, moving all. no, i want to show you some live pictures that we are receiving from its thumb bowl, where ukrainian russian, turkish, and un delegations have gathered to sign a deal on ukrainian grain under the exports which are currently blocked in block c courts. you consider the turkish president addressing, assemble delegates on the press it as well on that issue just to go through it. while he speaking the agreement at would see the creation of a car a door for the safe passage of week to international waters. and then on to world markets, a big issue, the closest meeting at coming, made

a global. so food crisis affecting both in developing states like particular acute though in africa and asia, we've been talking through on the program for some not just to tell you another aspect of this meeting, russia and ukraine signed papers only with their mediators, the delegation on each other russia sent its defense minister to conclude the deal while the korean cent minister of the infrastructure. yeah, a lot of hope relying tissue from that agreement that we're going through and opening up a big issue was ukrainian mines in the blocks, the russia thing, unless those minds were removed. booking the shipment, some other kind of fact on how to transport areas could not move the the wheat on to other countries just to let you know as well. un secretary general antonio chair is turkey. president. richard. hi. i've heard one who's been talking

they're just finished in fact, acted as inter media trees earlier this week the russian president met the latter in around to discuss the issue when we know a little bit more in this the actual clarifications, the white and what's exactly been agreed upon, we will of course, bring to so just to recap, live pictures now from it's done bowl. were at some delegates from ukraine, russia, turkey, the u. n. has gathered to sign a pack on green exports, a huge issue in the world wide. you know, there are some, some work on the o. e. u states are ramping up cooperation with several african countries to secure vital energy resources outside the at block scramble to get new gas and oil suppliers to replace russian deliveries ahead of the colder months under coming arthur. some example, 15 agreements were append between italy and jury,

and boosting gas and supplies. france has at reached outs on developed new ties with the united arab emirates in the energy sector. the u commissions president earlier son to deal with as are by john to double gas imports from the country. and germany has established ties with senate goal to reduce its dependence on russian energy. however, all those policies appear to contradict the use previous strategy for many years. brussels has been thwarting african initiatives to develop it's fossil fuel sector on pipeline construction. in refusing to from the efforts that you claimed it was vital to reduce global carbon emissions. not approach was met with heavy criticism as african states. so no other alternatives for their own economic development are countries cannot achieve in energy transition and abandon the polluting patterns of the industrialized countries without a viable fair and equitable alternative. stopping funding for the gas sector would be a major obstacle. nevertheless,

fossil fuel production on the continents increasing south africa has already exported more colon 2022 than in all of last year african states. they've welcome another new deals. we've just been spoken about viet, it has to be pointed out their own problems, like regular power shortages remain. director of economic modeling and south africa . we spoke to describe the decision as an act of hypocrisy, claiming that the long term impact in africa will be harmful. or, you know, we'll go to quote, encouraged africa club by the world. the focus is it will step critique when they actually suffer the slightest inconvenience of cold and fresh to the economy. any resource that is abundant, the price of broke too much to ease the case that belong game for europe, for by both resources. for, for scrap, embed pro, process them,

and then sell them back to africa. at the premium. is usa, why don't we use the grades law to see to eat that we clean go. be clean oil. so that the energy that come from there is actually green. you don't say suggest solution to patmos and then suddenly leave them there and see that we've been too cold. close our claims are threatened levels enough ago or has been threatened from korea influence li buddy from us. italy's right wing brothers of italy party are leading in the polls following the resignation of the italian prime minister, which itself at follow the ruling coalition. government collapsing after a key vote. the political turmoil in rome house, the fears and locals too, with mario drive, his decision to stepped on coming. i made stressful times for italians. it's

a shame, but we have lost a very relevant person and quite hard times. await us lima. with a new government, we will have to demonstrate our national and international credibility other than if the government does not respond or manage to communicate with europe effectively . there can be negative consequences. obviously, europe needs to have reliable partners. oh, it's a disaster disaster. we have made a mess of this and the consequences will be very serious. with dragging his resignation comes amid italy struggling with high inflation, increased borrowing call seller food, price prices to, to drive conditions in the country. you know, the p m support initially fell apart like when the left leaning 5 star a party abstain from a confidence vote on a 26000000000 euro out of cost of living package and that part of the group. it also splits with mr. druggie over his hard line of continuing military aid for kiev, advocating a diplomatic approach instead. meanwhile, the brothers of italy,

which has formed a coalition, including the mateo se, se conservative leading to right wing a legal and silvio berlusconi forces italy is pulling ahead of the main as center left group the democratic party. so a lot of massive nations, a lot happening in italy. i'm always happy to welcome on to the program to discuss all that. dario what a voltage, international relations expert and former italian politician, sir, you are very welcome. what do you make of trees? resignation wasn't necessary. or, or did he have other options? no, i think he has no other option for the moment the because he's government that practically was already arrived at the end. is for sure. the real part you want to d was the decision of a 5 star movement. not the voting, the federal government, but even if they would that vote, it was just

a matter of time that government indeed was finished. you have a lot of italians though. i'm just reading some of the translated italian press. dario thing up there. disappointed that mr. druggie resigned because that led to political turmoil that he should have attempted to stay on on friday to lessen some of the chaos. is there anything in that we could have less than what is happening if he had stayed on a little longer it was possible for him to remain longer. i understand that those that are complaining about the fact that he resigned. but as it was saying before, in the, the, in the fact that he's government was arriving already at the end, the competition inside the different parts to that war constituting the majority where increasing day by day. and even for a compet amana as a was,

it was becoming impossible to go one. now i think it these annual follow to complain about. he's our assignment. indeed a he was either any judge and very competent, competent, that he's a person that has been appreciate that even outside not by every one but the by most but that's not the math. and i think that indeed it is much better for you now to decide to, to try to have a new government the stronger than he's when maybe not the we the so large majority. but the only the battle. we say the actions, we say how strong that will be. the next very, very interesting reading miserables to isn't it in those polos right now you've got right wing parties favor than the pinion polls right now. one of them,

the 2018 brothers of italy, burly, got 4 percent. what does that tell us about current political sentiments in italy? before the election. there are 2 man bass. follow up to manson. for the moment the looks of their central right, the may be the future. we know and most probably it will be like that for brother. so legally easier for the moment, the stronger the, the strongest, the among the 3 big parties composing this and derived that. and i think of that he will also, mon good, the 3 he will have the bigger number of a member of parliament in the future. for sure. due to the fact that the steel we are 2 months in advance, it is too early to be sure what will happen,

because the public will be una, may be influenced by a lot of things. and for many votes, their final decision may arrive only in the last days. but the say that i will be very much surprised if the central ride will not achieve a very good results. very interesting. just i understand that there's a lot of there's a lot of work to do before the next government becomes in place and who rules the country. but if i can put some, some ramifications of the next vote to you. there is a popular thought that the material solving is right wing league on silvio berlusconi for italia, their pro russian leaning. or at least not until moscow can we expect a hard line on russia to change if they come to power. just your thoughts on that. very frankly, this is very difficult to say. then the, now we have not to forget that in the bottom into all the spot.

but the brothers will be that anyway, it was not the majority of all these by the express themselves. in favor of that, i get this easy on consuming garage and will grow and even a brother, so legally, even if they were not the majority today participated to live. all i know by sure that inside of these, by these that a lot of lament that you know that the do not agree. that choice is made by the government concerning russia craner. but it is too early for now to understand that what they will do once a day will be on the water without a b, b they, they will graphic 5, t i o for sure that the what i did, you will we be changed, but it is not so easy anyway, because they have to change it in face to public opinion on what they did up to.

now we see using the pain, which would be that i told you that if they will have the code of saying good while they really think, or if they would be compelled to the image they gave up to now families from the situation. well, thank you for breaking down the situation on some of the ramifications of it. dario revolt, a international relations expert and former politician live from milan. thank you. sure. like is new president is busy forming his governments after taking over the top job on wednesday. he's chosen veteran politician, to nash good nowhere. dina, the new prime minister, despite the attempts to bring stability to the crisis, head nation must protest, continued inter friday morning. the local security forces arrested several people and cleared the main camp. the

protesters had occupied for more than 3 months. they had been demanding the south asian countries leaders resign over the economic chaos being witness. army and police arrived in trucks and buses shortly after midnight, removing tense and protest bombers. the armies also secured the presidential office in order to correspond runjun sharma reports from the city in the date of the night long could all me as well as the police force clamped down on several protesters. they appealed the grounds. all the presidential secretariat which happened occupied by the poor test last 4 weeks. several people were injured last night including if you will. john lives as far as we know, 8 people at least 8 people have been arrested so far. golfing green, which essentially has been the face of these anti government protests, has also been cleared by the sri lankan army, as well as the police force remembered went around to become a thing you got to let.