i think with my eating exam and i am from the i don't usually and i'm here to have seen on the 13 years ago. actually the interesting such as don't be any writing something started long ago. and they started reading books about format that i could find. and then i came to the conclusion that leasing the union and there was nothing written about it. and in general, in the 2nd i need to come environment or is always at rescue for logical sides. and i thought it was missing a kind of exploration of the of or is it not going to need sales? and what about the current site? like you said? so this started longer for me to see him. and by the way, yes, in the book i mention this data about schumer's i, i quoted this very interesting research because it was

a very long research. you started 1970 and they're willing wiring many dimensions. i'm trying to be off to the present time. i know that other research is in a different countries in the west, but they said basically this one results. so it's not the only thing the folks are actually everywhere in western countries. there is this kind of a result like 9 man on 10 and maybe nowadays 767, we went over 10 years ago on consumer. so i don't think hawks plays disrespected object of many jokes about the temperament of the finish nor we boys here in russia. in your book, you show very elegantly how for one of your somewhat deleted fascinations to amass phenomena. and i think 50 years for starting with the lives ation in denmark and

done in the united states in the 1970s. and i was surprised to learn that the collapse of the soviet union being the country where i was born and also needed a major contribution to the industry in what way. well formed, developed for many or let's say for a 100 years probably in a very nice style for just the accessible by few people in the taking the western countries like you mentioned by the end of the sixties and the beginning of the seventy's form of production and distribution was allowed just by goals in some countries, starting with denmark in the us down from the many other countries. so my book is about mass form. so it's mostly to the period of the last few years and especially dedicated to jenny's for men, the sexual men. this is important to say the phenomenon to say why nowadays,

so i tried to focus on what is still the mainstream for an hour. and during the seventy's and the former was a kind of side, the industry to industry. and actually there were unions in many countries and after movies they were trying to structure their work as any other work. but when, so if you didn't call out there was a massive amount so many years and women basically we need to do anything in order to earn some money which of course, into the western world. so to say, and these change completely the landscape for industry because it went towards a more can anybody with a camera would feel no use something and then the internet was the 90. so basically,

these 2 factors together created the new landscape where all the unions and also the rules of the previous to see were swept away by using, you know, so yes, the coming from especially rain bell rose and russia actress used to say change the landscape, correct. me if i'm wrong, but from what i heard you say in other engineers, it's not just about the the nature of oregon, how actress is paid and how they are protected. but also about the style should have been the aim of the product itself because i heard you say before the back in the seventy's and eighty's. it was much more about the neutral pleasure, but damage shifted to formal violence and dominating kind of genre. do you attribute that to a cultural influx of women from before somebody union or is it just the

nature of time itself or the nature of male sexuality that has changed the word farm? this is a very interesting question. well, i would say that the the availability of women willing to do anything went well together with the, with the increasing they're going to work stream was already present in the seventy's in ages. but it was more regulated, especially in the seventy's since the previous decade. the $64.00 in the west would be changes, social changes, their families, the movements and movements. and so in that moment the fact that was representing female sexuality as a joy, fool, and disconnected from procreation. as a pleasure for women, whether they be new st. adamant in that moment. so it was already

extreme doing the seventy's name is. i mean we can find the extreme back to them too. but definitely didn't fear was much different from the current form, which has been much about using a woman for me, a pleasure. i wouldn't dare to say that there was a cultural contribution from the side of the women. i think patriot was already there. and the idea that actually we could exploit all these we've been willing to do anything just was market advantage. so now one of the essential ideas in your book is that technological inventions, in your demonstrate how point is a logical intervention. i'm not natural, they don't just satisfy me when they form and shape them. sometimes with pretty malicious, insidious motives. i wonder how do you,

yourself try to maintain it's not an autonomy you've done some degree of dependency on on those technological tools, forums and anything out there. why is interest in question? in a way human beings have always been technology goes on the very 1st time when somebody created the container to bring the water from the river to the cavern, which already baffled technology. coming you mention something out of the nature of the last 100 years saw a dramatic change in our landscape to the point that technology according to the us, that they often became the subject of history and actually use a premium we as human beings are on the co, historical to technology. so definitely will even acknowledging a word that is just one of the manual objects technology. but all of this objects

that surround us. and that is not only a tool in our hands and depends on how we use bad. this is a kind of nice position, according to anders. he's claims that actually we should be worried about how technology use us, which is a reverse perspective where knology actually can change deeply our human, our emotions and the way we are in the world. it's a fact that technology is the current word, so i don't think that we can, we can imagine we're without it, it's a very, very difficult processed balance. our relationship with technology, with the knowledge or we're i think that the starting point is to question seriously our technology, the landscape. and i, i mean, i try to do is even though the topic is much wider than or your massive or

under the german industrial for lots of our who in many ways was ahead of his time foretelling the dangers of being blamed by technology. so i saw that his 2nd book of athletes was titled the apple lessons. ma'am, i know that you don't like judging moralizing in any way, but do you think by and large, 40 years after the publication of this book we have come to, you don't be in for kind of being cruel and that people are not all of them, but by and large losing touch not only with the free period in them or but also the bodies because when you look at both these fear this just embodied in the same time as a change union of awkward union without a union. yes, yes. you're right. yeah, i personally,

i think the word is 5 by now present. i really wonder how he would have preceded the current needs and words, for example there on because many sections were based on radio and g. it's great. you're mazing, he was foreseeing stuff in that are really much more talking about the current. although he died i think he ages. so before the ancient. yeah, i do believe that the word is, is prevalent in this moment. i know that there are many other seems. there's that much more positive about ecology and there is just, let's say the normal development of human consciousness are going towards that. i am closer to this worries, so to say and the responsibility to discuss. i am

worried that the more well i, interestingly that this, by the human being so much ahead of his time. he is not widely published in english . you know that, that is, you know, what we usually think of the western world as the, and the driver of the 3rd and the 4th industrial revolution. and yet that very few translations of his work that mostly on when i mature in nature, i wonder if that is just an unfortunate happenstance to you, or if you think it's that are a form of deliver, it will actually ostracizing. yeah, well as an analyst it's hard enough to see that there is a mean repression on this work industry to this or a finally published this. i found out this year there is a big work. i think it's published in america around this war works general. it's

some 500 pages book, so they have now finally translated into something and spoken to him. it's interesting because his 1st thought was published. you handled the 2nd world war 48 . i think the 2nd 180 or 90. for the sam, i could find a translation and it was already existing since the sixty's, but in the true word. so to say, i mean, last year maybe august. so i see it as a little bit of a regression because it was a very critical voice. especially for him and he was also contemporary of young and i think union ideas are also seeing a bit of a revival. so maybe it's a synchronistic went that in a way that we're coming back to prominence anyway. you're do we have to take a very short break right now? we'll be back in just a few moments. thank you. ah

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rate trust rather than a with artificial intelligence. real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with a welcome back to will support that georgia tech article, a clinical psychologist from finland and also law god assist a kaleidoscope on foreign georgia before the briefly touched it. one, this very central idea in your book as well as in the world. but there are, there's that logical inventions are not natural tools. they not only satisfy our

needs, but also shape and foster them. and sometimes they even create our needs. and you provide a very interesting example of coca cola is something that for many people socially managed to hijack that basic need for 30 stand by claiming to satisfy and it actually increases it. and i think that's a very sort of common thing within the big food industry as well as within the big pharma industry because they're very, a lot of very obnoxious teenage is there. if you look at the most prevalent disease is metabolic diseases, right now be diabetes. dementia, a, b, c, many of them would be trace to people are being hooked on certain foods or uncertain habits. and i think one is perhaps to read, recreating the same dynamic in certain populations. it could be very helpful to sound very imaginative to some, but in many people it also creates

a dixon and i understand it's a very complex question. i understand you don't like passing judgments, but where do you think we should start in terms of both assigning responsibility? because you know how budgets are something that we are all concerned about? it is a public good and also helping people develop a helpful and sort of mutually respectful relationship with technology and the new inventions and the industries that produce them. yes, a will require a lot of time to, to reflect on where she's ok. well, i would say to taking the example corner and the aim of my book or so to show different sides of it, which is something that i didn't find that many books. i called the book

a kaleidoscope, or video that every shop there should have been a color and all the colors together. they were forming kaleidoscope so that the reader can turn the book. so do say and see maybe some configurations or others from these in order to, by the question mean when it is a complex form, is having the ability to see many colors and, and embrace this complexity is this 1st step we have to do before doing what you were asking the same about technology technologies, a very complex it was a lot of reflections. and so to say deepening here many aspects before we, we can decide something about what can we do in order not to be just addicted. so okay,

thought it was missing mableton or was the complexity they were only focusing on some aspects for example, addiction or are logical perversion. but for me is a very complex object that actually is just a good symbol, many other phenomena of our carrying to work. so what you asked the requires 1st of all to know much better and are so much deeper level, a job. and then we can try to understand what can we do about it. well, we can invite our years to get your book to reflect on it, but i can tell you from a personal perspective, that's one of the very simple but for some reason during a typo id for me was that mean not just leave it in our bodies but we are the body and the desiring bodies demonstrates it in a, in

a very interesting way. and there is actually, i think it's huge differences in perceiving yourself as. ringback living in the body and actually imagining yourself that same body. can you, can you speak about that a little bit? yes, this is, this is an important for me to because for example and experience i technology can get through a screen basically where these are videos or pictures of how that knology invites kind of splits with the bobby b. because we look at some checks and sex performance. and the only senses that we are using in that moment are b sides and hearing because there is but actually sex as a real experience, as an important experience, it would be much more involving the others, like a smell and most of all very interesting how, like you said before,

these are kind of mutation of opposites, like what is a sexual thing. but actually, it doesn't have anything to do with the sexual embodied experience. because we're just sitting in front of the screen. there's nothing a physical there. there are some physical things, i mean my only physical people, not just watch they, i think use that imagination and sometimes that happens. ringback to all of that, i mean there is not the an embodied experience with the people are shouts, but it's not, it's not the same thing as a real sexual kid can actually ask you about them. because i think this is a fascinating question and sexuality is one of the sort of 5 basic things that's calling and identified. and i think more than others, it requires the presence of the other, you know, unions like to talk about the the benefits of living

imagination. but i was perhaps a downside to that. as a clinical psychologist. what are some of the dangers of living out too much of your sexuality in this imaginary reality? yes, well, this is also very important to i believe that the union, but all of the 2nd work, let's say it's very much leaning on the verbal side. and we tend to not get too much attention to the body, but there are movements so to say in the 2nd world that are trying to improve the body level much more. and there are very interesting crossovers between, for example, you theory and authentic movement or dance therapy and other things that are more of the body. so yeah, there is always nice to disconnect from the physical and bodied experience there is

the need to keep together like the imagination, but also the, the body lever. so important, just acknowledging the mindset discrete from the body experience in a way. and this is one example, i mean this is happening a lot with technology that we can disconnect from the body. we can disconnect from the emotions, we can just keep them from ethics because we just watch a video with our responsibility and what's going on and maybe some violent video or something. the speaker was that the we would, we would never do the reality still. we are enjoying something which is violent. so there's a lot of questions that are poor by the splittings, and definitely try to reconnect to body and mind of much more. also, in theory, i think there's a huge put out the wrong because to look at the data despise this very wide

availability for the people around the developed world. i have a less that they're having it later in their lives. it's also less creative, not only because of their birth control, but also because of the precipitously falling print cones, in many of the white man, if you step outside the point for a while, what do you think is happening with human sexuality in general? within this larger view of technology and the, the 4th industrial revolution that we're about to enter. yeah, well, on one hand, there are many signs of crisis. like you were mentioning. only other i'm reading so many interesting books that are address and try to being new ways and very interesting ways. i her mind a speech the authors fema authors but i am reading a lot of books about to try to see and couple relationship already. ann marie and

many you say development, so really sex. so like you said in the beginning there was some opposite phenomena happening at the same time. there is a crisis of the previous way, maybe sexuality, the patriot prizes, investing also the way 6, right? it has always be tended and hopefully, you know, new elements are starting, circulate, you will change the landscape in the future. so i hope that we will have all better sex and better relationship with them. yeah. well, and have a better relationship with reality, which i think is the goal of any psychological school, but especially in psychology, seen as one of the allow reality to really real gone like magic to mere mortals. since you have the word, goddesses in the title,

what do they have to do with base activity asked for? and yeah, i know we have a very short time left to so i just try to make a huge about maybe, maybe the listen. i would be curious to see in the, in the more expensive way. and i had the idea that say, the hypothesis that a factor of fascination for form should be found also outside the usual logical explanations is definitely fascinating for the majority of men and women around the world to be one of the genders. and i believe that reducing everything to the g 2 narrowing. so my hypothesis is that actually corner corner, it's possible to find some sheens to what are the heroes was connected to the sake

of a big topic or you know, the year of the say there was a place in a place beyond the bad a place or place of the got the base of the human beings. so in a very strange way, or somehow something has to do with the under certain shade. and i explain it in the book, but it's really along their topic now. and so the reason i sense that the form that there is some hint to the secret that actually is fascinating because believe that the soccer eyes were a statement. that is, dad can say that the secret has disappeared as a you know, any union of what they have replied to you. that what kind of a,

whether he's called the not the, the guys are still present it. it's a matter of seeing and perceiving them and having a right relationship with them to, to have to leave it there. i wish i could have more time to discuss fascinating book, and i invite our readers to to get it that you have an advantage over reference. i think it's still available around the world on amazon. so to take a chance on thank you very much. with this possibility to talk. thank you. what you hope to hear again next week? all the part ah, with mm ah

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