driven from the western end of the propaganda is the somehow in russia is using energy as a weapon. when, when did that happen? well, edema, i mean, the real political weapon here has been sanctions. the only thing that really change with russian energy policy be the v europe is that the russian said this, the base of started charging in rubles, which it makes perfect sense because of the sanctions in the prom. then those swift system, russia being shut out, i mean, if they continued paying in dollars or euro's, it would just be frozen, encompass dated. so, i mean, that's the only significant change. and we all of the uproar over north stream one . well it's, it's back in business. ok, most of the gas is flowing again. i mean, it doesn't really make any sense to me what they want to do, and there is no unity in the european union. so what is russia supposed to do these of the, the, you have to deal with independent in the, in the, of the individual members of the you. because the, you, as a whole,

has no coherent policy. what say you deem a well, or i think sometimes they, you just blaze all the stuff on just a very often they just use this phrase. butcher is using gas as a wiper. they don't even add the adjective political. so people have these, oh, terrible images or mode will one. so this is a terrible phrase. you have to say in your, you know, so these people, i'm deeply dishonest even in the way they express their dissolves. but you are absolutely right about what i would go collective insanity. the problem with you is that the song, well, it's members, is a what less racial then every member they can get. i mean all that most tragic, most plateful done. so the, you were taken collective. i mean,

the situation with russia is just the latest example. the experts in germany, for example, the n e o and conference. you know, he says, basically like a 100 percent dependence on russian guess. bulgaria is almost 100 percent event. this is in the magazine dungeon. so even if germany thinks that it can provide for itself who is thinking about go get it right. the 2nd, the 2nd such example is syria. i'm in the and that's remember all the events develop well key. there were disturbances, there are products in syria and, and do ever so instead, or either stay neutral or how been off in the middle of the road solution. the you can elect to really support the, the,

the position and we know the result, you know, the civil war, the gears. so all of them were painful. you can, you connect if you know, i'm terrified voice. there's no collective though there's no solidarity here. george is in the country right now in hungry. they basically won't say it on this program bit. they went their own way. it was put it that way. george. yeah, no, that's right. you back. last week the home get in for a minute. be those type. the also flew to moscow breaking around with the rest of the you and sign the agreement with russia for 700000000 metric tons of natural gas. he did it because i'm going to need gas hunger aaron's as a well, we're not sharing any yes. with anyone,

with a day off, the european commission issued this new dig that of demanding the all you member states reduce the gas consumption by 15 percent of those. and that would be a protest from a number of states including spain and portugal, and greece saying, well, why should we come back when our gas use? this is a german problem. it is very much a boss of the way the germans do this. i mean, the germans make these big decisions and then they force everyone else to live with . this is, i mean, casing point is of course the, the decision of i'm going to michael 2015 to start bringing in immigrants into europe, which everyone else was on the, on their own and obligation to say, well, have a peculiar understanding of solidarity. don't they have it?

we do it. everybody else that solid arity. yes. that yeah, exactly. and in fact, it was germany that has been very dependent on russian. yes. and then he was germany that made these extraordinary decisions like canceling the stream too. at the very last moment. so, and this is why the europeans allow, say, you know, a well, where was germany when we needed them out of the 2008 prices. 6 and we need a bailout, or something the john as a well, sorry, we don't have the money to bail anyone out. so now the europeans are supposed to bail germany as well. and also we had, over the last few days, we had a pipeline that was supplying europe that you know, that has been agreed to. and so you know, it, again, this adds to the quandary here. i mean, bretton the cut of energy,

but it's ukraine. that is reckoning the cut off russian energy customers in europe . so i mean, went, where's the, where's the angered towards the ukrainians for threatening europe, energy security go ahead. doesn't make any sense. well, it makes sense, but i was logically, there you go, that's made. but it may sound well for the, i'm sorry, it was, what was the war? just all the states opposing north jim. bon, enrolled student to me. they said that these raj get has to go. so the grain will get russia said, all you know, we are wanting to continue to supply through the brain. but that just makes sense to me. now that you know no, no, no way to deal with. now that there is basically this terrible

confrontation within russia and ukraine. your brain is charging some of these. i stay in the line what they call the occupied. so i mean, roughly to gain weight even though it was doing, i think it will be you that said the usual all rely but you bring bolts to do is dim, explained to our audience, what does the united states up into? what is your be in energy? can you explain me? why do they poking their beacon to something that is so important? we're not talking about, you know, the size of the cato here. we're talking about people going to be warm in the winter. you're absolutely right, united space now and you know, but this russian drummond pipeline, i mean what we'll do, i'd say that, oh, with the pose a pipeline from canada, united states, but in fact, go by for us. brilliant. you know,

he created all the programs in american had to do supplies, but we never even thought about raising any questions about pipelines between mexico and canada. united states being the right to, you know, to pronounce judgment. one, russia, russian government project to impose sanctions, all the companies participate in it. and before that donated states and worked against policy, which was basically aimed air supply and cheap gas to read and agreed to do well. in fact, part of the problem, the reason why i read crisis is going to be a voice if they had the rough guess what it would be. so but it was you, in your opinion, commission and great. they stand tonight, states that basically did everything will be solid,

the project never comes to the door. but i guess my question is, when rhetorical in the united states have to do with european energy security? well, it's all about money. they want them to buy american energy when you know is being fossil fuels are being attacked in the us. so there's only one outcome here, a higher. right? so the europeans, but to get up and cheat russian energy and paper very expensive gulf in american. and we, wow, that's a brilliant move business. go ahead. it is, and going, it makes the europeans very competitive. and the europe already has problems with keeping up with east asia. but now the one thing that they had, which was this very reliable chief source of energy, russia, now they've given that up and, and they've done it on the american russia. the conflict in ukraine has come under american pressure with the americans who pressed the gray membership is delayed.

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a welcome back to cross all things considered. i'm here labelle. this is the home edition. to remind you we're discussing some real. oh we will go back to d. m a here in moscow from centrally, when we look at this, a conflict in ukraine, at least for the western, they won't say it out loud, but you know, it's not about freedom. it's not about the mob, not about territorial. that's all, that's what we keep hearing on the airways, but it's really about energy here and not fossil fuel energy. it's all about

green energy. and ukraine is being used as a segue to push the transition. this is something that, you know, this is a gleeful about it, they're gleeful about because they, they don't have to bring it to their people and vote on it the way it is. because you know, rules based order and all of this type of stuff here. but at the same time, and this is what i need to explain, they're opening up whole mines again and are, well, main natural gas maybe isn't so dirty here. i mean, what are their priorities here? because if they, on the one hand, you know, it's, you know, territorial integrity. on the other hand, it's agree new deal. but they keep interweaving and clashing with each other and they can't make up their mind. what is their priority? uh huh. well, i have, i would say not the privilege but the duty to read the more than german press. i'm just read it though. we don't have to thank you this side. you know, they the right that 62 percent of the germans for the government's advice and now

the work themselves a few times a week and a for alissa. ok. i don't want it. 62 percent of people already believe these crap . and you know, the way the government is dealing with people in terms of like, you have to read, you know, that the temperature in your bottle, you have to watch read. i mean that these people, it was a russian channel there yet. but we know what he told you the difference between all sort of darion and to 3330 him say ok. don't publish every day just on the president. i just want to do this insane. how else of what's your cells? which theater ways you could go to which books you should read, you know how to educate your children. so in this situation, during our walks, as you put it there in state,

they tell their people car wash. what is what for their house? there is a very, very strange theory. now that washing very often makes is bad. right? and it's just the plain and the problem with their in states is that they use ideology against math against mathematics. i mean in gear force, which is like huge or very what madison model, their best interest of god. which time all the handle on the he just gave a mathematical analysis or was one not that germany has 40 medium households. 20000000 of them are heated by a guess. rational gas, eco sport, 55 percent. how are we going to do without ok? so this is a mathematical question. then i know what you go on. what ran it worse for short periods of time? you know, don't use your car, don't use your i don't know. what else?

yeah. go microwave. well, i mean it smacks all the sudden even worse. well, i mean it, it, george. i mean a, is this going back to the 1840s? i mean, i'm, i'm, i'm trying to understand what's going on in the world is a super competitive police. but, and then we look at the europeans, you know, i mean what, what is it, you know, pragmatism isn't ideology. can they marry the 2? it seems that they, they're, they're, they're, they're pushing things that are just diametrically opposed to each other. and the result is cold and lack of productivity and, you know, the world passes them by a, some kind of backwater. and this is all done intentionally good. yes, it's a short reason. there's been the seamless transition from lee cove is area now to the, the energy stair. i mean, it's just you, you don't even notice it. so we was screaming at the anti back says the non

mosque, whereas the people who are protesting against the lock down, you know, they were with them because they refused to express social solidarity. they were entirely selfish, and we were supposed to hate them. so now we're rapidly going to be moving into a new era with all those who don't want to share out the energy. i mean, i'm going to live really in the process. you know, they don't want to share out the gas, and they can design their own deals with russia. and so this is now everyone with who's going to be taking showers of a to long, you know, they're going to be the is, i guess that's a new thing. shower shaming. is that the shower exactly. all people, you know, watch the car, you know, more than once a month. so if you ever now it's only going to be a fall in be insufficiently for expressing solidarity and of course will be

put in this, this isn't the how the, you know, this, as the ma said, this kind of a j and it was no one ever really for the barrel with it is the same. no one really kind of a you know, to the, from the mental questions about the go with no one with the mental question to what end is all this? why are we making the sacrifice? no, you're just going to shop and just get with the program or else you know we're going to punish you. and so anyway, give me a mindful thinking shot too long in the shower. we had 0 with 0 cove and now we have 0 fossil fuel. ok. niema, let me go to you. i mean, usually when these unusual and very strident on demands of people, it's during a momentary crisis. ok moment case. you know, what i mean by that is it, you know, when the crisis will come to an end and you go back to not, this is completely open ended. you started saving 15. you're,

you're told to save 50 percent on energy towards what end. i mean, it will that make the situation better? how a li alleviated they don't have any answers. there's no, there's no exit from this. it just seems it's going to be accumulator. they're going to me and then the 40 percent and 60 percent and the result will be the same . i don't understand what, what they're driving at what their goal is. go ahead, my lease. i'm sorry, i want to go to the area. i mean, if i use rights, something like this, our people are terrified about get, you know, just 19 percent. so since inside their own, the sweet, while people with russia have been through so many difficult, just them much more like sustainable. so i mean this is difficult that, that, that is the amy is so strong. amy can make any sacrifice. that

means that you should be making sacrifices. ok, 15 percent less. today's going to percent less. the moral. don't ask why? well, if you ask us why? because, you know, if you ask us, why did we support when you greenwich started before being in 2014? don't expect us from us to trust. these are the people, you know, we have to see places change. so we're not responsible with these people. did they didn't there and so i'm in the wrong way on there all day to my nice nice groups. you know, i don't ask any questions that ask a question to coach and you know, via and also what is very important is you always require prices. and 2nd, at that it is, you always intimidate, you will all die from point. there will be an alignment. so if you don't listen to

us and if you don't work with all the water line that will go apps, you know, so basically let me remind you of how people are basically broaden germans into, into what you said that we have not enough space all enough let us wrong, if we don't expand into years, we're all going to die. and that was a lie because germans on a much smaller energy, also that will to create a sustainable economy, which is not going to give them a segue is perfectly the last question i have for george here, you're right. we have the german economic miracle because there was cheap soviet then that later, russian gas. so george, you know, on a global scale here, the global south, the saying, you know, the europeans got really rich because they had access to very cheap fossil fuels, primarily oil and gas. so now they're looking, they're stepping up your plate, say,

our turn we would like that energy to do exactly what the europeans had and what they are they willing to give up? but we'll make it in mind. we'll take it. that's exactly what's happening. yes, yes. but the strange thing is that the europeans and the extent the americans are weighted to a ology that is propagated by the world economic forum and, and ever. and it's not entirely clear what the deal is, other than they want to reduce the population of the world. i mean, that's their agenda and green energy, somehow. those in with that agenda, you know, as was the, the fear of pandemic. and of course, you know, hey, people having children or anything like that. so it's a part of the same thing. are they using this, a crisis of ukraine, essentially to car all use of fossil fuels and to move to these renewables?

they know perfectly well there is no way in the world that germany can continue to be an economic powerhouse relying on solar panels and, and wind, but the pushing it. and you have to think that based on how long you're in the united states to be kind of this engine for growth. i mean, they want to continue to be prosperous themselves. they don't really want to extend this prosperity to others. mean, it seems, you know, the europeans want to set an example, but the world that, that's something that we see here and, you know, you know, eventually, you know, they'll be carbon chain. and you know, this country uses do much are, but you know that, that will be, you know, it will be another reason for nato. it to happen. be, are they being there? but what bridge do? ok, but i mean, but it doesn't work logically because then they become less competitive. they become for the come more irrelevant. and so everyone, the learning example be don't do what it drives you to grow at the last

30 seconds. go to you. well, for a magazine smell radio spot, all in europe, extreme is all the groups not only about which are concerned about it, but also about energy crisis. so we're all extreme is now people don't. and 2nd, there was one person who said that basically by this policy, europe is destroy and you would be in humane capitalism. that was a gross. yeah. i'm just go get him. so i'm, i'm not saying it on my own, but as i said, it would be good to go magazine. this is always food. this is always seem to back these. oh, conspiracy theories where right, well, it will have as well any, or at least a winter coming up we'll have cold capitalism. okay. to see how that feels. okay. bill out. okay. i'm watching themselves a, digging further in into their problems. it's extraordinary to witness gentlemen.

that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in budapest and here in moscow. want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are the remember across huck roles ah ah, in each hunter, russian state little never. i've stivers on the north lansky div. mm hm. and i'm not getting our son signed up for a week within the 55 when. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. when else with we will van in the european union the kremlin, ca, yep, machine. the state aren't russia today and split our t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest,

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if they did with it just had, like, i don't, i don't buy a deal. this would not have happened if nato has vida didn't push this agenda, this war. but that because of the other boston on that i should need to. what about a, a, get a new one up, up with with for only one main thing is important for knox. ism internationally speaking to that is that nations that's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the mind, the nations who are the slaves. american is brock, obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as

long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this danger is boy man that wants to take over the world. that was a culture strategy and walked out of it on your own. i not leashed off to exhibit in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we moved east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous, is it the law? the sovereignty of all the countries? the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what disbanded shareholders in united states and elsewhere in large obs companies would lose millions of millions or is business and business is good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion with

it's a no, it's a blackmail when it comes to foreign affairs. that's the message from russia and the republic of the congo. the talk between the countries diplomats, the gala roles, african saw in full swing back it's done a business community is keen, develop trade relations with russia that says the president of the pakistan business for knows the attractiveness of the russian market for the countries export and restrict thing the flow russian energy giant, the gas drum says, is taking another gas turbine offline for maintenance.