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star, liberal democracy. so this is how all information has to be filtered session making a, you know, big harry potter has story out of the news. and this is a bit problematic because people can accept those stereotypes and get stuck with those emotions. don't look at the facts anymore and then in my argument, then one loses. let me, oh it's what's interesting here. i'm calling this program the phony war. and of course, this is a reference to the time when it's been that during the 2nd world war, after the war started in, when nazi germany invaded poland. and then before the invasion of france, it was called the phony war because there wasn't much going on particularly on the french front. but this, there is a real war going on. but the, the propaganda that glen was referencing it's getting a bit sin. because if the russian saw their bad guys, why are we in the west suffering? they're not making a very compelling argument louder here. well,
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i would say we have to look at who is the object of propaganda. and it's clear that old journal propaganda is much less ukrainians were actually a bear the broncho of the war and are being killed and suffering. so if they hear some reports from the ceo, if they look at the pictures or there's an ascii in that the effected by that they know that they're brothers or sisters, i mean, you know, on a wounded or killed a wound and so on. but though, of just as a gullible western public rich, there's a test to support this, a fraud that everything is united, everything's for is cool and be, is this kind of the, i desire to send money to give some kind of extra walk me to the industrial company, it's clear that sooner or later these narrative will he stay here very hard to reality on the ground. because you know, every time they tell the way our weapons help the brain is,
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i want to smash russia. great, i'm going to conquer this, and i says i ran out of there last emmel, you know, and it sooner late than even less than public, not just a few green on the western public will say, well, you tell us this, and now we hear that it ends out of the root is trying to get 70 old people in the army. now he says, everyone from done by city just have to move away. something doesn't clique. and then, you know, a western propaganda and propaganda will end up with a big on their face. and they, i think they trying to postpone it as long as they can. but you know, you can afford out, you know, a glenn, you know, you, that we were kind of nerdy all 3 of us on this program because we appreciate the history and geo politics. and we're from 3 different different different countries . but, you know, as an american, you know, the post mortem of the ending of the war in southeast asia. my goodness at south
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vietnam government was really, really corrupt then a year ago with the exit of afghanistan. my goodness, that was a really corrupt to come from. and now before the conflict started of every 24th this year, ukraine was one of the most consider one of the most corrupt countries in the world . so, i mean, this is going to kind of come full circle as billions and billions of dollars are being forwarding to the country. money, military equipment, ammo. the whole works here. but just talk about corruption is, like i said in my introduction, almost treasonous. go ahead. ahead on this before this war and you had a western you down the seal on making documentary, some in documentary about the horrible corruption in your credit, your documentary, some also what they were referred to us not see battalions, but now after the war began and we now see that they came suddenly russell up again
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and said in a more, also calling a proxy war and was also enough to get your counsel. but then of course, the old american political issue began to restore proxy war and immediate. now. okay, so it's difficult to follow, but again, this is a huge conformity. you have to choose between 2 positions, and this is often very artificial because of course, if you can say you're opposed to the russian type on ukraine because their supporting if you do, if that's your decision, i also have to conform to the whole narrative. but this is a big rivalry between democracy versus taren, newsome and that also makes china complexity. well. but of course, the facts in this market, it's kind of disappears because government is supposed to be this near inspirational. beacon of democracy, you know, sometimes gets the new winston churchill and of course it becomes non official
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because when, if you want to talk about how polk colfax, for example, the more strict corner laws against russia, speakers on ethnic russians binding the opposition party about the resting that's the main opposition, later or placing all neither control under the state. you know, these are objectively undemocratic and actions, but if you mention this fact, it becomes called rational propaganda bit why she's not true or no, because now you're creating doubt about the korean government. so showing support is necessary and that's why it's very dangerous. because because we make all our journalists in the west into soldiers in this information war, and strong our own trust me that we're trying to destroy our own institutions. and it's one of enter this conflict. we should be able to say on the, such as and,
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you know, you want to convert ukraine into frontline against russia. this is not compatible with democracy. and this is why we see that you created marks. it's large extent was snapped out after 2014, or you can also maybe be made into this new frontline. but again, we would, we don't talk about the facts instead we have this going to cause, you know, you have this, this emotional appeal would have been to soleski versus polluting, which has become the embodiment of evil. and then we don't have to discuss security interest. we don't have to discuss because is a good man versus evil now. and you pick your side, you know, blood of it when it's, when glen was describing how the goal post as it were, is changing. if, if there's a guy amazing similarity to cove it, i mean when you can say something when you can say something, but you can say something at one point. you can cancel the months later. it's common parlance. i mean, it's a, it's very interesting that kind of a trajectory both cove it in the way we're allowed to talk about ukraine. i
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think, you know what americans are good. it is a, each in them masses are manipulated masses and maybe learn from this experience. what i, he and all this is like in all this market, use them all over again. and my cars used to work for quite some time on until sound. very honest voices in like the space arose and say, there's a lot of you know, exchanges he described in your, your crazy and reckless dangerous situation, which destroys our democracy, destroys our country. the same thing is happening here. i don't think if americans want to help ukraine, this is not the way to cope green by allowing one person band all the parties that have been all employees. and this is, that is a help a, this is, doesn't help anyone, any contact you through, you know, dialectics through kind of challenges through. so trying to improve and just here
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in this market, mccarthy, methods, it works for a while and americans know it and they use it and they use it on germany. they use it on to london, sweden. they manipulated, but it's, people are commonsensical, people should live their lives. this is not a fair description of the story and because it's false, it does help. anyway. i'm glad i'm here on top of it. then with some it called for an investigation of ukrainian oligarchy, which is a very interesting because that would encompass the narrative before february 24th . there's corruption in ukraine and a lot of money in western money in goodwill. i think that, you know, you can say that for at least in the part of some people, but that, you know, that is the day again, that kind of creeping narrative. yeah. it is. yeah. i remember the corruption maybe because of so much money. we should have some oversight here around paul and he was, he was attacked mercilessly say, well, i'll vote for the money, but can we find out where it's going and where would it?
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and i mean, he was just absolutely destroyed in the media. but now there's more and more talk. yeah, maybe we should have some kind of oversight here. you just have to know how to play the cues. i suppose, glenn, real quick before we go to the break here. would be there's going to be a major offensive most likely in ukraine, but it's going to be a russian one, not a ukrainian one. i don't know if western media is prepared to deal with that. i don't know, i, i don't because well, let me go some point that out correctly before the main people were trying to commence is the western audience assist classifying the money and the weapons? i think about, for this reason, do you need to keep the momentum going to keep the support going out? or the core of this is to say, you know, the claims are winning brushes are losing those who i'm kind of seeing over the 5 months this perpetual claim. after a year gland. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion,
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the stock. and just look up from when i'm normally a muscle is running unit jake. it doesn't being in the green show on a nice to me as possible. my cook gosh said to somebody, tim cut that i put his ashley of a dc. wanted to work with this move please. of course this and it can you bring out not looking for the genome, bronze medal for phones that arrived. some neat guided that we got that was there. i see more a need say whether i hear from, oh, great lisa. a
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welcome back across stock where all things are considered. i get a little this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news, the, the minutes go back to glen glen. you thought we had to go to the break. you were trying to make a point. please finish up. you know, sort of thing about the continued support by the western public requires this promise victories, especially with this kind of self sacrifice. so every week, you know, we have this new story about ukraine, launching a spectacular conference and you know, some kind of come to wherever to meet the reports that nothing comes out of this except for 2 years losses. and also we have to say that process losing their last week, and the rush of solution is running out every week. soldiers in russia lost their
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morales and putting it sit here putting it's almost about to be toppled the rest of the economy floating. i mean, it's place out all over again and again, the member anything comes out of it. so again, it's, it's with the store that you're grants to under dog destroying the russian military process simply only targeting civilians of course. so, and this is where the emotional aspect comes in as well. i mean, the only folks on civilian that's on one side, but on the other side it can be mentioned. and if you know, goes back to the idea that if you, if you have some sympathy for an opposing side, then like around paul, you might be seen as a traitor because now you're spreading propaganda. these are the facts that matter is whether or not you can draw up enough sympathy for the right side. the real tragedy is that there isn't been call or to go see agents in peace. instead of taking a side note, people will empower so that we have that discount,
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but you're not getting that. but what we're doing, all of the things that we're told to believe the russian economy is bailing on, is sick. a round, the military, when things are going to last, the governments are balling in the west, the inflation is ripping energy crisis food banks and the u. k. all the things they're projecting on what's happening in russia is actually happening in real time in the west. and you can cover that because that is the lived experience of people . when you go to bill up, you're taking your cards. no propaganda is going to convince you one way or another . it's just expensive. go ahead. yeah, the same thing applies to the price of gasoline, driving the cars and you know, heating and cooling. so i think it is, you know, i think the rest and propaganda,
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they can lie about decent places like, you know, ukraine 90 percent of the people. jennifer burns, a blue child or so it sounds all kind of music strange by the lesson. but if you go to your own store and see the prices it is, it's collapsing and i think it's, it's an actually, it's a, it's a mistake of a, with an estimation or what there was a weakness in saying, in russia because they know i see it in be she said, well we will kind of wrong about the strength over us and the guy, you know what made it. just think about it. you are all american gun hor, you want your 160 to succeed. you have to know your enemy. if you know your enemy, how can you do it? if you're just life is, don't tell lies that chinese, a giant on a legs of clay, in the rushes or the gl absent today, then what will happen when you know jose what hitler was and why it was his own
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people? well, well, much the russian in today's and then what you know, they just throw to you. they just throw themselves. so i think it will keep on seeing as a result of this lise and inner life to themselves. that's a bit dangerous thing. you know, glen and not only lies, but i think that is a great deal of arrogance in play as well because i'm there with the russians for pushback, from care. that's the story here. well i, i don't know what the military planning was. i don't know what that was all about, but there is this impression that these armchair generals that were into the generals in wars that were lost by the way, by the west in the middle east, primarily. but they're, they're um, trying to convince maybe themselves in the audience that the russians fight the same way as we do destroy all the infrastructure, lose something about the iraqi and destroy the water and destroying the electric, to destroy everything. and then you go in, that's not the case of the, again,
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this kind of arrogant projection of how they fight a war. everybody else does, which is not the case. if you are familiar with the facts on the ground glen. yeah, well i want to mention curious an important because that's a narrative. what you're kind of stuck on stuck kept for so long because then beginning of the or, and of course russia were still, it's the troops outskirts. i'm hoping to get the concessions they wanted. and again, this was done by the weekend, however, dismissed in the work, but of course the problem for the russians where they had this long, unprotected supply lines, which made them very wonderful. so the amanda disposition and this was at the starting point. everything, i see there a different strategy. but again, the narrative snail reflects kimura, which she, you know, ukrainian checks are starting to see things. there are some time. and you know, so you know, the mighty russian military machine has been destroyed by the cranium. also have this story amongst mattress, you know,
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there goes the key will remember the airplane or just shut down all the russians. my guy, yes, the f. make island, you know this. you know, russians for the russian worship also to be it doesn't matter because the narrative still still stays there. still having the science show to the western you know, it also say so is this need to hold onto the narrative and this is also what's problematic. i pointed out it's got forced to take this position. and so for example, i'm personally horrified by what's happening and ukraine is devastating, but you're saying listen, we should push towards political settlement, talk to the russians, at least, even if it doesn't start to dialogue now, to see where the possibility is for making peace. well, that would be anti ukraine and now i'm curious the pro ration because now i'm
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saying, well, if i wanted to make peace now with your credit, if that means well, have to make some confession. send me an asking for an ukraine is to surrender. so you're not allowed to call for peace that history in this role. so and, and so you have, you have to take one of the fish, which is the pro esther on and with all the strange and efficient switch that doesn't necessarily make sense. so it's, it's very confusing and just one final notice it goes beyond the narrative. it's george, all pointed out that also implies manipulating the language. so what thinks met before? it's not even more so what's happening with the sanctions. what are the economic recession now hitting across the west? well, us, so with the, by the administration is simply changed the meaning of recession. there's nothing recession. this is what we saw. a mother was wrong, and the oldest soldier surrendered, who also surrendered. it wasn't evacuation as it turned out when they put down
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their weapons and surrendered and ended up in russian captivity. this was an evacuation that was repeated across the western media. so we just changed the language instead of in order to fit with american. it's is quite extraordinary and it's, it's not good for us either pro russian on thought western are you. this is bad for us in the west as well. in a vitamin with one of the things i find very interesting is that because there is no dialogue, ok, lincoln in la ross did speak but a verb the read outs is talking about this prisoner exchange, which i'm for the interested parties. i'm sure it's very, very important, but in the, in the, in the scheme of things, you know, it is, it doesn't bode well for any time soon. the conflict, the in ukraine to come to an end. and i would, i would posit, because zalinski is not interested in the, and the europeans have been cowed into silence from the, the russians will then they would, they'll say we don't have a partner,
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there's nobody competent to talk to in washington. they're all the phones, they don't really understand what they're doing. i'm the secretary of defense as we want. our plan is to leak and russia, i guess that's sending a signal to the kremlin. what do you know? what kind of been a locker they have? and i would, i would posit then this conflict will come to an end, will come to an end when russians are ready for it to end. and i'd like to point out to everyone, this conflict will come to an end under russia's terms in time table. when russia is come to the conclusion, i'm thinking about the 2 letters that were sent in december on december 17th, when the nato went to the united states about russia, security guarantees ritual determinant unilaterally. and they'll say they're done thoughts. yeah, i agree with you and i think that's, that's the damage on the ground. and there weston denied by in our separation. i was ordered to a speech by, you know, or use in or all those things, but the sooner or later that's how it will and what is said about that to, to,
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to get there. a lot of people will be killed in an tremendous damage to the most basic democratic principles will be done. because basically, the behavior all blink blink. shannon bided. this is childish behavior. united states, nate, are they were talking to sonya to russia. they were talking to, sorry, the last one is invaded project. i guess they were talking to some of us are they, when you were she, they were concerned with these. they were concerned with the freedom of speech. they were now all of a sudden, you know, over this conflict they just suppressed the basic principles of us. and if you try to write something on facebook, which goes against the narrative, bam, you're a type of counseling. one of the most popular a, to me for some of his 70000000 people listen to him or know he's a declared russian is this child is behavior which is another u. s trojan themselves. not only just, you know, fortune, you know, make millions of people in the slavic lands, but you know,
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they go to themselves. but that's what disturbing, you know, glenna and on i, in mentioned in my introduction about with a, the risk of cancellation. in this there has been an asserted attempt to count, so all of russia russian's russian culture, russian history. the works ok, but i would pause in the west is self cancelling itself in many ways because the, the global south in china, they just, they, they're not on board, they will not get on board at the, the west finds itself isolated, something that we're talking about language rush is isolated at the same time. putting in lab robert, traveling a busy schedule. there's no global consensus against russia miss. and i would posit the west is isolating himself the global cell no longer fears the west and doesn't respect the west anymore. luck last word goes to you, but i agree. and i think that this has been one of the major shocks here in the west. this, you know, again, this is a narrative,
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not the whole world is united behind you in behind the west islip thrush, a lot of nato is not that many different countries and all that. according to the west, instead of it doesn't mean that they're supporting russia, just mean stuff. this one is a proxy war between nato and the russia, or at the cost, the cost of ukrainian sunday. they didn't want to pick aside in this. i mean, everyone's a russian probably on this will. stephen argument of the pope for that obviously, nato's provoked this, but again, he also full in the category of the system. so it is, it is a shame because this has been the strength of the wes, this being able to have the scope and this course and challenge established ideas and a thing like, it's no way someone watching us here or you see you next time. remember? oh
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ah mouse mother while you while you easy while for a new one fly yet if south. yeah. thrashing with a new dock garza boys now watch them up all me at that i'll pull up. i picked them up. is emma? yeah. full of video from sure. let me just kim's room. sure. thoughtfully it says the why fi ela? a yes, my lord or jane in that again, do you use fortune pretty up my be
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a lot about this more than just financially. ah ah, when i was wrong when i just don't know, i mean you have to shape out this thing becomes the advocate and engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground blue. we raised a corn and soybeans here. so some issues that are different this year than in years past is that with all the things going on the world today are input costs. have
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almost doubled in it's going to be really hard for everybody to keep go. and so i'm will make a solid wall. our current laid president is william a russia for that to your gas company is, are going to get blamed for the problem. but they are not the problem. so by and really chan, blame food for college and the problem because he himself caused the problem in both prices have already gone up. fertilizer and chemicals have dramatically risen . what we need to do, i need to what united states needs to do is start and girl and in we've got we can drill for oil. and for some reason our government thinks that we should be using our own oil, which is crazy. a,
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[000:00:00;00] with the u. s c, no issues with health because visiting tie one, which is the parent can say to do on tuesday despite kind of seeing them as a breach of its sovereignty. with china was certainly take a resolute response and effective countermeasures to safeguard at sovereignty and territorial integrity. we need the brakes. algerian president says, the countries waiting to join the alternative rapidly growing economic block. that's in contrast to create alliances which appear to be losing global influence

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