was who are people who shape, who can shape people's minds, have such a huge responsibility that we do not use emotion in excessive in a manipulative way. sometimes there are true emotions which have to come out and it can be extremely powerful. i'm not shunning away from emotion, but when you are, you are making emotion to push your political agenda. i think that is a very dangerous thing. so both as a reader, both as a consumer of information and as a producer of the information, i'm extremely aware when it comes to emotion, i rather keep my tears in my eyes when i see something because i don't want myself to be manipulated by my emotions. and according to western philosophy, actually what is freedom? freedom is when you are able to restrain your animal instinct and make the right choices despite your emotions. that is, when you achieve true freedom and i want to have that kind of cleaned up. and i

want to give my audience the choice to have that freedom as well. should we have to take it very short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments station. ah ah ah ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. that development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful,

very political. i'm time to sit down and talk ah welcome back to world report with c g, an anchor lou, she, she and i wanted to ask you about the coverage of russian military action in your brain from the chinese perspective when we go there. this is not the 1st conflict in which russia and the west find themselves on the opposite side. we've been there in libya, in syria, on many other issues. and i wonder how is it perceived from so far away in the do you see that as a struggles within europe, us, charles, within the west, or do you see russia as a separate entity? neither with the west?

no, with the east or perhaps both here and there. i think it's really, it's really a very good question because russia straddle straddles europe and asia. part of you is where the west out of you is in the east. so russia is really in a very unique situation, and i think that kind of explains the kind of complex situation you are in. these are the, the west, or these are the europe. sometimes i, i make mistakes. i say, look, i told my german interviewer, for instance, i said, look, russia is not going away. russia is right out europe, but i say that as a russia is also out of europe. so this relationship love and hate, if you like it, between russia and europe, will very much determine how you get along with each other. but at the end of the day, you are not drifting away from, from each other. russia will all be there. geographically, europe will always be there during graphically you have to find

a way to co exist and people are feeling the pain when you, when you start have to, when we are not able to do that. we open here pro western commentators that in a final analysis, china would always with material or even monetary considerations 1st about everything else. and i think that's one of the reasons why many western analysts were surprised why the russians were not russia. the chinese reaction to russia's actions. it wasn't pro russian by any means. it wasn't also pro western, it was firm, but also very much aware of the context. and i wonder if you personally have noticed a change in beijing position in how they present itself on the international stage during this crisis. perhaps even before that, i wouldn't say i perceive to changing position because china,

i actually wrote an opinion piece on this. since the start of the war, and i wanted to look at china's traditional foreign policy and to find out if there is any legacy that has been inherited. and i think it is very clear that china has the 5 principles of peaceful coexistence. for instance, none interference in each other's internal affairs, respect of sovereignty, and territory and integrity. mutual respect, mutual benefit and peaceful coexistence, peaceful coexistence, basically is what russia and europe wants from each other. and i think in that we got chinese position has always been persistent, has always been the same, has become perhaps a little bit more forthcoming in stating its position a little bit. a little more blond if i may say so, because if i haven't noticed, i haven't noticed a change. let me, let me, let me repeat that. i haven't noticed

a change just recently. the chinese state council and foreign minister said china want peace in ukraine, and i think from the very beginning that message is very clear. so i haven't noticed a considerable shift because john is also a friendly country with the ukraine. also friendly in terms with the west, also wants to be in good terms with the united states. and of course, russia is all things really important for china. we have a very strong relationship back to back. so this p and, and of course, war is no good for anybody. so peace is the message, has always been the message. i think this, this is consistent. i also want to highlight for our audience how china reacted to be un drop resolution on russia. the actions and the chinese side specifically pointed out that the drug doesn't take into consideration the history complexity of the current crisis, the cation of the context, the chinese side,

clearly points to is that a matter of ignorance on the part of the west, or do you think it's a deliberate tactic. well, i think nothing comes out of the blue. there is when there is a result. there's always a cause and i interviewed ordinary chinese people on the tree that well aware of the history, you know, the 5 rounds and nato expansion, for instance, towards russia. the very complex relationship between the people of ukraine and the people of russia. and what has happened in eastern ukraine since 2014. so there is not a clear cut right or wrong, or who did, who started the 1st job or, you know, so to try to do that would be, or try to make things look like that would be counter productive because if you have a military conflict, the most important thing is to find ways to stop it as soon as possible. so

anything that is considered conducive to finding a peaceful and quick solution to the conflict is considered not in the interest of china and china. lee, i understand trying to believe that is not in the interest of world peace either. so that's why china at stain and that position is actually shared. and i think this piece of information does not understood widely by people in the west, adequately that, that position is actually shared by the great majority of countries in the world. you have 141 country voted in favor of that resolution of the new, in general assembly resolution. but you have $35.00 countries attaining and 5 countries, including russia. voting against. if you take out the population of russia, the, the population of those who are against the resolution actually are the majority of people in the world. so i think that is a lot and the west didn't get the word they wanted. they didn't get people to agree

to condemn russia on. ringback because i found this fascinating, you know, that you're saying that there was didn't, didn't get there was that it wanted because in your analysis of that resolution, you make a clear distinction between the words can dump merican media, put them the headlines and the words deplore which was the features in the chair of the resolution and you say that the choice of words was critical. therefore, you know, would be out in that account. i mean the, the choice of course would have been different account would also have been different. how come a chinese journalists like yourself is more attentive, more sensitive to the variations of meaning in english them are a native speaking colleagues, isn't that ironic? i don't know. i asked the question too, sometimes. that's why sometimes i cannot tell whether it was an honest mistake or just information that that's the distinguished distinction between missing nation

and distance. this information, i think as native speakers they must know the difference between contamination and deploy. by the way, it's to deploy in the strongest terms. so there's a slight difference there, but still to deploy and to condemn a different words to condemn is much stronger and it has a moral aspect to it, right? you can dance from something that is almost considered evil. so the, the one us, mainstream media television actually said the un passes resolution to condemn russia. and if you look at the original text, it doesn't actually say it condensed the announcement of russia's military operation in ukraine. but it doesn't condemn russia's military operation in ukraine, per se applause in the strongest terms. so these are the details that often gets lost and that's why sometimes it is very different. it's very easy,

but this information missed information to travel because people are lazy. how many of our viewers will go to the original source to, to, to look through all of the piles of documents that are hidden somewhere and to read, to go through the legal language. some of it is really not very human friendly and to find the differences between condemn and deplore they would just say, oh, this particular this, well we got a television says so, so it must be the case. and my question, my job is to ask exactly what happened and why it happened. is that an honest mistake or was it something more than that? sometimes i can tell. i hope it's not just information. i hope it's just an honest mistake. i want to ask you something about that. would you just mentioned that the international audiences or viewers can sometimes be, well, i don't want to call them lazy, but i think people have been indulged in attainment for way too long and their attention are rather sure they not always want to get into the sort of

so the issue is how do you personally decide how you can afford to be with you analysis without making your audience. but this is also a very interesting issue for me as well because i like thinking and analyzing, but i understand that some people don't take it easily. yeah. no, you know, i am but kind of person that doesn't take no as an answer. and i just bought a motto of the human brain from cow, the chinese shopping platform. i say, i am going to put the model of the human brain is half out of the box i. i want to put it on the ball on the tables of all my colleagues and make them out of the box all the time because that's what we have to do. how we do our job in, in entertaining, easy to follow way that's, that's still extremely professional. and that is honest and fair and easy to follow

. when i write my script i, sometimes i joke about it. i say no to my audience. let's imagine they have primary school literacy level. it's not huge, huge word because they're not, they're going to scratch their heads. and then if they scratch one price, they're going to say ok, she looks nice, but i'm going to switch channels. i don't want them to. i don't want that to happen . so i try to make it interesting and i try to, i tried to make, i tried to illustrate what i say because the human, the human brain works in a way that when they see something, they tend to believe it. that's why more and more, if you go on social media, for instance, you see messages being being put into graphics. instead of mia language typed words because that is more effective when you want to send certain messages. and i noticed the us state department is doing more and more that i noticed more and more social influences trying to do that. sometimes i do that,

but i try not to do because when you have to bad i'm like, well, they want to say something that is there they, they, they want you to, to, to, to see. but yeah, it's a fascinating thing, but i think there is a way to do it without going low, without sacrificing the quality of the discussion and still bringing out the best discussion you can have and so make it fun. that's my aim. well, it's my opinion. i think you did really thank you very much on this opportunity to engage. they've been great pleasure for me. thank you so much. oksana the for the invitation and the best. luckily, a job, keep it out and thank you for watching hope to see again next week with

all eyes on taiwan. china strengthens military activity near the self rules island with the u. s. high speaker apparently said to visit later today, that's part of our asia tour. the american navy has also deployed for warships, east of taiwan, washington seas little issue with nancy pelosi visiting ty pay despite beijing declaring the move a breach of chinese sovereignty. and one of the country is wholly preferred to risk on if the trip with china will certainly take a resolute response and effect.