tv Interview RT August 4, 2022 4:30pm-5:01pm EDT
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started, i don't live in luxury here because no matter how much i teach to university is in moscow, no matter how much compensation i received from ross snap for my activities on the board of directors. because of sanctions, all these amounts are still blocked in moscow. i do not have access to this money which was still possible before the sanctions were imposed and they literally tried to drown me. that's why i applied to, to law firms. after all, it didn't end there. i was called the kremlin backup singer. yesterday the newspapers were full of headlines that i had worked for the k g b for 30 years and was a spy in the austrian government. because there were russians here in france who worked for the k g b. and it so happened that we studied at the same academy in paris in 1992. i had the opportunity to get a scholarship there at the invitation of the french government. and i studied at the national school of administration for a year, worked in the prefecture for 6 months,
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but i have never had any personal contacts with sir gauge or not. my school, my social circle, it was different, immeasurable slander, according to kenesaw in france, without housing, without a lawyer, and not the best conditions for retaliatory actions. but can, i still did not want to ignore the smear campaign in the media. and the absurd accusations against her. she also didn't want to leave and answered the threats the unknown people sent her every day. i have been repeatedly threatened with violence in austria as well as here. threats have been received from austria and germany up to the prefecture. the males, se, but in austria, letters also came to my mailbox, but no one wanted to take it seriously. the content was something like this. so russian pig, you should be hanged putin's prostitute. you need to have your throat slit and buried alive like that. and we will make sure that you are buried that way, and these are just the wildest things i've received. the nice or has to defend
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herself against politicians in both austria and france. she considers them corrupt the way the austrian elite treated, her reminded can i soul of the order of the 1900 thirty's, can i? so the tone became hard. she no longer wonders why adolph hitler relied on the austrians to choose the leadership of the ss constant. attacks made her suspicious even during our filming. she could not get rid of the thought that she was being watched and the conversation listen to all 23 weeks ago on sunday, i contacted the former federal president of austria hines, fisher. i don't have very close contact with him, but i said that in connection with the threats of sanctions against garrard schroeder, from the european parliament, chancellor schoultz immediately took a position and said that there is no question of him being included in the sanctions. less and austria newspapers were full of headlines. all of corinne nestles assets will be confiscated. this is my property before this is the house. i
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earned 120000 euros for and built it for another 12 years and all this long before in their opinion. i began working for someone from the russian side. here's how austria read. there was not a single person in austria who would say, it's not legally possible. i would be the 1st you citizen whose house would be congress. i asked the former president hines fisher, if he was ready to support me in any way so that at least someone would do something he refused. therefore i have no way to somehow defend myself against these accusations by the media. and no one in austria has the opportunity to publicly speak in my defense and say enough is enough. she left the country. she does not oppose. austria, i didn't start an opposition party. the head who controls the harassment of nice ill. so whom has nice will become a target, embittered editor's old enemy. so does everything come from the very top? it's many reasons why i'm the focus of this kind of attention. i would say that all
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this dirt that originally appeared revolved around bullying animals. if i were a man, i would have been accused of sexual harassment, pet ophelia, or something else a long time ago. in my case, it was cruelty to animals, which, for public outrage, stands right after pet ophelia. and this is largely due to the fact that one of my 1st official actions in december 2017 was the advertising budget, which is a very corrupt business in austria. taxpayer money is wasted, millions are thrown around, they're giving them to the editors for good reports. and we're not talking about some kind of invitation to a hotel. we're not talking about travel. we're talking about millions of euro's corruption has also become very wide spread in austria over the past 20 years. and i put an end to this corruption story. and from the 1st day it made me so to speak, a red rag for many editors. i reported this to the parliamentary commission
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investigating the case in may 2021. when i was so to speak, a little robin hood for a short time alone against the mafia. when they threatened to burn down my house, it reminds me of the 1930 chicago, where a small grocer says, i'm not going to pay a $100.00 for a roof this week. and that was one of the reasons, but not the only one. i can't say right now if there are any other customers there and i would interpret it this way. and it's quite curious. i've been thinking about it a lot during sleepless nights. at the age of $54.00 now and $57.00 and a half. that is, it all started when i was 5455 years old and i realized that it was no coincidence that under 8 hitler, the most of the leadership of the ss and the gestapo were from austria. they were not from sicily, ireland, or die. gaston, i've been thinking about it a lot. they were austrians, residents of central europe, full of
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a mixture of explosive falsehood and cowardice mentioned. and none of the many residents of the middle east europe seems like a distant paradise. they go to terrible hardships rung to where they expect to find safety and freedom, but nicely has lost faith in europe. she thinks the middle east is safer than i of now i'm going to lebanon because among other things, and who would have thought there is more freedom and lebanon? i heard you say you feel more free here, to what extent? yes, i've been teaching for a long time, and i would like to teach again, although i taught in austria and taught for several years at the american university in austria. take, for example, the problem of climate change, the problem of war and ukraine, or the problem of the pandemic. these are all topics where there is only one black and white and from the point of view of science, this is a failure. and if we compare it with the debates that i can conduct at universities
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in lebanon, egypt, israel, than i have much more freedom of speech than in austria, not to mention germany, i often had german students who told me, wow, you can still discuss things very openly and critically on various issues, regardless of whether it's about israel, the war in syria or anything else is the feeling craig, with us of emma. let's play out the scenario. what if karen, ny saw had stayed in france? what would have been the consequences? what would her opponents have been capable of? would her safety really have been at risk? man is my safety. obviously, there are a lot of people who are interested that i well, let's say disappear or from the sky. the public is an inconsistent judge. a good lawyer is needed here. if you're not careful, you can quickly become a victim of a violent crowd. no one day in the middle east offense was erected around the scaffold. tomatoes used to fly from the crowd to day malicious tweets and e mails.
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there is no mercy for the full moon foreign, mister eva. how did nicely cope with the pressure you go to canada? can talk filters. in the morning i have to deal with physical shit in the stable in the afternoon. i have to deal with immaterial shit. and this physical shape you can smell exercise and the material shit suddenly flies right in your face. that's why the shit from the stable comes me down a bit. it's on the way a nozzles, lawyers, former colleagues, political associates, journalists, and customers. hold of them have already turned away from her. even relatives and friends have joined the campaign against karen nicer. come. as for friends, a friend is always the one you can call it 3 a at and say that you have a flat tire. and i had several such friends that the 1st 2 unfortunately died a were my age. and in general, i don't have many friends. last and last year i got into stupid trouble. i broke my ankle in several places. i was completely immobilized for 3 months. i couldn't do
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anything. i couldn't even take care of animals. thank god, i could afford to hire a person to take care of them. but for the remaining 23 hours, i took care of myself and i was still thinking about the time that i had friends. and i was wondering if i should ask them if they could come. or i also thought that i might still be remembered from the time when i was a minister for several months. and i was hoping that they might come, or boston western observe is a show that nicely dance was a dance with the devil himself. if you look objectively, karen nicely invited one, the most influential people in the world, a wedding date, full of events and consequences. immediate coverage has become a continuous conflagration without regard to morality and ethics. will she invite the russian president to dance again? that is, you know, i imagine the position because it didn't sometimes know for them. yes, of course, i will not like german president stein mer, repent all of my mistakes, questioning everything,
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but he has done over the years of his career. i am responsible for my every action . and what is the crime that i sent an invitation to president putin? i didn't expect him to actually come. it was a surprise that he accepted the invitation and in general, it was all spontaneous. as i've already said, i danced with him. let's say, share the joy that my fiance and i had we were both over 50. the 1st wedding for both of us in general, there was the invitation, but it just so happened. it was a pure coincidence. but it so happened and me and my husband and i danced after the wedding for about 45 minutes. and during the break, i went up to the president, he was there and invited him to dance. it was spontaneous, it was just such an atmosphere there. and now scientific research is already writing about the crime against democracy that i committed and that i danced with him. and there was just such a figure in the dances. the president bowed. this is covered on the video. i kissed
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my hand and i curtsied. and i learned this at dance school and how it is done at a festive ball. and now it's all being quoted. it's been defamed and dumped in the mud. and these are all the gestures that make up life. and in my book, diplomacy makes history. i try to point out these completely different aspects that should also accompany interpersonal and interstate relation. we can't always think only about missile bases gdp sanctions and so on. diplomacy is more than political issues. i have the dilemma we are facing in the current situation. and i know this from european commission is that only political scientists are sitting there. there are no historians, there are no geographers. there are no people really engaged in diplomacy. and every thing related to let, there are no forbidden topics for nicely. however, there are fewer into locus that are ready to listen to her is time to start all over again. and so karen nice will move to lebanon. this journey with all the
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animals was by no means easy. it was not so easy to organize such a mood. after all, it was not limited to personal belongings, books and furniture. i took my 2 box, her dogs, and to shetland ponies with me. the rest of the animals chickens, ducks, and an aquarium with fish. had to be left and even so it was very difficult to organize everything. i contacted several agencies until i found a suitable one. on the 2nd of june, i managed to move all of the furniture. the rest of the things were already packed and i stayed with all the animals in an absolutely empty house. i slept on a mattress for about 2 weeks. i also had big problems with food because in the area where i lived, it was difficult to get anything without a car. and i had already given the car to my friend in austria. by that time, in short, it was a difficult time. everything was postponed endlessly the last few weeks before the immediate move were especially difficult. however, in the end,
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everything worked out and i came here with my dogs, and i must say almost from the 1st day here, i started doing all the necessary things for a normal life attaining a residence permit, opening a bank account, tin and so on. here i was a waiting for a daily struggle with the local bureaucracy, which reminds me a little of the old ottoman officials of the 19th century on the internet and in the media. hatred does not weaken even off the car and nice to was actually squeezed out of the country. however, she copes by switching her attention to what's around. so she lives with a syrian family in their house, in the lebanese mountain hit the ponies of the foam austrian foreign minister, are incredibly popular with local. i said that i urgently needed a house where i could be with animals, and this is not so easy to find and been on. and even in a short time, however, the owner kindly agreed to provide it and allowed him to stay with 2 ponies. they were very friendly towards my horse who died 2 years ago,
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and i just could not leave them alone. at 1st i found a place for them in austria, but then i found out that it was not very good there either. and then i brought them to france and then somehow managed to get them here. but here they are incredibly popular. when we go for a walk, all people want to do is take pictures, children run up and wave to us drews and habits this area. this is a separate ethnic group. there are neither christians nor muslims their faith based on the late hellenistic beliefs. all drew's mainly live in the lebanese mountains in syria as well as in the north of israel and the former palestine on the golden heights. it's all very close a few kilometers away. the drivers still believe in reincarnation. they have a completely different attitude to animals and to nature, different from monotheistic religions, where the belief prevails. that man is set to rule over nature, especially in christianity where this thought has rained for centuries,
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even if there is almost no fuel here. electricity provided for a couple of hours a day. if there is any at all. however, in purely interpersonal terms, i have a feeling that the current crisis, these suffering unite representatives of different faith. there are no more violent clashes between sunnis and shiites. here, as it was in the 90s, there is no longer that christian arrogance, especially on the part of the maronite. there are enough people who have said, what are you doing with the drews? you have to live with the christians. i found a house by accident and i do not share people. i'm very glad, ungrateful that i could live here in this house. however, i must say, in some mind, all these boundaries are still very strong stuck together with the owners of the house. karen nicely lives in very simple conditions. they cook here on an open fire . there is very little energy here. electricity is available only for a few hours
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a day, so you have to eat only what can be stored without a refrigerator. mutual support is the basis of living together and this is where it manifests itself best. for example, karen nicely gives home lessons to the son, but a syrian family who lives with them. abdulla is 10 years old, but he did not really go to school because his father sent him to an auto repair shop. the boy goes there every day at 7 30 in the morning and returns home at 5 or 6 in the evening. i asked his father not to send him to the workshop any more bother to bring him to me for school lessons. now he and i are studying mathematics studying english. abdulla will return to the auto repair shop when he is 16 years old, until then he can fully enjoy his childhood. can hardly any one suspected that just a few years ago, his current teacher was the chief diplomat of an entire country, brake it shaking hands with the most influential people in the world. only a few photos on the walls speak about it. and the fact that she took photos with
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russian politicians with her, his fall from an accident to come to live on on. i have several photos from my time as the head of the foreign ministry, from meetings with the pope and european politicians. but i deliberately took these photos with me back to france, frankly, as negotiations with foreign minister sergey lavarez negotiations with vladimir putin. i met with him 34 times during negotiations. all these are interesting memories for me, because i got the impression that when talking to european politicians, you actually communicate with some teenagers, always somewhat agitated, filled with youthful superiority. if you want to deal with serious people, then you need to go to moscow. beijing, islam abad. or new delhi karen nicely sympathies for russia not limited to the political sphere. it's all learning russian through an online courses become a wonderful way for nicely to escape from everyday problems in particularly
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difficult times, whether here or in france, learning other languages, their grammar structures and so on has always been a life saver for me. it is as if you are dealing with another world, another reality. and all the attacks and hatred become invisible. that is why i often say that russian grammar really gave me the meaning of life, nevertheless, strong friendships, even more important. it was because of them that karen nie so i chose lebanon for her immigration with the help of long term companion. she was able to find housing where she was able to settle with animals and overcome numerous every day difficulties. when making natalie at a restaurant in by bla, car nicer has been friends with her since childhood, haven't. and i says from the tempest tongue before our mothers worked for austrian airlines, when it was a significant airline. and bay route was one of the important airports and her mother. and i hate and my mother knew each other
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a little from work. my mom always told me about her parents and aid in our sen and bay route. for me, these are childhood memories. we played with each other when we lived in lebanon, and a real friendship formed between us. when we were 1819 years old, there was heavy fighting in lebanon, and they were constantly between beirut in austria. and since 1989 natalie is returned to lebanon since then, i visited her every year that was 24 years ago. and, and total, we've known each other for 53 years since the age of 4 with us whitman puzzle and becoming 3 friends with such a person as karen nestle and to support her. even when the mood becomes negative is not easy for many, perhaps because of this nurse lost some friends. but for natalie, all this never massett either from the front door john, because i have known her since childhood. and every thing that is said or told about her is all bad propaganda. i am against these people who write only to write
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. i know her personally for me, karen is karen. she has never been different. thanks. and this is what happens when you don't need to explain yourself when you don't need to put on a show to the diesels of, for the sake of unconditional friendship and a place of solitude. karen nozzle is ready to do without many things and lead a simple life in a country where for most people, everyday life is determined by pure struggle for existence. however, the country is known best at times. karen nice will shows us a clear example of this in the sense of beirut, that event week long thoughtless. here in beirut, i saw complete destruction. more than 30 years ago when there was a war only during the war, people said, always a pray log where after the war they made plans for the post war period. then the country began to recover in terms of real estate. a lot in institutional and social terms very little. so the war has not ended at the human level. unfortunately.
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however, real state recovered very quickly. now we're standing here in the most beautiful area of beirut. these were ordinary, luxurious shopping malls, embassies, bank branches, insurance companies. there's also a d h l great. every one needs it really. i moved with them. however, in economic terms, nothing is happening. namely the service sector has define the life of the city. since the forties and fifties, beirut has always been a city of services, banks, insurance companies. it worked here. people spoke 3 languages. this is a service society, and people here are friendly, responsive, and able to help representatives of other cultures. imagine you had an apartment here, then you've survived the war, and now it's over. there's really
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a complete decline here. only sick cats and completely destroyed buildings remain. they can only crisis of 2019 lead to the fact that the exchange rate of the lebanese pound on the black market deviated from the official right. peg to the u. s. dollars with money suddenly depreciated prices skyrocketed. the explosion of the port in 2020, and the colossal destruction that followed foe that weakened the country's economy, the books with lumber. i tug of the explosion in the summer of 2020, aggravated the situation after the banking sector had already collapsed before in the fall. of 2019, then the pandemic came, and during the pandemic, we were all willy nilly locked up somewhere. and as soon as the restrictions were lifted here, people left 410020000 people a month to buy. therefore, the lebanese always have relative somewhere, whether in brazil, france or austria,
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many of them left because they said this country has no future. and there's no future for our children. so 501-002-0000 people a month continue to leave. when i come to a lawyer because i need documents to get a 10 and so on. the 1st question is, are you crazy? what are you doing here anyway? because who is coming to lebanon to day? i really found myself in a strange, surreal situation. what i say for me, i lebanon, is against all odds, an opportunity to have the right to live. i do not need more. it's austin, them. the been on the current knife and karen, i still consider the living conditions in lebanon, a gloomy omen for europe. the scenario of the future, which many would have loft as a year ago now no longer seemed so unreal. i believed that what you see here will happen in europe. the main similarity is
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corruption when the system ceases to inspire confidence among taxpayers, because the population taxpayers simply ceased to believe in the state and institutions. and this is exactly what is happening now in many societies when people can no longer afford daily life, as inflation is rising because salaries are no longer enough. rents for many years are too high for the average family. this is a combination of many things, and if you add to this, the fact that the cost of energy becomes unaffordable than much collapses. as an expert on the middle east, nice will understand the differences between western and arab societies. in her opinion, countries such as lebanon, coke, best with crises then for example, germany of i admired the lebanese, the strength of many of my friends who are there, bringing their children to school, paying the bills. i know how many of them cope and with what confidence they enter life. but i think this is an eastern society while there are no lebanese here. also
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israelis, palestinians, iraqis. they are just much better prepared to go through such hard times because they are able to suffer because they have family cohesion. and they are not just going through such hard times. now. they have been going through hard times for 40 years. now they say that many things are much more difficult than during the war, and they also have cohesion on their. they still have a certain lightness of being which is felt despite the difficulties. and this is what defines the society, and this is what our societies lack. i can live when electricity is provided for 2 hours a day. i have batteries to work, the internet. i charge my laptops, but somehow it works. however, lebanon, a society where the main thing is, the service sector is radically different from economic centers, such as germany or austria, outlander whole. but hopefully before it gets better,
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it has to get a lot worse in germany and europe. however, whether there is a way out of the crisis is unknown. if it succeeds, perhaps there will be a place again for the form of foreign minister expelled from the home country for advocating pragmatic relations with russia and remaining steadfast, even in difficult times. current nice will, does not allow moralists to defeat, even though they eventually resorted to. the most immoral means she does not allow herself to be remade. she hit the road. ah ah, with a suffered because we're getting them business and you will clean them for i b e r w that was chosen. yeah, americans great you. when you wrote it, you know,
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you got to really just touch not good. and also for when you was just touching shore, it was nice talking to different student until the child wishing that you use her own the with them in the proud and you're still with her as you job. yours are both in the studies or something that was the point of jewish thought. it was a community off on all thought it was through which no longer it would just institutional up to push to, to stream to put him home because or leaders new or your course load. you school. of course, i don't know who got no for the don't know if i should just to do with you used to play in finances come up with with
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you to look up for literally a muscle. i mean, you know, she, kitty doesn't being an exemption on a nurse to me as close to my gosh, 6 to 70 to look at that. i put his ashy of nbc. wanted to work with one move please. but of course, with you, but he has not put the chain on brian's in network pro phone. is that right? sounds good. yeah, i've had one week with great news. i have that a ms. munoz carter to magna if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about a quarter. don't put your human symbols on display. yeah.
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