son, 2nd degree assault stemming from an incident with a local gas station club before his running with police. the local sheriff on government officials have condemned the incident. but so far, washington hasn't commented on the case despite the graphic nature of the beating. this is done despite other cases of police brutality against black men, like george floyd, for example, which immediately prompted outcry from top u. s. and u. n. officials. you and human rights chief condemns george floor. it's killing an urges serious action to stop you as police killing some unarmed african americans. this is the latest in a long line. so there all kinds of expressions of concern, but not just expressions of concern plans to take action so that this stops will they appear to be a growing epidemic of police brutality assault and violence

directed at african american men systemic cycle just as a. so just in this country, cuts at the very heart, more sacred beliefs that all americans are equal rights and dignity. who sends a very clear message to the black community, black lives that are under threat every single day. i list edwards, all the sites that officials are more concerned with skin color rather than enforcing justice. i think its attack and arkansas will not only ignite, they're ready a ruptured frustrations of the public, but i think it hits to the core of the issue. americans help with their government right now. we don't trust the government. we don't expect to going through much in our favor. no major pulses of comments. and it might be because the man who was beaten so ferociously by those police officers. well, he was white. he wasn't black light, george for somebody going to consider the george ford's killing occurred under

republican administration. the beaching of this man was under a democrat administration. ultimately, if you actually look at how this part is out, it reflects on the biden administration, the democrats, the people that would be most likely to erupt in, in defense of the victim. they were very quick to come out and attack of the police when it came to george floyd and they could care less about the details of the incident. they cared more about the skin color of this man. now when this man went to meet his maker, the lord didn't care about the skin color he had. but the truth of the matter was the democratic party hillary clinton and the rest of their their apparatus. jo bind's handlers definitely cared about it and it did use this to a rode the base of the republicans. they painted the republicans as racist or that's a program for now. here on the international though, all of your tuesday was headlines to return at the top of the hour. ah

ah, ah. hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter labelle. the one aspect about the ongoing conflict in ukraine that stands out most is media coverage . never in the history of corporate media has coverage been so biased, one sided, it does not stop, they are questioning the standard narrative is akin to treason and subject to censorship. and cancellation ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess vladimir goldstein, imperial, he is the chair of the department of slavic studies at brown university. and in our

school we have one decent. he is a professor at the university of southeastern norway as well as the author of the russo phobia propaganda in international politics. originally crossed across to the fact that means you can jump any time you want, and i would appreciate it. i would start out with plan here in our slow, you know, one of the things in looking at media coverage. and that's what i do for a living like cover on western media primarily. and you know, when it comes to the conflict in ukraine going on 5 months, you really don't really learn much about the conflict. instead they to, when they're trying to convince you how to feel about the conflict, there is a lacking, the context is lacking. i'm even geographical knowledge is pretty scant. and, and there's reliance upon vogue magazine. i'm a photo shouts of the ukrainian president and his wife. i mean, in that state of my stressing how to feel, it is easier to get away with outcomes to contextualizing in an n, as

a way to try to allay all the suffering that western publics are feeling. glen. well, what you're describing is a description of propaganda because search have defined a just propaganda to large extent, completing an audience by not relying on rational arguments. so if you play on stereotypes and ceilings and obviously there's this build up to this baganda war. we're currently just russia games, which obviously was a great example of how ceilings kind of blurred out all of the facts of the matter . now obviously, countries, news propaganda to some extent during war, especially about this is around this is because it's necessary to mobilize public concerns for a conflict. so this is why we say this during this time. so what we're going to do is build up if there are times of course what goes wrong,

good versus evil. and if you accept this stereotype and all information comes through this, through the fact that you said that it doesn't really matter anymore, because you're guiding something even well, it was necessary. and, and this is how you see it. again, it's a long history of there's a rush, it's always been seen as if you will, the other, you know, they have been buried, store civilization. they've been the asians european the know here in our liberal democracy. so this is how all information has to be filtered to making a big harry potter has story out of the news send. this is problematic because people can accept those stereotypes and get stuck with those emotions. don't look at the facts anymore. and then in my argument, then one loses let me, which was interesting here i'm calling this program the phony war. and of course, this is a reference to the time when it's the, during the 2nd world war,

after the war started in when nazi germany invaded poland. and before the invasion of france, it was called the phony war because there wasn't much going on particularly on the french front. but this, there is a real war going on. but the, the propaganda that glen was referencing it's getting a bit sin. because if the russians all their bad guys, why are we in the west suffering? they're not making a very compelling argument louder here. well, i would say we have to look at who is the old general propaganda, and it's clear that older propaganda is much less ukrainians. well, actually bear the bronsels of war and are being killed and suffering. so if they hear some reports from dc or if they look at the pictures and ski, if they're not effected by that, they know that they're brothers or sisters. i mean, you know, cause a wounded or killed a wound and so on. but the gullible western public, there's

a test to support this, a fronds and everything is united. everything's for school and be, is this kind of the desire to send money to give some kind of extra walk through the industrial comp. it's clear that sooner or later these narrative will keep their here very hard to reality on the ground. because you know, every time they tell the west all levels help, the brain isn't going to smash russia. you're great. i'm going to conquer this. and i says, i running out of their last m all you know, and it sooner late or even less than public, not just a few green on the public will say, well, you tell us this, and now we hear that it ends out of the root is trying to get 70 old people in the army. now he says everyone from done by city just have to move away. something doesn't leave. and then you know, why some programs and propagandists will end up with a big on their face and they,

i think they trying to push on it as long as they can. but you know, you can us reality. you know, glenn, you know you, that we were kind of nerdy all 3 of us on this program because we appreciate history and geo politics. and we're from 3 different different different countries . but, you know, as an american, you know, the post mortem of the ending of the war in southeast asia. my goodness that south vietnam government was really, really corrupt then a year ago with a exit of afghanistan. my goodness, that was a really corrupt to come from. and now before the conflict started of every 24th this year, ukraine was one of the most considered one of the most corrupt countries in the world. so, i mean, this is going to kind of come full circle as billions and billions of dollars are being forwarding to the country. money, military equipment, ammo. the whole works here. but just talk about corruption is,

like i said in my introduction, almost treasonous. go ahead. ahead on this before this war and you had a western you down the seal on making documentary, some documentary about the horrible corruption in your credit, your documentary, some also what they were referred to as nazi battalions. but now after the war began, and we now see that this all became suddenly russian propaganda and tell to st. in the more also calling a proxy war was also enough to get your council. then of course, the old american political issue also began to refer to as a proxy or in the media. somehow it's, it's ok, so it's difficult to follow. but again, this is the huge conformity. i mean, you have to choose between 2 positions, and this is often very artificial because of course, you can say you're opposed to the russian attack on the crane because they're,

you know, supported by. if you do it, does your position also have to conform to the whole narrative and big rivalry between democracy versus tyranny's? and then that also makes china complexity well. but of course, the facts in this market, it's kind of disappearing because you know, government is supposed to be this near inspirational. beacon of democracy, you know, sometimes gets the new winston sure. shops and medical courses becomes non official because you can, when you want to talk about ca, polk, colfax, for example, the district court laws against russia, speakers on ethnic russians. how about binding the position party about the risk thing? and that's the main opposition, later replacing all neither control under the state. you know, these are objectively undemocratic and actions above if you mention this fact, it becomes called russia propaganda not true or no,

because now you're creating doubt about creating government. so showing support is necessary and that's why it's very dangerous. this began because we make all our journalists in the west into soldiers in this information or destroying our own trust. and i mean, we're trying to destroying our own institutions and we want to enter this conflict, we should be able to say on things such as and you know, if you want to convert ukraine into frontline against russia, this is not compatible with democracy. and this is why we see that you created the markets. logic spent 2000 after 2014 when you moved to made into this new phone plan. but again, we will, we don't talk about the facts and then we have this articles, you know, you have this. yeah, yeah, always this emotional appeal would have been landscape versus put in which has become the embodiment of evil. and then we don't have to discuss security interests

. we don't have to because there's a good versus evil now. and if you're sign it, you know, glad of it when it's when glenn was describing how the goal post as it were with this change in this is there's a guy, amazing similarity to cove it leave when you can say something when you can't say something. but you can say something at one point you get cancelled the months later, it's common parlance. i mean it's, it's very interesting that kind of a, a trajectory both cove it and that way we were allowed to talk about ukraine. i think, you know, what americans are good, it is a, each of the masses are manipulation masses and maybe learn from this experience. what i, he and all this is like a mock use them all over again. and i was using work for quite some time on until sound very. she is honest voice is in united states, arose and say there's a lot of you know, exchange you described and you are, you're creating a rec,

less dangerous situation, which destroys our democracy, destroys our country. the same thing is happening here. i don't think if americans want to help you crane this is not the way to help you great by allowing one person than all the parties that have been all employees and it just doesn't help a great this is doesn't help anyone a contact you through you know dialectics throw kind of challenges through some trying to improve. and just here in this, my, my classroom methods, it works for a while and americans know it and they use it and they use it on germany. they use it on t lines and sweden. they manipulate it, but it's a common sensical people should. generally the realize that this is not a fair description of the story and because it's false, it does help anyway. well, i'm glad you're on top of them with something called for an investigation of ukrainian oligarchy,

which is very interesting because that would encompass the narrative before february 24th. there's corruption in ukraine and a lot of money in western money in goodwill. i think that, you know, you can say that for at least in the, in the part of some people, but that, you know, that is the day again, that kind of creeping narrative. yeah. it is. yeah. remember the corruption, maybe because of so much money. we should have some oversight here around paul and he was, he was attacked mercilessly say, well vote for the money, but can we buy now where it's going and where would it? and i mean, he was just absolutely destroyed in the media. but now there's more and more talk. yeah, maybe we should have some kind of oversight here. you just have to know how to play the cues. i suppose glen real quick before we go to the break here. would be there's going to be a major offensive most likely in ukraine, but it's going to be a russian one, not a ukrainian one. i don't know if western media is prepared to deal with that. no,

i don't because well let me go to point that out correctly before the main people were trying to convince the western audience pacifying of money on the weapons. i think that for this reason, you need to keep the momentum going to keep the support going out. the core of this is to say, you know, the ukrainian or russian or losing who i'm kind of over to find my perpetual claim a guy. and we have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion some real new state with our g. ah, ah ah, ah

ah a ah, welcome back across stock where all things are considered. i get a little, this is the home addition to remind you, we're discussing some real news, the minutes, go back to glen glen. you thought we had to go to the break. you were trying to make a point. please finish up saying that the continued support by the western public requires this promise victories, especially with this kind of cell sacrifice. so every week, you know, we have this new story about ukraine, launching a spectacular conference and you know, some kind of come to wherever to meet the reports that nothing comes out of this

except for losses. and also we have to say that process losing their last week, and the rush of solution is running out every week. soldiers in russia lost their morales and putting it sit here putting it's almost about to be a tough old russian economy. clothing. i mean it's, it plays out all over again and again and, but member, anything comes out of it. so what again, it says with the story that you know, your grand to under dog destroying the russian military brush simply only targeting civilians of course. so, and this is where the emotional aspect comes in as well because i mean only focus on civilian that's on one side. but on the other side it can't be mentioned. and if you know, goes back to the idea that if you, if you have some sympathy for an opposing side, then life around paul, you might be seen as a traitor, because now you're spreading propaganda. we saw the fact that matter is whether

lost control of sympathy for the right side. the real tragedy is that there isn't been call vertigo, creations in peace. instead of taking a side note people, goodwill and powers that we have in this company, but you're not getting what we're doing. you know, all of the things that we're told to believe the russian economy is bailing on is sick. a round, the military when things are going to last, governments are balling in the west, the inflation is ripping energy crisis food banks and the u. k. all the things they're projecting on what's happening in russia is actually happening in real time in the west. and you can cover that because that is the lived experience of people . when you go to fill up, you're not taking your cards. no propaganda is going to convince you one way or

another. it's just expensive. go ahead. yeah, the same thing applies to the price of gasoline drive in the cars and you know, heating and cooling. so i think it is, you know, i think the rest and propaganda, they can lie about decent places like, you know, ukraine, 90 percent of the people. jennifer around a little that. so it sounds all kind of music, all strange bad lesson. but if you go to your own store and see the prices it is it's it's collapsing. and i think it's, it's an, actually, it's a, it's a mistake of a weston estimation or was there was a weakness in saying, in russia because they know i see it in be she said, well, we will kind of wrong about the strength over us. and the guy you know, but they just think about it. you are wrong. american gun hor, you want your 160 to succeed. you have to know your enemy. if you don't know your

enemy, how can you do anything if you're just life is don't tell lies. that chinese, a giant on a legs of clay in rushes or the collapse in today. then what will happen when you know, joe's what hitler was and why it was his own people? well, well, much the russians in today's and then what, you know, they destroy the you, they just throw themselves. so i think it, we keep on seeing as it is also this lies and analyzed themselves as a very dangerous thing. you know, glen and not only lies that i think them a great deal of arrogance in play as well because i'm there with the russians for pushback, from care. that's the story here. well i, i don't know what the military planning was. i don't know what that was all about, but there is this impression and you get these armchair generals that were into the generals in wars that were lost by the way, by the west in the middle east, primarily. but they're, they're um,

trying to convince maybe themselves in the audience that the russians fight the same way as we do destroy all the infrastructure, live something about the iraq and destroy the water and destroying the intro to destroy everything. and then you go in, that's not the case of the, again, this kind of arrogant projection of how they fight a war. everybody else does, which is not the case. if you are familiar with the facts on the ground, glen. yeah, well why don't you mention how important because that's what you're kind of stuck on stuck kept for so long because it's in the beginning of the or, and of course russia, we're still in the troops outskirts. i'm hoping to get the concessions they wanted . and i got hundreds for done by the weekend, however, dismissed in the work. but of course, the problem for the russians, where they have this long, unprotected supply lines, which made him very much more. so this position and this was at the starting point, every seems a different strategy. but again,

the narrative snail reflects kimura. when she, you know, ukrainian talks are starting to see things or some time. and you know, so, you know, the mighty russian military machine has been destroyed by the cranium. those who have the stories about mattress, you know, there goes the key will remember the airplane or just shut down all the russians. yeah. make island, you know this though, you know, russians, you know, for the russian or worship also to be, it doesn't matter because the narrative still still space. they still have the science show. and so the western, you know, in awesome say, so is this need to hold onto the narrative and this is also problematic. i've pointed out to you before, so take this position and you know, so for example, i'm personally horrified by what's happening in your credit is devastating, but you're saying listen, we should have pushed towards political settlement. talk to the russians, at least,

even if it doesn't start to dialogue now to see where the possibility is for making these well, that would be anti ukraine. and now i'm curious the pro ration because now i'm saying, well, if i wanted to make peace now with the credit, if that means well, i have to make some confessions. and that man asking for an ukraine is to surrender . so you're not allowed to call for peace, that history is in this role. so and, and so you have, you have to take one decision which is the pro esther on and with all the strange and efficient switch that doesn't necessarily make sense. so it's, it's very confusing and just one final notice it goes beyond the narrative. it's us, your general point that out. that also implies manipulating the language. so what, what thinks meant before it's not even more so what's happening with the sanctions was, are that economic recession are hitting across the rest?

well, so, so with the, by the administration is simply change the meaning of recession. there's nothing recession. this is what we saw, a mother was wrong and the oldest soldier surrender, who also surrendered. it wasn't evacuation as it turned out when they put down their weapons and surrendered and then the russian captivity, this was an evacuation was repeated across the western media. so we just, you know, change the language instead of, you know, to fit with american. it's is quite extraordinary and it's not good for us either is not pro russian on far west. and are you bad for us in the west as well? you know, vitamin with one of the things i find very interesting is that because there is no dialogue, ok, lincoln in love roth did speak, but a verb that the read outs is talking about this prisoner exchange, which i'm for the interested parties. i'm sure it's very, very important, but in the, in the, in the scheme of things, you know, it is, it doesn't bode well for any time soon. the conflict in ukraine to come to an end.

and i would, i would posit, because zalinski is not interested in the, the europeans have been cowed into silence. um, the russians will then they'll say, we don't have a partner, there's nobody competent to talk to in washington. they're all the phones. they don't really understand what they're doing. the secretary of defense is we want our plan is to weaken russia. i guess that's sending a signal to the kremlin of what the, you know, what kind of interlocutor they have, and i would, i would, closet then this conflict will come to an end will come to an end. when russians are ready for it to end. and i'd like to point out to everyone, this conflict will come to an end under russia's terms and time table when russia is come to the conclusion. i'm thinking about the 2 letters that were sent in december on december 17th, one, the nato wanted the united states about russia. security guarantees. russia will determinant unilaterally, and they'll say they're done thoughts. yeah,

i agree with you and i think that's, that's the damage on the ground. and the weston denied by in our separation. i was order just speech by, you know or use in or all this thing, but no sooner or later. that's how it will end. what is said about that to, to, to get there. a lot of people will be killed in an tremendous damage to the most basic democratic principles will be done. because basically, the behavior all blink blink, gen and bided. this is childish behavior, united states, nato. they were talking to sonya to russia. they were talking to, sorry, the lesser in waited a project, i guess they would go into sort of, as i said, they would negotiate. and they were concerned with the piece they were concerned with the freedom of speech. they were going to now, all of a sudden, you know, over this conflict they just suppressed the basic principles of yes and then, you know, tried to write something on facebook which goes against the narrative, bam, dot, you know, type of couse. and one of the most popular

a percentage is 70000000 people listen to him or know he's a declared roster. they this child is behavior, which is another u. s. children themselves, not only just, you know, fortune, you know, make millions of people in the slavic lands. but you know that they go to themselves, but that's what disturbing, you know, glenna and on i mentioned in my introduction about with a, the risk of cancellation. and this, there's been an asserted attempt to can all of russia russians, russian culture, russian history, the works ok, but i would pause in the west is self cancelling itself in many ways because the, the global south in china, they just, they, they're not on board. they will not get on board at the west, finds itself isolated, something that we're talking about language rush is isolated at the same time putting in la proper, traveling a busy schedule. there's no global consensus against russia on this. and i would posit the west as isolating them so that they go sell no longer fears the west in

doesn't respect the west anymore. luck last word goes to you. but i agree. and i think that this has been one of the major shock. so here in the west this, you know, again, this is a narrative that the whole world is united behind you in the west. a nato is not that many in the countries and all that. so according to the west, instead, it doesn't mean that they're supporting russia, just mean stuff. this is a proxy war between nato and russia. the cost, the cost of ukrainian sunday, they didn't want to pick a sign in this. i mean, everyone's a russian probably on this will. stephen argument of the pope, obviously there was a hole in the category of this. so it is, it is a shame because this has been the strength of the wes, this being able to have this group and this course and challenge, astonished i did a thing,

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