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hello and welcome to cross stock. we're all things to consider that peter lavelle. the collective west face is economic disaster, high debt escalating inflation, diminished competitiveness, and a very serious energy crisis. much of this, not all of this have been self inflicted, but the worst crisis, the west spaces is the crisis of legitimacy and the failure of neal liberalism. ah, to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george m u l e. in budapest, he's a podcast, read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals, and the mirror cache. we crossed to martin j. he's an award winning journalist and commentator, or a gentleman crossed out rules and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. right, start out with george in budapest. what do you think of my introduction?

georgia, now overdue, and m r m m m, i prone to hyperbole here. but again that i stress all the right points that you did. it's a very succinct summary of where we are. i mean, when we think of legitimacy, what do we really means? we mean political ruling elites that can actually deliver what their voters in a democracy and what you know, what they're populous generally wants, which is peace, prosperity, and that the minimum security for food on the table and the protection from the elements. now the leaders of the west of signally failed to provide any of those things. and they've got themselves involved unnecessarily in a war, in which the west coast no discernable interests and, and they have done so full kind of bizarre, obscure,

illogical reasons that they have failed to articulate when they talk about the new world order. busy the liberal world or the rules based on that, not only resonates with voters because they are rightly don't understand what any of these terms means. and so, as we had towards staggering economic crisis with written will soon have a inflation rate of 11 percent. germany 8 percent where a few years ago, the idea of even one percent inflation from the germans meant my god, it was on his way back and. and then the united states is clearly heading towards the speculation. so it really is a question of why have the ruling in lease lead their countries into this disaster . disaster own choosing was another natural disaster of their own choosing murder. but everything the judge said it's completely obvious to all of us. but when we're

asked, you know, how do you going to address these issues? and we're, we hear the response go, we're going to back ukrainians as long as it takes, i mean, but that does it answer the question again. and it's really quite insulting, because decision makers, leadership in the west, they're there, they don't, they're not, they don't have to deal with the consequences of their own decision. i've always said, i doubt any of these leaders in europe in north america. have a clue, would have a local broadcast, a local very close or least wrestling, or even the panoramic cost. that's not really concerned. i'm not attached to that economy, but it's very disturbing. what you summarize about this mansion we keep hearing from the west, the term ukraine must fight to the last man. you know, my god. how incredibly paternalistic who do these people think they are, that, that if, when you look at the actual human collateral, you know how much value does the west put on one ukraine?

life will say nothing really at all. it's almost as though there it is in the human rights who live in air brushed. now the whole equation. now george talks about, you know, well this is all heading and why we have got this from the western leaves. this new rationale is new. we keep hearing about the so called reset button. you know, what is the reset button? i don't know what it is, you know is i, i don't think i know what it is, but i think what the western lease have been doing for very long time. certainly in my life time is making this transition from being on the governing and touching problems. head on to should know dealing with problems a tool, but simply make them so look busy as if to get this idea there represent the interests of people who actually believe in, you know, the new world order based on, on free speech, on libertarian. ready values on human rights, etc. all that, all that nonsense,

which we've been presented to for so long as being the, the foundations of western democracy, which we ask is really the, isn't really the true true, true story. i think what's happening now to, to explain what george touched on is i think a certain sense of panic. panic is setting in the western english. they don't know where they're going. that terrified of debate, debate is like the age of, of the new environment. you know, we don't want people actually talking and this is why i'm horrified to get on my laptop every morning and look at my twitter timeline and discover one more western jan. this being charged by the judiciary systems is a particular lady and jeremy now who's report to us. she has faced a legal case in her absence and she's got this, this trial against, for just reporting reporting the truth. and wasn't the least don't really like the truth as a commodity. they've control of the so called truth or seem truth to so wrong now. but i think

a panic is set again. and i think that is linked to ukraine. i think it's very much, you know, that they need to be more and more creative to support the what i call the super release. we keep looking at the lease. we tend to think of the leads of people liked about it or johnson or emmanuel micron. but they are really the puppets. really, this will dispose of the release, the real leads, a people who control equities and the stock market's the banks. major military industrial, complex, and even hollywood. this is the really real powers, the control people. let your bud and we've been living under this good sense for so long in the west, particularly america. that is okay. we have real democracy because we don't watch it, but we can vote him out. well, put him out. replacing with, with was, with whom, you know, another muffet wearing a cheap suit representing those super leafs. so i think to answer the question and to talk to you about what churches, i think we're witnessing the state of panic from super niche now. and ukraine is

part of the whole process of panic. m a church isn't ukraine. the deflection because of the panic that we've been, martin is just talked about. i mean, they problems are easily recognized. but in when you live in their ideological bubble, they don't have any answers. they don't have any tools. ok, that's, that's the problem they have. and the problem is they only talk to themselves. and what our problems are, they either don't recognize or could care less. because our concerns are not their concerns and they are more. busy they were more important because they have the power, george? yes sir, there was no question of that. and then we can see this even in the coverage in the media of the downfall of forest johnson in which the media obsess. you know, the devote hours and hours of coverage to all the gossip and trivia who said woman, who you, what about and when, and none of it has any rounds?

i mean, you just look at a, who cares when any, that way it will, britain facing 11 percent inflation when people are unable to afford the gas and electricity bills. and when you have essentially months of the month of negative growth, economy is, is stagnating. these are the issues that are roiling burton, and it's going to get even worse. we as, as we head into the windsor and who's the panic is also sitting in is the rest of the world, isn't buying what the west is selling and know whether it's india or china. they aren't interested in any of this liberal media, logical claptrap that blinking by the little hole that the some of the great struggle going on in the world when democracy in return isn't that?

no, i didn't. what lincoln is talking about it. i have no idea. i was with you and you know, the leaders of indian leaders of china, the national interest, you know, because they pose you, there, civilizational interest and ross are those the same. they understand russia point of view, they understand what russia is doing, but they have no understanding of what exactly the west is doing. what, what exactly the west is seeking to achieve in your grain. in fact, when we ask that question, what exactly is the west seeking to achieve a new credit? it's impossible dos that we're just going to go on. you know what i was, and then the ones we lensky will get. and we're just going to keep fighting. and we're going to wait, we're going to try and russians as much as possible. well with you to want. i mean, really where, where does this go? since you are no hope of winning and you have no hope of bringing the russian economy to sneeze. so the west is engaged in

a war that the rest of the world as no interest and doesn't understand what the west is doing or is johnson was brought up because it got, you know, correct me if i'm wrong. but he was headed to the conservative party, but in the last waning days of this agony or his premiership, he was talking about cops and masculinity and the glasgow conference. you talk about, we need to be more feminine. what i think voters didn't expect that i'm a conservative leader. maybe i'm wrong now because he, he was a bit old in the respect that he came from, the classic conservative background. the elite ism of being eaten, not many people in britain, even know the jo, some isn't really even english. he's russian greek, turkish and french. we rolled into one. so he's an old character, but he played up very much the lift. and i think that's because really, if you look at the winning blow of his last election, where he had almost

a landside was, was the huge contingent of old labor voters voted for him. the cross that line, you know, because they wanted to get it done. the tories, what have the next time around the next election? they want to play, but the story about joseph is really interesting. we're going to talk about nita some because johnson is a product of the whole liters and sheen in the u. k. and the reason why he had to be pulled out when the reason why there was this minor coup d'etat in england was because the conservative part to realize he wasn't playing by the rules rules of keeping this pretense going. that we have a servant. democracy in the u. k. and that we really believe in freedom speech and human rights and all this, you know, he was going off the rails, he was going away from the plantation, off the plantations, american say, and panic. the conservators will, will, if you carried on doing that, it doesn't matter about the scandals that you keep on. but if you carry on doing it, people will start realize, actually this isn't a function,

democracy anymore. and then there was a facade here, you know, where super leach in our country take the big decisions. and, you know, and i think a big part of george mentioned the, the, the unintended consequence of countries no longer buying a product that probably wasn't factored in to taking on russia in the u. k. you know, the fact that you have this acceleration now of bricks, countries you have this amalgamation of russia, india, china, together looking to see how can we put around markets, you know, forget about the west. you know, let's look to forward. exciting, but i'm sure the super leads of these western countries didn't touch that in what they were thinking about. i think the 2 fundamental things. first of all, how can we create a monumental distraction to all of our fil policies in the west, you know, create a war somewhere that's a burning way of just hurting all your journalists. you know, taking them away. you said you have 2 points here. you said one,

we're going to go to a quick break, and after the break, we're going to get your number to 30. ah, ah! only one main thing is important for not ism internationally speaking. that is, that nation's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nation. so all the slaves, americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous volume in their wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy. so some of it on your own, i actually stood off to the one in tablet block. nato said it's

hours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous, is it? the law is the sovereignty of all the countries. the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is founded, shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large obs companies would lose millions and millions or is business and businesses good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion. ah, ah ah

ah, welcome out across the dock were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. this is the home addition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah martin, going to back to you america? sure. you mentioned your 1st point. what is your 2nd go ahead. the 2nd point is the see were corruption. and corruption always plays a big role. i'm, when they leave start to fail when they start to lose the grip on the countries that are controlling the super leads in western europe. i think our son to panic and i think they're starting to worry that they will not be able to support themselves in the longer term. how do you have you insure against that? you know, how do you back up your how do you create a backup plan? against that, you take 40 or $50000000000.00 on the table and you push it across the table to

your buddy is in an industrial miniature complex. you sent a you guys just take that, that should keep it going for a while now. and by the way, it is more to come, you know, to, you know, you have these huge rounds which in european union and america about illegal state aid. the when it war comes, well there's still a little girl, the window you give as much money as you want to your own company. so ratio lockheed martin, even worse, give huge sums of money to $1.00 of the most corrupt countries in the world, which before february 24th of this year, it was well known ukraine was a victory correctly. i want to change gears a little bit. george, it's very interesting to me. we had a number of con, fab's. we had, you know, brussels, you know, the use always in permanent, a meeting. and we had the g 7. we had nato, but the most important meeting was the g. 20, which the u. s. net a g 7 now ice armor basically disrupted and made it into

a non event. they obstructed it for reasons that you and martin of already talked about here is that they want the, the g 7 element of the g 20. if i can put it that way, they want to make sure their agenda is pursued and everybody else saying, no, we're not on board. i mean, you don't want to solve the world's problems that you actually have created your sanctions, your secondary sanctions. we don't want to be part of that. we want to solve problems. we all know about growing food insecurity, sanctions and secondary sanctions. and again, obstruction, obstruction, obstruction, i would pause and george the, the global south is no longer with number one, not interested in what the west asked to say, but more importantly, it doesn't fear it anymore. go ahead, george. good, excellent point it with so problems aspect of it is very interesting because as you say, the g 7 crowd, they attended and they wanted to make it all about russia and. ready not to come

up with any kinds of solutions, which is what the others said. okay, well let's you know, here we all ok, let's see if we can discuss this and come up with a plan to resolve this problem. no, no, no, we just want to make the symbolic gestures, which is that i will not meet sir kayla wrong. i will not shake his dirty hand and i will not close in a collective photograph afterwards and i will not take part in any joint communicate. so how does that solve the problem? how do we move forward from that? and then i think is really beginning to define the difference between the west and the rest of the world because the rest the work does thing. ok, well we've, we've set up these organizations and how do we try to resolve problems? and i think there really is something that you love wrong. emphasizes this over time, which is when we set up these organizations, whether it breaks the shanghai cooperation, organizational the c. s. t o r or the,

the, the asian, the economic area we're doing with a view to solving problems. we don't do it in order to direct and again, someone else it right now we're all together. you know, let's see how much we can hate the other. but as far as the witness doesn't always get the logically driven, they get together the g 7 get together and nato, and the e. u. m. boy though, is to shake their fist at either russia or china or anyone else who's not on board with the other west agenda. so, i mean, this is more, becoming a kind of an angry uncle. everyone is having to just ignore that. you know, what do they have to say to us? i was thinking with angry uncle, but i think the west is the global care. it right now is like, oh, there they go. and they're going out the handle, you know, they're very rational. you know, don't talk, never say calm down because that makes them really more angry here. but it's very

to martin, you know, i'm looking at in the west. they don't give a whole lot of coverage because they're, you know, they're not up in front and center. and they will be in 2008, the d 20, i would say, did play a positive role least getting a global consensus to deal with the economic crisis at the time. but that's sort of the purposes of the west. economic crisis came out of the west. ok. and then, you know, we have this situation meeting this year and the west doesn't want to participate in having global solutions get maybe you don't like what's going on in ukraine, but i think everybody's been so we don't want to have family in africa. i mean, i think it shows the lock maturity coming from the west because it's ideologically possess. yeah, it's, i'd love to be possessed with his own narrative, which i think is straight to the fraud. you know, they're, they're, they're obsessed with having their own agenda on their own, against their own role. but it's interesting and the role of africa could be critical in an end game in ukraine because what's gonna happen the next few weeks,

a couple of months. this is some of these are countries nafrica going to start suffering. and the 1st person they're going to turn to a certain situation. they return to your opinion in brussels, which has been bang on a trauma so long now about, you know, we can help you with trade and a, you could reform with human rights. there was a conference very recently in brussels, with all the heads of african states. and the message from the africans were, are sick and tired of you preaching to us about human rights. you know what, we want much more european union. what's happening is the old relationships between the lowest african countries i'm the cleaning of masters is falling apart. just recently, last few days. the french pulled out their last troops for molly, which was an absolute catastrophe for macro, you know, to, to fly the, for the french flag and molly, and to dish out the moral tutelage about human rights and fighting terrorism. when in reality, all that was bullshit, actually the french will protect so big contracts for huge french multi nationals and to protect french citizens who are working for them,

the parenthesis to that was the money. and we're hoping that we could get some kind of deal with the french, whereby they would protect us if we have some civil political uprising now. the old deal with colonial powers will the unwritten deal was what will help you with that, you know, for most of the sixties and seventies and eighties, but that's over now. you know, we can't do that anymore just to see the saudis, and most of the state is discovered junior spring when they look to the americans. when they start to get worried about political incentives. see, you know, that's why these companies are looking more and more to russia because we've lost more was huge list that moral high ground, you know, in the west we don't out that influences anymore. so, you know, the role of africans is going to be very interesting if they decide they've had enough of this relationship, this nonsense. and they turn to the former clean power. it's brittany from just say you need to help us out. we need hundreds of millions of dollars now and food date and people in britain or from say, well actually that's quite difficult because we've got people here. the actually

starving lines of food banks are getting longer and longer gasoline is getting out of control in britain, people are actually leaving the jobs because they can't afford to drive to work. that is how crazy it is. you know, there is going to be a tipping point at a certain point where the entropy is going to say to the applicants, i'm sorry, we can't help when that happens. everything changes. because what, where did the african chum, they turn to russia? that's such an interesting point. george air was already mentioned, or i think mark mentioned earlier, ok the fall of forest johnson. ok. in the british press, it was, it was just kind of a national enquirer stuff, you know, who said what, who was at that party, which is, why should any of us care about it? he's gone now. joe biden is going to get us so shall, lacking in november in some, you know, there'll be a new speaker of the house in all these things here. but george and martin year things are not going to change. okay. and this is what the panic that i think martin quite happily is mentioned here because none of these people have any

solutions to these problems. you know, you want to change people on a chessboard and things like that. but it's not fundamentally because neo liberalism is the problem in this political class. so i think the panic. is this going to continue and continue? because the status quo simply is not tenable. yes, absolutely. right. i mean, you have one of the leading candidates to take over from bars. johnson is richie soon act was a billionaire hedge fund manager investment banker. ok, well we know, you know where, what his agenda is. and we've seen the in the united states recently, we had mike from delivering an important address of the hudson institute, which is as belligerent, if not more belligerent than the bite on administration. if, in fact, is in visiting war with russia and china at the same time. and so one

is at the very least a candidate to be vice president. do you know whoever is the republican nominee? so we don't have a system in which somebody new leader could emerge to say, we're going completely wrong. i mean, look at germany and i all, i've sold, the social democrats are doing or any dismal. ok, but the people who is number one, number 2 christian democrats and the greens, them all religion shortage. i mean then bad beef with shows is that he's not doing enough for ukraine. and again, we have the case of the united states. it's quite possible that donald trump will return to power in 2025, but truck will be in the same position as he was in 2017. i mean, if you really tries to affect some major change in u. s. foreign policy. that you know, the deep state or whatever you call it is going to come off. i mean, you know, they will, they've already got the plan in place as to what it will be that we some very,

and he's working for, you know, he's, he's got a plan to destroy the west and whatever. we can be sure that there's a plan really in place to destroy him before he becomes president. could be the 3rd impeachment trial. you know that? yes. know that. ok, absolutely. you know, you brought up democracy here. what i think, what i'm really quite pathetic is they like to mount the word democracy, but they don't want any real democracy to be in play because their priorities, the average citizen has no idea as we point. i'm going to have no idea why you say this is important for me because it's not ok and they always can find the limit that the overton window is that we're about what you can actually talk about. because if you're not talking about their priorities, then somehow and we've gotten to this in 2022, you're unpatriotic. you're a toady of someone. you're misinformation a role martin, go ahead. yeah,

i agree. and that's the whole point about debating is it's, it's, it's any kind of any kind of debate. it's been shut down, good team and i used to get smidge get suit or taking the course if you even want to look at new ideas on off, you know, what's the big picture? it's worry. i think it's really worrying, but we've come to the stage. what worries me more is that some of these countries are going to include politically, we don't have a subway yet. you know, so many people learn. that's all the time we have here. and what i think, my guess in budapest, america, when i think our viewers are watching us here, are the see you next time, remember? ah, ah, no nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all the history. ah

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