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i'm peter lavelle has a so called american century come to an end. if so, how did it come about? was it poor leadership or the mission to lead the world itself was always destined to fail? and what follows the end of the american center with crow, sucking the end of the american century. i'm joined by my guess peter cousin, akin. bethesda. he's a professor of history and director of the nuclear studies institute at american university as well as co author with oliver stone of the untold history of the united states and assemble. we have pepe escobar, he's an independent geopolitical analyst and author specializing in eurasia. and in callaway cross gem baraka. he is a national organizer for the black alliance for peace or a gentleman, cross stock rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you. i mean this is bait is program is kind of based on this article by david preston are in harper's magazine and it was the

title of the article was empire burlesque. and it kind of said a lot of shockwave, lot of people really kind of surprised by it, but i don't think anybody on this panel would be surprised by it whatsoever. and i found it really quite amusing that this was such a bold article and you know, and you know, it, it, it is a critique of the, of the elite and all that. i thought it was a good chronology, but he didn't say anything that was particularly interesting or new. go ahead, pepe. now this is a mediocre se, mediocre acid for mediocre readers in america, you know, the best writers in across the erasure russians. chinese iranians, pakistan. these indians across latin america, the best brazilians, argentinean 0. bryan's across africa. well, they have been writing about this in detail for over 10 years now. if not, since the meet to thousands at the height of the war on terror. basically,

we all know that the free lunch that lasted for 75 years is over. so we are now discussing what's gonna happen next, of course. and you just need to take a look at what's happening at the su. busy busy summit in september in summer. what happened at the breaks in beijing a few weeks ago. what happened after the run 3 part by some guy. why easy and food seen in that on this week? this is where are we going? interaction of all of these institutions across eurasia, towards what the russians themselves have called greater erasure partnership. but it's bigger than eurasia. it's, i would say it's, you know, you'll rough free asia as well. let's bring africa to it. and let's bring less than matter. well, it's is the new world, it's been, it's a absolutely, i agree with peter. if the, if i could read a quick fragment from the article here,

are we doomed to witness the return of great power rivalry in which the united states in china, by for influence or will that the decline of the us per produce novel forms of international collaboration kind of dovetailing on what peppy has to say, is it, is this even an important question anymore? i mean, i, that the, you know, because the really the, the way the, this article is written about american leads, should we lament the end of the american century or not? i mean, i don't even think that's a question anymore. that is, i think this is what this mindset is all about. the world is moving on and the us has to find its place in it. that's probably a better way of putting it go ahead. peter of biden came to power, saying that he was going to restore american hegemony after the trump years. and he was going to unite the europeans behind the americans. united says is going to provide leadership to the world. and we see how well that's worked out. situation

internationally has only gotten worse in the past 2 years. and the reason why we can't allow this kind of bifurcation, this kind of division, is because we're facing existential crises with dealing with the climate is the most obvious. while now as the, as europe is burning, as the runways are melting in london, i as the fires made it this, this, the heat wave people are dying. it's only going to get worse. only going to get much, much worse. and we're facing an existential crisis because of the nuclear threat. the west is committed, europeans in the united states are committed to defeating russia. even though they themselves say, many leaders understand that if they succeeded and made potent desperate, then russia would likely resort to nuclear weapons,

which would again potentially precipitate the end of life on the planet. so we that in a position where we have the luxury to sit back and allow the 2 sides with their insular views and backward notions to destroy our planet. so are facing a serious crisis right now. american hegemony isn't as, as already, and it even charles krauthammer in 1090 proud hammer. now this is america's unipolar moment, right in 2002. he says, i was wrong. this is a unit poly ear at 2nd, last 30 or 40 years, like i thought it's going to last indefinitely. but by 2006, even krauthammer, after the devil's in iraq and afghanistan, even krauthammer, had to admit that the american unipolar moment and unipolar erode, were a fantasy. so we've known this oliver stuttering. i wrote about this extensively and unfold history and my other colleagues. i show been writing about this, talking about it for years. the question is,

how do we prevent this from turning into, at the crisis that ends life on our planet? a jumbo. i think it's really interesting um, noting what peter and pet pay of already said here is it can't, can the world survive america reckoning that is no longer the hedge amount. i mean, this is what it really gets down to because it's so in says she was the political leads in the united states. and the, the, the, the, it is so narrow the definition of how they see their place in the world. it's either all or, or they'll be chaos again. this article is very light headed in the way i look at it is because it doesn't look at the, the, the realities playing out on the ground and is peppy said here the world is moving on. and the u. s. s to find its place in it, and that's something that americans can't contemplate because of american exceptionalism, which we'll talk about later. go ahead in cali or, you know, peter, you're absolutely right. the other commentaries are spot on the money. the basically what we have is the u. s. the lead on able to,

to excel the new political reality. they seem to be committed to their notion of full spectrum dominance no matter what the conditions are. and it seems that they are prepared to basically blow up the world in order to maintain the dominance of the, of the european project. and that's why we say to david this, this represents the existential threat to collective global. you manage that there's a pathological commitment on the part of the, of the white west, if you will, or to maintain global hegemony is putting all of us a threat. and that basically, unless and until we able to ship power from the u. s. u natal project. all of us are facing the possibility of a global catastrophe. well, peppy,

i mean what, what is driving this here? i mean from the west there is an ideological for you, is it just economy could gemini, because i always, i tend to fall back on the sense of american exceptionalism, that they, the american elite. and he talks about here, liberal intervention is versus restraints, which i think is a joke because both camps, it, if you want to say they believe in american exceptionally. and that is the great barrier to accept the fact that we are a pre ordained to run the world. that is something that is part of the american dna . how do they deal with it? pepe. well, in continental europe. it's still the primacy of the ideas of the, like. this is something that we see specially in france and injure it, but don't you know, peppy, don't you think they, that i think they're actually in defiance of their own ideals, you know, sanctity a problem to process freedom of speech? absolutely no, no they, it's all, it's all rubbish. okay. i don't think they,

they never did. i didn't find the enlightenment. go ahead, pepe. yeah. but they don't see it is. it's amazing. i like i live between east and west as a lot of people know. i just came back from natal stand in france for almost 3 months and i arrive in this the move in, i feel relieved. i can have an intellectual dialogue in just a book which i tried many times to have in paris and it's absolutely impossible. and these people do, you know, their life meant by heart, but they simply don't see how their own ideals are melting nowadays. in the u. k, it's different, it's still a little bit of a white man's burden less and of course, america is in every cielo, of intelligence, all so called the pathogen. us is about american exceptionalism. it's an extremely america centric view of the world. and we don't need to go back to live east coast

to once again state that americans as a rule of thumb simply cannot understand the other. and the problem is the other, which is basically the global south, which is 88 percent of the world's population. now they are finding an alternative model or all sort of converging models. and they are trying to build literally a new system of international relations for from the point of view of from an gym on a point of view, either continental europe, u. k, or america. and the collective west as oh, this is be owned. i'm not to my, this is the ultimate, but it's assumption, but they will never happen. yeah. the history now, but peter, this, this mindset when they call it american exceptionalism. but i mean, and it's eurocentric as well. and it's untenable, i mean, it's really amazing. you know, you look at europe right now because of what's going on, the ukraine. they have an energy crisis, possible food crisis. they are food bags here. and they still hold these ideas that

they're the center of the world. go ahead peter. well they, in some ways they are still very, very relevant and very important. you know, we can discount the west when we're looking at the future of humanity at this point . the problem is that they're so short sighted take the case of biden, yet biden wants to weaken russia. he wants to punish russia. and in order to do so, he is effectively creating conditions in the u. s. and in much of the rest of the world that are going, especially in the us now, the big issue on people's mind is inflation. the cost of living gas, housing, all these real concerns and what biden's policies are doing now in order to punish russia, is exacerbating that making it worse. creating more suffering is approval ratings

are in the low to mid thirty's right now. and what it is, effectively doing is saying he's willing to allow donald trump the republicans, the fascists, the climate and ires pete. apparently not like i've been here. i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on the end of the american center is staying with our team with no one else seem wrong when i just don't want you to see how you see the african and engagement equals the trail. when suddenly find themselves wilson,

wine, we choose to look for common ground. ah, lisa canter, russian state total narrative. i've stayed as i'm phone and ignore slam. steve asked me him. the american house house runs them up for a group in the 55 we did. okay. so mine is the final speed, the one else calls with. we will ban in the european union the kremlin jeff machine, the state aunt, rush up to date and school r t spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube with even close with

me. ah, welcome back to cross stock were all things are considered on peter la built to manager? we're discussing the end of the american century. ah . go back to peter in bethesda, i'm sorry, had to cut you up. we had to go to a hard break. go ahead, finish your thought peter. lenny quite frequently chest. he said in individuals insanity is rare. but in groups, parties, nations, and epics. it is the rule up to this point i least till 77 years ago with the atomic bombs at hiroshima and nagasaki. we did not have the power to and life on the planet the way we do now. so i,

you see in the united states democracy is very, very fragile right now. you've got one party committed to destroying american democracy, the little bit democracy. it is still remains in the united states and biden, in his policy in his efforts to, to weaken punish russia is bringing about the collapse, the further destruction of american democracy. bringing the trumpets back into power takes no rational sense. and what we're seeing on a global scale right now also makes no rational sense. so, i mean, i think we're at it at a crucial turning point. because the united states, while it might not have the moral authority and might not have the economic power that it once did, still has the power to bring the world down. and so that's what makes us so dangerous. and others recognize at the meeting in anchorage between lincoln a sullivan and a to chub top chinese foreign policy officials

a back in march of last year when, when he says to blanket to sullivan, he says, you don't have the authority to talk to us like this any more, you can't talk to us when position of strength. well, that's true, but there is nobody providing international leisure pepe is more optimistic, but he lives in the global south than i am right now. because i see a struggle that is much more dangerous and much more unresolved. i see some positive developments. i also see negative ones. i see yoon winning in south korea . i see japan moving sharply to the right. i see a lot of very dangerous trends as well. as some positive ones. ok, let's go back to cow here. one of the things that i bit of observed here on how the global south is reacted to the situation in ukraine. and i think it's important to state here is that the global south no longer the 1st who doesn't respect the west

any more because of its hypocrisy, but it doesn't fear it is much either. and that is a significant paradigm shift right now, because we see the global south is basically saying, you know, we don't want to get involved in a conflict that you generated. then we can talk about the origins while we want. but they're saying it's not our fight and why should and then if it, when the idea of sovereignty or you have to protect ukraine sovereignty. but the global south is saying, we're going to protect our sovereignty to by not getting involved in your fight. and i think this is a paradigm shift there. they're no longer respect or fear the west go ahead in cali . but you know, you know, peter, you knew you're right. oh, but i think that what we single this out to isn't understanding that in fact, power is shifting to, to the non european world if you will. and so there's always been a understanding of the potential power here in the global. so we understood the parasitic relationship between the development of the north and the on the development of the south of but now the conditions are such that basically there's

the possibility of more effective resistance. as to what we see in the global of are the experiments taken place of the reconstruction of societies along a new past of development and new lines of, of values. and that is something that i think is very, very positive. one of the things that we have to understand is that a, what makes the north so incredibly dangerous is that this, this, this inflated sense of itself is a belief that without its leadership globally be sure that the, that the world can no longer exist as we know it goes back to your point about about us exceptionalism. you have your opinion exceptionalism, the psycho pat biology, white supremacists, white supremacists, etiology has to be addressed front and center. the europeans have to understand that they are no longer the center of the world. and again, when they understand that, and we able to, to make that reflect a material reality,

that is shifting power from the europeans, that we have the possibility of developing and constructing a new world. ok, pepe in this article here by this david breast. a essentially is asking, what is the world like after the american century? is it a good thing should be we'd be afraid, because i think i think you're right peter is a little bit more pessimistic. you're a little bit more optimistic. where do you, where does it go from here? because that the global system ever since 945 has been centered on the west, specifically the united states. that is slowly drifting away. is that a good thing? a bad thing, a dangerous thing? go ahead, pepe. well, if i was really a passive nihilist not an active night list as nature, i would give up completely and isolate myself, one of volcanic island somewhere. i still, i still, i still get, i'm a writer in writers as you all know the di writing. so i will die writing and at

least trying to find the array of lights into, into this mile strong. edgar alone polls miles from inside. and that's why these past few years, i have been focusing on what's happening across the region, the development slowly, but surely of all these organizations, this young guy, corporation, organization, eurasia, economic union, now bricks plus, which is something that the chinese and the russians have been pushing for quite a while now, the c s t o o, the projects of the new will so groves and merging with the russian concept of greater ration partnership and how all of these organizations and this, a framework across eurasia is spilling over towards africa. latin america.

when the remote to be to be share here to be fair here, you know, this is one of the origins of the crisis in ukraine because, you know, ukraine has to be part of the west because it, you have to separate it from russia to week in russia, the reason why i'm bringing this up. i go to peter right now, is that i agree with what pepe has been talking about all these organizations. but the us is not very happy about it because it wants to maintain the deputy. and that's what makes it a very dangerous country. go ahead peter. no question about that. yes, and, you know, at least we see some interesting trends and some hopeful trends. latin america, a lot of progressives are winning elections now. and lula hopefully will come back to power. in brazil, there's some good things happening. but then we also see this august deal. i india is a very important player. is the biggest, the 2nd biggest country in the world, and will soon be the, the largest country in the world. and is trying to, like many countries that people don't want to choose sides. the u. s. is trying to

force attract countries to choose sides again. and people are resisting, and that's a positive part of the positive trend of puppies i correctly identify. but we have such big problems that we need to somehow figure out a way for the u. s. in the europeans to get back in the game in a positive sense. because even if we talk look about global warming. if the what, what one of the consequences of what this war that the russian invasion of ukraine is setting back the need for boot dealing aggressively with global warming setting this back potentially for years is and so yeah, but, but peter did say no and you try to convince me that these people actually believe this about climate change. i mean, if it is so existential, so dire, and they flip on it on a dime. no, we had to go after russia 1st. i mean,

are they sincere people where they just buffoons? well then up the phones that's, that's part of the problem and they can be dangerous it because of their ideology, because the way they view the world and this goes back to the start of the cold war . you know, i write this started found most important document for me is a memo they george kennan rotan, 948. when he says the u. s. has 6.3 percent of the world's population, but controls 50 percent of the world health. you know how we can to maintain this position of disparity. we live in a world that where the richest 8 people are more wealth than the pores for 1000000000 people. more and more people are falling into poverty. you know, and so we have serious, serious, crazy, i mean that, that, that we've got, that's what neoliberalism is created for all of us. ok. let's go back to cowley because when i think is really interesting, is that with the rise of the global, so it doesn't seem to be very ideological to me. i mean, i, i look at, you know,

sovereignty prosperity. i mean, those are simple ideas to understand and not all this garbage that's coming out of the west rules based order. whatever that means. ok. i mean, i think what we need is more pragmatism in less ideology. go ahead and cali. will you know, renew that? and we also need to, to always include in the picture, the parasitic relationship, the non exportation is, was driving much of the politics here. and also, they understand that we can no longer continue in a relationship of dependency with the global north, with of the, the global capital, a system that is dependent on the continuation of the oppression exportation of people around the world. so that's why people don't want to be pulled into this conflict in europe, even though they are being detrimentally impacted by this conflict. there's also why the u. s. as unable u. s. and europe is unable to, to bring people long,

politically, an ideologically, to go to south. because people in a global, remember that job was zalinski and ukraine are tempted to try to negotiate the dead debt payments with europe. we remember that most of the global sub nations failed to get any kind of relief or from, from debt payments at the height of the pandemic. so these kinds of relationships are, are fresh in our minds and therefore these moral appeals to join them in there are glorious struggle against the rushes fall on deaf ears. we recognize again, that until there is a, until we on to mine be the prestige of the west is notion of the, of the west, of being the leaders of humanity. and that we all should be striving to, to, to, to, to be a part of that. and to see that as a model and so on, the west understands of the people, the west understand that they no longer can be the sensor. then we're going to

continue with this, these appeals to exceptionalism and for that for that to well, i guess the big question is, can we survive the, the period after the american century, we're all going to find out because it's not happening right now. gentlemen, that's all the time we have here. i want to thank my gets in college with that and assemble. and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time, remember crossel? ah ah ah

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