was already inside this archetype pattern, now manifest itself in the steep rise in russia's domestic travel. as russians faced with these restrictions in the west allowed to explore the reaches of their own country. thus, every journey indeed lead home. well, to discuss, i am now joined by the and bullet sheriff, a popular travel blogger and russia south, and when did ambassador for the arctic and the forest? by then at the study done, it's great to have you with us today. yeah, i'm glad we did our paths crossed had the eastern economic forum businesses in previous years, all green. the faro was attended by man international. get an example. next francine. see what nicea, not so many man, it was again the number of russians in nor traveling abroad is also brent leong. on the other hand, domestic travel seems to be as arise now in russia. martian him 3 and many are touring the country even though. can you think it's because they have no choice or is there really a lot of interesting things to see in russia?

shut the number of principal simple michael. bruce thought, i believe it's what they call a silver lining will across to solomon. i think it was difficult for people to view russia as a place to explore syria, mainly because international destinations clearly had services of much better quality to offer east. and they were easier to get to us was just bay and you're all set below the chair. russia was really behind in terms of tourist infrastructure and quality of service applicants. now that people have started traveling around russia or so i'm really happy to see that for many and now discovering that there's so much more to it than they thought it did. lake by cow girls is not the only destination or in the east. it up of this for you so much more beyond that, watson, that in fact, crossley, australia, which is located near by call, it is right in the middle of russia halfway between its western most when you mind eastern mosul point source. so i feel great of seeing my subscribers exploring the

article go and the russian far east with their unique echo systems. and there's a lot to see there to me and what's important, just gimme, it's also a lot cheaper to visit on compared to well established tourist destinations. surely what i'll see also we're developing transportation networks here. so some of the leading russian air carrier runs regular flights from moscow to mose destinations. so the russian far east will cause the airfare to day score compared to say 5 or 10 years ago. we so much more affordable years to some way to the us national sale. i said shows a you've certainly got a little bullet on bed. leslie of nas others near bohemia, not, not late in the earlier saying. it's about comfort. come forth, santa tiff service san and affordability. is there anything else or is this the recipe for a good trip? wasn't it if the bulk generally well this is the recipe and yes, killed my go. now we're talking about tourism. so naturally tourism means travel

1st and foremost, so the element of transportation is certainly important. but as much comfort also matters, flora natal, whichever exotic destination you may choose to explore, or you whether it's skate destiny of her with a view of alaska, we're just only 4 kilometers. separate russia from americans, cup or c, came to loose skin with a polar bears, all wrangle islands will skin us. you always want to return to safety and comfort law after experiencing extreme conditions for parents than you wanted right there. and then so let me give you an example. here we were shooting a documentary recently in chicago campbell, the, when i was directing it, or we spent a month there in total, mitchell and in that climate tickets we were both cold and wet all the time. every day, i have no idea how or equipment kept working. it seems like a miracle to me, shares and coming back to dry, warm place sir, after a day's work was fantastic and more, you could take off your clothes, take

a hot shower, change into something, try and be ready to go out again. you bet. you're a professional traveler, we need as much as you enjoy it. it's also what you do for a living. i love the shows and i sure do. and we as that, if i understand it correctly, you're trying to visit some of the less popular locations to me in my through i don't think that's right. or we try to direct our travelers to new destination. so i'm wondering, i can give you a great example of this year. we reached the northernmost pointer on the continent in the russian far easily port is called from with ox. the cape. it's anita katya when we saw the glazes incredibly beautiful, like a huge rock on the credit accounts into the arctic ocean. almost like an ice breaker at the sand is the northernmost point in the russian far east miss steely, we published our records on both russian and a chinese social media. mix it and got millions of views. miliano bras are some chinese tour agencies approached us keep asking to organize a trip for them are so they could seize and assess it or as

a potential destination for chinese tourists worked on god. also this year we're going there with 7 asians, a delegation from china. we as well as a t v crew representing china's top tv channel to film. it's few law. we have a tour planned out for them. foster with our that will include the box, the keep her name as well as the timer peninsula, to showcase everything including siberia in russian far east and the arctic heal sub. so this way we are creating a product both for russian and national tourists. lloyd lane could easter or do they seem like i said, i want the machine that as a popular belief, he beach in russia especially as young as that dog hearing, say, milan at 90 milan boys a lot cooler in more comfortable account or more, more accessible o one month than 2 in moments clear to the point that many russian travelers was the means you should have traveled the world, yo la. but while their own country remains an uncharted territory for them. what with you just mentioned that josh already has places that can offer. suppose that

while a t experience, as i sal ever, i wonder if russia has something, no other place has what she am i now with my honey tougher nor yesterday go into a club shift so on. well, you know, i say the most unforgettable experience is in meeting people to play. you can find good and bad people everywhere last year. but in the north or in the arctic, they are as authentic as it gets. here we were making a film about an old whale hunter of his ancestors at a 100 wales for 7 or 8 generations. we on tom was we were following him everywhere and might day and day out. and one day, when we came to his home of his grandson of around 20 years, opened the door. we said to we came to film his grandfather to which he replied that his grandfather was having a meal with the goddess on the great, we're sad when can we start margaret? as soon as he has done shock that she said to us down and shut the door, i don't get it look out for she wasn't trying to offend us. it was just that simple

for him. just once his grandma was finished with what we could do our field, then he would have shot. that's how they go about everything in life. of simple and sincere, regarded, let's have very rare qualitative find. he should from august to lunch, when it comes to natural attractions. we have everything we could wish for is like one great place i recommend to everyone these days. and i believe it's going to be super popular soon or they are both was domestic and international tourists. are going to wants to live border restrictions are lifted over, is the southern and northern curial islands receivable inquiry with this place is mind bending while dash is like quick finding yourself on the saddle of a jurassic park movie or something like that. you will cross, it feels almost like iceland or you low for to norway, there store or some other places. and you realize you can get it all these unique experiences. cross the quote all at once. and in one place several here in russia, 2 or last month, can you believe i'm not mistaken? it was duster. yes. he has said that russia includes everything and the entire

world alertly. it does. and the chest that i see is parts of russia the far east and the arctic mazano explored. by traveling enthusiasts and estates didn't contribute much to that quest valid. it was mostly private initiatives that have all this in mind how deeply these people cared for the wildlife in those parts misuse for the local population. correct me if i'm wrong, that as far as i know i, she can either the russian empire or the soviet union or the russian federation. i ever tried to enforce rushing culture and language on the indigenous people coach to bring civilization to them. so to say, you know, what have you seen in your travels were way not a just to bullet lexical on the keyboard and you, well they to go. there have been some near bullets, call them necessary improvements, introduce their, or the board like education for example. you much thought in some places religious missions were established. if it's true that russia has never tried to uproot all any local traditions on your lifestyles or culture. quine which,

today you can visit a small distant settlement, sir. so let me give you an example for throw off even because when we visited the numbers, severe sc islands was originally alar cardenas. so we met a crafts woman there. so user who makes diskin footwear on, feel that the double side that craft has been passed down to her through 4 generations of her ancestors than you might sir. e. kirk, great grandmother. fortunate. they made the same kind of boots with exactly the same design. all of dollar russian explorer lewis barren from tall and he is sort of older expedition and he got stopped at the novice abuse islands as these searched for the legendary sandy cough land in the early 20th century. and now i can say that i own a pair of deer skin boots, sort of identical to those that are made for baron from tall this port for those out at the end. well, they're still available. i did seek up. this is a true ition that has been preserved for generations. the key tasks

a day it says to help indigenous people maintain these traditions or thought of shocked by them. yet we were making a film about a whale hunter, and those are one and a very long line of whale hunters. and any of course, and you know, people like me and you, but which we don't have that kind of self identity that he has always thought doing what his ancestors had been doing. been strict since the 11th century, near cable, pref, sure. and he is a wearing modern gear and striving and modern rhodes altima, but she is a whale hunter. don't look down, wasn't that big done support in the traditional lifestyles at a local. my language is spoken by small groups of people is pretty expensive for any state. it kills la. can't argue with that, it's much easier to create reservations for them. it was not necessary reservations . you could just have these people, assimilation exists. what i meant when i said reservations to burn the yesterday,

what it is graded and russia, we have stayed support programs for such indigenous peoples. and sheer of the forum . i saw a lot of ethnic minorities involved color. there was a house of indigenous people at the far east street exhibition. also russia will be presiding over the arctic councils or for the next 2 years. and that sir, we introduced significant studios. we actually ran a number of expeditions in support of to programs like these channels and ideal and now is it all done for promotion? so we could have an exhibition of local traditions special. why do you think? does that for a big station with imperial ambitions? was manny see here, what's the point of invest in ethnic minorities? let me explain this live up there. political. what would i came to the arctic 10 years ago. what i thought that all people living there are the same. sure. did i call it? but tommy on it, 1st of all, that's what i saw or do, but later i realized that was not jason your side. yet some even reindeer breeders

are all different in the event, right? the rain, dia to t of the hurdle scale. you all the level of a pussy cheat followed the free roaming, heard about, and if cyril's needs, if i can give lots of examples, they're all different ordinance. some ethnic groups have under a 1000 people just like the you car gurus, blood but each has its own remarkable history and culture units. and they are all parts of our great country level. and when you see these indigenous peoples called, could you realize how great all russia really ease with its reach and versatile culture and identity? so this is incredible. all been done. we have to take a short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. say chant. ah, ah ah,

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ah, obama's protect his own existence with oh, i see . mm. mm hm. well, come back to one of the partners that russian traveler. i'm going down the bullet shop by them with microcosm before the break. we were talking about diversity in russia as yet i see just today the world is engaged in inactive discussion about the world order and different perspectives on life. i need to call texas, i know the war and ukraine is part of their discussion. look across your definitely

was well in your pro diversity doesn't require them weights well and this is really shoes in your video. just much died. secondly, i was put in your films yet, but did not seem like some one from so to say the evolved dwelt big brothers. a person from a different place is health is both true to himself and tries not to change. others starts to when your opinion, how can we make the world except is diversity? no, again, you are jania at the moment ago, but i showed my seated. well, it's all relative slighted of not that one man's trash is another man's treasure, clerical, different people can have different opinions, self, one of the same things as well. so he will, we need to respect all views and at the same time, so my loud people's right for romco law, self expression will chest the always, i believe that russia is also very good at it. actually hold up, there's room for a groove and sure bud general, we don't force anybody to give up their i density outsourced plenty in terms of

ethnicity, traditions or in religion or when it illegal people enjoy these freedoms and russia on less than that. and i think that's great. okay, so when there is kalu answered in an interview, that is if you had a chance to choose how join senior expeditions, it's be, has of the arctic states. what gap i'm credited to, what can they learn saying it on those ships than law the lab? she looks not so much about learning. look a communion more, it would be good for them to see how people leave inside the arctic circle because it changes you when you see people who don't have any social crutches to lean on, is that it when you can, your thought. if a person owns a snowmobile here, quitting, it's not for having fun with your friends. surgery the weekends. suddenly burnett portfolio. i at that at the hostile they use it to get food with water and other supplies. he draw, it's their lifeline. it the reason? yes, lima quit. what if people have no need for a social tool or a gadget?

nice. they don't use them. portion interior sleepover don't get distracted by all the social bars and noise doesn't have all that information suggested to us like mom, with all the ads. closing as to why the newest smartphone mode or something for la la, la, let in here. sure. so people often pursued these kind of things, goodness of them, but not there. you can sit in the family, no themes and this, that a language. this comes down. she exits an existential question that we all can relate to. what is life and what is the meaning of it? what? what is freedom less through? now? sure, softly how your travels influenced your wealthier to think of? do you feel change to the player? well, i certainly do of what is lifestyle and what is life on for lifestyle? is something you grow up, will you do? i remember watching a cartoon about, boom, killed the little polar bear d as a kid. and that's how i started to like polar bears. and the arctic, certainly later on there were this fascinating documentary is from the shockey

stows expeditions, all start one, she was the man who discovered an entire new world out there. i mean is, and he wasn't just observing it. she was sharing his findings with all of us. mm. yeah. letting us see what he saw with his own eyes. clear to me, got out of her. that's what i grew up with her and it became part of my personality and the same as happening to that people come to including in my subscribers and viewers who traveled to the articles. miss schubert, you see something there, discover new mean was and a, just your bath in this world with a new coordinates demarco also. so to understand the worlds or, or at least her, our vast country, high jobs, you really need to see it. or think of all the regions as or pieces of a puzzle that the cook, the you visit, what 5 regions you on the what, and you get 5 pieces, the pit bulls. you put them together and see a part of the picture or see got yourself look, for example, these pieces form and i knew that, but you don't see the full picture yet. you're telling you give you some knowledge from the media she has, but that's other people's opinions, not sharon,

from rolled out so you can develop your own view only based on your own experience . that's how it works. well, in the beginning, as i mentioned, the hero spark was going and initiation into manhood. makeema, which is this stuff of men of folk tales and myths in many cultures. and in you, me, it's about the path of the human cells, both individual and collective, that they, that starts off with irish thought, the searching for something important, say the world mash then finds it inside one's self tell. now when it says you either find it inside you or somewhere really close our porch, borger says sacred journey. well to one's self. so i see it. john, have spirit chill grows. but i face your washer because you have you ever had some revelations or what you felt like a miracle, anger journeys that he couldn't explain from a materialistic viewpoint. as, as i know, i've had some insights into the simple truth year that there's nothing more important than family, for example, or delivery to devote most your time to your loved ones. in the end,

every journey is away home to put them one way home. you're right sir. ashton was not happy with one sir. i actually rode all the way to the north pole. wait on my fat bike up, cyril. before that sir. i've been seeing people and in nordic countries riding their bikes and the snow restless and i wandered before the water. i took offend bike to my upcoming expedition to the north bowl. they so i rode my bike there and as i was riding alone through the arctic ocean, she hasn't missed something changed in me. why me? we all leave with endless background noise her. even if you are home, you shear clock's ticking appliances, humming song and so on. in the other, in the arctic list, i heard endless silence skinny beginning of the only sound i heard you were 1st my heart beat, which sounded like a drum beating. and 2nd elbow my inner voice by pure which started asking questions like up on the law. what are we doing here? we are so i had to explain to myself that sometimes everything was all right,

so at least this ought to correlate to enjoy equally. i goshen little you and jeff and by the silence paused absolutely eliminated bit ish. and now i see that the arctic is not only design boss to clean space or what just upper i, they show you what the gold you are. yup. no, it's also an incredible sound chambers of sidney place where you can wish a sheer yourself here in the rushing far is the machine to pull into my of lading that are seeing if a russian traveler i knew from the early 20th century martha rico was also a prolific writer, but he never had a formal education from that. his knowledge was impressive. many russian travelers of the past come were a self educated and complete thing. the age of self education is over or is it on the beginning? yes, almost all. i don't think it's over and i don't think it'll ever be over. no, you see there are 2 kinds of people that deal with those who think about doing something. absolutely. and those who actually do things your family are to do

things. he simply act on their ambition judge dislike when i 1st said that i wanted to make a film shield, but when everyone started saying it's a very complex affair that you needed team budget and all that. yeah, the sled, 7 days after i sent it to court, i was already filming, and she caught her with a crew. it was in the world i just went for, it was dill to so i had the idea in the evening, which i woke up the next morning or in a little and i did it 9 o'clock please. what can russian people do to be more like that? in their crash that thought it seems like it's part of our character. that term dog year old boy, a poor little thing of does take us a long time to get started. a new mother stamped them, then we're always tempted to rely on others that much there. when you have that someone else is going to do your work now matches then. yeah, fun factor of their ability you mentioned could do a great service to our people starting in a grown lee or we could come to realize what we're capable of pay them. but i'm sure you can agree that we have immense potential are no, except ourselves for who we are, while racine editing him are,

those will yield almost position. i think it depends on how you were raised as a wine in yarbrough. so anyway, got him a pretty wicked education is also important design and i'm not talking about academic education, learning, math and so on. formally, the live that value color. sure. when you learn culture, when you learn values you develop the desire to keep going forward to the idea to develop further even what so. so it's essentially about having a penchant for developing into an eagerness to learn latch leticia. can you have that without traveling around your country or start? i think so, just it's just the traveling is one of the simplest ways to learn new things or so . but if you want to learn something, you don't always have to run an expedition with a huge team and rides on the to the north pole and offend bike wake him as you can start by getting in your car or the little hoping on your bike and exploring the neighborhood that you'll discover lots of things go on. i'm sure that most people

haven't even been to some of the areas next to their homes in after that, you can go further and eventually come here to the russian far east. for example, 6 people usually constrain themselves to a number of routes, which i think you're talking about coming back from the virtual world to real life and separate the can. you can only know the world if you data step into uncharted territory. don't buy any more. bush long sure, no, i thought you must fall wistar by doing that soccer. good it's to been then you just look and see where it takes you. there are many rows to take a distal amused asked elsie boss linear one last question now has on all time magazine forecast mass integration. if did she within the next 50 years, guinette boss called quite a for c, hired the serious climate change in you can say go to that same erie and the oxy called the 2 places where people can hide from this braiding heat and humidity ah, cap on that property, what do you think about this whole cast of media?

is the arctic prepared to house millions of displaced people? it is to garcia and when it comes to global warming. yes, the problem does exist away. gleiss of glaciers. kirk melting with my own eyes running, i saw a place i had seen 10 years before and it looks completely different, concur that the ice level has changed visibly in silver work out in one place where you can see that it is the arctic part of your katya renewed days, many also all the islands there such as the new paul new siberian islands. what he consists of will cheaper. well sir. dirt mixed with ice if there was abuse. i don't know how it came to be, but it's essentially a mixture of dirt. the course and eyes crossville are so what's happening with these islands is that this dirt or just a lag, heaps melting away in the sun salsa. when we approach the shore, ourselves, throw out the breeze. our gps tracker sat there too. we had reached the same point we georgia where we had got off for the last time the door that there was no land

there. but just we had another 150 meters to go to visit the islands in last 150 meters of land in just 5 years ago now it's simply melted into the ocean yoke theater. this means that the water level rose accordingly caught the greenhouse effect, grew stronger, did find all kinds of other consequences are taking place in keeping. and that's just one place. or we can imagine what's happening to the planet on the global scale. shoppable changes are underway. the arctic shore is a big place to which has a greater digit potential for our country of italy's kits good. that we have now started developing the arctic and the far east. the key to you can't have such vast territories without suiting them to good use. the crew that we have, what i think is a good symbiotic relationship with the indigenous population. so some like where money companies here come to develop resources and come, but give back to the locals by building infrastructure. it allow 5 or 10 years ago are people would leave her in a lonely place. last and the snow dos with one lamp posts lighting the road to port

the brush and now they have more than houses with internet access, cafes and a t. m machines thumb was as governor angela roman abramivitch will come carried out a really impressive renovation campaign in chicago. come what carol, take whelan, which is the eastern most settlement in eurasia zillow. the place with a view of alaska. if you go there, talk of all you will see rows of need scandinavian style houses in different colors, but i won't see the end of one old, lopsided house between them that looks really run down to skin during our visit to clean we asked her if there was some one who could to give us advice on the route we had planned the will at home, and the locals directed us, sir, to the local hunter who actually lived in that house when your oil. but we asked him what a dog, why wasn't your house rebuilt? like all the others and was little. and he said, you know, when the government decided to bill display, slash,

half of the people wanted to keep their old homes in. yeah, so the government, we found ways to lew them out of town and it's sending them to health results. and so and what interested and while the people were out of town state rebuilt their houses, but the hunter refused to go anywhere. why, what's up? i'm a hunter after all, he said, what the dog is that also his house remained as it was, and now she says, my house is a monument to how unreasonable and ignorant i was. feel it when he saw the comfort so that the new houses offered. she realized that he should have allowed his home to be rebuilt to august when the new houses are really comfortable. well breakdown we have to live here, but i really appreciate your time today and wish you all the best sold, the locked in your future trial of assume. thank you for watching coke to sir again on. well, the part, ah with

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