invariably brings the protagonist bags to where it all began, cooling time and time again, that what had been searched for was already inside. this archetype pattern, now manifest itself in the steep rise in russia's domestic travel, as russians faced with visit restrictions in the west, a let to explore the reaches of their own country. thus, every journey indeed lead home. well, to discuss that i am now joined by the dan bullet sheriff, a popular travel blogger, and russia self appointed ambassador for the arctic and the forest, both at the study done. it's great to have you with us today. yeah, i'm glad we did our parts crossed the eastern economic forum businesses in previous years, all green. the former was attended by mann international guess example, next francine, subordinates. yeah. not so many. mann middle school and the number of russians in nor traveling abroad is also dwindling. on the other hand, domestic travel seems to be as arise now in russia. imagining that in many

a touring the country, even though can you think it's because they have no choice or is there really a lot of interesting things to see in russia? shasta lum principal simple michael bruce thought i believe it's what they call the silver lining lacrosse tournament. i think it was difficult for people to view russia as a place to explore syria, mainly because international destinations clearly had services of much better quality to offer to the east. and they were easier to get to just stay and you're all set up. all of those a cheer, russia was really behind in terms of tourist infrastructure and quality of service, a political music now that people have started traveling around russia or so i'm really happy to see that so many and now discovering that there's so much more to it than they salt lake by cow, girls is not the only destination or the east it up of this for you so much more beyond that so that in fact crossly, our stress, which is located near by cow,

it is right in the middle of russia halfway between its western most when you mind eastern mosul, point source gmc, i feel great. a see my subscribers exploring the article go and the russian far east with their unique echo systems. and there's a lot to see there to me and what's important, just gimme, it's also a lot cheaper to visit on compared to well established tourist destinations. surely what i'll see also we're developing transportation networks here. so somebody leading russian air carrier runs regular flights from moscow to most destinations, and the russian far east will cause to the airfare to day score compared to say 5 or 10 years ago. we so much more affordable years to someone to the us national sales such us a you've certainly got a bullet on bed, leslie of miles up at near boise miller. not wait until you're saying it's about comfort. come for solitude, service and affordability. is there anything else, or is this the recipe for a good trip? wasn't it at the?

well, generally this is the recipe. and the yes, you're welcome to go. now we're talking about tourism. so it, naturally tourism means travel, 1st and foremost. so it isn't worth of transportation is certainly important and whatnot. but comfort also matters for natal, whichever exotic destination you may choose to explore you whether it's scape destiny of her with a view of alaska, where just only 4 kilometers separate russia from america was club or c came to loose skin was a polar bears them all wrangle islands will skin us, you always want to return to safety and comfort law after experiencing extreme conditions for parents than he wanted right there. and then, so let me give you an example him, if we were shooting a documentary recently in chicago. campbell, the when i was directing it, we spent a month there in total, mitchell and in that climate tickets we were cold and went all the time. every day . i have no idea how or equipment kept working. seems like a miracle to me,

shares and coming back to dry, warm place sir, after a day's work was fantastic and more. you could take off your wet clothes and take a hot shower, change into something, try and be ready to go out again. you bet. you're a professional traveler when he does matches, you enjoy it. it's also what you do for a living. i love the shows and i sure do them. we as there, if i understand it correctly, they are trying to visit some of the less popular locations she in metro. i don't think that's right. or we try to direct our travelers to new destinations on what language i can give you. a great example of this year, we reached the northern most pointer on the continent in the russian far easily port is called on with ox. the cape it's anita katia when we saw the place is incredibly beautiful, like a huge rock on the godaddy accounts into the arctic ocean. almost like an ice breaker at the sand is the northernmost point in the russian far east. miss steely, we published our records on both russian and a chinese social media. mix it and got millions of views. miliano bras are some

chinese tour agencies approached us keep asking to organize a trip for them door so they could seize and assess it or as a potential destination for chinese tourists on guard. those are this year we are going there with 7 asians, the delegations from china. we as well as a t v. crew representing china's top tv channel to film at feel law. we have a tour planned out for them. most of our that will include the box, the keep her name as well as the timer peninsula, to showcase everything including siberia in russian far east and the arctic heal sub. so this way we are creating a product both for russian and national tourists. lloyd lane could easter or do they seem like i said, i thought that as a popular belief, he beach in russia especially as young are that dog hearing, say, milan acquainted, milan boys a lot cooler in more comfortable account or one more accessible of one month than 2 in moments clear to the point that many ration tra there's so as

a means to just have travel the world yet law, while their own country remains an uncharted territory for them. look with you just mentioned the trash already has. places that can offer supposed quality experiences . i. so as i, i wonder if russia has something, no other place has what she am i now with my only tougher nor usually go into a 12 shift so on. well, you know, i say the most unforgettable experience is in meeting people, but you can find good and bad people everywhere last year. but in the north or in the arctic, they are as authentic as it gets. here we were making a film about an old whale hunter whose ancestors our hunted wales for 7 or 8 generations. we on tom was we were following him everywhere. and what day and day out. and one day, when we came to his home home on his grandson of around 20 years, opened the door. we said, do we came to film his grandfather to which he replied that his grandfather was having a meal with the guards on the great we're sad when can we start my go. as soon as

he is done shock that he said to us down and shut the door, i don't go to look out for cuz he wasn't trying to offend us. it was just that simple for him just once his grandma was finished with what we could do our field, then he would have shot. that's how they go about everything in life. of simple and sincere, regarded, let's have very rare, qualitative find he should come on was to lunch. when it comes to natural attractions, we have everything we could wish war just like one great place. i recommend to every one these days. and i believe it's going to be super popular soon, or they are both was domestic and international tourists are going, he wants the border restrictions are lifted over. is the southern and northern curial islands receivable, equity with this place is mind bending while dash is like quick finding yourself on the saddle of a jurassic park movie or something like that. you brought, it feels almost like iceland or you, lo, fulton, norway, or store or some other places. and you realize you can get at all these unique experiences cross all at once. and in one place several here in russia. still

almost martinez. i believe i'm not mistaken. it was dusty ascii, who said that russia includes everything and the entire were absolutely it does. and the chest that i see is parts of russia the far east and the arctic family explored. by traveling enthusiasts and estates didn't contribute much to that quest . validate to has mostly private initiatives. i've always admired how deeply these people cared for the wildlife in those parts. missy and for the local population, correct me if i'm wrong, that as far as i know i, she can either the russian empire or the soviet union or the russian federation. i never tried to enforce russian culture and language and indigenous people coach to bring civilization to them. so to say, even though what have you seen in your travels, why not? i just heard a bullet, the excursion, the key and well they to go. there have been some near bullets, call them necessary improvements introduced there on the board lakes education, for example. you much thought in some places religious missions were established.

if so, it's true that russia has never tried to uproot all many local traditions, furnish lifestyles, or culture coin you would see today. you can visit a small distant settlement, sir. so let me give you an example to skip her, throw out even because when we visited the noa, severe sc islands financially or la cardenas. so we met a crafts woman there, so it makes diskin footwear on being the double side that craft has been passed down to her through 4 generations of her ancestors than you might sir. e, colonel, great grandmother. gotcha. they made the same kind of boots with exactly the same design of torn luke russian explorer lewisville baron from tall and he is so old. rich perdition anchor was stopped at the novice abuse islands as these searched for the legendary sandy cough land in the early 20th century. and now i can say that i own a pair of deer skin boots order bye into killed. says those are the 2 made for barons

from tall, this port for those out of the hand. well they're still available. i did see that this is a tradition that has been preserved for generations. the key task today is to help indigenous people maintain these traditions. got out of shop by yet we were making a film about a whale hunter, and those are one and a very long line of whale hunters in any frequent land. you know, people like me and you that which we don't have that kind of self identity that he has always thought doing what his ancestors had been doing. instict since the 11th century, your cable pref. sure. and she is a wearing modern gear and striving and modern loads altima, but she is a whale hunter. ogden wasn't badly done support in the traditional lifestyles at the local. my language is really spoken by small groups of people is pretty expensive for any state. it kills law, can't argue with that, it's much easier to create reservations for them is it was not necessary

reservation. so you can just have these people assimilation or exam. that's what i meant when i said reservations for branley yesterday, but it is graded in russia. we have stayed support programs for synch indigenous peoples and sheer of the forum. i saw a lot of ethnic minorities involved color. there was a house of indigenous people at the far east st exhibition. know also, russia will be presiding over the arctic councils or for the next 2 years. and that sir, it will a significant city. also, we actually ran a number of expeditions since a portal to programs like these channels in a deal. and now, is it all done for promotion? so we could have an exhibition of local tradition special. why do you think cause that for a big cation with imperial ambitions was manny see here, what's the point of investing in ethnic minorities? let me explain this live up there, political. what would i came to the arctic 10 years ago? what i thought that all people living there are the same surgeon,

i call it. but tommy on it 1st. all that's what i saw will do, but later i realized that was not the case. and you said you had some, even reindeer breeders are all different in the event, right? the reindeer to t of the heard, let's get in your denial of a put a cheat, follow the free roaming, heard back about and if sierra's needs, if i can give lots of examples, they're all different. it's not old massage. some ethnic groups could have under a 1000 people just like the u copiers of blood, but each has its own remarkable history and culture units. and they are all parts of our great country level. and when you see these indigenous peoples called because you realize how great all russia really ease with his reach and versatile culture, evolved identity. got said, this is incredible. all been done. we have to take a short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments. say chant, ah, ah

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ah ah ah ah welcome back to one of the parts this russian traveler. i'm down the bullet shop . i'm microcosm before the break. we were talking about diversity in russia as yet i see just today the world is engaged in an active discussion about the world order and different perspectives on life. i need to call texas, i know the war and ukraine is part of their discussion with gaster definitely was linear pro diversity doesn't require them bytes. but,

and this is really shoes in your video, just which 3rd 2nd that was put in your films. you do not seem like so why from so to say the evolved world. big brother is a person from a different place is health is both true to himself and tries not to change others . when your opinion, how can we make the world except it's diversity? no, again, you are jania at the moment ago, but i felt less heated. well, it's all relative. why not? there's one trash is another man's treasure. all political different people can have different opinions, self one and the same thing support. so it what we need to respect all views and at the same time from allow people's right for longer law, self expression will chair to the all it i believe that russia is also very good at it. actually that there's room for a groove and sure, but in general we don't force anybody to give up their identity or what for plenty in terms of ethnicity, traditions or religion, or when it illegal people enjoy these freedoms and russia on less than that. and i

think that's great. okay, so when 3 a scale you once said in an interview, that's if you had a chance to choose how join senior expeditions it's be, has of the arctic states. what gap on crushed into what they learned, saying it on the old ships and our law, the lab. but she's not so much about learning. look, a communion won't, would be good for them to see how people leave inside the arctic circle because it changes you when you see people who don't have any social crutches to lean on, is that it when you can, your thought. if a person owns a snowmobile here, quitting, it's not for having fun with your friends. surgery, the weekends cuddly burnett portfolio. i at that at the hostile they use it to get food with water and other supplies. still draw. it's their lifeline. it the reason? yes, lima quit. what if people have no need for a social tool or a gadget? nice. they don't use them. fortune interior people there. don't get distracted by all the social bars and noise doesn't have all that information suggested to us

like numb with all the ads closing as to why the newest smartphone mode or something for the la let in here. sure. so people often pursued these kind of things goodness of thumb, but not there. you can sit in the family, no themes and the satellite with this comes down. she exits an existential question that we all can relate to. what is life and what is the meaning of it? what? what is freedom less through? now i saw snow. how your travels influenced your wealthiest. think i do you feel change to the play or will i certainly do of what is lifestyle and what is life on for lifestyle? is something you grow up, will read all i remember watching a cartoon about whom curled the little polar. bear me d as a kid and that's how i started to like polar bears and the arctic, certainly later. and there were this fascinating documentary is from jackie's, christos expeditions austin, one she was the man who discovered an entire new world out there. i mean is, and he wasn't just observing it. she was sharing his findings with all of us. mm.

yeah. letting us see what he saw with his own eyes, clear to me, got out of her. that's when i grew up with her and it became part of my personality and the same as happening to that people are going to including in my subscribers and viewers who traveled to the arctic. miss schubert, you see something there, discover new mean was and a just your bath in this world with a new coordinates demoss. they also try to understand the worlds or, or at least her, our vast country, high jobs. you really need to see it, or think of all the regions as or pieces of a puzzle that the cook, the, you visit, what? 5 regions you on the what, and you get 5 meters to built bottles. you put them together and see a part of the picture or secretarial look, for example, these pieces form and i knew that, but you don't see the full picture yet. your tale, you get some knowledge from the media she has, but that's other people's opinions, not sharon, from wrote out so you can develop your own view only based on your own experience.

that's how it works. you know, in the beginning, as i mentioned, the hero spark was going and initiation into manhood. makeema, which is the staff of men of folk tales and myths. in many cultures. i'm in me, it's about the path of the human cell, both individual and collective, that they, that starts off with irish thought, the searching for something important, say the world to mash, that then finds it inside one's self tell. now, when it says you either find it inside you, or somewhere really close up, would bongo says sacred johnny bell to lunch self? spicy to join? a spirit chill, grace. but i say she washer whichever you ever had some revelations or what you felt like a miracle. anger journeys that he couldn't explain from a materialistic viewpoint. as, as i know, i've had some insights into the simple truth year that there's nothing more important than family, for example, or delivery to devote most of your time to your loved ones. in the end, every journey is away home to put them away home you're right. ashton was not happy

with one sir? correct? i actually rode all the way to the north pole. wait on my fat bike up cyril. before that sir. i've been seeing people and in nordic countries riding their bikes and the snow, there is less. and i wondered, but for the one i took offend bike to my upcoming expedition to the north bowl. and they, so i rode my bike there. and as i was riding alone through the arctics of, since his name is something changed in me, why me? we all leave with endless background noise her even if you are home. you shear clock's ticking appliances, humming song, and so on. in the other in the arctic list, i heard endless silence skinnier beginning of the only sound i heard you were 1st my heart beat, which sounded like a drum beating and seconds here, but my inner voice square pure which started asking questions like up on the law what are we doing here here so i had to explain to myself that so bumps everything was. all right, so at least this or to criminal to enjoy equally. i goshen little you and jeff and by the silence paused absolutely eliminated bit ish. and now i see that the arctic

is not only designed vast, the clean space that will just oper i, they show you what the gold you are. yup. no, it's also incredible. sound chambers have seen a place where you can wish a sheer yourself here in the rushing far is your machine to pull it might have led in that are seeing if a rushing traveler or in your, from the early 20th century, martha rico was also a prolific writer, but he never had a former education so that his knowledge was impressive. many russian travellers of the mars i'm, we're a self educated us and complete thing. the age of self education is over or is at home the beginning. yes, almost thought, well, i don't think it's over and i don't think it'll ever be over. ah, you see there are 2 kinds of people that deal with those who think about doing something else losing and those who actually do things or some little are those who do things you simply act on their ambition. yeah. which is like when i 1st said that i wanted to make a film, she'll fix when everyone started saying it's

a very complex affair that you needed team budget and all that. yeah, the stud 7 days after i said it's a quote i was already filming. and she caught her with a crew. it was in the world, i just went for, it was deal to. so i have the idea in the evening and i woke up the next morning or in a little and i did it. now. i cut please. what can russian people do to be more like that in their crash that thought it seems like it's part of our character that term dog year old boy. that called a little thing of does take us a long time to get started. a new mother still dumped out of and we're always tempted to rely on others that much there when you have that someone else is going to do your work law matches than your phone factors. but the ability you mentioned, could do a great service to our people starting in a grown lee, or we could come to realize what we're capable of pay them. but i'm sure you can agree that we have immense potential are no, except ourselves for who we are, while racine editing him. are those real dumas position? why? i think it depends on how you were raised as a wine in yarbrough. so anyway,

got him a pretty were clarification, is also important though and, and i'm not talking about academic education, learning math and so on. formally declared value. though. sure. when you learn culture, when you learn values you develop the desire to keep going forward to the idea to develop further even what so. so it's essentially about having a penchant for developing the issue and eagerness to learn much to be sure. can you have that is are traveling around your country hosted, i think so just it's just the traveling is one of the simplest ways to learn new things or so. but if you want to learn something, you don't always have to run an expedition with a huge team and rides on the to the north pole and offend bike wake him as you can start by getting in your car or a little hoping on your bike and exploring the neighborhood that you'll discover lots of things go on. i'm sure that most people haven't even been to some of the areas next to their homes in after that you can go further and eventually come here

to the russian forest. for example, 6 people usually constrain themselves to a number of routes, which i think you're talking about coming back from the virtual world to real life and separate the can. you can only know the world if your data stepped into uncharted territory. don't buy any more bills long. sure, no, but you must fall wistar by doing that soccer. good. it's to been then you just look and see where it takes you. there are many roads to take. a distal o me is asked us at bus linear one last question now has on all time magazine forecast mass integration. if did she within the next 50 years, guinette bicycle got a for c, hired the serious climate change in you can say good about that samira and the arctic held that the 2 places where people can hide from this braiding heat and humidity ah, cap on that property, what do you think about this whole cast of media is the arctic prepared to house millions of displaced p colleges to garcia when it comes to global warming?

the it's the problem does exist to my eagle eye. so glaciers, kirk, melting with my own eyes running, i saw a place i had seen 10 years before and it looks completely different, concur that the ice level has changed visibly. and so little go cut in one place where you can see that it is the arctic part of your katya. we knew days menial, so all the islands there, such as the new paul new siberian islands. what he consists of would cheaper. well sir. dirt mixed with eyes if there was abuse. i don't know how it seems to be, but it's essentially a mixture happening over dirt the course and eyes postal. so what's happening with these islands? is that this dirt or just the lag, heaps melting away in the sun salsa when we approach the shore or south, throw out the breeze, our gps tracker, sand there too. we had reached the same point. we joked where we had got off for the last time the lot. there was no land there, but if we had another 115 meters to go stiffness of the islands in last 150 meters

of land in just 5 years ago. now it's simply melted into the ocean, the update, but this means that the water level rose accordingly caught the greenhouse effect, grew stronger. we did find all kinds of other consequences or taking place in a keeper. he and that's just one place, or we can imagine what's happening to the planet on the global scale. shoppable changes are underway in dallas. the arctic shore is a big blazer which has a greater digit potential for our country of it alone. it gets good that we have now started developing the arctic and the far east, the key to you can't have such vast territories without putting them to good use. he took the girl that we have. what i think is a good symbiotic relationship with the indigenous population. so summary where money companies are come to develop resources and come, but give back to the locals by building infrastructure it around 5 or 10 years ago . our people would leave her in a lonely place. last and the snow thought with one lamp posts lighting the road to port the brush and now they have more than houses with internet access, cafes and

a t. m. machines, thumb mark as governor la roman abramivitch will come carried out a really impressive renovation campaign in chicago camp. what care might take whelan, which is the eastern most settlement in eurasia zillow, the place with a view of alaska. if you go that oak of all you will see rows of neat scandinavian style houses in different colors garbled. see the end of one, all the lopsided house between them that looks really run down at it. and during our visit to clean, we asked her if there was some one who could to give us advice on the route we had planned the will at home, and the locals directed us, sir, to the local hunter who actually lived in that house when your oil we asked him what a dog, why wasn't your house rebuilt? like all the others, little and he said, you know, when the government decided to rebuild this place, slash half of the people wanted to keep their old homes writing. yeah. so the government, we found ways to lew them out of town and it's sending them to health results and

so on. what interested? and while the people were out of town state rebuilt their houses, but the hunter refused to go anywhere. why, what's up? i'm a hunter after all, he said, the dog is that also his house remained as it was, and now he says, my house is a monument to how unreasonable and ignorant i was villette, when he saw the comfort, saw that the new houses offered. she realized that he should have allowed his home to be rebuilt to all dogs. when the new houses are really comfortable. fumbling down. we have to live here, but i really appreciate your time today and wish you all the best soul, the locked in your future trial. of this year. thank you for watching hope this year again on well, the part ah with

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