saw the president of senegal, he said, we call for a cessation of hostilities in ukraine. the world must act together. and just a few moments from now, the turkish president will be taking the podium and our life coverage will continue . when that happens ah, ah. with ton welcome to well, the price here is journey. one of the most recurrent mythological themes of human history invariably brings the protagonist back to where the old began, proving time and time again. that what had been searched for was already inside

this archetype of pattern. now manifests itself in the steep rise in russia's domestic travel, as russians faced with visit restrictions in the west left to explore the reaches of their own country as every journey indeed leave home. well, to discuss that, i'm now joined by bugs on bulletproof and popular travel blogger and russia's self appointed ambassador for the arctic and the forest. by the study done, it's great to have you with us today. yeah, i'm glad that i was paul's crossed the eastern economic forum and businesses in previous years. all green. the former was attended been man international guest example. next few subordinates. yeah. not so many. mann middle school and the number of russians in, nor traveling abroad is also gwendolyn. and the other hand, domestic travel seems to be on the rise. now, in russia, i'm actually in many a touring the country even though you think good because they have no choice or is

there really a lot of interesting things to see in russia? shesta number, for instance, him for michael bruce thought i believe it's what they call the silver lining little approach to the women. i think it was difficult for people to view russia. that is a place to explore a series, mainly because international destinations clearly had services are much better quality to offer good east and they were easier to get to us was just bay and you're all set below the chair. russia was really behind lie in terms of tourist infrastructure and quality of service applicants now that people have started traveling around russia or so i'm really happy to see that for many. and now discovering that there's so much more to it than they thought about it late by carl girl is not the only destination here or in the east it up or this for ya. so much more beyond there to madison. that in fact, crossly are scarcely which is located near by cow. it is right in the middle of russia halfway between its western, most when you mind eastern mosul,

point source cham so i feel great a, see my subscribers exploring the article go. and the russian far east with their unique echo systems and there's a lot to see there to me and what's important, just gimme, it's also a lot cheaper to visit on compared to well established tourist destinations. surely what i'll see also we're developing transportation networks here. so some like a leading russian air carrier runs regular flights from moscow to most destinations . and the russian far east will cause to the airfare to day squaw compared to say 5 or 10 years ago. we so much more affordable years to some way to the us national sale. my such us a you certainly got a little bullet on bed, leslie of nas others near boise. maria, not what late deal you're saying? it's about comfort. come for sandwiches, service, sand and affordability. is there anything else, or is this the recipe for a good trip? wasn't it yet? the bulk generally? well, this is the recipe. and yes,

you're welcome to go. now we're talking about tourism. so it naturally tourism means travel, 1st and foremost. so it isn't that of transportation is certainly important, but as much comfort also matters for natal, whichever exotic destination may choose to explore new other escape destiny of her with a view of alaska were just only 4 kilometers, separate russia from america, scope or sea cape, shallow skin with a polar bears them all wrangle islands will skin us. you always want to return to safety and comfort law after experiencing extreme conditions for parents than you wanted right there. and then, so let me give you an example. here we were shooting a documentary recently in chicago camp. i live and i was directing it or we spent a month there in total, mitchell and in that climate tickets we were pa, cold and went all the time. every day. i have no idea how or equipment kept working . it seemed like a miracle to me, shares and coming back to dry warm plays, sir, after

a day's work was fantastic and more. you could take off your wet clothes and take a hot shower, change into something, try and be ready to go out again. but you are a professional traveller. we need as much as you enjoy it. it's also what you do for a living la bushes, and i sure do we is that if i understand it correctly, you're trying to visit some of the less popular locations me in my through i don't think that's right. or we try to direct our travelers to new destinations on what they're doing. i can give you a great example of this year. we reached the northernmost pointer on the continent in the russian far easily core is called on with ox, the cape. returning your katia, when we saw the places incredibly beautiful, like a huge rock on the credit accounts into the arctic ocean, almost like an ice breaker at the sand is the northernmost point in the russian far east of miss steely, we published our reports on both the russian and chinese social media mix it and got millions of views. miliano bras are some chinese tour agencies approached us keep asking to organize a trip for them will dar,

so they could seize and assess it or as a potential destination for chinese tourists is what i'm going to have this year. we're going there with 7 asians delegation from china. we as well as a t v. crew representing china's top tv channels, sil meds, few oh, we have a tour planned out for them. most of us are that will include the box, the keep her name as well. as the timer peninsula to showcase everything including siberia, russian far east, and the arctic heels of so this way we are creating a product both for russian and national tourists. lloyd lane could easter or do they seem like i said, i thought share that as a popular belief. he beach in russia especially as young as that dog who ring same line going to milan boys a lot cooler and more comfortable, accountable, or more accessible. o, one month than 2 in moments clear to the point that many rational travellers was the means you should have traveled the world yet little while their own country remains an uncharted territory for them. what with you just mentioned,

the trash already has places that can offer support the wallet experience. as i sal ever, i wonder if russia has something, no other place has what she am i now with my any tougher, nor usually go into a 12 shift. so on, well, you know, i say the most unforgettable experience is in meeting people, but you can find good and bad people everywhere. let's hear about in the north or in the arctic. they are as authentic as it gets here we were making a film about an old whale hunter whose ancestors are hunted whales for 7 or 8 generations. we on tom was we were following him everywhere. and what day and day out and one day when we came to his home of his grandson of around 20 years, opened the door. we said to we came to film his grandfather to which he replied that his grandfather was having a meal, and the goddess hunger rate was sad. when can we start margaret? as soon as he has done shock that he said to us down and shut the door, i don't get it knocked for cuz she wasn't trying to offend us. it was just that

simple for him off the court. once his grandma was finished from what we could do our field, then he would have shot. that's how they go about everything in life. of simple and sincere, regarded, let's have very rare policy to find. he should from almost as much thought as comes to natural attractions. we have everything we could wish war is like one great place or recommend to every one these days. and i believe it's going to be super popular soon, or state, or both was domestic and international tourists. again, he wants to live border restrictions are lifted over. is the southern and northern curial islands receivable equity with this place is mind bending while dash is like quote the finding yourself on the saddle of a jurassic park movie or something like that. you will cross the trills almost like iceland or you low foot in norway or store or some other places. and you realize you can get it all these unique experiences. crossover quite all at once. and in one place, sagal here in russia to or last month because they believe i'm not mistaken. it was

dusty ascii, who said that russia includes everything in the entire. absolutely, it does. and the chests that i see is parts of russia the far east and the arctic samo explored. by traveling enthusiasts and estate didn't contribute much to that quest valar. it was mostly private initiatives that have always admired how deeply these people cared for the wild life in those parts on the ceilings for the local population. correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as i know i, she can either the russian empire or the soviet union or the russian federation. i said it tried to enforce russian culture and language and indigenous people coach to bring civilization to them. so to say, you know, what have you seen in your travels were way not a gesture, bullet the excuse on the key. i knew well neither got there have been some near bullets, call them necessary improvements. introduce their or the board like education for example. you much thought someplace as religious missions were established, but it's true that russia has never tried to approved all any local traditions when

you lie styles or culture. quine, which today you can visit a small distant settlement, sir, let me give you an example. just give us throw up even when we visited the numbers . miss skyland, strangely, amal, guardian, of so we met a crafts woman there. so either makes deer, skin footwear, or b double sign that craft has been passed down to her through 4 generations of her ancestors than you might sir. e, colonel great grandmother. fortunately, they made the same kind of boots with exactly the same design or dollar russian explorer. lewis barren from tall and he's all are expedition and you got stopped at the novice abuse islands as these searched for the legendary sandy cough land in the early 20th century. and now i can say that i own a pair of deer skin boots sort of identical to those that are made for baron from tall sport bottles out of her hand. well,

they're still available. i did see cuz this is a tradition that has been preserved for generations. the key tasks a day that she's to help indigenous people maintain these traditions. sort of shocked by yet we were making a film about a whale hunter, and those are one and a very long line of whale hunters and any of complained you know, people like me and you, but which we don't have that kind of self identity that he has always thought doing what his ancestors had been doing, been strict since the 11th century, near cable pref, sure, a. he is a wearing modern gear and striving and modern rhodes altima. but she is a whale hunter logged on to want a bet. but dan, support in the traditional lifestyles at the local languages, spoken by small groups of people, is pretty expensive for any state. it kills law can't argue with that, it's much easier to create reservations for them. it was not necessary reservation, so you can just have these people,

assimilation exists. what i meant when i said reservations to burn the yesterday what it is graded and russia. we have stayed support programs for such indigenous peoples and shear of the forum. i saw a lot of ethnic minorities and all hi kalauia. there was a house of indigenous people are at the far east street exhibition. no. also russia will be presiding over the arctic councils for the next 2 years. it and that, sir, it will a significant studios. we actually ran a number of expeditions in support of to programs like leaves and losing a deal. and now is it all done for promotion? so we could have an exhibition of local traditions for why do you think because that for a big nation with imperial ambitions was manny see here, what's the point of invest in ethnic minorities? let me explain this little of up there political. what would i came to the arctic 10 years ago? what i thought that old people living there are the same said to luckily, bottom young at 1st. that's what i saw or do. but later i realized that was not the

case. and you said you had some, even reindeer breeders are all different, the events, right? the reindeer to steer the hurdle, scaling all the novel of a police shoot cheap, follow the free roaming heard about. and if seriously, if i can give lots of examples, they're all different. if not all of them are some ethnic groups could have under a 1000 people just like the u cargurus blood, but each has its own remarkable history and culture units. and they are all parts of our great country level. and when you see these indigenous peoples called because you realize how great on russia really ease with its reach and versatile culture, evolved identity. say, this is incredible. well, why don't we have to take a short break right now, but we will be back in just a few moments say chant. ah, he's got to do is identify the threats that we have

a tree that even foundation let it be an arms race. his on offense, very dramatic development only personally and getting to disease. i don't see how that strata will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk with . mm hm. welcome back to one of the part smith at russian traveler. i'm going down the bullet shop by then way look across before the break and we were talking about diversity in russia has yet i see just today the world is engaged in inactive discussion about the world order and different perspectives on life. i each called texas, i know the war and ukraine is part of their discussion book. a cluster definitely

was welling yet her diversity doesn't require them bytes but, and this is really shoes in your video. just much died. secondly, was put in your films yet, but did not seem like so. why from so to say the evolve, dwelt big brothers. a person from a different place is health is both true to himself and tries not to change others source to when your opinion, how can we make the world except as diversity? no, again, you are jania. i got there at the moment ago, but i shot my citizen. well, it's all relative. let it look. there's one man's trash is another man's treasure, clerical, different people can have different opinions, self one, and the same thing support. so he will, we need to respect all views and at the same time from allow peoples right for longer law, self expression will chest the all it's, i believe that russia is also very good at. it actually will not lose room for a groove and sure, but okay, general, we don't force anybody to give up their identity or for one year in terms of

ethnicity, traditions or religion, or when it illegal people enjoy these freedoms and russia. unless that on the and i think that's great. okay, so $13.00, a scale you once said in an interview with that. so if you had a chance to choose how ceiling yard expeditions it's be has of the arctic states won't come, crashed at what can they learn saying it on the old ship from our northern the lab . but she'll, it's not so much about learning. look a communion more, it would be good for them to see how people leave inside the arctic circle because it changes you when you see people who don't have any social crutches to lean on a venture when you can. your thought. if a person owns a snowmobile here, quitting, it's not for having fun with your friends. surgery, the weekends couldn't burnett portfolio. i at that there was still they use it to get food with water and other supplies. you draw, it's their lifeline. it the reason? yes, lima, quit the what if people have no need for a social tool or a gadget?

nice. they don't use them. fortune interiors, people there don't get distracted by all the social bars and noise doesn't have all that information suggested to us like numb with all the ads coastal urging us to buy the newest smartphone mode or something for la la, la, let in here. sure. so people often pursued these kind of things, goodness of them, but not there. you can sit in the some dinner themes and the satellite, which this comes down. she exists an existential question that we all can relate to . what is life and what is the meaning of it? what is freedom that's true now? sure. softly how your travels influenced your wealthier to think of? do you feel change into play or will i certainly do of what is lifestyle and what is life on for lifestyle? is something you grow up will read all i remember watching a cartoon about because the little polar bear me the as a kid. and that's how i started to like polar bears and the arctic, certainly later. and there were this fascinating documentary is from the shockey, christos expeditions austin, one,

she was the man who discovered an entire new world out there. i mean is, and he wasn't just observing it. she was sharing his findings with all of us. mm. yeah. letting us see what he saw with his own eyes, flir jamica thought about, that's what i grew up with her and it became part of my personality at him. and the same as happening to that people i come to including in my subscribers and viewers who traveled to the articles. miss schubert, you see something there, discover new mean was and a, just your bath in this world with a new coordinates tomorrow. they also are to understand the worlds or, or at least her, our vast country, high jobs. you really need to see it. or think of all the regions as or pieces of a puzzle that the cook, the, you visit with 5 regions. you on the what and you get 5 pieces, the bit bowls, you put them together and see a part of the picture or see got yourself look, for example, these pieces form an eye exam, but you don't see the full picture yet. you're telling you give you some knowledge from the media she has, but that's other people's opinions, not sharon,

from rolled out so you can develop your own view only based on your own experiences . that's how it works. well, in the beginning, as i mentioned, the hero spar more squint and initiation into manhood. my team on which is the staff of men of folk tales and myths in many cultures. i'm in me, isabel, the path of the human sales, both individual and collective and that they, that starts off with i started searching for something important say the world to my she then finds it inside one's self tell. now when it says you either find it inside you or somewhere really close our porch, boerger says sacred journey, a bell to one's self. so i see the john have spirit chill grows. but i think your washer, but you have you ever had some revelations or what you felt like a miracle? anger, journeys that he couldn't exclaim from a materialistic viewpoint. as, as i know, i've had some insights into the simple truth year that there's nothing more important than family, for example, or delivery to devote most of your time to your loved ones. in the end,

every journey is away home to put them away home you're right. ashton was not happy with one sir. correct? i actually rode all the way to the north pole by on my fat bike up soon before that sir. i've been seeing people and in countries riding their bikes and the snow verizon's and i wondered what for what i took offend bike to my upcoming expedition to the north bull kobe. so i rode my bike there and as i was riding alone through the arctic ocean, she hasn't missed something changed in me. why me? we all leave with endless background noise her. even if you are home, you shear clock's ticking appliances, humming song and so on. in the uh, like in the arctic list i heard endless silence skinnier. would you like to see the only sound i heard you were 1st my heart beat which sounded like a drum beating. and 2nd elbow, my inner voice screw, peter, which started asking questions like up on the law, what are we doing here? we are. so i had to explain to myself that sometimes everything was all right,

so at least this what the criminal to enjoy equally. i goshen little un deaf and by the silence of course you absolutely eliminated bit issue. and now i see that the arctic is not only design brass to clean space or just upper i. they show you what the gold you are. yup. no. it's also an incredible sound chamber of sidney police where you can, which a sheer yourself here the, the rushing far is interchangeable. it might have led in that are seeing if a russian traveler i knew from the early 20th century mother. michael was also a prolific writer. but he never had a formal education from that. his knowledge was impressive. many russian travelers of the past come were a self educated edison can do you think the age of south education is over, or is it on the beginning yard? almost thought, well, i don't think it's over and i don't think it'll ever be over. no, you see there are 2 kinds of people that deal with those who think about doing something. absolutely. and those who actually do things in our family are those who do things you simply act on their ambition. yeah. which is like when i 1st said

that i wanted to make a film shelter when everyone started saying it's a very complex affair that you needed. team budget and all that. yeah. the sled, 7 days after i said it quote, i was already filming, and she caught her with a crew that was annoyed. i just went for it was dill to salt. i had the idea in the evening, which i woke up the next morning or annual, and i did it 9 o'clock please. what can russian people do to be more like that in their crash that thought it seems like it's part of our character. that term dog year old boy. i called a little young. it does take us a long time to get started. a new mother still dumped them and we're always tempted to rely on others that much there. when you have that someone else is going to do your work, no matches. any fun factor of their ability you mentioned could do a great service to our people starting in a grown lee, or we could come to realize what we are capable of not pay them. but i'm sure you can agree that we have immense potential are no, except ourselves for who we are,

while racine exiting him are those will yield almost position. why? i think it depends on how you were raised the wine in yarbrough. so any got him up pretty quickly, education is also important line and i'm not talking about academic education, learning math and so on. formally the lithograph color. sure. when you learn culture, when you learn values you develop the desire to keep going forward to the idea to develop further eam quote so. so it's essentially about having a penchant for developing me to an eagerness to learn much leticia. can you have that without traveling around your country or start? i think so, just it's just the traveling is one of the simplest ways to learn new things or so . but if you want to learn something, you don't always have to run an expedition with a huge team and rides on the to the north pole and offend bike wake unless you can stop by getting in your car already hoping on your bike and exploring the neighborhood that you'll discover lots of things go on. i'm sure that most people haven't even been to some of the areas next to their homes in after that you can go

further and eventually come here to the russian far east. for example, 6 people usually constrain themselves to a number of routes. well, i think you're talking about coming back from the virtual well to re ally france, i bet they can. we can only know the well, if you data step into uncharted territory, don't buy any more bills long. sure. no. but you must always start by doing that soccer. good. it's to been then you just look and see where it takes you. there are many roads to take. a distal amused asked elsie bus linear one last question now has on all time magazine forecasts mass integration if did show, then the next 50 years is dynette. bicycle got a for c, hired the serious climate change in you can say go to that same erie and the arctic held that the 2 places where people can hide from the spreading heat and humidity ah, cap on that problem. what do you think about this whole cast of media is the arctic

prepared to house millions of displaced people? it just took awesome when it comes to global warming the it, the problem does exist to way gleiss of glaciers got melting with my own eyes. when i saw a place i had seen 10 years before and it looks completely different, concur that the ice level has changed visibly. and silverware cavity one place where you can see that it is the arctic part of your katya renewed days. many also all the islands there, such as the new port new siberian islands, but he consists of 40 for well sergio. dirt mixed with ice throw on there was abuse . i don't know how it came to be, but it's essentially a mixture of dirt the course and eyes postal. ok. so what's happening with these islands? is that this dirt or just a lag, that heaps melting away in the sun salsa. when we approach the shore ourselves, throw out the breeze. our gps tracker sat there too. we had reached the same point we georgia where we had got off for last time and all that there was no land there,

which is the we had another 115 meters to go stiffness of the islands in last 150 meters of land in just 5 years. yeah, now it's simply melted into the ocean yoke thing, but this means that the water level rose accordingly. the greenhouse acids grew stronger to try and all kinds of other consequences are taking place in keeping. and that's just one place, or we can imagine what's happening to the planet on the global scale. shoppable changes are underway. the arctic sure is a big blazer, which has a greater digit potential for our country village kids good that we have now started developing the arctic and the far east. the key to you can't have such vast territories without putting them to good use. he took the girl that we have what i think is a good symbiotic relationship with the indigenous population. so somewhere where money company is here to come to develop resources and come, but give back to the locals by building infrastructure. it allow 5 or 10 years ago are people would leave, are in a lonely place, lost in the snow,

with one lamp posts lighting the road to port the brush. and now they have more than houses with internet access, cafes and 80 m machines as governor la roman abramivitch will come carried out a really impressive renovation campaign in chicago. come what carol, take whelan, which is the eastern most settlement in eurasia villa, a place with a view of alaska. if you go that oak of all you will see rows of needs, scandinavian style houses in different colors, but i won't see the end of one old, lopsided house between them that looks really run down to scan during our visit clean. we asked her if there was someone who could to give us advice on the route we had planned that will let them and the locals directed us, sir, to the local hunter who actually lived in that house when your oily but we asked him what a dog why wasn't your house rebuilt like all the others and was little and he said, you know, when the government decided to rebuild this place, flesh,

half of the people wanted to keep their old homes retain the yanks of the government. we found ways to lew them out of town and it's sending them to help results and so on. what interested and while that people were out of town date rebuild their houses, but the hunter refused to go anywhere. why, what the climate hans are after all he said a little, so his house remained as it was, and now she says, my house is a monument to how unreasonable and ignorant i was feeling when he saw the comforts that the new houses offered. she realized that he should have allowed his home to be rebuilt to the new house is really comfortable. while back down we have to live here, but i really appreciate your time today and wish you all the best sold a lot of your future trial of this year. thank you for watching. hope to hear again on well the part with

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