[000:00:00;00] hello, obama protective phone existence with ah, this household headlines right now on our team international r t. when to battle with google as a russian court rules in favor of a lawsuit filed by the channel against the u. s. tech tried to restore access to its blocking you tube channels with it doesn't matter for russia, whether western countries, except are decisions or not. it would be right for every country around the world to accept the new reality. all russia is talk different about, says western nations. we'll have to accept the new reality that the country

standard agrees to include 4 regents into that of the russian federation. get lost. that's the gist of the response by ukranian and western politicians to the ideas for solving the war proposed by the world's richest man. the lawn must with the international from moscow a very well welcome to you. it's great to have your company with us. we do kickoff this tuesday evening with some breaking news coming from moscow, where an arbitration call has found in favor of a claim lodged by arts he against to google to restore access to 27 of his channels that are currently blocked on youtube. let's get more of this right now and across laptop correspondent marina corvette joining us this evening. good to see you marina, the courts decision. it doesn't, well, it doesn't mean that instantly the access will return to the channels on the platform. although it does potentially seem like a big wind for our tea. can you?

can you talk us through the story marina? it's absolutely a big win for r t, because for example, according to the verdict, google has to unblock all 27 channels belonging to r c or face of 5. and that find amounts to $100000.00 roubles per day. and if it doesn't do that, then that amount increases every week, so it's doubles per day and every week that will increase. and but of course they have 30 days to appeal as with any case. so we will see if they do that. but this isn't the 1st time this all sorted back in march, basically after russia special military operation and ukraine, and you to block several channels belonging to russian accounts. and the reason that it did that, of course, was because it was trying to minimize, the voice is coming from within russia. anything to do with the russian angle or why it, what's happening and what was happening. exactly. so you to bid in one that's

a viewers to hear that side of the story, something that we've seen before. so of course it blocked it and then we had about $15.00 to $20.00 russian media organizations that filed the lawsuit. and a one of them, the 1st one being categorized and that actually in march that channel wanda lawsuit and google was ordered to pay 1000000000 roubles in compensation. so now a google has a 30 days to appeal that decision. but again, to rory, this is something that it's not only russian state media or affiliated channels that were bad. we also had russian entertainment channels, a band from youtube across europe. i should, i had. so it was really a case of you to go mad. they just didn't want to hear any voices coming from within russia, even if it was a comedy show. marina google, as we all know, has been accused in the past of censorship and basically attempts to control the online world. we've had so many analysts on our team to national,

but it described google as a, a state apparatus. but what, what does this court decision mean in general marina? is there any chance i could set a precedent? well, rory, i think it's hard to say that i would set a precedent because we've seen situations like this happened before, not only with possible with other countries, so it's happened before it's happening again. so no doubt we will see it happening again in the future. if you to see that there's something there that doesn't fit with their agenda and their agenda is pretty much similar to the western narrative, the western agenda. so whenever they hear something that doesn't suit their narrative, they start blocking it. and they all they have to say is that doesn't fit within our community guidelines, or you're spreading misinformation just recently. i believe it was last week. there was an interview with donald trump and that was taken down because apparently once again, it didn't follow community guidelines and there were spreading misinformation and that's an interview with a former us present. and so as soon as there is an angle or points of view that

they don't agree with, and it could be on any topic, it's not only politics. you also have covert. you have other situations where we've seen drugs before. whenever it doesn't, it's not what they want to hear, that will block it banners and they don't want to hear anything about it. they don't even have to explain themselves. and like i said, in the case of rasa, we even had entertainment channels blog, which they don't mention politics or anything of that kind. all right, i'll tell you marina culture over the latest on this breaking news from moscow. appreciate it. see you soon. so the world should accept the new reality. that's the message from russia. as for administer, while commenting about the accession of for formal ukrainian regions in russia. following, of course the local referendums last month, the upper house of parliament in moscow approved this morning to include the darnell scandal godsig republics. as well as her song and apology regions into the country. of silicon incident stood,

it doesn't matter for russia whether western countries accept our decisions or not, it would be right for every country around the world to accept the new reality because it has been absolutely inevitable. actually historic day as the federation cow. so the upper house of the russian parliament has ratified the treaties on the accession of the foreign, your regions to the russian federation. the documents will now have to be signed by president putting hand we know his opinion on that issue. before the vote, rushes for minister sergey lavoie gave him emotional speech before the senators. here at the federation council, he stressed that joy in russia was the will of the people on the ground following 8 long years of bombardment. and open oppression from here. that the west, very much supported for what you will need to probably in the care of regime has been deliberately pressing the russian speaking citizens of ukraine and the residents of the don. that's can lugens people's republics who refused to recognize

the criminal. my don authorities and were then denounces terrorists, ukrainian armed forces and new nazi battalions have been cruelly taking revenge on don bass residence have been showing the cities killing and wounding people and tried to choke the region with blockades. killed openly and with impunity broke the minsk agreements, which had been unanimously approved by the un security council to western countries cynically ignored. the ukrainian radicals actions, the west, that minister oliver of sad had been supporting key of an oppressing people. of they don't boss, republics of logan's can donate the pedagogy in his own regions now sees the move as the violation of international law. we heard from the un secretary, general american president and a number of other western leaders that they will never accept or recognize the staff. and they dismissed it already as a legitimate library, though reminded that hate stays very much in line with the un charter particularly it's fought,

confirming the right of all the ations to self determination. he reminded that the declaration of 1970 states that every nation has this right and more to the point, all the states must refrain from gwyle and actions opera. he retained the people to fulfill this friday meant clause, if needed, the people have their right to resist and receive support from the international community. when military declared in the un declaration signed in 1970, and unanimously supported by the un general assembly. there is a stipulation that the territorial integrity of states must be respected if they maintain the equality of the people, joseph, and if they have a government which represents all the people living in this territory. so there is no need to prove that the key of regime does not meet the standards as over many years. if these principles happen violated issue budgets. and while ukraine's president zelinski coal the referendums, a sham, and doubled down on his decision not to hold any peace talks as that he may putin. in fact, he even signed a decree into ukrainian laws,

specifically to that effect on the russian presidential spokespersons to meet your passcode says there's no way that peace agreements can be reached unilaterally. customer use, you can even if it takes 2 sites to conduct negotiations, russia has been pushing for feast talk since before the military conflict began. and ukraine, we will wait for a change in zalesky position or for may be another future ukrainian president who will act in the interests of the ukrainian people. initiating a nuclear war is unacceptable. that's the message today. from russia's foreign ministry, it comes amid increasing alarm and the western media over what they fear is the atomic weapons threat posed by moscow with some reports, claiming rushes, preparing some sort of nuclear readiness, test them at the war in ukraine, a comparisons to the cuban missile crisis have even been made it consensus in washington is that we are closer to the use of nuclear weapons than at any time

since the cuban missile crisis 60 years ago. and over what? over, who governs and rules? not even ukraine, but the don back over the past week or so that happened. a number of warnings coming from the us, including from the current and ex directors of the cia who accused moscow of quote, reckless rhetoric when it comes to the use of nuclear arms while claiming they'll be a joint nato response in case of such use. while the u. s. national security advisor earlier threatened that moscow would face cap post traffic consequences. well, it's all comes off. the president putin said 2 weeks ago. he was not bluffing. when talking about nuclear weapons, i would use all the means available if there were any threats or russian territories. meanwhile, on tuesday, the criminals, as folks both and said, russia wouldn't take any part in the current nuclear rhetoric being pushed by the west. as he slammed the current media speculation and well, let's take this further right now we have a panel of guest joining us there. when are you into national?

a very good evening for all of you guys. michael maloof is on the left side of the screen. michael maloof, or for the security policy analyst in the office of the us secretary of defense. the middle screen is mr. conwell sibyl, the for foreign secretary of india, indian ambassador, the toki, egypt, france, and russia, and all the far right, his nicola markovich, author, and a political, and this gentleman, a very well welcome to you and good evening to this program on our t international. nicola, 1st to you and your view, why are we seeing the increased flow of media reports on the supposed russian nuclear threat in recent days? it's kind of come out of nowhere. it has indeed, i think this is again, part of the western scare mongering campaign where everything coming out of russia has to be. despair has to be threat, has to be scary to some extent. and all of a sudden we hear about this risk that russia is going to group for nuclear on, on ukraine, or the rest of the world, depending on which, which western media you're reading. this is part of

a campaign to propaganda campaign. to smear russia, all of these experts in the west and governments which are fueling ukraine with finance, with, with weapons, with all of this is since 2014 and not since the beginning of the year since 2014 knew that russia was a nuclear power. they knew that if they were going to start a war ended on best next to a nuclear power, there would be risks one day that we can wake up this nuclear power, which is russia. they all knew this. they just didn't tell it to the rest of the population and all of a sudden, for some specific reason. this is right. this is part of it, their own rhetoric saying that russia is going to be using this again, this is all propaganda. i think russia has no intention of using nuclear power, but it has said that it is ready to use it because it's ready to defend itself. and that's why countries like the us, like france, like china, have nuclear weapons to defend themselves. and that is not forget that the one of

the what they're one of the countries which is the most aggressive towards russia today, the united states is the only country in the world today, which has already use nuclear power, nuclear weapon against civilians in japan during world war, i mean we can bring up a very interesting points on a jump in, but when you think about that, drop the bombs, you say that above dropped on a and i guess aki and hit option that was actually in japan had capitulated japan. the leadership had capitulated by that point, and yet america still dropped those bombs. anyway, michael, over to you. how relevant, michael, the comparisons right now, being made out of the cuban missile crisis of $962.00 when it comes to the, the current tension around ukraine. i mean, are there real grounds for fear, or is it just part of the rhetoric and be straight michael? come on. now, it's clear to me that this is hyped up rhetoric. as the previous panelists said, it's, it's looking for ways to incite more support around the ukraine. and,

and i think that trying to trying to have scare tactics of this nature with nuclear weapons coming emanating from the west and not from and not from russia, is meant to get the united states to take more direct action by more of the neoconservatives and former military generals in the united states, such as betray us to, to get more involved because the whole notion is to contain russia. i think, i think moscow strategy is, is not going to be trying to launch a tactical nuclear weapons. there's no need i think what the, what russia will do. ready hold the areas that it has that it and in fact that have

voted to join the federation and maintain them. and they've got strike at supply lines where that are coming in from, from the west and, and, but, but the notion is not to take over the entire country that i, that i can see, hold on to what you have and, and govern that. and, and, and maybe use a combination unless zalinski finally decides to have talks to continue putting cyber attack pressures and hitting the dep owes where the western arms are coming. and i think that that's going to be the strategy. well, michael, we've certainly be hearing from, from the white house. they've been saying that there's been all sorts of back channel messages going between the white house and the credit in the white house warning the criminal, you must not use nukes, and there will be di, catastrophic consequences from washington. if you do a kind of, well over to you, the russian president has only a stress that russia would use all means available if there was any threat to its

territory. so any talk of nuclear arms use, it essentially is in the terms of defense at this point. but the west apparently is not convinced conwell, while, you know, russia has, is nuclear godfrey, which we know sort of us would sounds similar to us, china, so that in the u. k. in nothing new and countries like i just did. and we're going to and they believe in bus, you, india has been advocating for a long time. that all was, i should be doing that students agreement. so that that would be a possibility of initiating nuclear was avoided. but who are the people who are opposing the 11th grade? well, you can reason that one. yeah, that it isn't. that said that it makes sense. now us at the,

not who all the model. mostly it is not that critical investor. ukraine is not a government building than that. you know, what have you and the president will miss that, that i'm not really into what i have. why should we think of using tactical nuclear weapons and not exhaust all the military spin? that number 3 is going to be a lot about using that they didn't use that shot is the lose. it does not have the capacity which span ukrainian down to the convention stand not, you know, they're not the real war. and therefore, we only join didn't use that. and i think it's the number for, you know, lots of writers, countries like along them was nuclear ones in december. and the assumption

was that was going to be a really good issue. but here in the united states, fighting a box in war against a against nation with a miserable new law. and, and so we the united states, and i'm like the board wall modeling. the cuban crisis hasn't been any. did it last? yeah, actually united states is waging war against russia not only on the ground and maybe done but also or not. and then it was kind of all the and i'm sorry i just jumping on just for a 2nd. hold on. i'm so sorry. because you are you on an absolute role, but i've got to give you an guess a bit more time. i wanted to just head over to nicola for a moment because i took a screenshot of my phone today of some comment tree of when people were talking about the possible nuclear threat. and somebody wrote in one of the comments, the media should do a much better job explaining to americans. but the reason they're at heightened nuclear risk right now is because the u. s. government knowingly chose to put them

at heightened nuclear risk. this is a comment that i thought was very interesting. nicola, and the times newspaper reported reported on monday that russia might conduct nuclear tests on the borders with ukraine, citing nato. how credible nicola of such reports and your view? well, to get back, i'm not just on the 1st comment. i think this is extremely true. we have a lot of propaganda spread out in the atlantic world natal countries in the west about what is going on in ukraine. and it's very difficult to have access to, i would say a different opinions and histories spend a bit of time on the, on the internet, which is still a bit open to some people today. so this is part of the propaganda scheme as we spoke about before. it is extremely important that media enjoy is in the west, the courageous brave enough to speak about what is really going on a to remind no to be in the united states. that america waging war dire indirectly or directly i think, will say, directly against russia, which is a nuclear power. so i'm going to see the people in the united states and the rest

of the needle. countries must know what their countries are doing because nato is a military organization. and if one of them goes towards him to be attacked and they all go. so the people in these countries know what their space, what their government are doing and ukraine today. what they call us, as nato says, no, we are only a defensive block, and it was just the other day that you installed and bug was saying that nato is not a direct party to the conflict in ukraine. micheal, the over to you if i bay of course the west has been pumping ukraine with weapons since the very start of the culture that's been no movement towards peace negotiations. another, a cold for even more supplies from the ukrainian president and more promises from western leaders and all this is doing, michael, it's further ratcheting up tensions in that part of the world. is it too late, michael? or is there a way to pull back from this possible bring i think there's a way to pull back if, if at the, by the administration, because with quit egging the egg in the,

the entire conflict on the way it is. and of course, by doing that, it gives the lensky false hope he's, he's never going to regain all that territory back. he's not going to get back the, the, the, the crimea, that, that's the reality on the ground. and the united states can only sustain supplies and logistics for so long without going into a full military production capability. because we also have to back back fill the, the europeans. and they're really becoming much more reluctant to continue fueling this, this, the conflict. and this, and we see this already in germany, we're seeing, we're seeing demonstrations in a few countries, especially germany. and now the pipeline issue has really created a greater crisis for europe. and they're going to have to decide whether they want

to sustain this in an, in an in determinant like the time. and i don't think they can sustain that. and i think that's the reality that they're facing. even their industries will not be able to support a war, a war time production to michael michael some of these new contracts or send weapons to ukraine. they would even be fulfilled for one to 3 years from now. suggesting that many of the weapons reserves, whether in america or the nato countries, already scraping the bow. yes, michael, let me say one other thing. i don't see any indications and warnings from russia right now that they are preparing for even a limited new killer attack. even the use of tactical nuclear weapons, they know that that would absolutely change the entire thing and i believe that they do not have to go to extreme. as i said earlier, and when you have the portray us is of the of america, we even have

a rubio whose the, whose a, a city member of the senate intelligence committee, that he was reluctant to, to suggest that moscow was going to that extreme. and he gets all the intelligent on this type of stuff. so yeah, i think that this is overplayed. alright, michael, we're gonna hit a conwell now. conwell the us, it's valid to respond with, quote, catastrophic consequences. in case moscow were to deploy and a nuclear arms. i mean, do you think these vows a re a realistic or is it more of a diplomatic move like, you know, you have your playing threats or poca? yeah. i think when both of them were going said he's not bluffing. better than by them. felt that it or the embedded on the spot to use equally strong bridge. and therefore he won't get to stop the consequences about this is just make believe that russia is not going to use that. i had always been a very,

there's one symbol always i dissipating in any effort at the had been agreed would be a nuclear disarm. and as you know, all one fall to start one start to it is united states that walked out of the in p b. i n f e d. open skies. and russia always fear that i just, it was developing. it was like it realty nipple pothole. get a b m components in the all and then in romania does feelings to kill and therefore eat reading is new doctor is in existence or set up new things you can have, like you will it be. russia has developed nuclear weapons and it's penetrated your shoes. and that's what it must be within himself and when the new weapon, it's very unfortunate that being brought out into the open like this in this manner . and finally, i was it a defense the war?

russia has not attacked any united states or any country. yes, it is. there is a military operation against looking at how ami your grand is a defensive war or you would have been and it doesn't make any sense. but as i said, as many people have had quite a while. but at this point, because even the defense minister of russia, so to show who set off at the 1st couple of months of the war and ukraine, ukraine run out of weapons ever since then. it's been russia versus nato, and nato is a huge lines of various countries. here it's one country, russia going against the nato, a line. now, admittedly, russia's having help from some of its allies. we've seen iranian drones being used in ukraine, essentially nearly turning the tide of the conflict there. nicola, i wanted to ask you the c director, the u. s. defense secretary, they have actually admitted. there's no evidence as michael was saying, of an eminent nuclear threat from moscow to ukraine. but what we're noticing is, is that the news articles, the press agencies, they don't report that they report fear, fear,

and nuclear get. and why is that the case for several reasons? first of all, this is the way the u. s. is always a waged, it's war is, don't forget that. so but most of which was the worst man on earth and then it was cut off or then it was a sad i would say, and then it was it always. they always have to have a book. you man, they always have to have an existential threat. they always have to have something which is going to destroy the earth or destroy the, the order of the caribbean countries in a specific zone. so this participates the narrative. imagine for one second that on the front page of the times or the washington post or the moon that you would have all of a sudden real professionals say special if experts on the ground or saying that was reading a lot of big news that were bidding a lot of lives that were actually not speaking about matters that we really understand this would destroy the rhetoric that this is one of the propaganda. this

is a weapon of mass distraction, where we're making people into what believe that in russia, there is some sort of crazy pirate wants to eat up to create and destroy the rest of the world. you join us, we're to say, no, there's not really true that his job would be at risk, and we actually do see, i mean, i see every day in western rip, some funded what's in a while, have access to mainstream media. but they're rarely invited. another again, so a lot of drug know that if they're going to start speaking the truth, they may lose their jobs. but again, this is extremely important that we'll join it, do the job you courageous enough, go out there and spread the truth because at the end we just want peace. this is a very interesting point to color, and i'm really glad you raised it. and the fact that journalists today are under immense pressure, it's a tow the line to tow the rhetoric and to make sure that the media is basically complicit with the government and continue and gets the arm of domestic or even foreign policy. i was, you know, i was thinking about this earlier because the nuclear issue has come up essentially,

in the immediate days off of these referendums that would held for these 4 new regions, these former ukrainian readers to join to join russia. and michael, you know, these referendums took place, 80 percent voter turnout saying we want to join the russian federation over a 100 international observers with michael from 50 different countries. and yet western power players say it's a shot. it's theater. there's no truth to any of it. but there were a 100 international, it was that was $150.00 countries. is that saying that all those observers illegitimate? well, then this is that they go against the narrative that by the administration is perpetuating and to get and this also gets back to your previous issue about the media. the control media at the corporate media itself is, is locked in lock step with the biden administration. and they have to be, or they,

they don't exist and they are helping to perpetuate that. this propaganda, it's propaganda. it's, it's, and it's, and it's very insidious. and frankly, most of the american people here are not thinking about the ukraine. they're worried about other things. and yet we have this, this constant mantra, by the, by the administration was spurred on by the nia collins, such as victoria newland and blinking. and when does sherman, all of the state departments wanting to continue this, the activity of, of back in the ukraine. but not even protecting our own borders made this, it's so bizarre. people are just so confused by what, what, what the policy is and why, why all of this is happening. and again, it's being perpetuated by the, by certain press,

people who don't want to lose their sources in government and they become very comfortable with these sources over time. it's very danger days we're in very dangerous days. michael, when, when the, when the media southern press agencies up at behaving this way. and i really generally wish we have more time to continue this conversation. i wanted to give conwell the final word here, but we've just run out of time. michael maloof on the far left screen, the former senior security policy analyst in the office of the us defense secretary, a commonwealth, civil in the middle, the former foreign secretary of india, an indian ambassador, a toki, egypt, france, and russia. and of course, nicola markovich, author and a political analyst to all 3 of you, it's been a pleasure, thank you for joining us on the internet and then thank you. thank you. thank you. i thank you for joining us as well. if you want to catch up on this story, you can do so at r t dot com. oh