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yes, so where are we now exactly? record inflation in the united states. the consumer price index is up 8 percent over august. now at this point, they've just continued printing money and the rising energy and food costs do the sanctions on russia have only made things worse. american families are getting squeezed. polls show the public is furious over continued economic mismanagement. so it sounds like the right time to give the guy who started all the nobel prize, just another sign of our out of touch. the american elite really are a lot mobbing our t new york. i love is how the mid week news rop is shaping up for now. i'll be back out the top with all the latest developments to hope you can join me than by from her ah,
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move when i was showing wrong when i just don't hold any rules yet to see how does the because the advocate and engagement equals betrayals. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look so common ground. ah, garage is with boston with godaddy missouri to completely quit key at the when ocean comes, keep the process is to do let molly complete cranes give us a little bit less. but in a row, spoke with of crashes to phone us in the hole. could i get you?
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i need video with she would she used to patsy professional lithium door prevalence. zavala baggage, what they use because that will be difficult. ah ah . with hello and welcome to cross hoc were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, my what a few days in some missiles can make rushes retaliation to be attack on the crimea bridge was focused and deadly will care and its western handlers now think twice before engaging in more, sabotaged and terrorist assaults. the choice is there's ah
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cross fucking flipping the script, i'm joined by my guess tom longo in north florida. he is publisher of the gold goats in guns blog and newsletter in tulsa. we have jeremy cars motto he is managing editor of colbert action magazine. and in washington state we crossed to andre marciano. he is a writer, as well as a military and political analyst. all right, cross off rules and effects. that means you can jump in anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. ok, want to start with andre in washington state. andre, can you, can you clear up a misunderstanding? i keep hearing about them. i thought the russia had no more ammunition, didn't have any missiles. they were relying upon china to, to re replenish stocks and they need a rainy and drones and then all of a sudden yesterday, and today happen. can you explain this to me on today?
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first is marriage you because they need to from all this matter to washing backwards. you know, really good people who oversee are going to be destroyed because of the lack of mcdonald's and i falls. and secondly, as i restated and it's in my books, it's everywhere. i write about it for years as a home is the fact that they don't study the country as our state of dad being military in economically. what have you, what are the aspects that state back teaching. they simply don't know. those who know those on all down law allowed to have day you too. and that's why we have this issue. one big existence, some kind of the informational bible echo chamber. and that's what it is. i mean, no matter how you try to reasonably those people who can reason, but they don't understand the limit they go to tom tom that because this is
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a big surprise, you know, the, you know, we always have to point out in this program is that when you have a bad narrative, you get bad results. ok, and this is result of this of this narrative. the, the interesting question is going to be, is, will care with the backing of the us continue with the sabotage events like the nord stream. i like the crimean bridge because you now they know what the reaction of the russians, there's going to be the question i want to ask all of you before the program is over. why didn't this happen or after february 24th, but maybe that's a moot point. tom, go ahead. well, when i say peters that they've opened up a can of worms that they are, that now is, is very dangerous right now. civilian infrastructure in international waters is open is fair game they've gotten, i think they, i'll be honest with you. i think the u. s. i think it's more the brits in the polls than it is the u. s. is probably a mixture of all of them with the u. s. having plausible to my ability or at least
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factions within the us have a possible deniability where we're behind all the stuff. and like, to me, it's very clear that they want the war. they want to an a wider war, but not sure on what terms they want that wider, where they just want to be able to get to. and the russians to over react to whatever provocation, you know, they keep punching the russians in the face. and they keep hoping that the russians as they are i us enough. and we're just going to live here, which then gives us the though the west gives them the moral high ground to say, okay, now it's time to take a rush. well it but tom that, that's, that works under the assumption that, you know, i've been playing with this, who's got the time and who's got the clocks. oh, and again, they keep showing that the russians have both jeremy, i mean, it's really quite remarkable. yeah. okay. maybe the brit and maybe the poles. of course the americans know about it. but isn't it kind of pathetic when you think about it? is it okay? let's do another sabotage event, but it's not the u. k. that sabotage. it's not. poland itself, it does. it's not the you, it's ukraine. i mean, with these kinds of friends,
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ukraine is good to run out of people and land. very, very quickly. jeremy jump in. well, yeah, i think ultimately grained and buying their own destruction. and you know, they, you know, they had carried out massive atrocities and terrorist activities. car bombings within russia. busy i think us intelligence admitted that ukraine was behind, that somehow they're able to sustain some kind of moral high ground. it's one thing that i like to see people waving ukrainian flags and have ukranian flag in their house when it's a. busy government that was voted one of the most corrupt in europe is not the world that carries a brazen terrorist activities. and that basically. busy sold its interest as a country to these foreign powers who have a very pernicious agenda. playing a very dangerous game, as the other 2 guess pointed out, because it has nothing to do with ukraine and all has to do about somehow degrading
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russia's power, humiliating, and miss. we've seen this playbook for 30 years since the end of the cold war. there is the special military operation in play is a special military operation. plus, i mean it's very clear to me because we have the partial mobilization how and then we had these barrage of attacks over the course of 2 days. it's the same military strategy and play. go ahead. yeah. oh, absolutely, absolutely. don't forget that the planning goes no jobs online. you have to develop the decision 311 little reparations, and, or if your forwarded or object area or the combined. and especially united states or got that will be more and more as opperation. we're cedar and the russian basically dial $211.00. and after it's off, which is ation. and basically, as you do, the job strapped
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a job which got on for the last 48 hours in this book on chino. so once you have your domain name from scaffolds, pollution germination, it's relatively easy if you look at it from the point of view of the nation. all this bay don't be separated from back to me as your political body to go over rosabelle day is basically all, you know, these bids from, from your region. the country now mass. everybody's pretty pulled. you are all those ways. it's working just euro sole box. so it's not just new address, why would people also forget the larger your political issue and this is actually easier goodwill there you have to go, well it will be defeated which is scaffolding was being or i should walk up, you know, but so it's nothing but russia has enough and still base regular, severe,
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you know, it's like when the special military operation was announced, the, the 2 goals were denot vacation and demilitarization. i think as a result of the last couple of days, we can grow in d electric as ation as well. i mean, basically turning out the lights which is shown to be quite easy to do at very low cost and low cost in lives as well. tom, yeah, and, and this is the further what andre was saying, i agree, and that this is an economic war as much as is a military war. and it's very clear that as it's political war as well. and i've been saying to be any of this that it's always was meant to be a, a war of attrition on both sides and that their shock and awe on, on both sides of the. so we had little shocking off from the russians yesterday with a massive missile attack. we had shocking off in the americans and europeans with sanctions attacks back february, march. and now the question is, who's you know, whose political will, as andrea would pointed out, whose political will at home, whose photo um,
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support at home is going to run out 1st is are going to be the west source is going to be prudent. my bet is that it's going to be the west. i agree with that terry logical because jeremy mean, um, this is not of any real strategic value to the united states, even to even to the western europe. i mean, but it is russia's back yard or front porch, whatever you want to put it, it is of great national importance that are defense. and so that's why i think that they would have much longer resolved. and i think over the last 2 days we've seen that's the most important word that comes to my mind is resolved this thing. so this phase started on the 24th of february and it will be continued till completion, jeremy 1000000000. i think you also look at the economic situation in europe. i mean, the sabotage and stream pipeline adversely affects europe with the skyrocketing gas prices and heating crisis, heading into the winter and tearing economic conditions. i think you're going to see, you know, potential unrest in europe and already there, i think divisions,
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we see that in germany. gerhard schroeder, been strongly against a lot of the german policies, more toward cooperation with russia against the war. so i think we're already seeing a break in europe, especially related to the tearing or turing economic situation. and it's really not in the interest of the public whether in europe or the united states. where is the rushes fighting a life or death struggle and has tangible security interest. busy so i think the publics are going to wake up soon and have been so much deception and western governments about this conflict that just like a rack. i mean, we're just waiting for the bubble burst and more people to acknowledge the hollow of deception that way you know, under, if it's so curious who are watching politicians in europe react to all what's going on. i mean, we had a french energy official coming on saying the americans we look at, they're charging us for, for liquid, for natural gas, you know,
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but they're not talking about capping american energy, but, but only russian. and then you have german officials coming up. we're facing d v industrialization, but they're all fill in lock step, like zombies with this policy, it's insane watching it. go ahead tom. i'm sorry, i'm sorry andre andre, go ahead. go ahead and write out. well, it's pretty simple. that's what many people doing on the spam. russia has written europe, all europe is locked in, you more important for sure. you and complete a torch asia will continue and is actually speaking up to base as we'll see it. so in this particular case, if europe wants to commit suicide, which you are meeting as we speak, so, so be it. and again, as i write you state are people who were plotting best. and as usual game is called later because a real economy and certainly not competent issues of real
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warfare, you get all of our, all of our operational planning when your basic or whole career span or what our 30 years you, why there are no base read back or you, that there is all together, some guy, the insurgency, the samples with a saudi war. and they are how to deal with something which america, or for example, in college are since actually, since korea. and he will dam carriers. and i know, you know, i know that i had to jump in here gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on flipping the scripts thing. ah, ah,
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ah, welcome back to cross ok. we're all things considered. i'm peter labelle, to remind you we're discussing, flipping the script. ah, let's go back to tom in north florida. tom. one of the things i find very disturbing. i mean, after the, the, the barrage of the last couple of days biden was on the phone with zalinski no surprise. and you know, it doing promising support in every way, shape, or form. it's not an issue of moral hazard. i mean, there's a lensky gang has every reason to keep this going on as long as possible. ok, not for the sake of the ukrainian people or whatever will become ukraine, but for their own personal gains and goals. i mean, if you got this with numbers, you know, and they send the money, i mean, that is something, you know, that's a once in a lifetime gig and how many people would walk away from and considering the,
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ah, okay, we interrupt a problem because a lot of our partners just begun speaking at the russian energy week, international form in moscow. let's listen in direct conversation is especially important right now when the global economy and the hannah g industry is over is undergoing of a serious crisis that has to do with the prices of energy with the little images, the undermining of the balance between supply and demand and so with some of the actions by the jury, i'm a ra western partners that sir, are you when you guided only by their own goals and demolition they on to mine and destroy the infrastructure of their competitors? and then i'm talking of course about sir. ah, the attack on the tell me the more stream is one and north stream to pipeline what
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these were undoubtedly acts of international terrorism, each new when you aimed at undermining the energy security of the entire continent . and deliberately block the sources of cheap energy to europe. this david and force or that of the bully of other countries to buy those energy resources and higher prices. yes, they're trying to force their hands with you. we attack that a dangerous precedent because now we know that any key infrastructure, really asthma object to wherever it is located and promoted by whoever, whomever it is, control to sure, are managed on earth or on the ground or in the sea could be threatened swimmingly. my room is covered, i have to say that it come up to one of we also saw the terrorist attack on the
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crimean bridge road, which means we also you these 2 if you're us, for our, with justifies to the, to the fact that so this could happen in any place of the world, could we still and we know that the perpetrators have her. yes, in the loop actually use them. you do of still as a by or south america and considered that they were the ones who did that, although they've deleted their opposed later look. and usually we see what other terrorist attacks coming against for rushes as energy sector. our mobile power plants sent from you, but we know that the orchestra's and the organizers of this terrorist attack, we are ultimately bows, who profits from those attackers who are behind these diversions that these attacks on the north stream pipelines. people who would like to frontier, to the they be caught the ties between russia in the european union of the tides
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between russia and europe and our de mind, the political strength. and sir, if not all of europe and try to take their energy markets for themselves and only with the people that are only the people who will, who are not technically able to carry out an attack like this, every little benefits or they have been caught red handed by, they still were able to lay justice and so i wouldn't go, i won't go to details as in a kiss as the you, she's here because we're talking about the geopolitical importance of her remaining energy systems that go through bowlens, likely yamil durable through ukraine, we have to pipelines, there aren't rules, assuaging, actually russia built those pipelines using our own in the money with them
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for that. but elisha, but some point near go area failure lately fewer pena and just curious like her, like our western partners. i like to say it's highly likely for much that we know who's responsible for those attacks and who's responsible. yeah, way for concluding more mystery old is because now on the west and the u. s. planning to deliver it liquefied natural gas to europe. it's much higher prices than those that we proposed through the pony can agreement. there are because there's a certain other reason system in addition to the rise higher prices, i'm talking about the instability level of dance goes where the liquefied natural gas. because again, we have, we have seen, could you give me a little, an american? but i wanted to put a much bigger, but anchors loaded with the liquefied natural gas. just even if you changed course
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and move from their destination to some other destination because of they were expected to be paid more people. so you can not rely with these deliveries are not truly reliable. who was at $22.00 that actually made some gas deliver is reliable to europe. it was russia location of our western counterparts. mister la guzman would have liked to remember that, in fact, several it, if they say that we don't want to be over at, apply them with gas, but it's wrong. we are actually which it but i guided borrow contractual obligations. it, we would like to supply europe with all its energy needs. i haven't got good with that on many occasions with that in north 31 and 2 pipelines are not political in any way. these are commercial project where russian and european local companies are involved on the commercial level and partner on the same level ground. so these
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is a matter to be decided by ourselves and our european partners is going to produce you and certain level 3 story and rebuilding the 5 lions the middle. the me then go online to the voltage see or bus? no, when the law sea floor and it is of course possible, but little required time and efforts. and of course we would need to make sure that these pipelines are secure it from any issue. and your brother attacks would failure to you. but all that, of course, hinges on our discussions to the bo way of the our european counterparts. we know that one are the white line, the, the, with the seemingly is on the harmed, missouri which unlike of people and design their happiness, it is damaged. but we do not know because our european partners are do not allow us to participate in the terms of the analysis. although with splitting the media of
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the who could use the of his integrity, the forget why some, you presume the but the were input of together the capacity that it could provide would supply 8 percent of all natural gas that you required. chicago, that russia is ready to continue to provide natural gas to europe or the ball is in their hands and, and you're getting their or to answer completely. it's up to them as soon as you need to decide whether they want additional at atc in natural gas through the winter period. would you? that will please. and we have talked to many occasions about the nature and the origins of the christ as the meridian continents, including with the understanding of the martha. this is so obsession, where you, renewable energy sources really well naturally narrow them cannibal, natural resources or energy energy sources such as solar energy, wind, energy,
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and water. energy are of course important, but annoying me. considering the main rate at which the international economy is growing and considering the demand for energy that we face across the world politically. but as we know, you cannot seem to be guided by. now what that could do is short sighted political goals in the ticket with when such important matters are being discussed, there are long term contracts in the gas sector. now the and i being denied that are being torn to shreds. and so when you and i guess i believe you while you were in the thing with was the with melissa spots the system in will be sure of will. and the way it is, sir managed right now would lead to massive losses. the contract across europe, which could be avoided if long term contract or use charles. this is where a suppliers involved. both of them are income,
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energy resources. this is the difference between a long term contract prices and these sport prices the, the difference is $3.00 to $4.00 times 2 families. we're, we're the ones responsible for that. you know, ellen beckwith was a part of the ease of these type of trade of this model. of trade was imposed on us that was imposed on gas brought material or who we are now tied to this. what markets they did that find out liquidity and they are responsible and this is how are we to blame them? so what are we going to do with those prices make them, but if they continue to stay by one of them as high a picture to begin with. wow, look as opposed to when know what the americans doing. we know what europe is doing this just to leave it on the not printing money. no. what about the euro money? i mass in europe grew by a trillion euro greek terrace, or the past year. and we know that the limbs crown them,
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but is your fuel or is the way shun trees. producer philippine country especially developing countries, will have to pay you higher prices, but i'll just search for food. but for energy as well, you're in the pro and so the 3 that are happy with the whiskey in the european markets when our c energy sources mean, that's the key part of him told ad sir, there are $3.00 to $4.00 times higher prices than before. the in the ordinary europeans are suffering their energy bills. literally have grown by the 3 or even more times. we did your opinions on the collecting woods or to provide heaters for themselves during the winter. sure. yet that is. and again, it is their own them falls from cook. this is not, no, no great results all in the national military operation. ukraine, not at all. do you feel that it has to do with a fall team policies in the energy sector over the years?
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absolutely not a decades ago when you get that and viewed them. but other than we see it was good and is i arrange a spanish product super, literally ah, nothing that goes through for free, becoming unavailable to grow. european consumers and businesses have to close down the process or move to other countries. this is happening at middle yoga across europe. here. then there are some statistics i would like to or provide some humility, that according to europeans themselves, according to the european union with new statistics that exposed to europe into 10021 was 89000000 of the year. and in between the 3233 euros in the year. and it was 162.5 from russia to europe. so there's a deficit for europe from google, or that was 2021. and in the 1st months of this year,
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really the deficit grew even larger with the of the up to 102300000 with our juris. what's the reason for that? you are we are selling our products. we are ready to sell our product, the euro, but they don't want to bite. they introduce their embargoes issue and that's where the deficit comes from us. so again, this is not our role is like us and they are blaming us. but we want to sell our products. we got, we want to keep the market prices. we are ready to sell, but you don't want to buy. so the deficit is rising, the uniform again. another, not our fault to foresee what if you decided to stop ah, engaging in partnerships with russia. so it's up to you. it's a shift, sammy giovanni, to noon. and i wish we were actually should be in officials at the highest level are admitting that right now, but here they are saying that there's no reason for his europe,
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sir. just these are prosperous. yes. prosperous vacuum us decades has quite a lot to do with russia. and the partnership that we had over the years with slay food and so instead of working on to restoring their own attitude, competitive advantages such as little go, blair, russian indian briefly imported her and energy sources. if you put a do instead of, they want to decrease the reliance over our energy to do resources, the cabinet equivalent. and with we see that they are guided in many ways by the united states. and let me provide you a quote quote, you'll buy an economist from the united states as a winner of the week. it is as the end of this price and the novel prize in economy that he said if you're exec, $1.00 wanted engineer pedagogy, she wanted her to have a deficit on tomato sympathy with 2 jew polluted. if you master dorothy,
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make it me, if sure of that sir guzman, that a pound of tomatoes, it is, sir, that's old, as it is for at least $0.02, the sub was one milton friedman said, and then you will have deficit was sure. so milton friedman asked long dead, but he is, he has nothing to do with our european on russian economy. and he is not an agent of record you to the russian restaurant you economy gave you of what he said is ruth truth in the clear but objective truth. but we're coming and the european leadership is ignoring the basic economy economic principles. they can go and there to actually shows us that when i came striving down the standards of life, of their own citizens are getting huge soon me if we must understand that if we put a cap on the, the, the prices of.

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