hunter, russian states co never be as tight as i'm phone and the most 19 divest. i'm not getting a group in the 55 with anyone else with rural van in the european union. the kremlin. yup. machine. the state on crush up to date and c. r t sport that even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube with me. oh, we raise a corn and soybeans here. so some issues that are different this year than in years

past is that with all the things going on the world today, our input costs have almost doubled. mm. it's going to be really hard for everybody to keep go. and chombo megan saw a wall our current laid treasure that is blaming russia for that your gas company is, are going to get plane for the problem. but they are not a problem. so by isn't really chan blamed food for college and the problem because he himself caused the problem in but the price is already gone up. fertilizer and chemicals have dramatically risen. what we need to do is make the what the united states needs news start and girl, and we get we can drill for oil in summary. and our government

thinks that we should be using our own oil, which is crazy. mm ah ah hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . as winter approaches, some cold realities are setting in the west sanctioned war against russia has failed. it is the west that is feeling the economic pain and ukraine's energy infrastructure is slowly being degraded. common sense would dictate a major re thing for these people in power. that is inconceivable. ah,

cross sucking ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, matthew aaronton month, a month trail. he is a senior fellow at the american university of moscow and director of the rising tide foundation of canada and where thing we have anthony webber. he is an independent political commentator and in los angeles we cross supply in. he is a strategic planning consultant, a private equity advisor and an independent economic analyst, or a gentleman, cross stock rules and effect. that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate pie, i'm going to go to you 1st in los angeles because you got up earliest for this program and it's much appreciated by all of us here, playing with you in the broadest sense, what is really at stake here because we have all of these apocalyptic pronouncements coming about, you know, we joe biden with his loose talk about armageddon, which is completely disgraceful and a responsible. and then we have a figures like joseph burrell, i of the, the e. u foreign policy, chief of stilton bird, the head of the, of nato saying, you know, a defeat for a victory for russia is

a defeat for the collective west. my words. okay. paraphrasing here. it's very apocalyptic on, on one side, what is at stake here because it looks to me that the west is afraid of being humiliated. go ahead in los angeles. well, ukraine, 1st of all, ukraine, as nato's sacrificial lamb, toward essentially preventing not just russian. this is forgotten, and western presser does tactically omitted, not just russian, but wider eurasian economic come up. and it's against essentially, you know, over century and a half of trans atlantic gemini, regardless of how fiscally teetering that a gemini might be at the moment of dis, wanted to make a note. this is not a forbidden information within any sort of western press regarding russia and to address the issue of wider stakes regarding russian no one in mainstream corporate atlanta says press is allowed to ask simple questions such as, just why warrant corbett chevry yeltsin, or even putin from 1999 until about 2003,

consider the penultimate evil on earth, why putin and russia since then. the answers because the kremlin decided out pace, anglo american energy, that as far as its resource book of the past 160 years by relying on its innately vast pools of oil and natural gas for projecting economic power. yet it was john d rockefeller, who infamously said that, quote, unquote, competition is a sin. hence, this manic drive for regime changing moscow back into ideally a drunken and nap them, thus western compliant yeltsin figure, or better yet of a load of mir tony montana. as zalinski figure, well splitting, rush ideally into pieces and appropriating its resources. once again, that steaks have never been higher for the ruling. trans atlantic occult establishment elite who are at this point willing to sacrifice billions of people if necessary, to retain and scale their political, economic, technocratic and metaphysical power. they collectively make doctor strange look.

doctor strange love looked like mister bean effort aimed to an ad flesh to what i just said here. go back to the history of the yukos affair and that's where all started. pie is absolutely right, buddhism farmer, he's a westerner and then the u co. severe happened and it's been downhill ever since because rushes protecting its economic resources primarily energy. matthew, let me go to you because we've heard all of this talk, you know, negotiations not don't give up one inch of ground all of this here, which is actually a signal that, okay, fine, we don't need to negotiate. we're going to end this the hard way, and the in the, in the west is saying they already know that ukraine probably can't win this, but they're going to continue to support it's. it's a war effort here. i mean, this is absolutely idiocy and nonsense, and his pious pointed out the billions of people around the world are going to be impact that are, are being impacted by this. go ahead, matthew. yes, as,

as lindsey graham famously recently said, we're, they're willing to fight to the last ukraine and that's great. they really just see the people who live in ukraine as just your cannon fodder. and this is really coming out loud and clear is as it speaks right now, i think that what we're facing right now is a logic of scarcity. ve the finance your oligarchy, that is trying to manage and contain control of the multi polar alliance, which is emerged in russia's obviously a key player. and that are desperate that a new type of system is going to be brought on line. that is premised around abundance in the creation of free energy that will not justify the type of mo lucien population reduction that they desire. and they have been working towards this for many decades. and that's why they sort of want to go back in time to the 990 s and just reverse the clock and pretend that the belt road initiative didn't exist. the ration economic union did not exist. and unfortunately, ukraine has been playing a joke, political role as a destabilization force in that process, but it's

a plaything. they're willing to dispose of the people living in ukraine as much as they're willing to ultimately dispose of the people living in europe or in the united states. because the, the lease currently tech, the tech to credit, at least, are completely psychologically more emotionally, intellectually detached from the citizens that they are supposed to represent. they're willing to sacrifice them. i would, i mean, i would even go further there ideologically possess. that's why they cannot see other options or ideologically possessed people. and they're all interchangeable, aren't they? you know, it doesn't really matter which what leader it is they can be moved over to another country equipment because when we have a ruling class that you know, they talk about diversity, but they're all exactly the same. they may look different, but they are all exactly as m. anthony is something that's already been mentioned. the program i think is really important, is that russia and countries that are remained friends and aligned with a friendly with it. they represent an alternative to the west and the west cannot accept that. they cannot accept that anyone else can do, do it better because the,

the west is failing and that's why we have so many countries around the world that will not condemn russia for the, for the military operation and ukraine. go ahead, anthony. yes, that's correct. he said, i have to concur with what's written said say fall i, if you look at the situation regarding the media and sexy and the u. k. is absolutely impossible to have them. so if you are regarding the crime, it's actually the government's richer courses, hopeless feed the course we've had the situation where doesn't matter, which prime minister is empower whether it is or a strong civil list. strauser will be here on the strength of becoming next. i don't just a book the book see on the train. and of course these big calls for general election of the u. k. i, i learned that whole the, like the policy of going to exactly the same policy, the crane and russia, a disaster situation. and do they have are of the people of you and well,

i shouldn't they have a referendum about what they want to and the war because i suspect a lot of them do. i'm sorry. yeah. ok. let me, let me go to los angeles here. a pie after everything we've seen, particularly since february 24th. is there any way going back? because, you know, there are these people, a lot of them are libertarians to, for some reason. think that we just go back to the minutes, go chords, you know, that can be a point of reference. i mean, i think these people are all delusional. i think bridges have been cut. i think a deep chasm has created here. and there are countries like india, russia, china, that have no interest in going back to what was before because it didn't work for them. so why should they reconsidered? and on top of it, all of these western leaders with their smiles and dangling shiny little things in front of your face. they don't keep their word, actually, they lie a lot, go head by. i mean, there's no way to go back because there's been a far as,

as far as the, the story line. certainly since, as early as 2008 with the global financial crisis with that permanently did was shift so much of the western middle class that had built over decades prior since the 2nd world war out of gear. and hence why you have homeless strewn across. otherwise, tony suburban laws, lawns across america, north america. i just so, you know, that's why i mentioned earlier, the stakes are, are massive because the entire eurasian east and certainly the global south are on to the facade and are trying to circumvent what has been essentially trans atlantic economic hedge. a monic rule, a for quite a while, just quickly a note on tactics here regarding russia. 11000 sanctions have been applied against russia since february since the start of the war. if spectacularly boomerang,

because you cannot sanction such a massive global energy provider without essentially collapsing your own brittle house of cards, fiscal house at cards, eventually the russian rouble is the strongest performing currency of 2022 out pacing what it was before. sanctions russians of earn $200000000000.00 and energy export since february despite lock trade elsewhere like the east needs to really do some sober soul searching over what it's trying to do. it's, you know, matthew, it's one of the and, and i have to say and i up my, my road record about talking about the what would become this conflict and will but the would conflict became i have to have that down almost perfectly except for one thing that pi mentioned i got the rubel thing completely wrong, because before february 24th, it was a soft currency. now it's a hard currency. amazing. yeah, no, absolutely. and, and i mean, if anything, it's driven more nations of the multiple or alliance of eurasia into each other's arms and have the nations like china, india, russia, we've already been moving in towards a very strong brotherhood,

have only doubled down now. and i mean, india is now buying what, 8 times more energy, 9 times more fertilizers from russia than they were the same time. last year. china, it's boomed, they've, they've made up for all of their losses to europe and put his has recently said as well, look, if it's, it's, it's not, it's a, it's on you. the ball is in your court. all you have to do is turn on the chaps we're even willing to provide all the energy you need and more through even turkey, if you want there still viability in parts of the, the north stream to that could supply the vital needs of european. so i think are getting massive because exhaustion right now over the ukraine propaganda. and they only wants to revive this winter and beyond and have a life that's for your average citizen wants. but russia and china and india are providing an actual method on how to actually do this competently and oh, we're running out of time. i mean, it's the chances to actually get on board with this and avoid world war 3, or at least avoid a dark age scenario in the west is, is hollan out of it. no west is on our trajectory of di,

industrialization. and there seem to be a lot of people on board with that, and i get nobody asked the people of europe if they would vote on such a thing. but that's what they're getting. we to talk a little bit more about how energy politics and green politics have become a perfect storm. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine staying with our team. i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, accept where such order is it conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to place trust,

rather than fear a various job with artificial intelligence. real somebody with a robot, most protective phone existence with you. today, i'm authorizing the additional strong sanction foreign companies. quitting russia, a licensing atm card. so blantan bangs disconnected from the international payment system. functional move hoppey, jermel donna and euro exchange rates follow up on i trouble up on a couple more stuff. so i would know what the committee met evoke, missed to build on this plan. is that correct? can you say or sure, see a material. we covered almost volume in russian business overcome this song. so, you know, i bought it in nasty to huddle. she's tremendously just me,

golden plus voice, bullshit, national, productive. notice 0 dash a miracle. what i see that put themselves when you call, when you with a cost to get a group. when you, when you've been with dr. newson, who is a school or some for her to lose a little bit neutral with welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered. i'm purely to remind you were discussing ukraine. ah. okay, go back to anthony and more thing. it's really quite interesting to me how the conflict in ukraine is a dovetailed in with this new green deal that so many of the leads are pushing here

that nobody gets to vote on by the way. nobody ever votes on this. okay. but the ukraine issue is a pivot for them to get this agenda on board because it's an emergency here. you know, i'm a green purse. i like nature and all of that. but i don't think, can you explain to me the bone headed miss of europeans saying, or does get it out? no more. russian gas, we don't want it. it's evil gas. okay. i mean, these people are not thinking pragmatically fine, you know, over years, new technologies, all that sites in fine. now they wanted, they really want a quick departure from this blowing up the pipelines north stream pushed it along here. i mean, i can't see a future of europe, have it having any kind of productivity with no cheap energy, anthony, how can you explain that? well, the reality is, from the previous possession with russia was that she assisting the green agenda. now i think when he's pushing it now, because economically,

it just doesn't work well they all say pushing on the safe and dangerous nuclear power as an alternative to ship energy. so it's all a complete loss. catastrophe and ninety's been austin, although in hungary i own going to have a referendum on sanctions against russia. in the u. k. there is a campaign say, have a referendum on the big neutral in the russia to you credit con. thanks. it's been completely no phone by literally all the mainstream media. so that's why we're up against the complete propaganda on this, on this issue. so, but i think these things which are happening, you know, reversible because you look at what happened with

a 19 vaccines agenda overnight, but you check this up again. i'm sorry me, we're out of luck to hung on everything else. so i think these propagandists are quite capable of changing the agenda when i see that like off the battle in regard to the old i, they want to come out to be very well because russia will undoubtably come out a bit very well. and the cycle questions or comments that he's will come out with a bad way. but you know, be, say, the way i say, what does this actually mean? because these countries all a true pro, by global as fast it interest. and we say, listen, the chinese recently i, what we need is a bit more democracy in the western european countries on because we're having policies which have approval from the update regarding this conflict in

do you trying to, and russia and, you know, we need to bear in mind that russia was, and both the 1st or the 2nd world was it wasn't that long ago that a number of members with the royal family were officially visiting russia to improve relations. i think it's not possible to go back showing that when, if you remember, we had the presser reagan and gorbachev agreements. we need to have people here go, states like abilities like we have been, but some of them for shame, that's very much one thing with the i wish i wish i could agree with you. but when we go back to pine los angeles, the problem is, is that we have a lead now that it is ideologically possessed. they do not see other options i. that's why i don't see any real liter coming out of the west because their ideology

doesn't allow it. it's, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the history of catholicism. you know, once you have the savior, you know, you, you, then you, you know, and you can have someone follow, you know, we already found it. ok, this ideologies. so frozen and pipe. if someone satcher say we should sit down and negotiate, then you're just a potent propagandist and stooge. they have painted this discursive themselves into this discursive corner. they can't find a way out and their material being is going to be degraded very, very quickly. i mean, the winter is starting, that's what i started out in my, my introduction. the consequences are going to be very great and not just for one winter for many winters. ahead. go ahead by. yeah, i mean the, there cards are limited as far as playing. i 1st saw the green movement, you guys were referencing earlier for decades. what that has been is essentially the, the top power structure of the owners of the banks who are tied very closely. as

matthew pitt can attest to the energy companies and have been for a well over a century, that's just sweeping propaganda. the green movement in large part has been a means for trying to get the rest of the world's attention deflected away from oil, natural gas of carbon. what are based fuels? because it is the monopoly or a perceived as the required monopoly of london swiss and new york banks and yet western and eurasia is assisting russia and its energy spine. while integrating, sweeping infrastructure growth is matthew is referencing earlier, russia and china will simply expedite the replacement of this 49 year old petro dollar reserve recycling standard. while the u. s. fed hikes, interest rates into a deep recession of the largest banks, manipulate fuel prices high enough to seemingly engineer trans atlantic stagflation . you really have to ask yourself like the prop again, on one hand a which answer he was referencing versus tactics on the other. it becomes very

transparent to anybody who's sober and thinking and has any appreciation for history. what's happening in the west? it matthew in ear me, i guess you need, you definitely need an appreciation of history in this day and age because very few people seem to have it. it same scene. you know, you don't have to be einstein to figure out. well, europe became safe and prosperous because, oh, and then i just got it cheap energy. so the indians and the chinese and everybody else in the world saw this formula work during the entire post war period. and they want to emulate the europeans. i want to do it. that's fine. that's your choice. it's your craven choice. no one is cutting it off from you. you're cutting yourself off. so what people see this isn't it is patently mad. go ahead, matthew. it is patently mad. i mean, no creature in the, in the bios for that we can see a willfully just commit suicide on their own. this is not something that ever really happens. and it seems like there has been in ideology as you've alluded to

in and i and has, is also me the point that there is a governing ideology, almost a pseudo religion. and it's a pseudo religion masquerading behind a form of scientific sociological theorizing. that is truly ivory tower that posits that we can go back in time to a state of christine a stasis. no change where we somehow live in equilibrium with unchanging nature, with technologies like windmills that we had used last in the 13th 14th centuries. it was fine then when we had less than a billing people, but today with 8000000000 or more, that is not going to work. and the effects of trying to undercut the type of abundance and means of production both and food, as well as industrial base of that this requires is bloodcurdling. the unfortunate thing is that we once had a very viable pro capital creation ethic before i was born, which has been under attack. now, there were many,

many decades and russians at russia, china and india especially, are really learning from what we used to do and seeing well, why can't they simply use the model that made the west once great of industrial progress, leaping beyond the limits to growth by embracing new discoveries and applying it for the, the needs of your society. that's what, that's what made us work. and we've, we've let that go now for decades by design. and we have a small window of opportunity to get it back. but it's, it's, again, it's a closing window. you know, anthony, when joe biden became president and i think was during his inaugural address. he said america will have a foreign policy that supports the middle class. i'm. that's not even a bad joke today. but in the reason i mentioned it in something that matthew had to say, is it, you know, you have the ration countries that are actually thinking about their middle class because a middle class for the ration countries is a relatively new phenomena. and it's something that makes their society's work again, that you always say best practices borrow the best practices, you know, europe did that in the post war era building up middle class in the us as well. but

they've abandoned that for ideology. and again, you know, one of the things i and i live here in moscow, the west is terrified of alternatives. alternative, a conservative society society that has religious believes all these things because most of the world looks at the west now and bill wilderness about their woke ism in values and whatever these things they don't understand and i don't understand it. but what i, what i do see i reject it and i think i speak for the majority of the world. anthony. yes. hi. i've been thinking she's pretty clear some baffled between her various who promoted the work agenda. and i see, are they speaking increasingly you saying that russia is? i've got valleys west west said go increasingly. so i know your point about the middle class and just metal classics. basically

a lower income people as well. the eighty's time with maybe you can, you know, the best countries look to walk up was in that country's best interest. so they've never been in the best interest of the u. k. should be both in the credit and are completely on the vast majority countries in the world, not century russia, that's involving several nights. so the wells population and lots of countries, even the ones have condemns russia in the u. then i've done a g deals, russia, we're just cussing around the country. it's a law continuing with the sanctions and pouring money into a very corrupt ukrainian government, dep. it, you know, that i want the most corrupt. so how much in the world we were told by fighting for

freedom and democracy that but they don't know how free no democracy i want to go to. i want to go to los angeles pie. i want to give you the last 30 seconds for getting up so early today. last 30 seconds got to you. just quickly back to ukraine, the world bank declared a recently, the ukraine's economy will shrink to 8 times more than that of russia's. but again, as we've reiterated multiple times during the program, london, washington, brussels and television, do not care. they'll throw the entirety of europe, certainly ukraine to be sacrificed, that arresting russian. and more importantly, why writer, eurasian economic integration and growth. okay, wonderful point to end on. i want to thank my guests in montreal where they and in los angeles, and i want to thank our viewers for watching a c, a r t c. and next time, remember crossing 1950,

the u. s. s. i was returning to peaceful life, but the newspapers didn't report ongoing massacres and the ukrainian ssr, according to intelligence ukrainian nationalists and the ukranian insurgent army, led by romans forgive. each perpetrated these atrocities to huge reserve, but hold at the hospital and what i should be self for me. why you would be wise to review. i wish to preserve all possible. do you mean your novels to the plant of was the head of the n. k v d sabotaged department of the time he was tasked with stopping the atrocities in ukraine for a good reason. general suda blanch of was very familiar with the situation he had experienced fighting the nationalist before the war at the movie will named lovelyn chicken garcia? do its inevitable, so didn't know, creamy but it was black, unbroken. the task was tremendously difficult but to the plant it was determined to complete it. we had personal accounts to settle with the ukrainian nationalists

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