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asian concerning areas of safe, temporary shelter, as well as humanitarian access to areas where civilians continue to reside. greece is providing humanitarian aid from the very start of the war. we have so far, deliberate, multiple packages of needs based in kind, humanitarian assistance. furthermore, we are firmly engaged to the reconstruction of ukraine. we have announced that we are ready to rebuild a maternity hospital destroyed by ration share link in the city of mario ball. and to contribute to the reconstruction of odessa and other city close to a hard for us seen our struggle for independence begun there. and we are ready and working together for the promotion of the candidacy of the historic center of the day. so for inscription on the who ne school world heritage at least, given my country's particular sensitivity regarding children,
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we have bled 20 and south 100000 tools to uni 5th humanitarian action in ukraine. furthermore, we have taken over the treatment of children with cancer at the core logic hospital for children l. peter, who means hope also we responded effectively to the needs of tens of thousands of ukrainian cities in seeking with huge from the war. having welcome to more than 75000 refugees, including on comp i need my nose. unfortunately, separated from the families from ukraine, eligible to immediate protection call center has been set up. the facilitate communication of displaced persons from ukraine with detailed information provided in greek, english, and ukrainian accent on education level also being into effect to ensure the
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inclusion of ukrainian pupils. at the same time, food commotion fleet, we contribute to the transfer of ukrainian grain. 2 words keep boards in the north african region in an effort to place food crises. and greece is always, is also strongly committed to accountability for war crimes. minister then yes, has sent relevant letter add to the prosecutor of st. the national criminal court. and in this respect, visited the hog, eh, no matter all the efforts of the international community, the only real solution to the ongoing suffering of the ukrainian people is the immediate association of the unprovoked aggression on the part of russia. thank you
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too. i thank the representative of greece, the blue there are no more speakers here on the speakers list are still in the meeting is adjourned with a doing skin in your skin when she can you me? i have some with room sco lee of maybe a gun used to be assessed about it. so if not with severe one order, it would have been spoken again. if you order for both which constitutes values
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from all you do. same with williams. sure. and you learn a little no problem and i'm not sure about it. but it said you lost your video in english so. so i'm listening screens. beth awesome. ology dinner. it's like no against ocean you wings. me check. let's see. a reason join your call now. she mison with them. we a stress from which nana garza that's in the world graham, she should ah, ah ah!
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hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things considered? i am peter lavelle as winter approaches. some cold realities are setting in the west, sanctioned more against russia, has failed. it is the west that is feeling the economic pain and ukraine's energy infrastructure is slowly being degraded. common sense would dictate a major rethink for these people in power. that is inconceivable. ah, crow sucking ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, matthew aaronton month, a month for y'all. he is a senior fellow at the american university of moscow and director of the rising tide foundation of canada. and when we have anthony webber, he is an independent, political commentator and in los angeles, we cross supply in. he is a strategic planning consultant, a private equity advisor and an independent economic analyst, or a gentleman crossing roles in effect. that means you can jump any time you want,
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and i always appreciate pie. i'm going to go to you 1st in los angeles because you got up earliest for this program and it's much appreciated by all of us here. i met you in the broadest sense. what is really at stake here because we have all of these apocalyptic pronouncements coming about, you know, we joe biden with his loose talk about armageddon, which is completely disgraceful in a responsible. and then we have a figures like joseph, well, of the, the e u foreign policy chief sells and birds ahead of the, of nato saying, you know, a defeat for a victory for russia is a defeat for the collective west. my words, okay. paraphrasing here. it's very apocalyptic on, on one side, what is at stake here because it looks to me that the west is afraid of being humiliated. go ahead in los angeles. well, ukraine, 1st of all, ukraine, as nato's sacrificial lamb, toward essentially preventing not just russian. this is forgotten and western press, or does tactically omitted not just russian, but wider eurasian economic come up. and it's against essentially, you know,
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over century and a half of trans atlantic gemini, regardless of how fiscally teetering that a gemini might be at the moment of dis, wanted to make a note. this is not a forbidden information within any sort of western press regarding russia and to address the issue of wider stakes regarding russian no one in mainstream corporate atlanta says press is allowed to ask simple questions such as, just why warrant corbett chevry yelled sin or even putin, from 1999 until about 2003. consider the penultimate evil on earth, why putin and russia since then. the answers because the kremlin decided out pace, anglo american energy, that as far as its resource book of the past 160 years by relying on its innately vast pools of oil and natural gas for projecting economic power. yet it was john d rockefeller, who infamously said that, quote, unquote, competition is a sin. hence, this manic drive for regime changing moscow back into ideally
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a drunken and nap and thus western compliant yeltsin figure, or better yet of allah, amir tony montana as zalinski figure. well, splitting rush ideally into pieces and appropriating its resources once again, that steaks have never been higher for the ruling. trans atlantic occult establishment elite who are at this point willing to sacrifice billions of people if necessary, to retain and scale their political, economic, technocratic and metaphysical power. they collectively make doctor strange look. doctor strange love look like mister bean effort into an ad flesh to what i just said here. go back to the history of the yukos affair and that's where all started . pie is absolutely right, buddha refer farmer. he's a westerner and then the yukos of air happen and it's been downhill represents because rushes of protecting its economic resources primarily energy. matthew, let me go to you because we've heard all of this talk now. no negotiations,
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no not. you don't give up one inch of ground all of this here, which is actually a signal that okay, fine, we don't need to negotiate. we're going to end this the hard way. and the in the, in the west is saying, and they already know that ukraine probably can't win this, but they're going to continue to support it's, it's a war effort here. i mean, this is absolutely idiocy and nonsense. and his pie is pointed out, the billions of people around the world are going to be impact that are, are being impacted by this. go ahead, matthew. yes, as, as lindsey graham famously recently said, we're, they're willing to fight to the last ukraine, and that's great. they really just see the people who live in ukraine has just your cannon fodder, and this is really coming out loud and clear is as it speaks right now. i think that what we're facing right now is a logic of scarcity. the, the finance, your oligarchy, that is trying to manage and contain control of the multi polar alliance, which is emerged in russia's obviously, a key player. and that are desperate that
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a new type of system is going to be brought on line. that is premised around abundance in the creation of free energy that will not justify the type of mo lucien population reduction that they desire. and they have been working towards this for many decades. and that's why they sort of want to go back in time to the 19 nineties and just reverse the clock and pretend that the belfry road initiative didn't exist. the ration economic union did not exist. and unfortunately, ukraine has been playing a joke, political role as a destabilization force in that process, but it's a plaything. they're willing to dispose of the people living in ukraine as much as they're willing to ultimately dispose of the people living in europe or in the united states. because the, the lease currently tech, the tech aquatic leafs, are completely psychologically more emotionally, intellectually detached from the citizens. that they are supposed to represent, they're willing to sacrifice them. i would, i mean, i would even go further there ideologically possess. that's why they cannot see other options or ideologically possessed people. and they're all interchangeable,
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aren't they? you know, it doesn't really matter which what leader it is they can be moved over to another country equipment. because with that we have a ruling class that, you know, they talk about diversity, but they're all exactly the same. they may look different, but they are all exactly as m. anthony is something that's already been mentioned. the program i think is really important, is that russia and countries that are remained friends and aligned with a friendly with it. they represent an alternative to the west and the west cannot accept that. they cannot accept that anyone else can do, do it better because the, the west is failing and that's why we have so many countries around the world that will not condemn russia for the, for the military operation and ukraine. go ahead, anthony. yes, that's correct. he said, i have to concur with what's written said say fall i, if you look at the situation regarding the media and sexy and the u. k. is absolutely impossible to have them. so if you are recording craig,
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it's actually the golf course. it's hopeless food. course we've had the situation where doesn't matter, which prime minister is empower whether it is or a strong civil list, strauser or a strength are becoming next. i don't just a book the book see on the train under course, but these big calls for general election and the u. k. i learn, behold the like the policy of going to exactly the same policy on the crane and russia. a disaster situation. and do they have are of the people of the kind? well, i shouldn't they have a referendum about what they want to and the war because i suspect a lot of them do. i'm sorry. yeah. ok. let me, let me go to los angeles here. a pie after everything we've seen, particularly since february 24th. is there any way going back? because, you know, there are these people, a lot of them are libertarians to,
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for some reason, think, you know, we just go back to the minutes, go chords, you know, that can be a point of reference. i mean, i think these people are all delusional. i think bridges have been cut, i think a deep chasm has created here, and there are countries like india, russia, china, that have no interest in going back to what was before because it didn't work for them. so why should they reconsidered? and on top of it, all of these western leaders with their smiles and dangling shiny little things in front of your face. they don't keep their word, actually, they lie a lot, go head by. i mean, there's no way to go back because there's been a far as, as far as the, the story line. certainly since, as early as 2008 with the global financial crisis with that permanently did was shift so much of the western middle class that had built over decades prior since the 2nd world war out of gear. and hence why you have homeless strewn across. otherwise, tony suburban laws, lawns across america,
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north america. i just so you know, that's why i mentioned earlier, the stakes are, are massive because the entire eurasian east and certainly the global south are on to the facade and are trying to circumvent what has been essentially trans atlantic economic hedge. a monic rule, a for quite a while, just quickly a note on tactics here regarding a russia 11000 sanctions have been applied against russia since february since the start of the war. if spectacularly boomerang, because you cannot sanction such a massive global energy provider without essentially collapsing your own brittle house of cards, fiscal house of cards, eventually the russian rouble is the strongest performing currency of 2022 out pacing what it was before. sanctions russians of earn $200000000000.00 and energy exports since february despite lock trade elsewhere like the east needs to really do some sober soul searching over what it's trying to do. it's, you know, matthew,
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it's one of the and, and i have to say and i up my, my road record about talking about the what would become this conflict and will, but that would conflict became i have to have that down almost perfectly except for one thing that pi mentioned i got the rubel thing completely wrong, because before february 24th, it was a soft currency. now it's a hard currency. amazing. yeah, no, absolutely. and, and i mean, if anything, it's driven a more nations of the multiple or alliance of eurasia into each other's arms and have they've named like china, india, russia, we've already been moving in towards a very strong brotherhood, have only double down now. and i mean, india is now buying what, 8 times more energy, 9 times more fertilizers from russia than they were the same time. last year. china, it's boomed, they've, they've made up for all of their losses to europe and put his has recently said as well, like if it's, if it's not, it's a, it's on you. the ball is in your court. all you have to do is turn on the chaps we're even willing to provide all of the energy you need and more through even
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turkey, if you want. they're still viability in parts of the, the north stream to that could supply the vital needs of european. so i think are getting massive exhaustion right now over the ukraine propaganda, and they only wants to provide this winter and beyond and have a life. that's what your average citizen wants. but russia and china and india are providing an actual method on how to actually do this competently and oh, we're running out of time. i mean, it's the chances to actually get on board with this and avoid world war 3, or at least avoid a dark age scenario in the west is, is on our, the west is on our trajectory of di, industrialization. and there seemed to be a lot of people on board with that. and again, nobody asked the people of europe if they would vote on such a thing. but that's what they're getting. we to talk a little bit more about how energy politics and green politics have become a perfect storm. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine staying with our team
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with so welcome back. across stock were all things are considered on peter labelle tremonti . we're discussing ukraine. ah, ah. okay, go back to anthony and more thing. it's really quite interesting to me how the conflict in ukraine is a dovetailed in with his new green deal that so many of the leads are pushing here that nobody gets to vote on by the way. nobody ever votes on this. okay. but the ukraine issue is a pivot for them to get this agenda on board because it's an emergency here, you know, i'm a green purse, i like nature and all of that, but anthy, could you explain to me, the bone headed nis of europeans saying, or does get it out, no more. russian gas,
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we don't want it. it's evil gas. okay. i mean, these people are not thinking pragmatically fine, you know, over years, new technologies, all that sites in fine. now they wanted, they really want a quick departure from this blowing up the pipelines north stream pushed it along here. i mean, i can't see a future of europe. have it having any kind of productivity with no cheap energy, anthony, how can you explain that? well, the reality is, from the previous possession with russia was that she assisting the green agenda. and now i think he's pushing it now. because economically, it just doesn't work. well, they all say pushing on the safe and dangerous nuclear power as an alternative to ship energy. so it's all a complete loss. it has to pay. and ninety's been austin, although in hungary i own going to have
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a referendum on sanctions against russia in the u. k, there is a campaign, so you have a referendum on the big neutral in the russia to you credit con. thanks. it's been completely no phone by literally all the mainstream media. so that's why we're up against the complete propaganda on this, on this issue. so, but i do think these things which are happening, you know, reversible because you look at what happened with kind of 19 vaccines agenda. i you check this up again. i'm sorry. may we're out of luck to hung on everything else. so i think these propagandists are quite capable of changing the agenda when i see that my cost are back with regard to the old i. they want to come out to be very well because russia will undoubtably
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come. i was a bit very well and the cycle west of the east will come out with a bad way. but, you know, be, say, the way i say, what does this actually mean? because these countries all a true pro by global as fast it interest and we say listen, the chinese recently i, what we need is a bit more democracy in the western european countries on it. because we're having policies which have approval from the update regarding this conflict in do you trying to, and russia and, you know, we need to bear in mind that russia was and both the 1st of the 2nd world was it wasn't that long ago that a number of members with the royal family were officially visiting russia to
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improve relations. i think it's not possible to go back showing there when, if you remember, we had the presser reagan and gorbachev agreements. we need people here go states like abilities like we have been, but some of them for shame, that's very much one thing with the i wish i wish i could agree with you about the political back to pine los angeles. the problem is, is that we have a leader now that it is ideologically possessed. they do not see other options. yeah. that's why i don't see any real liter coming out of the west because their ideology doesn't allow it. it's, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the history of catholicism. you know, once you have the savior, you know, you, you, then you, you know, and you can have someone follow, you know, we already found it. ok, this ideologies so frozen and pipe. if someone of satcher say we should
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sit down and negotiate, then you're just to put in propagandist and stooge. they painted this discursive themselves into this discursive corner. they can't find a way out and their material being is going to be degraded very, very quickly. i mean, the winter is starting, that's what i started out in my, my introduction. the consequences are going to be very great and not just for one winter for many winters. ahead. go ahead by. yeah, i mean the, there cards are limited as far as playing a. first of all the green movement you guys were referencing earlier for decades. what that has been is essentially the, the top power structure of the owners of the banks who are tied very closely. as matthew pitt can attest to the energy companies and have been for a well over a century. that's just sweeping propaganda. the green movement in large part has been a means for trying to get the rest of the world's attention deflected away from oil, natural gas and carbon. what are based fuels? because it is the monopoly or
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a perceived as the required monopoly of london, a swiss and new york banks, and yet, western and eurasia is assisting russia and its energy spine. while integrating, sweeping infrastructure growth is matthew is referencing earlier, russia and china will simply expedite the replacement of this 49 year old petra dollar reserve recycling standard. while the u. s. fed hikes, interest rates into a deep recession of the largest banks, manipulate fuel prices high enough to seemingly engineer trans atlantic stagflation . you really have to ask yourself like the propaganda on one hand i which answered who is referencing versus tactics on the other. it becomes very transparent to anybody who's sober and thinking and has any appreciation for history. what's happening in the west? it matthew in ear me, i guess you need, you definitely need an appreciation of history in this day and age because very few people seem to have it. it same. see, you know, you don't have to be einstein to figure out. well,
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europe became safe and prosperous because, oh, and then i just got it cheap energy. so the indians and the chinese and everybody else in the world saw this formula work during the entire post war period. and they want to emulate the europeans. i want to do it. that's fine. that's your choice. it's your craven choice. no one is cutting it off from you. you're cutting yourself off. so what people see this isn't it is patently mad. go ahead, matthew. it is patently mad. i mean, no creature in the bios for that we can see a willfully just commit suicide on their own. this is not something that ever really happens. and it seems like there has been in ideology as you've alluded soon, and i and has is. busy awesome, the point, there is a governing ideology, almost a pseudo religion, and it's a pseudo religion masquerading behind a form of scientific sociological theorizing that is truly ivory tower that posits that we can go back in time to a state of christine,
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a stasis. no change where we somehow live in equilibrium with unchanging nature, with technologies like windmills that we, it had used last in the 13th 14th centuries. it was fine then when we had less than a 1000000000 people, but today with 8000000 or more, that is not going to work. and the effects of trying to undercut the type of abundance and means of production, both in food as well as industrial base of that this requires is bloodcurdling. the unfortunate thing is that we once had a very viable pro capital creation ethic before i was born, which has been under attack. now, there were many, many decades and russians at russia tried in india, especially are really learning from what we used to do and seeing well why can't they simply use the model that made the west once great of industrial progress, leaping beyond the limits to growth by embracing new discoveries and applying it for the big needs of your society. that's what, that's what made us work. and we've, we've let that go now for decades by design. and we have
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a small window of opportunity to get it back, but it's a, it's again, it's a closing window. you know, anthony, when joe biden became president, and i think it was during his inaugural address. he said america have a foreign policy. the supports the middle class i'm that's not even a bad joke today. but in the reason i mentioned it in something that math you had to say is it, you know, you have the ration countries that are actually thinking about their middle class because a middle class for the ration countries is a relatively new phenomena. and it's something that makes their society's worth again, that you always say best practices borrow the best practices you know, europe did that in the postwar era building up middle class in the us as well. but they've abandoned that for ideology. and again, you know, one of the things i and i live here in moscow, the west is terrified of alternatives. alternative a conservative society society that has religious beliefs, all these things because most of the world looks at the west now. and bill wills
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are made about their woke ism in values and whatever these things they don't understand and i don't understand it. but what i, what i do see i reject it and i, i think i speak for the majority of the world. anthony. yes, i've been thinking she's pretty clear baffled between her various who come out of the work agenda and i see danger. there's been increasingly seen that russia is, i've got valleys, west west said go decreasing where you say, i know your point about the middle class. and so just the metal costs, basically allowing income people as well the 18th time. so maybe you can, you know, the best in countries look to walk up is in that country's best interest. so they've never been in the best interest of the u. k. should be both in the crating are completed on the vast majority countries in the world. not sanctioning russia
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that's involving several nights. so the wells population and lots of countries, even the ones have condemns russia in the day. and i've done a g deals, russia, we're just costing around the country. it's a long continuing with the sanctions and pouring money into a very corrupt ukrainian government, dep. it, you know, that i've worked with most country in the world. we were told by fighting for freedom and democracy that but they don't know how free no democracy i want to go to. i want to go to los angeles pie. i want to give you the last 30 seconds for getting up so early today. last 30 seconds got to you just quickly back to ukraine, the world bank declared a recently, the ukraine's economy will shrink to 8 times more than that of russia's. but again, as we've reiterated multiple times during the program, london, washington,
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brussels and television do not care. they'll throw the entirety of europe, certainly ukraine to be sacrificed, that arresting russian. and more importantly, why i'd or your asian economic integration and growth. okay, wonderful point to end on. i want to thank my guests in montreal where they and in los angeles, and i want to thank our viewers for watching a c r t. see you next time. remember, cross stuck with ah, ah, watch and it was a
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national z. m a a meeting with williams. sure. it's a you know, i'm not sure about.

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