tv Cross Talk RT October 31, 2022 10:30am-11:01am EDT
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ah, a hello and welcome to cross stock where all things are considered i'm funeral about . so does windermere, putin see his countries placing the world? at the recent meeting of the bow tie discussion group, he did is much and much more. he critique the west in its meal liberal ideology, and he made it clear. no one can sit out the coming storm facing be international system. ah,
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to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, martin j and mera cash. he's an award winning journalist, and commentator, and in budapest we have george samuel lee. he's a podcast at the gaggle which can be found on youtube and the locals. are gentlemen cross up rules. in fact, that means you can jump any time you want, and i would appreciate it. take care to start out with you in budapest, here before we talk about what vladimir putin had to say at the annual di discussion group, i was thinking as we started here, is it so much is commented about what, who has never said and, and very little is commented on what he actually says here. so that's my segue into his commentary. was very interesting commentary on the west and it's ideology, neoliberalism. and i think was also kind of a sermon on how the west is portrayed the enlightenment. you're absolutely right. it's because the way the media presented in speech was entirely
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a incorrect and misleading because you like to live the way it was me to say, oh, put in for threw down the gauntlet to the west, but it did not throw down any kind of a gauntlet because what he said is it, on the contrary, it is the west of the day that is out of swords with the rest of the world, the west in the grave of a neo liberal etiology. and he also made clear that this, the ology is here too largely by a kind of minority lead for that runs of the west. and that he's not actually in keeping with the values of the where. so i think as you say, license i said that this west is a, is, it goes against the traditional values of many societies around the world,
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and that it's a very, a hostile, aggressive. he used a neo imperial. it's ara insistence on imposing its values and its culture on the rest. and that is for those who do not adhere to this the neo liberal etiology, others subjected to sanctions on color revolutions whose and indeed bombs. and so he was saying low 0 if the wife wants to go down this path is going to find yourself increasingly isolated from the rest of the world. so it's, it's very much like russia is in the mainstream in the global mainstream. it is the last that is isolating itself. so it's the complete opposite from the, the way the western media presented his speech. and going back to throwing down the gauntlet. no read what he had to say. peaceful coexistence. that was the message
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also, you know, it's when let let you know that's the way you want to do things for your society. that's fine, but the rest of the world, they have other ideas here. and it's for me, it's kind of like a new oriental is ok because they, the west wants to say that it is abandon parallelism in colonialism and all these bad things from white people in here. but actually it's, it's being repaired. it's go ahead. yeah, it's been repackage, it's been remodeled. i so toussant was remarkably sympathetic to the west. it was early had this in this affection for all here and that he would have likes, you know, the whole thing to go in a different direction in the last few years since ninety's when. so the unit, but it didn't happen. and i think what i got from speech was a sort of a romanticism, a certain reflection on the old days and how europe in the west could have been so much more close to russia that they could have been almost done. they almost
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couldn't petite. the, the old empire, they don't call the imperial a western, it has this colonial history illness fitted the many, almost made the point, you know, that we didn't make a point that we are on the cusp, all the revolution. and that was revolution. i think resonates it, you know, because when you think of revolution, you tend to think of bloodshed, you tend to think of colonial power in the invading and poor countries and setting up the administrations and so forth. but that's not really what he's talking about . he's talking about a new world, which involves what it, we should really keep calling global south because it's so much more. it's just the rest of the world. it's just not you is the rest of the, the west, you know, the west doesn't take up such a great space as people like to think it does on the wealth. but the rest of the world is tired of this old novel and feel cheated. you know, i mean, i spend a lot of my career in africa. i spent a lot of my time talking to the economist,
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the professors who work behind government ministers, elena, constantly talk about this western model. america has that, you know, it comes in a offers financial assistant aid and trade usually doesn't work. and then you generate so level where countries to come so that they go to america on their hands and knees. and also, i'm afraid else. at this point, you're completely in america's pocket. you can't do anything. you can't breathe. you can't operate. you are basically a connie and they're tired of this. they've seen this. they've seen that this is disingenuous. this is this towel draped. you know distasteful ideology as just ruined them. and they've been looking for a new world order for an awful long time. but i had to say watching the speech of pitch in the couple things struck where i thought he was in remarkably good shape for a man who, according to western intelligent entities, is bushings last days. or if you want to believe british newspapers just 4 or 5 weeks ago, he was speculated he might be dead. and the only people we keep seeing, you know, out of a sort of doubles stunt doubles, you know, i mean,
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just the 2nd thing that struck me, i kept asking myself, i wonder how many western leaders could do that. we didn't, you know, and, you know, we skeptical journalists like me, we always think of those kind of commerce as a script. anyway, most people know the questions before that happens all over the world. there's no russia thing. i saw that for 11 years in brussels, but a lot of it seemed to me, it wasn't so scripted because he, his responses were pensive at times. and he actually even contradict himself a couple of times when you actually went through thought process. so it was very impressed with that, but you know, could how many leaders could do that 3, i could buy and even do the 3 minutes. i mean somebody would have to help by doing away from the podium only had only john, better been made by good. ready george, you know, we've already been in touch, but i think it's really important to say no one can sit out that coming storm. and
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what i took from that is that because the west is universalize, it's so called values. that's the storm that we're all going to have to confront. and no one can set it out because of this. i mean the we universalists, the attitude is messianic and it's dangerous. yes. no question. i think it's very instructive, really, to book and the speech and with the statement of jamie raskin, who was an important congressman in the united states, who essentially a holy war against russia. a because essentially he's now we'll have presented russia as the great satan. and that there is really no peace is possible, the great satan,
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no peaceful coexistence. this has to be a walk to the finish. and rescan is not an insignificant person in the united states. he's a very important congressman laid important role in the use of january. the 6th committee, and he speaks for a very substantial democrats, and the point is that this is now increasingly out the united states is a conflict with russia. and there isn't really any voice in the u. s. counter in that. and so therefore, it's really west that is now declared russia to be the enemy. why is russia the enemy? and i think russia is equal to the united states. but the russian is the leader of a global coalition that seeks to resist this western imperialism. the western
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etiology, lead west, and so old values, a russia as to what, what actually resistance you hit, and i don't know. i think that's what emerged from this conference. it wasn't, it was held in a new coalition of recalcitrant countries that were going to fight the west is just simply resistance is just on too many countries. a looking for some sort of leadership in the world, which opposes this usaa jet, had germany, which we put up for so long. and some of these countries really pay enormously the price for being part of so i think the word is resistance. i think. yeah, but to both of you, i think we can add on resistance to resistance as the resistance is because an alternative is being presented alternative that is not aggressively. it's not aggressive, you know, it's on my way or the highway. i mean, that's what this is what the, how the west is universalize it. but what we're, what we're all talking about is that there is an alternative and it can,
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we want to peacefully co exist with you as you go through your fever, georgia. yes, that's right. so that's what it's trying to do because what are the west is seeking is to impose its factors that can be no resistance to this. that can be no, i'm saying, well, we don't really go along with it. no, there was only one way to progress for all societies, and that's essentially what raskin was saying to just spelled it all out. and what would you like to watch? and we, and we heard this in the 20th century, from someone who really had really happened because raskin, you know, essentially sounded like people, the bolsheviks. and therefore, the, you know, that this is this, that we are the center of the global revolution. and he said, no, be resistance to the feminism, the resistance to gay rights resistance. every mode is nonsense, it's all center in moscow. that's well that we have to slay that. an essentially
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the most of the rest of the world is in level to say, these are, i do apologize for interrupting the program here without international crossing live to the un. now the un security council in new york by the ukrainian grain export deal is being discussed, this moscow's withdrawn from that. let's have a quick listen and now with the fish we can talk your overlooking the rules of procedure over the security council. only to the lack of experience and tiredness for them, the presidency, which is coming to an end to day, which are otherwise, by and large was a fairly successful one. mister president with did take note of the briefing provided by the president of the council of the international civil aviation ecole mr. summer torres. she as you get down on about the incident having to do with the
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landing of lee ryan air plane in minsk on the 23rd of may, 2021 for the picture painted of this event. and it says, supposedly objective investigation by any cow group is very far from what actually happened. we have every reason to believe that the process is so called fact finding. as regards sir, the event in actual fact of was nothing other than of a widely practiced settling of scores by western countries with a kind of retreat they dislike. and let me explain. look, let's start with a report submitted by the cow investigation team report to which was the basis of the recent assembly resolution condemning bella russell. there are many questions that could be put to this document or the kind of questions that some states prefer to pass over in silence. let's look at the facts. on the 31st of january,
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the cow cow, so discussed was discussed in the final as was stated at the time, the final report on the incident related to the ryan our flight. the group at the time, had reached a conclusion, them no escort or an interception of our, the ryan era flight by a bell russian a meg 29 did not take place. and the decision to landon men school was taken by the crew, independently, and of the russian guilt was not established. now, these conclusions could they a satisfied western countries, obviously not. the idea was to make sure the other port, the report political in nature. and this could be used to justify the unlawful restrictions against her delagarza rear in industry that they introduced using their majority in a cow, they forced the group to continue the investigation well as, as a result, the final report was anything but hi, not a result of consideration,
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the improved report to the account council took a completely different decision of this decision was condemning was done by the belgian dollars authorities and stated that an official, sir of bela bruce were had something to do with providing ryan air for the flight. we false information about the explosion threat. in other words, the carl counsel, emily repeated with the when your statements at the western countries are putting forward in may 2021. this is painfully similar to the story of investigating by o p c w. on the incident in duma in syria, on the summit of april 2018 at the time the initial report which showed there was no evidence that chemical weapons were used was it did not sit well with western countries. and then the final obviously w, a report was drafted and made to fit the conclusions about
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a syrian authorities participation in this show rami which was organized by the white helmets and the obvious facts which so showing that there was fraud the western countries and the direct general p, c, w is trying not to notice and that's why he, on demise a trust to the technical secretariat and o p c w as a whole civil lily. the improved report by ai, a group on the incident with ryan air of light, which is totally in contradiction with the initial one, gives resort to no trust. at some price, it is, hey, the now we have a new source in anonymous source, sir, which supposedly was an air traffic control control at then is now outside of bel, arose unverified, audio files are being used and the information given by valuation authorities, as simply being ignored many forget to that the group was not to find ways or
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condemning belly rooms, but establishing facts and finding were gaps in insuring air, flight safety. let me give one example. the report says that information about her a threads of explosion on board. i an airplane were read in some european your european states, 24 hours after they had been sent. what kind of for safety i were talking about here is that something that could be satisfied to air passengers. but instead of working on measures to rectify such an egregious situation, western states are only for some reason continuing leveling, accusations against the bill of russia side, you know, review what is important is that the republic, rebellious itself was perfectly transparent during investigation. no less your people, there was no double agenda, nothing was hidden. the air authorities accurately participated with carol provided or requested information, but such a good will approach was saw over no need to anyone because it didn't fit away the
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earlier prepared plans or western countries because they didn't wait for the outcome international investigation in even before those came late, came out, they decided to bounce over flights or rebell arose. band of belarus, air accompanies flying to european union and introduce unlawful restrictions against mints. in other words, a cow had only one goal to confirm the conclusions. the statements made by western capitals and on take her to this is something that happened, but a cow had to sacrifice it's authority with well, as a result of that, we have great doubts bow with the impartiality because because there was no objective, an open investigation of the ryanair situation, we can recall other similar situations and wonder what would be the reaction of international community to investigation if the investigation was about the forest
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landing all the president of bolivia, indiana, and 2013, all the landing in 2016 in key in key f over the beller as company belie via with light or the emergency landing, and berlin, berlin in may, 2021 of their self same ryan era company. our air flight, which was going from dublin to krakow, and which received information about an explosive on board with mister president williams. in october, they re drafted shit and a report which was made a fit to the initial fit. the initial accusations was approved by the 41st session over the assembly and the legal actions by, by the rules i qualify there as an egregious violation of the convention of internationals over the ation. this is not only unbiased, this is openly politicized. we regret that despite the a long standing reputation of a cow as a technical body is assembly was used as a platform to push forward the political interest of some countries filled with
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over all. everything that's happening in the organizations shows that it's very rapidly losing its ability to impartially and professionally dealing with the issues under its mandate, namely save an orderly development of international civil aviation. it is increasingly the case of the organization is acting to please and narrow group of interested to countries. this kind of behavior and inability to resolve civil litigation issues. as we can see, leads to the fact that such issues are discussed and not non specialized platform. the security council, instead of dealing with the topical issues of maintaining peace and security, the security council at once again needs to spend time on the intrigues of our former western partners against the countries. they don't like india. and this is on to which is not at his mandate and this intrigues at which according to the number of the
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e representative speaking to they are of greater concern to them that the route them the real plot problems that member states that are encountering. otherwise, it's very difficult to explain the 5 additional participants. your solution will be going in with more in this meeting and not a single one on the debates on the middle east settlement on the 28th of october and let them know this english cortex. we are convinced that international civilization on a cow should not become an instrument with which to exert with political pressure. it would be highly regrettable if a cow were to follow the slippery path of the technical secretary of the o. p. c. w, which is being rapidly politicized, and losing its independence. such a scenario would do irreparable damage to international corporation and civil aviation. i think you should have missed cielo, i think, the representative of the russian federation for his statement. i now get the floor to the representative of norway. thank you, president. for back to joining us here. we're not international. you were just watching the live feed from the united nations in new york. essentially,
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the man speaking was russia's deputy, you and ambassador dmitri polanski were expected, hopefully to have him talk a little bit later on in the afternoon as the un session drags on to talk about rushes, withdrawal from that of the ukrainian grain deal. and also more information about the ukranian drone attack on russian ships in crimea. for the meantime, he was just going on about an incident from may where a ryan aircraft was grounded in minutes after an alleged bomb threatened to journalists were then detained as a whole. nother story, which will have to address another time for the mean time though, back to our regularly scheduled program. what many a calling a stunning return. i left this candidate, louise ignacio little silva has been elected brazil's next president of the narrowly seeing off the right wing encumbered at yahoo, unable to nato, in a very close run off the former leader, secured victory by barely just up as one single percentage point. now that politically polarized south american nation was on edge until the very last minute
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when the results were announced. ah, the country is divided between those rejoicing and mood as victory and those lamenting both. and otto's loss is what some of the now new president supporters had to say is they awaited the official announcement left again, i think i went in a flu to seal them in hope. hope for better days. we hope that you will be happy again. the election, a ruler, the silver is the peep and the victory. it is create a lot of creep, but above all, it is justice lula presents just go. am i afraid of mueller? not taking office? yes, i am. but we have hope we are fighting until the end lula previously. so have 2 terms as president, that was up between 20032010 left office with a record record, high percentage approval rating of 87. then in 2017, his fortune's turn,
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he was imprisoned on a corruption conviction that was later ronald. although by that point he had already spent nearly 600 days behind bars. well, he could make hardships, certainly had been the number one concern for voters at the polls. the government struggling to contain price inflation and rising poverty. a boston auto, former military officer, served a single 4 year marked by covey and a pretty divisive environmental issues, particularly that of the deforestation of the amazon. earlier this year, lula da silva shared his views on the war and ukraine. he actually said that a president zalinski should i think more about the negotiation process a little to silver, also criticized zalinski for its frequent appearances. ana western tv what was the reason for the ukraine invasion natal than the u. s. and europe should have said, ukraine won't join nato that would have solve the problem. i don't know the president of ukraine, but his behavior is
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a bit weird. it seems like he's part of the spectacle. he's on television morning, noon and night. he's in the u. k. parliament, the german parliament, the french parliament, the italian parliament. as if you were waging a political campaign, he should be at the negotiating table. de las k is the 1st looks like as the 1st a leader, junior war, which is actually blame for social media. i mean, does a whole war situation it's, it's based on fake news as we know. and so for me to place like a key role and that there was already a few attempts right to do some deal to some are pacific solution and we know how much u. s. and you gay, forced to block this solutions and also internally, as we know at this point, we don't know any more how much to lensky has power in sy, in crane, and how much he's controlled by the extreme right wing by the masses in a grain. so it's a pretty difficult situation right now, because for russia, i mean, who are you going to negotiate with? i'm if,
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if it's not us and nato who actually are calling the shots. so at the end of the day, i mean, u. s. doesn't seem to be interested in up is full solution. s lula already announced. and he said this many times in the last weeks that he, if he went, he said, i want to try to make peace. and i want to try to push negotiations further. so this is also for us in the global south, the off expecting that lula as a, as a global leader as his he can step in and try to do more efforts together with china together with other countries like turkey and try to have a different solution from this war, because i mean, was profitable. this war is not real, kind of people is not russian people. i'm most likely as u. s. military and us for military complex and strategic interest of the white house. i lot of our fresh headlines coming to us here at the athena national headquarters here in the russian capital. appreciate you joining us. we got
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a whole new program set to go and approximately 3 minutes for only one main thing is important for knox. ism internationally speaking, that is, that nations allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the mind, the nations who are the slave americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this danger is boy man that wants to take over the world. that was a culture strategy was i'm booked out of it to a new one. i not leashed off in zebulon and tablet,
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block nato to it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous. is it the lie? the sovereignty of all the countries. the exceptionalism that america uses in its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nato, what is founded shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions, or is business and businesses good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion with watching a shorter one. and i'm not going to stay like a
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what i see the student both the little gear lation says decent it on both a solid headlines on out the international as moscow warns but un grow could a grain export deal is unlikely to remain feasible without roger's involvement. the question, the un security council meeting. busy for monday, following a large scale ukrainian drug at the head of the central buying says old time high inflation in the euro zone has come out of nowhere. but does say that russia should shoulder most of the play with the opiates government and the insurgents from the north and gray region to hold their highest level peaceful since a devastating civil war.
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