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the news hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things considered. i'm peter lavelle with only days before america's mid term elections. everything seems to be breaking in the direction of the republicans. this would seem to confirm this will truly be a change election and a solid defeat for joe biden. and the democrats, the country is deeply divided while these elections make things worse, the cross sucking the upcoming mid terms. i'm joined by my guess. jennifer reed in milwaukee. she's an attorney in cleveland. we have dentist who sent which he is a former presidential candidate and former congressman. and in las vegas, we cross the craig policy,
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john dula. he is an election integrity expert and co host of am wakeup and the convo couch are cross talk rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate dennis. let me go to you and cleveland. you're an old hand. this is not your 1st rodeo, obviously here. how do you see this? i mean, you can look at this as a realignment or just a reaction election, or a lot of other people like to call it a change election. how do you read the tea leaves? i think, you know, if i were to be asked to give some numbers, i think the republicans will probably end up with 229 seats in the house. so the democrats jordan 6, i think the senate will also go to the republicans, could be as much as $50.00 to $48.00. there is a, there's been a move towards republicans in their selection, principally because of inflation. their cost of basic foods, goods, and good to going up and people are finding it hard to reconcile with the party in power and of course, crime and of citizen other factor show i think, you know,
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you're going to see in their selection from, from the federal level to the state and even a county level. a move towards recovery. const it's pretty, it's the state and i don't see anything. it's gonna change that in the next few days. and jennifer, again, is this a rejection of the party in power, or is it the appeal of republican ideas? because, you know, if you watch cable tv, you can find whatever you want to confirm what you believe. okay? but how do you see it? is this a confirmation rejection? a new course, because as we're all told it, there's a lot at stake where they always say that go ahead jennifer? exactly. i actually think it's both. i think it's both a rejection of the current administration. the current uh regina current policies. it's a rejection and a new wave of voters. i mean, they're even seen in these trends. a lot of people that might have voted democrat before are now wanting to vote republican the numbers on that's why some of the
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numbers are looking higher than they thought. i think it's those because the majority of the voters know that there's something going on and he started to see this kind of hockey list as you will. the populace kind of rising up more freedoms more, more liberties, better gas prices, better food prices. all of those were happening under donald trump, who we were told was evil. and so you're seeing this rejection of the mainstream narratives and the narratives that are coming out of our white house and people are seen that even those that were not involved before in politics. we'll go to the polls because of their wallets. ok, craig, who is donald trump on the ballot, or is a joe biden? are both on the bow and how do you look at it? go ahead. oh, i think donald trump is definitely on the ballot. i think the majority of the conservatives in america are still moved towards the americo 1st party, which is the donald trump a party. they still look up to some of the things he was speaking at freedom speech, freedom of the press. and i think a lot those voters just like donald trump,
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who's kind of come to this consensus that we need to end the war and ukraine. i think a lot of their voters are moving their way to as well. joe biden. i don't know who really he appeals to at all, play storm shock that he got 81000000 votes. don't abide in bumper sticker or a t shirt out there and stuff. but i think the correlation that the democrats are hoping, and that's why they have obama back out there, is that they'll kind of relate that by didn't obama magic that that was once captured and hope really didn't produce anything except a victory. and i think that's what the democrats are hoping for again. yeah. well, you can transfer career. ok. i mean, i didn't like obama. i didn't like it was policies, but he was charismatic. i mean, you have to give credit where credit is due here. dennis, can you explain so i mean, because, you know, you've been around a lot in politics. i've never seen a sitting president so vicious towards half the electorate. i mean, i find it really remarkable. you have that kind of like mussolini speech
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a few months ago. and then in washington, i think in the last new cycle, it's very vicious against against the electorate. i mean, if you don't punch down and you don't insult the electra, but that's exactly what he's doing. why? well, let me say peter, that i have no job by 50 years and need a decent pan. but his handlers are, are hard nose partisans and i think they're encouraging him to take attack. that is unwise. and that will credit considerable amount of low back i, i believe it's in the interest of the people to have have our president reach out and always try to reconcile the opposite to the country. and you know, that's not happening. the polarization is increasing. so i, you know, i don't think that prisoner biden's on natural approach,
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but he sure is taking it. and i would say that in a way there are some symmetry between what, what's happening domestically in the hard line. it's being taken. as with the foreign policy of united states as well. okay. well, you know jennifer in donald trump was very dismissive. i mean, you know and denies that. ok, almost everyone has an opinion on the former president, but there was no slogan like, let's go brendan, i mean they didn't have that for trump, but they do have that for bite. and what does that tell you? i mean that the population has rejected this sort of rhetoric. i mean, it's easy to say that donald trump was, was device in some sense, but that's only because the media told us to believe that yes, i mean, he was upset, but the republican party has historically been the party that rolls over back and let the tax happen, we're not only censorship losing their jobs, losing friends,
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being called actual terrorists on, you know, being demonized, being weaponized for political reasons, losing, again, losing gainful employment. and so i think these kinds of things are what are, what essentially divide. i mean, if, if it's true in any way that donald trump started some sort of chasm within this, joe biden has exploded, that it made it worse. and i do agree that i don't think joe biden is running this dog and pony show. nobody thinks that because of the people that he's answering to, i mean, every day americans, you know, i live here and then that west, people know that there's something, it's not right here. there's something that doesn't add up. there's a section, there's a lot of the democratic party as not come out as a party of, of you know, social justice. they come out of a party that things on your door and violently throws it in your face until that happens. and that's what the voters are going with. i think that's the ultimate rejection of what's been going on. why the american people are going to flock so
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heavily to these polls? yeah, craig, one of the things you know, watching, you know, i have to watch. i miss and be see and seen and because it's part of my job i it's hardship pay, but i still do it. um, january 6th. and abortion is this is i really going to turn the trick here? no, it's not. and, and i'm with you peter being that we deconstruct the media on a regular basis. it's hard sometimes to watch this media. and there are just a completely controlled entity right now, pure propaganda. we have team sports across the board from this to party, allusion. the funny thing is that with the mainstream media, both emerson, c, cnn, or fox, is that they're trying their hardest to avoid 3rd parties and we see some 3rd parties actually getting on the stage. so i still think their media is consistent with their propaganda and their message, and that's to stay into the to party do awfully. but hopefully we can get some breakthroughs with this independent independent media out there. pushing for these
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3rd parties, including the libertarian party that's getting on the stage here and there. oh, able to talk about that anything i mean, this do operate that and i agree with craig. i mean i, i don't identify with the republican party at all 0. i'm a conservative, okay, and that's how i and, and i do balls and strikes if i like a policy if i don't like a policy. okay. and so, and i think more and more people are politically homeless. but when you look at the media, my god, it is really a, it is so aggressive it's, it's either you with us or against us and i think that's very unhealthy. go ahead, dennis. well, the larger problem is polarized thinking that takes place and in any culture, what happens in a country like america, where there's generally a free exchange of ideas or we hope there will be the polarity, causes people to start to differentiate, to discriminate as far as what their position as vs what they're hearing on
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television, you know, where i think we're in a confused time and time of chaos. and one of their is even order within k as the k . i said happening right now is driving people into, into this polarity. and i think it's, it's very dangerous. it doesn't serve our country. and because i have found and running for president twice, there is an underlying unity in america just to reach for. and if you don't reach for and you just say you're going to win by the dividing and conquering, i don't know. i don't know. i don't appreciate it. no participate in that approach . yeah, you know, jennifer, i mean going back to biden's rhetoric and conservatives of basically terrorists putting me on on the level of i'll kind a that will only make conservative people go out and vote more because you're insulting them. ok, you're, you're really insulting them and you're telling you you're a victim of wrong. you're wrong. think okay, i can. and joe biden,
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the energizes the conservative base jennifer, he does, you know, and i appreciate what's been said here because i think there is an underlying air of unity for many people in america. i, i know that and again, i'm not, you know, i haven't been a poster for ever or any time. i so i don't follow these trends historically, but one thing that i am seen right now is that, yes, we know that right now it's a republican versus democrat election coming up. but i think the reason that the republican numbers are winning is not because people want to join and get involved with a g o p or the republicans or whatever. and that we've seen that there's some people switching parties because that, but it's because need change and office and we need that unity and we're desperately craving for this election is becoming about ideals. it's not just conservatives that are angry about the rhetoric angry about being called terrorist . i mean, you can say all day long, but donald trump was maybe divisive in some ways,
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but he never jailed the media. he never let a raid on media or on his political opponents. he was never an office when any of this happening certainly never called most of the democratic party, or most a democratic voters, a, a terrorist organization or domestic terrorist. he never liken them to this. in fact, under donald trump, it was a hold that thought we got to go to a hard break. and after about hard break, we'll continue our discussion on, on the upcoming american midterm election state with ah, only 41 percent of us don't have enough savings to cover a $1000.00 emergency. we have record numbers of americans who are on the verge of having their cars repossess more than a 137000000 americans are facing financial hardship because of medical debt. in
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america, we do have a welfare system in place to help people who are stroke financially, but it's a conditional system. you have to prove to the government that you truly need help . the simplest way and like explain a basic income is that is like social security for the rest of us. a basic income would be a monthly payments that would go to everyone. does a $1000.00 a month, no strings attached to this i have i will. i mean, i don't know. i just will go crazy. the reason that i am a fan of guaranteed income because it is this idea that everybody is deserve it. and just virtue of your being here ah, with a suffered because we're getting them business and you cleaned with that was chosen. yeah. americans great. you. when you wrote it,
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you just go to it is just such an article and i see it on the web. you was just touching sure. ruckel was named octo for the difference. wonderful. which of wishing that you use her own the with them on the phone and you're still there with that was true. i wish you through with you as we are both in the study or something that was the choice thought it was for me to to one off on i thought it was jewish in the longer it bushes just in the solution . i pushed 2 to 3 people for the moment because or lose new or your course look you school course. i don't know who is for you. i know for the don't know if i should just to do with you used to play in finances, come all the us tooth with
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. welcome back. across like were all things are considered? i'm peter labelle, remind you were discussing the upcoming american mid term elections with okay, it's go back to i guess in las vegas, craig, i mean, if you watch fox news out there, chilling the champagne bottles, that's pretty sure you what will you watch prime time? there, but you know, i think that we have to go into the minutia here because look at the new republican candidates people we've never come across before doing very well in the polls against the incumbents that have been around for forever. okay, can't get carry lake. i was one that comes to mind. i mean what a fire brand and wow, okay, i'm, there's a new new breed of republican candidates here. and mitch mcconnell is, does not like these people here. so as they're chilling the bottles at fox,
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the civil war and the demo republican party is only just begun. go head greg yet and the they don't. these are establishment republicans don't like these grass roots. people at all. kevin mccarthy, and the way he's treated some of those grassroots people like laura luma and all those other america, 1st candidates just wisc aside, but you know, i think the, the underline the issue here is the fact that a lot of people still remember why they became a democrat and the 1st place, and this is just another c saw pendulum swing and they don't want to get fooled again. they remember the help america vote act and the patriot act in the iraq war all and a republican president. so i mean, at the end of the day, i still think people going to be seeking some other options. i do agree with my other guest here. this is some scary times. it doesn't seem like anybody wants to unite. no, let alone joe biden, with that mussolini speech we talked about. it seems to be more divisive, but i guess that's the game that's going out there right now. so i would 2 thirds of the voters in america have 0 to
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a little confidence in these elections. i think it's going to produce a lot of different results than just simply republican and democrat, democrat, the selection time. yeah. dennis, when, when makes it really a scary time, is that you have this lessening faith in the democratic process in the electoral process. i mean with the, the left wing now he's talking about election denial and all of this, i mean what the, the biggest mistake coming out of 2020 is to where it was to just shove aside the concerns had some people had, you know, was there fraud well, it was never really investigated. okay. maybe everything was hunky dory. maybe it wasn't. but i mean, just brushing that aside, really insulting to a lot of people that did maybe had legitimate concerns. i'm not going to say they were legitimate or illegitimate, but just brushing aside worries a lot of people about it, particularly there's so much mailing going going on. what are your thoughts on that? because you've been through a lot of campaigns. go ahead dennis. i have been through more camp page and most
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people would believe what i'll tell you this is it is not unusual to see the kind of games that are played in american elections at all levels. and, and voters have a right to be concerned that their votes are counted, that they count that, that there is no interference in election process. but it is a fact of life here in america that such parents does happen. whether it's the benefit of the democrats or the, or the republicans, and in the election, integrity ought to be an issue. now, you know, the paradox in america is when you don't like someone, and they happen to get elected. how do you close ranks behind whoever the president is? and this is something that al gore showed the nation the direction in 2000 when he lost it in the supreme court. and, and george w bush became president. gore could have raged, you know, unholy,
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created a situation where there's been a huge table is ation in the government. but he chose to take a different path and that path of trying to seek for cohesion. and unity is a very important thing in america. so whether a democratic, selected or republican are selected or to future some other party, we have to realize that while we make a stand for election integrity and we have to do that, well, the elections in process of also being counted when, when somebody is declared the winner whether we like it or not, we have to find a way to to move forward as a nation. we're having trouble with that right now. yeah. and jennifer, well another thing we're having trouble with and i and i look at both sides of the equation of this. it's very dangerous when your politics gets found to a purity test. ok. and i think that's very dangerous because it doesn't allow nuances and slight differences of opinion, and it cuts out on a big tent. ok. there's purity tests that i see so much in the media really
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terrifies me because no one is pure. ok jennifer, go ahead. well, exactly, and that's the worst part, i mean, the complete infringement upon freedom of speech, but of conscience of thought of diversion of opinions. i mean that's what i think the people are seeing. the truth is the midterm elections really are a, there are cause there a call to unleash, to unleash the voters against the establishment. and that's in both parties. jeff. yes, the vast majority of anti establishment and anti establishment in america. first candidates are running as republicans. that's the way our system works right now, especially throughout the different states. so the vast majority of these anti establishment american 1st candidates are republican. they're running as republican, that's why there's going to be a republican wave. but this is a, this is a show of that the fact that the american people are done with the establishment when it comes to election integrity, there are many people i know that are,
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are concerned about that. voters are concerned even voters that were americans that were afraid to come out with this with their opinions about the 2020 election are now seen that way. this doesn't make sense. we're looking at numbers. how could this happen? joe biden got that over 10000000 more votes than brock obama, his crime and his peak. i mean, that doesn't make much sense as, as to what's going on. and i think it's unfair to compare the al gore, gore and bush situation to what happened in 2020, because in bush v gore. i mean we're talking about the constitutional interpretation of one state law. wherein the where, where and, you know, certification was, will be in question and the supreme court of the united states ruled on that. so went through the legal process. here you had people watching a very, very normal flow of an election in their states in several states. and then a 3 and suddenly 84550000 ballots are dropped to 99 percent of which are for joe
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biden. people had questions. i think those questions are legitimate and should be asked, especially since for 4 years, half of america gets shouting and screaming that hillary clinton was the right president. and so i think it's unfair this, this 2 tiered system of justice, this t tiered system of who is allowed to say, what in what you're allowed to say. it's not america, it's not who we are. and that's why these elections are important. you know, craig, you know, again, you know, it, we've all been looking at the poles and i'll even go further. i mean, considering the dismal polling that we've had over the last few years, every time i see a pole, i give the republican 3 more points. ok, i think that's it, that's fair to do, considering how bad they've been over the years here. but let's say that they get the victory, that it's possible that the polls are saying, is a country going to be any less divided? that answer is, ah, no, i'm saying i like it. i just want to push back on the fact that the democrats have
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anything anti establishment in their party. first of all, the grass roots of the democrats have now join hands walk, walking locks that with the establishment. democrats, in fact, the, our revolution organization that was started to fund and promote grass roots, candidates to fight against establishment as now, endorsing all establishment. but at the end of the day to as well when it does come to this election cycle. if we do get these republicans in here, a lot of the graduates republicans were already wished away in their primaries and they thought that process was unfair. and with, with a system that is even worse than it was in 2020. in other words, a lot of the laws they implemented for these elections that were already a wonky system like dropboxes and mail it mass mailings there implemented. so at the end of the day, i think we're going to see a country even more divided whether or not more republicans get in or not. so, or did he say address that because you know, you know, i'm sure this could be a change election, but what will change?
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i mean, i'm very cynical because, you know, the republicans can win elections, but it always is the left that determines the agenda. it that, that match the pattern that i see here, even when donald trump was president, even when they had the majorities in both houses, it was still a very much a democratically driven agenda. then he said, what, what does it mean for victory, for the republicans here? what is the agenda? because we see what people are rejecting, but what are they embracing? go ahead dennis. yeah, you know where i, where i started, this discussion was practical aspirations, american people today relate to economic and security, their own families, personal security. and when you see the cost of red going through the rough meat and, and other staples of the american diet, people are very concerned about that. and they're going to respond. it says, balance, crime and her cities as substantial and really violent,
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why americans will respond to that is what i just want to change. i. i don't think that the american people are especially ideological and will people within both parties wish id allergies. when you might do election, when you, when you govern, you must govern pragmatically. and anytime you see governance be propelled by ideology without connecting to people's practical aspirations, you're going to see a disaster. i think, i think that's probably the best explanation. i have heard in a very long time because because not everyone is ideological. people in the media certainly are very ideological and they want everyone else to think like they do. all right, you know, i have done 40 programs over the last 9 months on ukraine is is 1st my 1st break. ok. so jennifer is ukraine on the ballot this year? i think it's one of many things on the balance to be clear. there is
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a distinction between the gnc political pundits and american citizens who are voted democrat. those are the ones that are voting and stablish, but i think many will be voting republican this year. of course ukraine is one of the many issues on the ballot, but it is because yes it was, it was big for a while here and i'm talking about again, i'm speaking from the midwest. i know one of my other colleagues here is also in the midwest, but especially in wisconsin and some other places. i know i have friends all over the country where all this was a big issue. now we're kind of, we're kind of over it not seen as much and then we started to get angry because every other day, we're seeing one more $1000000000.00 here. 1000000000 dollars, 100000000000 dollars. $50000000000.00 right here. let me, let me ask my other, let me ask where they're going to, what do you think that he says that on the bow it real quickly and i want to go to craig. i'd not per se, except that people are becoming increasingly concerned about where our country is taking us in terms of, of nuclear policies. and that's something i'd person concerned about. i think
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america, any other nation, jeff, to just swear off and he for strike policy. and it's particularly a concern of mine in my let me, let me ask cranky or is it on the ballot? no, it's foreign policy in both parties. and most americans unfortunately have foreign policy down the rabbit hole when it's not an issue that's right in your face. all right i, we, i, i have our proposition before we end the program. let's reconvene in a weeks time. if we could do a post mortem, give it a thought mike, producer will contact you as all the time we have. i want to thank my guest, milwaukee cleveland and in las vegas and what i think my viewers for watching us here at our pc unix. i'm remember across like in good news for when that equipment went to one blog post. that's mature. i was
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