the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rift to comprehend a white gun, been stormed into a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these people were in church. they were in church. what do we know about this man is and what is motivation may have been said, are you rape our graham in a you taken over our country and you have to go shortly after dylan roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate harriet sites in with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited

a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder, of racism from hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this killer. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a gut check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling the items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless last few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well. no nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they told us got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel. pastor clemente pinkney over the flag from the states cap would not be an act of

political correctness. they were not in thoughts of the balance of the federal. so need me to send me an acknowledgement that the pause for which they fought in the call of slavery. with 2 weeks later, the flag came down in south carolina. name is to say fi, i get getting a lot of attention as all because of this, the ref, old banner rehab, which are ours to make. you know, i'm not go live here. you care about me if you care about the play, everything. and as far as the story in civil 60, do you think the confederate flag of the fed? as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets their hair. our government is sanctioning the chosen symbol of a terrorist organization on our state far. i love 7 or i love the in the southern

bell. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i. my problem is the safe place to where they ever want in not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us because mississippians that we should change and we're not gonna change. you know, i don't live here with our with

me. i was born and raised in the north in my irish great great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer in the union army. but i married a mississippi and, and of course we live here. now the main street in the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner. and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. he was elected president of the confederacy. ah, there is another jeff davis avenue, a short drive away. and jefferson davis, his home, and presidential library is just up the highway. like many mississippi counties, our court house as a monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew the stake flag in their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes,

in mississippi remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi said people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family on both sides union and confederate, but if somebody blaine left something elaine right, or elaine's out, we won't be able to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this rise that we made, ah,

i appreciate you being here. and now i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you are present both sides on positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all. i assured him every one else i spoke to in the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. mister bate. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us. ah,

[000:00:00;00] a sons of confederate veterans purposes, not to defend confederate government or purposes to defend the good name of the confederate soldier. with that you take, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere or not, can there not monuments to the better government there monuments to them, to the soldiers, to the veterans. most of the came back terribly wanted ah,

ah said pad that those men were masters of some sort and that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course, for me it fascinated with mississippi history in particular because the census and 1840 i think is 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh in any more than 20 years. that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. oh, you know, that's a, that's how we got here was these people were determined to live.

rub over the same dna a not only which reward anus any, pardon for anything, not done. look, this state flag issue. never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened on june the 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and you know those people it was a human being that did that not a fly. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open. it are, does something with the concussion?

every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying the us flag. why not be offended because of that flag? you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. so if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you could get money and power, you know, if you kill a decent franchise,

people it's like plain and simple. always knew what the confederate emblem made to us as an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant to hatred, lynchings, beating poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i leave it. ah,

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a a a flag ship is really a serious deposition and you have to look beyond that. something's all just the red, but it's not just the way it represents. inequality represents

hatred. and a flag was always present like it was. it's out your land. when those math people were instantly shot, we got a flag reference is a level well i guess. oh, good deal,

a whole lot. oh sons of confederate veterans and members of the k k k. i say that they are christian. i just it is my hope in my desire that god will push them to put tre. christine, how do you change the heart of man? la la la, may not change my house of man. you can and a dog chamber habits of men. during your begun, i have a 2 men who so we are at home, who do j for this foam law will be june. my mother, she fell for welfare rights for women. they holster down with hoses. she still had the bite marks on her leg from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like

to know this, my mom, why, why? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was appalling when the news came on about the shootings. mama say they don't make no. if i stood up, you went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights. y'all better do something and wish you say a gal better do something. we do something. i'm the director of, of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flay. it's gonna be hard,

but is 9 impasse. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for oh, ah grace and mercy. because you need a whole lot more than you had a bigger march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that were unified. everyone in, not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons, it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and leah campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast. for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and

a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. and then the sitting in charleston happened and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan roof posing with the confederate flag and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley has the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house. ground it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the

same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul attendee right now. with do you think it makes them feel when they ever and where those her that flag is flying? what are we on there? miss day is better than that. with with this wasn't the

1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 993. the n double a c p to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit leather, the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag. and in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum. asking voter to choose between 2 flags, the current flag at the time which had been adopted in $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering. at this time, voters will decide if the confederates symbol will follow the flag of 18941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a

flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution, the civil war had ended 30 years earlier. and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation, and newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from to 9 a citizen, the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them. in other convention, delegates confirmed this notion

in mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively prevented generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later, it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah . back on the flag trade, the player or the flags all over the street. you know, because i got the, the horizontal lambs hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag. so i'm a true blooded, southern myth, mississippi southern land. right. and, and, and accepted. and i are relishing it because that's who i am. that's who i, where my family has came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi

before it even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather. he fought in the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's conferred veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about route. normally some kind of confederate organization is because of what's going on in the country. the maneesha it's but people discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us or, or mom is currently engaged in southern they accuse us of all be in races, you know. and it's a fan of a 1000000000 is what the flag means to a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know a got to the point that is today. we're tommy. why say that played out america

seems take a tape person. mm hm. what is referred to as a confederate flag? graphically, it is done however, you can separate it from all that it is stood for. i'm in a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people just had no hesitancy whatsoever. we're at a moment where we can do this right and well and respectfully drawn bought. i don't like name coins. i don't like rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a fred and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think in all right. now we need something new. it began with

a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research. a flag really is a living symbol and document and piece of art that they're 19 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was a us senate and i, he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design, known as this dentist flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state

representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the stanish flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94 with everything is changing and one of the elements of this picture is to disperse the attack of the west or counter a check to stop the duration of their positions. they decided to concentrate on russia and their real aim is of course, saving the 500 years of their domination and the mid intermediate aliases on demand chain of,

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internationally speaking to that is that nations, because that's allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nations who are the slaves. americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this danger is go you man, that wants to take over the world. that was a contract strategy. so some of it on your own, i not leashed off in zebulon. in tablet block. nato said it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous. is it the by the sovereignty of the countries? the exceptionalism that america uses and its international war planning is one of

the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nato, what disbanded shareholders in united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions or is business and business is good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion with these are the consequences of yet another howard hillary, a strike by ukraine against residential areas. this house was reduced to rubble arcade visits. one of the residential areas targeted in the latest attacks by the cranium forces, or people are reportedly injured during saturday, shelling of done that with and in the story that shape the weak russia rejoins the grain export deal. as ukraine promises it won't use the humanitarian quarter for