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a one with the other to the emergency aid it it'd be push bad to police and some by the way, the way the manual charge, a manual there would be 110, go on. and there's people thought, the chat the path with all of the amended please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young gwendoline, a white dude. mm. a shooter, multiple people down. what happened at the mother of manual and the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun, been stormed into

a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these people were in church. yeah, we're in church. what do we know about? oh, this man is, and what is motivation may have been said, you rape our women and you taken over our country and you have to go shortly after dylan rufe was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate hair insights and with confederate flags. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain more than its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder of racism and hatred. and it is clearly

a symbol of this killer. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a lonely for society, get a really do a get check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. in less last few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well. no. even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism that y'all has got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney moving the flag from the state. capital would not be an act of political correctness, not in salts, of the ballon confederate sold me simply me an acknowledgement

that the cause for which they fought the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later the flag came down and south carolina. oh, this is a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this, the ref, old banner rehab, which are good me. you know, i'm not going to you care about me. if you care about this bridge, the story is simple. fix take, do you think the confederate flag at the fed? as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets, there are government as sanctioning that shows and symbol of a terrorist organization on our state. far, i love the seminar, i love the southern bail. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight.

i. my problem is the safe place to with everyone in not a time in peace. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us as mississippians that we should change. we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor manager here to know business with, standing in line with our with i was born and raised in the north or my irish. great great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married a mississippian,

and of course we lived here now in the main street. the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away me and jefferson davis's home and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi county's our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew with the state flag and their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil

war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable to tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family hold on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane laugh, some people lane, right? well, i'll find out we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this drives that we made

i appreciate you being here, and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you present both sides positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. mr. bate. and i wasn't to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag, whose purpose should be to unite us, me ah, ah, ah,

me. the sons of confederate veterans purposes, not defend confederate, govern our purposes, to defend the good name of the confederate soldier. unless the that you take, which i take very seriously, because these monuments that you see everywhere or not, can they not monuments to the better government there monuments to the, to the soldiers, to the veterans. most of the came back terribly wanted ah, did those men or masters of some sort and there's not truth and i can't just sit there while that story gets told this. i know it's not true. of course for me.

and fascinated with mississippi history in particular, because the census and 1840 i think is the 1st one. everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and. and then within 20 years of that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, you know, that's ah, that's how we got here was a forward trailer to live robin or a band are only which reward anus any, pardon for anything are done?

look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened on june the 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew. hans delays came down that po walked in. that church will hear those people. it was a human being that did that not a fly. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth. open air da does something. what the concussion? every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how fibrous was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of

this one organisation marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue. in washington, d. c. and they're only flying the u. s. y again. why not be offended? because if that's what you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. oh, well if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based, own money and power in the only way you could get money in power here in the south is if you kill a decent franchise, people you slade, plain and simple. always new would do. confederate emblem

meant to us as an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant to catering lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambler? i feel that way because i leave it ah needs to come to the russian state. little never. i've stayed as i'm phoning. no slam. steve asked him knocking host also send up with within the 55 when. okay, so mine is provided speaking with we will ban in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machines. the state on russia today and sport ortiz, fort neck,

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somebody with a robot most protective own existence with ah ah, ah, a ship is really a series and you have to look for something or just the red. but it's not just the way it represents. inequality represents hatred. and a flag was always present like it was in south carolina. when those people were innocently

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funds of confederate batteries. and members of the k k, k say that they are christians. i just, it is my hope in my desire that god will touch them to portray christine and how do you change the heart of a man? whoa. may not a habits of men. when you are begun, a law will be june. my mother, she fell for welfare rights for women. they holster down with hoses. she still had the bite marks on her leg from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like to know there's my mamma. why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her?

it was appalling when the news came on about the shooting. mamma say they don't make no yeah, i stood up and went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights. y'all better do something. and when she say a yell, better do something. we did something. i'm the director of, of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our state flay. it's gonna be hard, but it's not in past. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for grace and mercy

because you need a whole lot more than 200 people. march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change and the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and leah campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle

a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i grew up in the sound so i didn't have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. then li shooting and charleston happened. and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan raised posing with the confederate flag and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh,

so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul. right now. a do you think it makes them feel when they everywhere lays her? that flag is flying, and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no. mm ah. this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons.

with that lawsuit whether the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering at this time. voters will decide if the confederate symbol will phone the flag of 18. 941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier,

and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black and reconstruction was over. and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation, and a newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from the 9 us citizen, the right to vote based on race. and let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them in other convention. delegates confirmed this notion. mm hm. mississippi's constitution of $1890.00 included a poll tax and

a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah, back all this by flag trade, the federal put the flags all over this jury. and i got a lamps hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag, so i'm a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern man and, and accepted. and i are relishing because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is, came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i am

a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather and the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a confirmed veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about doing some kind of a confederate organization is because of what's going on in the country. discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us or what about discrimination against others? they accuse us of all being rice's, you know, and it's a fan of a 1000000 is what the play mean. so a lot of people and that's why i like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today, where anytime i say that played out a magnet, things take a tape with what

is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically, it's done however, you can separate it from all that it is still for a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people have no evidence whatsoever. we're at a moment we're we can do this right and well and respectfully, fraud involved. i don't like name calling. i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time is passed and they come along, i think. and right now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that there $900.00 stars along the

outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose a color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was an u. s. senate and i. he was one of the co authors and signers at the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as the stennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes. who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the stanish

flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94. ah, mobile, is this the best of both? not issued by more than the one you vision. annual g d. p per capita is about $4000.00 euros. a normal dollar, a watch. dish lea, a primary coffee seal group us really into put them in your printers where you find them all belong to come out, see nature little thought they would have thought of unemployment is off the charts . moldova territorial integrity and sovereignty. we respect a country which enjoys financial support from the u. s. and the u is constantly

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