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but it'd be push me to please and some by the way, the way the manual charge, a manual. there'd be one time. go on. and there's people thought, yeah, the chat the past, like if you had all of the medicaid please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young gwendoline, a white dude. mm. a shooter, multiple people down. what happened at the mother of manual and the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun, been stormed into a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these people weren't church church. what do we know about? oh, this man is and what is motivation may have been your rape, our women,

and you taken over our country and you have to go shortly after dylan rufe was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line with dozens of images, posing that confederate hair insights and with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder of racism and hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag through others eyes. you know, at the moment for society to really do a gut check of our values,

corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling the items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless last few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well. you know, even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they tell us got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney moving the flag from the state. capital would not be an act of political correctness, not in salt to the balin confederate sold me, assembly me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought. mm. the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later,

the flag came down in south carolina. oh, this is a flag is getting a lot of attention as all because of this, the revel. banner rehab with your art for me. you know, i'm not going to you care about me. if you care about this sportage, the story is supposed to stay. do you think the confederate flag of the, as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets their hair, for our government is sanctioning the chosen symbol of a terrorist organization. on our state far. i love the 7 there. i love the in the southern veil. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i. my problem is the safe place to where the, even one in, not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us because

mississippians that we should change, we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor a i was born and raised in the north or my irish. great great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married a mississippian, and of course we live here now in the main street. the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis,

a mississippi plantation owner, and u. s. senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory, and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away me and jefferson davis, his home in presidential library, is just up the highway like many mississippi counties. our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers and some of our neighbors flew the stake flag in their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be

a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate better. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family called on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane laugh, some people lane, right? well, i lean out, we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this drives that we made the day i appreciate you being here, and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you present both positive manner and, and let people make their mind that for themselves,

i understood that confederate harris, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions, i am a yankee, after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside mister date. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us, me ah ah me.

the sons of confederate veterans purposes not defend confederate govern purposes, to defend a good name of the confederates told him that you take which i take very seriously because of these monuments that you see everywhere or not. can they not monuments, to the better government their monuments, to the, to the soldiers, to the veterans? most of them came back terribly wanted ah replied that those men were masters of some sort and that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told this. i know it's not true. of course for me. fascinated with mississippi history and particularly because the census and 1840, i think the 1st one, everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no anywhere and they were

coming to absolutely raleigh and. and then within 20 years of that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, you know, that's ah, that's how we got here was these people were determined to live with her again, her only wish reward anus any, pardon for anything are done flip this state flag if she never would have been brought back up. if it wasn't for what happened on june the 17 in charleston, south carolina,

they want you to believe that that flag grew. hans delays came down that po walked in that church and here those people. it was a human being that did that, not a fly. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth. open air dog does something with the concussion. every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we want to talk about dark parts. you know, we can mention how fibrous was brought in under the u. s. black. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue. in washington d. c. and they're only flying the u. s. y again. why not be offended?

because of that's like, you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything out. mm hm. if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you could get money in power here is if you kill a decent franchise, people enslaved plain and simple always knew what the confederate emblem made to us is an african americans, but what can you tell me what it always meant to hatred, lynchings, beatings, poverty,

why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i leave it l look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such short or is it conflict with the 1st law? show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. at the point obviously, is a truck rather than a take on various job with artificial intelligence, real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with

good. they all need to be i'm so glad they ship african. what is the best time to go about them? this is a little bit of it said to there's no sort of legal obligation. the lady, no good. it is really what i say school of a car wasn't report backwards, but something, something that might give me a port carteret, the stablish of roughly what really a conditional krinski picks data, which it said to jeff, i mean you can even down can be coma, loosened up and vehicle or somebody mp community that they've got a result, like it's supposed to start out like you sort of affect it door only out of them to i did need it with us. that's clear but, but that was the routing just spoken to me, right. nobody for you with this looking at them during

the summer because i've met with kathy so much for them. we're. can i love career? will it was, it was the case was up and then you paid us over for you will go that they should. i see it appears to notice the she come from that were still a when of, of 11. i think it's an opposite. mm hm . in a state, this is hope blair issue is really a serious, serious issue and you have to look young. something's always just the red. but it's not just re

a hatred. and a flag was always present like it was just after. when those people were shot, we got a a

phones of confederate batteries, and members of the k, k k. i say that they are christians and just it is my hope in mind is that god will push them to put tre. christine, how do you change the heart of a man? you? well, the law may not change most of men in a dutch chamber habits of men. when you're begun returned by habit to men who it is only added, who did jane. for the phone off will be june. my mother, she awful welfare rights for women. they holstered down with hoses. she still held the bite marks owner laid from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was blight

. to notice my mamma, why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was appalling when the news came on about the shooting. mamma say that they don't make no. if i stood up and went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights, ya better do something. and when she say a yell, better do something. we do something. i am the director of of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flay. it's gonna be hard,

but it's not in past. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for grace and mercy. because you need a whole lot. oh more than 200 people march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change and the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone. not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and lee a campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as

a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i didn't have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. and then li, shooting and charleston happen. and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan raised posing with the confederate flag and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our

legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul. right now. in america. do you think it makes them feel when they everywhere lays her that flag is flying? what does that face, and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no. mm ah. this wasn't the

1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. with that lawsuit whether the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering at this time. voters will decide if the confederate symbol will follow the flag of 18. 941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a

flag of 18. 94 was adopted just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black and reconstruction was over. and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation, and a newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from the 9 us citizen, the right to vote based on race. and let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them in other convention. delegates confirmed this notion. mm

hm. mississippi's constitution of $1890.00 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah, back all this by flag trade, the federal put the flags all over this jury. and i got the horizontal limbs hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag, so i'm a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern man and, and accepted. and i are relishing because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is,

came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather and the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my sons confirm, veteran certificate. what really got me just about doing some kind of a better organization is because of what's going on in the country discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us or what about discrimination against others? they accuse us of all being rices, you know, and it's a fan of a 1000000 is what the flag means, a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know,

a got to the point that is today. we're anytime i say that played out a magnet, things take it personally with what is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically it's done however, you can separate it from all that it is still for an a negative sense. i'm glad for us to have a symbol about which people had no evidence whatsoever. we're adamant we're we can do this right and well and respectfully draw involved. i don't like name callings, i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time is passed and they come along, i think. and right now we need something new. it began with

a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that there $900.00 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history and our story. when of course, my grandfather was an us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flagged design known as

this dennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the status flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 894. ah ah, that everything is changed and one of the elements of this picture is the desperate, the attack of the west or counter a check to stop the duration of their positions. they decided to concentrate on russia and their real aim is, of course, saving their 500 years of their domination and the emitter intermediate. a system to maintain a domain, china,

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