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a moment what happened at the mother emmanuel and the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015 with all most to her rhetoric to comprehend a white gun then stormed into a bible study 9 church members die right before god another word church church. what do we know about who this man is and what is motivation? you rape our women and you taken over our country, you have to go shortly after dylan roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted online, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate heritage sites in with confederate flags. me now, the focus of the nations outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain more than its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs heart

hulu. the backlash was swift. terrific. shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become assembled, a murder of racism and hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this killer. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy. seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society get a really do a get check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless last few minutes amazon just pull the flag as well. you know, even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they just got a special offer for race fan, so we can trade in your confederate flag for an american. one. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel. pastor

clemente pinkney over the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness would not be in salt to the baron. confederates sold me simply me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later the flag came down in south carolina. oh, that's a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this, the revel. banner rehab, charged me. you know, i'm not gonna tell you care about me if you care about to play it. hopefully. and this brings us to roy, who's supposed pick stay, do you think the confederate flag of the, as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me this sets their

hara, our government is sanctioning the chosen symbol of a terrorist organization. on our state far, i love the seminar. i love the in the southern bell. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i. my problem is the safe place to whip the, even one in not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to fill us as mississippians that we should change. we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor a standing in line with our with

i was born and raised in the north. ah, my irish great, great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer in the union army. i married a mississippian and of course we live here now in the main street. the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner, and u. s. senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory, and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue, a short drive away. and jefferson davis is home, and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi counties. our court house has a monument to confederate soldiers in some of our neighbors. when the states flag

in their yards something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi. people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame. okay, my name is tim with you, but i'm a member of the thunder confederate better. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane laugh, some people lane, right? well, i lean out,

we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this drives that we made the day i appreciate you being here, and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you present both sides positive manner and, and let people make their mind up for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like him, might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all. i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside mister date, and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us, me

ah ah me. the signs of confederate veterans purposes, not defend confederate, govern our purposes, to defend the good name and confederates told him that you take which i take very seriously because these monuments dtc everywhere or not can but they're not monuments to the better government. they're monuments to the, to the soldiers, to the veteran, most of the came back terribly wanted ah,

you supplied that those men were masters of some sort and that is not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course for made it fascinated with mississippi history in particular, because the census in $1840.00 i think is 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years out. everybody don't know people anywhere and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and anyone there 20 years of that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. oh you know that's a that's how we got here was a ford turlock to live room

over the sanction. do not be a bad oregon. oh only which was a study pardon for anything not done look, this state flag is she never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened on june 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew, hey, angela came down that paul walked in that church and you know, those people it was a human being that did that. not a flag open your mouth, open your mouth. oh. 7 we

keep them your mouth open, it does something with the concussion. every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying the u. s. flag. why not be offended because of that black. you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. so if you say you're fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you could get money in power here is if you

kill a decent franchise, people in plain and simple always knew what the confederate emblem made to us is african americans, but what can you tell me what it always meant to patron lynchings beating poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i leave it ah . a

with only one main thing is important for not as an internationally speaking, that is, that nation's thoughts are allowed to do anything. all the mazda races, and then you have the minor nations who are the slaves. americans, brock, obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law will exist as long as it search the market interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this. danger is boy a man that wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy. says i'm booked out of it on your own. i not leashed it off. tim. zip on and tablet block nato to it's out. we move east and the reason us head germany is so dangerous, is it the lie?

the sovereignty of all the countries, the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nato, what is founded shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large obs companies would lose millions and millions wars business and businesses. good. and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion. with this whole flagship is really a series to resist off and you have to look beyond fact something's always just the

red but it's not just the way it. ready represent inequality has yet references hatred. and a flag was always present like it was in south carolina. when those mad people were innocently shot and we got a flag rep with please. well, i do have problems with all of the we have all a

a funds of confederate batteries and members of the k k k. i say that they are christian. i just, it is my hope in mind is that god would push them to portray christine, how do you change the heart of a man? law may not change it and it does change the habits of men. when you began to change habits of men. attitudes will be james curtis on the hops with the chain. my mother, she will say, i'm rights for women. they house are down. we hoses. she still held the bite marks

on the lead from the dow. and she also went to jail and i was like, no this my mom. why, why? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was upholding. when the news came own about the shooting. mama said don't make no food. you went to jail and gabby for human rights and civil rights and welfare. right. yeah. i better do something. and when she say better do something, we do something. ah, i'm the director of of life. i'll miss tippins coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the

confederate emblem from our state flay. it's gonna be hard, but it's not impasse. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for grace and mercy. because you need a whole lot. oh more than 200 people march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change and the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone. not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons, it will be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and lia campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as

a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian. and i'm a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i didn't have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. and then li, shooting and charleston happen. and i distinctly remember seeing the photo, dylan res, posing with the confederate fire and reading his blog posts, and then watch governor nikki haley has the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me

angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul. right now. in america. do you think it made them feel when they everywhere laid her? that flag is flying, and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no. mm

ah. this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit leather. the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. now the mississippi flag is wavering at this time. voters will decide if the confederate symbol will follow the flag of 18. 941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a

flag of 18. 94 was adopted just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black and reconstruction was over. and white, mississippi had regained political control from the majority black population through violence and intimidation. and a newly formed ku klux klan, the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from denying us citizen the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them. in other convention, delegates confirmed this notion. mm

. mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah! back all this by flag trade, the federal put the flags all over the story and i got a lamps hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag. so i'm a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern maine and, and accepted. and i, i relish in it because that's who i am. that's who,

where my family is, came from my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i'm a direct descendant of james jefferson johnson is my great, great great grandfather and 41st mississippi infantry. this is my sons confirm veteran certificate. what really got me just about doing some kind of a better organization is because of what's going on in the country discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us. or what about discrimination against southerners? they accuse us of all be in races. you know, and it's a sign of a 1000000 is what the flag means, a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me out. the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put

a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today. we're anytime i say that played out of magazines, k, k, k, p person with is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically, it's funny, however, you can't separate it from all that it is still for a negative sense. i'm glad for us to have a symbol about which people have no evidence, whatever we're adamant we're we can do this right and well and respectfully drawing bought. i don't like name calling, i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along,

i think. and right now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that there $900.00 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was a us senate and i, he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did,

he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design, known as this dentist flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the stanish flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 1894. ah. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development, only personally and getting to disease. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very particular time time to sit down and talk ah, for the 1st time in history, an entire country's culture has been canceled to the very modern weapon. cancel

culture. the desert. wonderful. i was just a little in 1000000000 fraud here. just me sitting there with the phrase now particularly refers to counseling russian culture. yet them know what to create a few orders that i give to william myers. sure. what you will be all there is cha, fill out that all the most of the separate yolanda e w. what rushes created over the past 1500 years. there's no question actually condemned, reviled and rejected to sort of like a bill of bramble. there's a lot closer on a whole bunch. thank you said a little short list. joining total condemnation grows daily and now enclosed da staff skate to cascade shostakovich. i need to hear your thoughts quick enough,

but yes, you can see that what that number you do? obama lee, you're left with o, the united states in many western countries setting title of irrationality. and i basically called what the u. s. is, you know, the u. s. position visa be sanctioned as a kind of mania. they keep repeating the same actions, and i think they're doing this because they want to show that they still rule the

world. but in fact, every, especially against russia, every sanction they have imposed has shown, has underlined how much they don't room. ah ah, well, western countries span hopes on the crop 27 climate conference to reduce the use of fossil fuels. congo is resident found their alarm that the western green agenda comes at africa expense with men and women benefit from the minerals and other countries. when our husbands are dying because of bad conditions, no one cares about our situation. social number western countries came here with promises of changing our life. but this is not what is happening on the ground with strengthening ties. as polls show 43 percent of indians.