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down. what happened at the mother of manuel and the church in charleston? south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun been stormed into a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these reward church . you're wearing church. what do we know about this man is and what is motivation may have been you, rape women, and taken all of our country. and you have to go shortly after doing the roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line with dozens of images, posing that confederate harry of sites and with confederate flags. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain more than its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the

backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder of racism, hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a get check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless the last few minutes amazon, just pull the flag as well. no. leaving nascar an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism that all has got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor

clemente pinkney moving the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness, not in salts, of the ballon confederate sold me, send me an acknowledgement the cause for which they fought. mm. the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later, the flag came down and south carolina. oh, this is a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this, the revel. banner rehab with your roommate. you know, i'm not going to you care about me. if you care about this bridge, the story is simple. 60, do you think the confederate flag of the fed, as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets, there are government as sanctioning that shows and symbol of

a terrorist organization on our state. far. i love that in there. i love the southern bail. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i mean, my problem is the safe place to where they even want in not a timing piece. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us because mississippians that we should change, we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor a standing in line with our welding. ah,

i was born and raised in the north or my irish great great grandfather, michael o'connor, was an officer in the union army. but i married a mississippian, and of course we lived here now in the main street in the neighboring town, is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away me and jefferson davis, his home and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi counties. our court house had the monument to confederate soldiers and some of our

neighbors flew the stake flag in their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable to tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying it. the same people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame. okay, my name is tim q, but i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family out on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane last, some people lane, right, or elaine's out, we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this

drives that we made, ah, i appreciate you being here. and now i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you are present both sides on positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all. i assured him and everyone else i spoke to in the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. mr. bate. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us. ah,

[000:00:00;00] a sons of confederate veterans purposes not to defend confederate government or purposes to defend the good name of the confederate soldier. that's the of the take, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere are not, can, they're not monuments to the federal government. they're monuments to them,

to the soldiers, to the battery. most of the came back terribly wanted. ah, ah, you supplied that those men were masters of some sort and that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course, for me, i'm fascinated with mississippi history in particular because the census and 1840 i think is our 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and any more than 20 years that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. oh, you know, that's a,

that's how we got here was these people were determined to live run over the sanction. do not view the ban again. oh, only which reward anus any. pardon? for anything, not done. look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't what happened on june 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and feel those people it was a human being that did that. not a flag. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open,

it does something with the concussion. every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying to us fly again. why not be offended? because if that's like, you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. oh, with that you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based,

own money and power in the only way you could get money in power. here in the south is if you kill a decent franchise, people enslaved plane is always new. would the confederate emblem mid to us as an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant you hatred? lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i leave it. ah, i will never be a victory for russia. wait,

we shall see what you so much the way newton are done by. she looked at 8 meal. korean war is a proxy war. this is a war between russia and the united states. mazama. americans to not shoot, kicked down in carbon dioxide. america forces are and you're not in europe. engage in conflict of rushing for use. american forces or hearing, defend nato allies. what happens that nato escalates even more indiscretion. laundry opperation become a war. so when you put those have some rules, again, i saw another 1000 is my dog. i see it that i see your to us. thank you. costliest got earlier with, so i used to issue a unique and you stuff to with almost them let's you live only to still finish their in your sewage, nero's eager for girl who's

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confederate veterans and members of the k k k. i say that they are christians, and it is my hope in mind is that god would push them to put tre. christine, how do you change the heart of a man? you la la, la la, la jane ma, household man. you can and a dog chamber habits of men. when you're begun, a lot will be june. my mother, she all for welfare wise for women. they holster down, we hoses. she still had the bite marks on her leg from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like to know there's my mamma. why, why? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her?

it was appalling when the news came on about the shootings. mamma say that don't make no. if i stood up, you went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights. y'all better do something. and when she fe, y'all better do something we do something. i'm the director of of life. i'll miss tippins coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flag. it's gonna be hard but is 9 in past. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just by god for oh, ah, grace and mercy. because you need

a whole lot more than you had a bigger march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that were unified. everyone in, not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and leah campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a whiteness recipient, and a person of privilege. to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors

created. mm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. and then the sitting in charleston happened and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan roof posing with the confederate fire and reading his blog posts. and then watch governor nikki haley has the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house. ground it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh,

so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul and me right now. looking at me or do you think it makes them feel when they ever and where are those her that why is why, what are we on mrs. day is better than that. with this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 993 the n double

a c p to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit leather, the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag. and in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum. asking voter to choose between 2 flags, the current flag at the time which had been adopted in $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering. and this time voters will decide if the confederate symbol will follow the flag of 18941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution, the civil war had ended 30 years earlier. and although black mississippians made up

nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation, and newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from to 9, a citizen, the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth to that 1st. the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude and other convention delegates confirm this notion in mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively prevented generations of black citizens from

voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah, back on the flag trade, the federal but the flags all over the street. you know, because i got the, the horizontal lamps hanging out. so i was, i was, i am a true blooded southern ms. mississippi, southern maine. right. and, and, and accept it. and i are relishing it because that's who i am. that's who i, where my family has came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great,

great great grandfather. he fought in the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a conferred veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about route. normally i'm kind of like a better organization is because of what's going on in the country. the maneesha, it's back, people discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us or war mom is currently engaged in southern they accuse us of all be in races, you know, and it's a fine of a 1000000000 is what the flag may. so a lot of people and that's why i like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, hey, got to the point that is today. we're in, tommy, why say that played out america seems k k p person. mm hm. what is referred to as

a confederate flag? graphically, it is done however, you can separate it from all that it is stood for an a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people just had no hesitancy whatsoever. we're at a moment where we can do this right and well and respectfully drawn bought. i don't like name coins. i don't white rallies where people are yelling back and forth. all along the way from the way i present things, the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, fred, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think. and all right, now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that they're 19 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color,

red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was a us senate and i, he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as the stennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes. who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the stanish flag as

a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94. with what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race is on, often very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time time to sit down and talk ah, the united states, in many western countries setting this title of irrationality. and i basically told what the u. s. is, you know, the u. s. position visa be sanctioned as a kind of manian. they keep repeating the same actions and i think they're doing this because they want to show that they still ruined the world. but in fact, every, especially against russia, every sanction they have imposed,

has shown as on the line how much they don't through the world. i will never be a victory for rush with done, but you locate me. ukraine war is a proxy war. this is a war between russia and the united states. muslim on are made, it comes to not shooting the men calling you boy. america forces are and you're not in your engage in conflict with russian forces. the american forces are here and defend nato allies. what happens that nato escalates even more indiscretion, military operations become a war with. so that was the show and that'll get those news. my store. i see it that i see you with with so i you story,

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