tv Cross Talk RT November 16, 2022 1:30am-2:01am EST
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reconstruction of anything inferior. they needed 3 attorneys. now we won't caterine on the 4 people t colt because heaton is not available. people take that out, got to cook. people caught of 3 effect in the environment and the use open fire to cook, the prostate without light, without water, without any patient. and quite often without foods, because every culture is in almost a fact that it would be due to the unavailability of fit to live the seed be a pod for every cultural machinery and non reconstruct choice. so basically rule can irrigation system. so watering is not possible. what i could observe that people latino, very cold and very hungry winter it's carmen. many people are leaving, especially in the fear of those who have higher level of quality cation. i could
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identify that every single individual across the country is factors and latino. i'm able to focus on any are you loud your money terry and assistance is not, not nature, not enough. and it kind of cool. didn't feel that gap which currently exists. yeah . and certainly the plight of this area, people does not get nearly enough coverage. now you have been a very major voice calling for the listing of anti therion sanctions. will you describe for us how those sanctions violate international law when it comes to the syrian people? well, from the point of international law is to basically allow trying to influence one another in the international relations. unfortunately, to be what's called unilateral tension, quite often do not feel the criteria of rhetoric for example or counter measures. and in the situation of furio,
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there are no 3 or evolution from the un security council imposing sanctions on theory, on individuals in peoria. the form i could observe in number of international legal, non reach you're affected by the use of unilateral sanctions on the 1st grant. and i need to speak about the violation of fundamental principles of international law . like principles of sobering, if you are the 2 principles of non intervention to the principle of be full set of international disputes, very, in the case of any control over c, d obliged to look for the peaceful solution of these discrepancy. so this gets him on that in position of sanctions against tires, teeth official basically undermine the sovereignty of the state, as well as imposing maximum pressure campaign also passed. the sobering t of the state rejects to the violent possibility of the states to participate in
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international relations. go into some are the elements i need to mention. for example, the immunities of steve property taken to call that in unity of main estate companies . and as well as the assets of central bank and the number of other banks of syria have been pro abroad under the customer norm. so into national low state banks and property or feed companies enjoys in unity from international adjudication. and shouldn't be frozen and senior be that also on the mind, the principle of over you actually feel similar relations happen in the 0 of diplomatic law. there are serious problems, so full functioning of diplomatic commissions, as well as computer emissions of theory and or theory abroad. take him to call that be a few issues come from the possibility to have a bank account possibility to insure it for the function of mission. that's on the
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mind, the function in the sphere of computer protection, i provide the visa for a 2nd period abroad and so on and so forth. basically alone, least of these measures. i need to mention that is from the preliminary report, i will continue to go deeper for preparation of the final report, but there are many elements of international law which i talk to by the use of you know, where it's all sanction. yeah. and there's certainly a lot of say here, unfortunately, we have to leave it right there alina, do hon. you and special rapid tour on unilateral colors of measures and human rights. thank you so much for your time and insight and for joining us. thank you. and that's all for now. be sure to check out our t dot com for all the latest. we'll see you right back here at the top of the hour . ah
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ah hello and welcome to cross out. were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle for some reason, a number of so called european intellectuals and politicians maintain the e. you represents the highest level of human development. we are told europe is a garden and the rest of us live in the jungle. rhetoric aside, europe is in serious trouble, hardly a model for the rest of the world. in fact, europe is declining into irrelevance. ah, crossing europe's decline. i'm joined by my guest, john laughlin in paris. he is a university lecture in history and political philosophy in munich. we have ro, niemeyer, he is the chairman of the council for constitution and sovereignty,
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and in providence we have vladimir goldstein. he is the chair of the department of slavic studies at brown university car. a gentleman cross stock rose in effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate, john, let me go to you 1st. you've been on this program probably for since it's inception, i know you're a straight talker. you don't mean to words. i'm not going to means my words with my question. does europe within the context of the e u when it's current political elite have a death wish? ah, that's a good question. i think in some ways, yes, i mean obviously what you're referring to in your question is the extraordinary way in which european leaders have taken orders from the americans. and it's very important to understand that they did take orders from the americans. i'm particularly of course, thinking of the closure of the not stream to pipeline. i'm not talking about the sabotage at this point. i'm talking about the closure back in february. or what's remarkable is the way they take orders, and yet they are the ones of course, who suffer from these orders. i mean, we've seen this now for,
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for months since the ukraine war started, or the americans in a way, one the war on day one. because the not stream to gas pipeline was closed down and or once it was closed down again, leaving aside the question of the later sabotaged. it was obviously always going to be very difficult for it to be opened up again. so indeed, one wonders whether they have a death wish because they doing things are all there in order to do stuff by other people which are not in their own interests. and i have to say that the death, which i think in my view, are manifest itself most obviously in green policy, so called green policy, which of course involves a negative growth, negative economic growth. a reduction in economic activity. obviously a reduction in energy consumption reduction in a travel and all kinds of all the sort of other things that we've got used to in recent decades. and increasingly what we see, for example,
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very recently in the last day or so in france and in finland and in other countries . now the idea of a carbon no permits which will track your carbon emissions. you know, every time you go and buy a pint of milk, you will law, you know, you'll be told how much carbon that costs and the logical consequence of course, of this i in these kinds of ideas even if they're presented as voluntary at 1st, is rationing and socialism central control and what was exactly where the soviet union was right up until 2 years ago. and that itself, if you like, that service experience was itself the kind of death wish. because in the name of ideology, marsha and the soviet union and the other countries associated with it, pulled themselves further and further down until as we all know, they were living in pretty miserable material conditions. and i'm afraid i think europe is on that same predictor. and let me tell you not in your head is john was answering my question here. and you know,
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obviously the garden reference i made has to do with joseph burrell. and his ridiculous blogs. the 1st one and then once explaining why the 1st one made sense and then the compound, it is a dilemma by continuing to talk about a garden. well, if we want to stay with the garden, the garden was real pretty because it had cheap energy, didn't it? and i mean it's really kind of simple. ok, i, you know, and john, visual jumps ahead of me. i wanted to talk about the be the bolshevik mindset here . but you know, more or less same question to you. i mean, everything that is being done in the name of ukraine and it's democracy in it's borders and all that is impoverishing europe. and what i don't understand, i can understand the u. s. wanting to push out its competitors in europe. okay, that's fine. but if europe becomes the industrialized and poor, then what kind of market do will it be for the americans? the export to not much you don't, you don't want to export. you can't export to poor people cuz they don't have any money. vladimir. yeah, i would say that, you know,
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what we been observing in recent years. europe was doing very well precisely with a new research in russia. that is, you know, they had cheap energy. they managed to balance and let's face it, it was a pretty successful balance between certain kind of, you know, kind of social practices. they provide good medicine, they provide sort of, you know, social protections. i was given to these practices for producing good product and selling them all the world. so the model was working and it's on this, the made it americans another company is kind of nervous. so they decided to throw a monkey wrench. and this monkey range, you know, in the form of ukraine worked very, very successfully. they somehow managed to kind of split the europe and split up by split in. i mean, you know, this very broad american leaders in the lead or somehow kind of believe that america knows best and common people who have to pay
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a lot of money for the broad us who have to compete in the, in the market for the job. so this is monkey range is actually very working very well for united states, but europe is just kind of divided and they don't wanna actually face reality. and it's a good emblem of house of americans doing that. you remember the very beginning of ukrainian crisis when newland ends up in a key of and discusses with american ambassador the new leaders in key to which key ask the questions and what the european will think about are going to metal defense would you know people and she answered in the root word, well, basically, who cares about europeans with. but this is the attitude, and somehow it doesn't seem to repeat that this is the american who cares. if you guys, you know, by expensive stuff from us, you're, you're not going to be got any more. and you know, if he's honest burrell, he should have said that, yeah, we're not it any more because america,
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not because of these kind of supreme understanding of how you are europe functions . you know, ralph, you know, they, you know, if we look at germany, germany is, you know, in the, in, in the, in the world, germany makes nice stuff. nice cars, nice pens, nice industrial stuff. and now that seems to be fading away. i mean, i mean to someone to point out of my program bakeries that survived the 2nd world war in berlin are going out of business. now. i mean that is it amazing comment here, and it's all self inflicted. the german political elite does nods its head in does what washington says, rita, this is a europe has, has a toxic, a dependency and russian know it has a toxic relationship with the united states. ralph and munich. yes, i fully agree with you. and i must say, it is certainly, i'm sure that germany is the most of the vassals states that mr. brewton said,
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were there in europe, and you saw to the beginning of the year, and chancellor charles had been in the white house, and mister biden said to the question, what about more stream to mister chancellor? the chancellor didn't answer that question of the reporter, but it was mister biden who sent out we have based to stop it. and that's what we have seen. now i've been active with a garage router that former chancellor of germany to pursue the german government and, and taking lot stream to our gas. and mr. miller to confirm to me also mr. pess cough at confirmed to me in september that they yes would be willing to give us gas through north stream to if, if the sanctions of course and the sanctions are clearly armor directed against our south, we shot ourselves into our own foot. if you look at the statement from our recent days now from the international energy agency, i. e, a that said that our 10000000 tons of oil are under sanctions from russia
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to, to western europe. that is an enormous, it's 2 thirds of the oil imports that we don't get any more. that is rising inflation. that is making life more expensive for everyone to tease that cost by products and so on. so the german industry is suffering worse. now when i came to the chancellor's office, i presented that offer from mr. miller from cas prom. and i said to him that either he has to sign it or somebody else has to sign it, but then he has to re sign because we need the gas we needed for the drum and industries for the assamese and for to populate yes meant route on that but his id, but isn't the, you know, the green future doesn't that trump everything, john? it's really amazing how ukraine and the green agenda have collided together. live at it at, at a godsend for, for washington. because a you that we are killing 2 birds with one stone. go ahead john. yes, that's absolutely true. but don't forget,
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we had cobra for 2 years. that's right. that also conjugated very easily with the green agenda. in fact, oh my center thing is a good pretext for the green agenda. the great reset, the famous great reset of june 2020 excel shrubs. great reset was written of course of the, in the initial shock of the 1st locked downs. and he and all his other doubles group, he said that this was a great moment to to reset the world economy. and when you read the book, you can see that what he's really talking about is, is the green agenda, is what i said in my 1st answer. it's, you know, reduce the economic growth greater centralized control and so on. and now, more than 2 years later, we have, for example, in the united kingdom. i mean, that's just one example because it's even more true what i'm about to say of germany and france and other countries. but for instance, if you take the united kingdom, which is, you know, has, everybody knows, has had several prime ministers since since wednesday, the latest one,
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the current one said only last year in glasgow. we have to rewire the world financial system to aim from that 0 or to achieve that 0. we why the world financial system? what that means is cooking the books together with the big accountancy firms, because he and pow schwab and the well taken away from him said they've got the big accountancy firms, the big for international account. see firms on board? it means cooking. the books integrating things like carbon emissions and so on into company balance sheets, literally rigging the accounts in order to meet this net 0 target. and, and he said that in 2021 long before the war and ukraine. but yes, of course, now that you're no longer has hydrocarbons from russia, it's obviously going to have reduce its consumption because everybody knows that the alternative sources of gas and other hydrocarbons do not exist. there isn't enough by natural gas, natural gas,
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and we certainly don't have the way it means to achieve john. john, i have to jump in here. i have to jump in and we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on europe's declined state with our t ah ah! with ah, welcome back to cross out, were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle, tremonti, we're discussing europe's decline. ah
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okay, let's go back to vladimir vladimir, you're here in the us and, and this is a week after the mid term elections and the final pitch, the democrats liberals made is that democracy is on the ballot. okay. kind of scare everybody. ok, well the ballad of the ballot is democracy, but that's a beyond the point here. and then we have the case of out, well you the crusade to save ukraine is in the name of democracy which there is no democracy there. but my point is here is that everything we have talked about on this program thus far, it's never been on the ballot. nobody ever gets to both is dep beer. and that is really frustrating. they all do everything in the name of democracy. but democracy is what they fear most because no one would bolt for this. vladimir. yeah, i would, you know, grades even though the skill over american propaganda damaged moralist, hijacked the hopes, aspiration of
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a lot of progressive kind of educated people. they all want to know, green plan and democracy. they all want sort of, you know, you know, good, good things. and, you know, democrats and liberals and greens in germany, they pretend to promise it. but basically it's a trojan horse that you know, they promise it, but underneath it what we, what we see is as the most kind of patient, greed, exploitation lies and so on. for me was very good example. and in germany, ok, they don't want to depend on russian. yes. and then when they find themselves travel, why don't we bring cold? so like how grieved if you think about it, how this progressive group, which you know, what wants to improve the planet breen, a call a bring in a franken. what are they going to buy the stuff from america? we just basically pollutes a whole states here. so, so this is, this is the idea,
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but i think it's a skill. but as of you know, leverage, you're being so dictated. they want to do the right thing, but they're convinced that they are politicians, that the right thing is to follow this. a very obscure, very democratic i agree with you, but in democratic american agenda, which basically jones, a blended into concentration camp rather than the green planet. that's what we're observing. but you know that if people are convinced or they are marching to a concentration blend but that, but they're thinking they're mentioning that they've gone into some kind of garden of democracy. you know, you know, ralph, i've been to germany many times in my life. and one of the things i like about germany will be very simple. the place works ok. it works well. i like it. ok, you didn't feel comfortable there. all right? but you are, we are most harriman's willing to live with less or most germans willing to be poor for the environment. i mean, again, this has never been tested at the ballot box. ralph? yeah, well, you're absolutely right. no one is willing to sacrifice the standard of living and
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we see that in the refugee crisis in 2015 suddenly people become very political, although they may not go and vote. but it's never put to a voting. now the same with the cultural revolution that we have since since cove. it since the pandemic. we undergo agenda arisen energy b t q and we undergo the green washing of our economy and it doesn't work and it doesn't resonate with people. people. i extremely upset now and they are marching in the streets every week to protest against it. they know that voting doesn't help them. and it's a bit likened to us when you say, do you have how pol humans, you know, here the debate is also hounded parliaments and many aspects. and the fine tuning of the economy doesn't help us any more. we need some more radical steps now to protect our standard of living, to protect democracy and growth. and that is the problem we have most at the moment
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. we see a decline in our production already and productivity as well. and we see just due to the high energy costs, so people are not willing to take it because our systems won't function anymore. we expect blackouts very soon, although the gas storage is our full, but the gas is already being sold to as well. so again, route, i'm sorry that i can interactively if i can interrupt here. so let me really clear here. europe is one of the most a wealthy and modern places on the planet and it's going to experience blackouts. okay, just take that on board, john. same thing, a brown out sky happening possibly in france here. um, is it all rushes fall? is that would be people in paris say, though, those damn rou, skis, or do they really believe this? because the u. k. prime minister, announced a few days ago, the country is going into recession and it's russia's fault. is that something the people believe go ahead, john pears?
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while i suspect the answer is probably yes, i mean, not every one of course, but i, my, my feeling is that it's quite possible that there is a fairly large measure of acceptance of that view. which of course i don't chat about, you know, to read personally. the propaganda is absolutely intense. yep. and secondly, you know, what is in store for us? is it so terrifying that it's really better? it's better actually feel state of mind not to believe it. so, you know, human kind kettlebell too much reality is ts eliot said the blackouts in a way i would say are almost secondary and important because you know, ok the lifecycle for a few hours. obviously, that's pretty primitive way of carrying on what some more serious is of course the long term the industrialization which this will cause which they are rising energy prices will cause, i mean, shortages of one problem, but rising cost in the sense
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a more important one. and the industrialization has started. so for example, b s f, the largest chemical producer in the world. the company that everybody has heard of has announced that it is permanently closing most of its european output instead relocating to asia. so this is a major development. but there are many other developments from the level of the bakers that you just mentioned, peter, and you're going to be really a questions to these gigantic or industrial multi nationals like b s. s. and once they've closed, once those companies have closed. you know, the factory and logistics are from the wherever and decided to, or make things in asia or even in america. because it's very important. perhaps i should say this so that nobody is under any illusion. the high energy prices are in europe alone. they're not in asia and they are not in the united states. so the competitiveness of the economy of the european economy of the continent of europe
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is absolutely terrifying. in comparison with the competitiveness of the united states and asia, which have far lower energy costs for a variety of well john di, i tend to think that's no coincidence. don't you think? i mean, seriously. ok, i mean, it's easy to always to blame certain someone else or, but, you know, let me go to vladimir here. is it the room i asked the question or blame russia? russia is not sanctioning any one russia is being sanctioned. that's why this is happening. okay. it's the west in its decision making. oh, stupidly i would say, i don't think they thought it out. certainly the russians have because russia is coming out of mild recession and inflation is going down. it's not happening in europe. vladimir. yeah, i think unfortunately we live in this kind of unbelievable. should george misa are which in our united states this is, this is way to become american thinking is imposing all over the world. let just go through history at certain moment. ok. there was like
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a $911.00 attack andre center, and then it has gotten, they had, once we beat the hell out of such, saddam everything will be fine. so they start the war, destroy one country telling everyone. oh yeah, this is one evil. why do morning? state one. ok, not that is really improve. ok now is could office well let's, let's, let's finish. they leave it. now let's do something with here. so this idea of like a designated evil guy be, you know, somebody in north korea or in the russia. it was, or no them, everything will define it with isn't the war, you know, the history and falls. we know like, you know, where the united century england was fighting with russia also missing the german rise and so on. so there's a complicated issue in this naive hope that we designated russia is an arch villain
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. once we're sort of do all our efforts, do something with a country. everything will be fine. this is this never walks in, there will, will. yeah, i mean whether they is, if they never want to blame neoliberalism, ok, because that's, that we get to close. that gets too close to home. ok, because neo liberalism has failed, but it's failed for the vast majority. people in the west, in north america, in europe as well, but no one can admit that because the people that have made so much from it our will maintain it. ok through these ridiculous elections that we have to go through that i agree bout doesn't really mean that much anymore. route here. what's going to happen to germany? because germany's pride is its productivity. ok. it's genius. its ability to create things that the world wants when people don't want german goods, then what is germany? ralph? yeah, well, 2 points here. first of all, we do not blame, rush of witnessing, but ordinary citizens, if we even say that an opinion polls that the mainstream may just polishing 40
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percent say they follow more to russian propaganda kind of, that's what they'd upset hear about. and secondly, they say 80 percent of germans, they blamed the americans full of the wrong economic decisions that they impose on us. so i compared with the time after world war 2 bird was at stake when we either would be under morgan talk plan. it would leave germany. she's right, just dia, dust realised, or, and marshall plan that we finally got thanks to the americans. so we could rebuild our economy after the 2nd world war, but now we feel we are under morgantown. recham again. so we are fearing that we lose everything. we are not blending da, da raffle for we actually call for a transatlantic divorce. in friendship, of course, with the american smile. i'm, i'm, i'm sorry, router memory, it's your money really wants to be serious that you can do one thing. it will shake up. everything is leave nato. what it would nato be without american bases in
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germany? ok. i mean it, the that were the 0 is the result we resolve here and then let me finish with with john. here you're a pass. no resolve. that's why europe will come continued a decline 30 seconds my friend. well, that's because the european integration process, which all the european leech believe in on and are committed to is an integral part of a trans atlantic system. and the alliance with america, the americans need and want a united europe. and they have done since the 19 forties and the european deletes want to have rusher as an enemy because that they think will reinforce a sense of european solidarity. so there is absolutely no chance of the current european leach breaking with the americans because it is part of their dna as part of their dna. okay. they're very involved. okay. it's their dna because they have a bolshevik mindset. get up to lee, but they're gentlemen many thanks. so my guess in paris, music and in province and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in our tea. so
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