thing over and over again and expecting a different result was, was described as the definition of insanity. but when democrats close to retaining the us senate, it is our being positioned that's almost a great deal. can america pull itself from its current economic and political debacle by repeating tired my interests and holding on to the same old belief? well, to discuss it, i'm now joined by ro period author off zanna canal mix miss a your. it's great to see here, great to talk to you. thank you very much for your time as your time. now, even before they say latest midterm elections, you've criticized the bite and administration for ineptness. saying that the problem with the liberals is that they believe their own b s. but this strategy seems to be working out handsomely for them at least for now, because the mid term results are going to be much better than expected. how do you interpret that? well, yeah, i heard the major results were better than i expected for the democrats. i would

point that the definition the united states for having actual results for the election are up to one month for weeks to, for we know whole center, which does country as well. i can tell you with few hours how can technologically sophisticated country like the united states and their entire long time votes. and so there's this odd situation in united states where it doesn't seem to be stuck with his of all action and get results that are meaningful in time right now. they may not be, it may not be good for the country, but it's secondly, it seems to be good for, for the people in power. is that what you're saying? i would put that in the category of the sure for what they wish for. because there roy,

2 or more trucks are taking place in the united states right now. and you mentioned before that for driving past too. now, i would suggest that this is true, pretty much around the world's. i don't see how, for instance, the german people would be going along. whereas the german leadership's participation in this war with minor common it seems like a catastrophic strategy to may, but lives are most definitely driving us from us and from an american perspective. most of the american people have nothing to do with citizens are completely removed from the democratic process. and this happens in 2 different ways. i mention the control system here which it takes amongst apparently to determine the kind of

election. the other aspect would be that the elections are almost completely removed from the day to day lives. the american people stand. so the american people, i believe, is left to it, provided good information and left to their own devices will come to far more reasonable foreign conclusions. and are coming to about world events right now. in your article, you mentioned that in your view, at least these epoch of american imperial arrogance is becoming a more. and i think i'm more than such an accurate term here because you're not talking about ending as some may have wished you're talking about becoming i'm changed losing, constrains or losing the safeguards that kept it in place before. and we've seen that for a number of years, internationally with america withdrawing from major arms trees or negating on the commitments that had previously or respected. what do you think it's all leading?

this is the 1000000 dollar question, oksana we in the united states and there are people who have a lot of information. people who don't have that information, but we who are paying close attention to this, do not understand it. we do not understand what the plan is. i can articulate what's been said, and that is that there is this long term plan for the united states to ally. we're song nations essentially divided divide the world into pcs and but how that's going to work medicine no sense at all. ah, in the present i haven't heard it explained. it's not being explained to the american people. so the question is how will this work? and so you're asking us from moscow, we're trying to understand it here. and the information coming from american elite

who are driving this process is historically i informed they are not providing answers as to why bang involved in ukraine or around the world of russia makes any sense at all in this particular time. now let me figure, can i see upon this argument of ignorance that you are using a lot in, in your reading? and i think even though this is not a crime, i mean, we, many of us remember socratic, who used to say that the more i know, the more i know that i don't know. so this is actually a great thing to doubt. you know the dogmas and the recognize the unknown. but i assure that it's sort of genuine, not knowing, as opposed to knowing full well and violently preventing others, their own people and the rest of the world from you know, analyzing the reality as it is and experiencing it as it it is. i largely agree

with the point that you just made on and discuss me back to the point about lead striving us process. and so the leads have information that they're not sharing to have logic that they're not sharing. the question is what, what can we do about this? and so i don't believe there are multiple interests. i'm an economist or i come from economics backgrounds, what i've done professionally for all these years. and they're even on my factors driving us really go back a century this the social for world war 2. im lisa americans in an acquisition because they were to didn't take place in united states. united states participate, but it took place in europe and, and russia. and so we have a different experience,

a great patriotic work. and i don't believe that experience is really understood by the americans, the remaining americans who prosecuted that and the current style just for the 2nd world war is insane. it was a horrible one of the worst rosshouse for africa events in your industry. well, it was the, the, the bloodiest war on the record. but you have a very interesting point, tying war to economy that i haven't heard many people make before. and this is a distinction between militarism as weaponized contest between nations and militarism as a development or profit making strategy. and many of our viewers, i'm sure, are aware of the influence that the military industrial complex has on the american

politics and american policy. but you, for example, give an example of a country of believe it who is government united states or reason to try to undermine which happens to be a major source of a we think that is very valuable for the electric car industry. so i, you're essentially saying that it's not just weapons manufacturers that have benefiting from, from warm making, but also civilian industries that are indirectly dependent on militarism as a developmental strategy. and that's what i'm saying. and yes, in order to understand it requires going back quite a ways in history. i would suggest 1919. when woodrow wilson, american level, the american expeditionary force to and all themselves. and the bullshit most of that garage solution and to try to negotiate that in federal or the united states. and what was going on there was on, i'm not sure was,

it was faulty in control. the 1st world war in russia are not known by that. but that was the 1st industrial war, and it was in repair in word that was our grad for industrial, industrial influx. what came out of that was soda, assist on the americans and now we have the chinese system coming our mind here. and so military production is a business in itself, imperial imperative, if you will, is to control resources that go into industrial production. and so i believe with the united states is right now, looking at the decision was made about 40 years ago in the us to stand to us realize the contrary to turn it into a financial center, the world's bank,

if you will. and i'll leave industrial production to russia and china and germany, others in europe and whatnot. but even i'm explained to those profoundly . and so part of what so difficult to understand about the current circumstance is, what are the economic, what appears to be going on the united states is this. that's not having better ideas. if i may stop here here because i think that's a very interesting point to consider because it's one thing to attack believe here or to try to undermine believe in iraq or any other small or mid sized country. or, for example, to try to benefit from a global conflict as happened for the united states during world war 2. and it's quite another thing to directly challenge a country the size. and i'm sorry to say strength and as russia,

because it is, and you know, a formidable partner or formidable enemy that the united states has never been directly involved with. what do you think is the calculus there? because ukraine in and of itself, does not have that many resources. it has some but you know, rational analysis would suggest that it's not worth putting your, you know, existential interest, your own survival as a nation on the line in order to get it. so what do you think is ultimately driving this said, you know, decision to pick up the fight with russia? this is one of the great mysteries. i've been an american citizen and paid attention as cold war ended, as it was greatly helped in the united states. that the us, we partner with russia at the direction of the russian people wanted to take russia in, would be facilitated by the united states as

a helpful partner. after the cold war year switch. we suffer through the united states as, as you do in russia, through disinformation and just just general militarism this has come in the present to seem like styles or for a trillion plus and perry and human history. and so you're asking for a rational explanation. and as i said earlier, this doesn't make sense to me, because i believe that the way that the united states leadership is looking at this is in world war 2 frame. where they're looking at the historical intentions between russia and germany and china coming online as a giant source of industrial production. and they're not

why russia, i mean, it makes no more sense here that does to you. okay, well, it doesn't make sense. mr. here let's take a break ashbury short break right now to think over it, but we will come back to this very puzzling question in just a few moments. stay tuned. ah for ah ah ah ah

ah ah, ah ah ah, hey welcome back to windsor forest with ro can you read all 3 of zan economics. mr. uria, before they break, we were talking about how the american decision to sort of very deliberately pick up the fight with russia doesn't make any irrational or strategic sense. but on the other hand, the russians with that launch of a military operation in ukraine had picked up that slide. and for, for russia,

there is no, there is a point of no return after launching that campaign in the ukraine. it's, i think for most people here and they, they understand that it's either we win this war on, you know, on certain terms or the country will perish. do you think the stakes are just as high for the united states are american existential issues or at least the existential interest of the american? the leads involved in this matter, given the economic motors that i perceive to be behind the police actions. a few people making themselves even more rich than they already are, while putting the entire rest of humanity at risk through what appears to be gratuitous military action or if broader,

longer history is broad and can be explained from the russian perspective. but there is a political logic to it, but from the american perspective, no political logic is then applied to this. and so the americans who are actually interested in these questions are such he returning to our, our tussle by the american motives here. and also if i could bring an environmental concerns as well, it appears that the worst decision where a tiny group leads international weights are done by the americans are in the position of holding the rest of the scene hostage. the american people who are in a similar position to the russian people, if it, if it, if it's intolerable for certain events to

unfold, then that's going to impact the americans through the american response. and the there does appear once again, i'll say to be this 20 year plan brand strategy. great powers politics are right. how do you? but this is the sound shop. this in this voucher for an age that is half. and the thanks for so high now. i mentioned the american people in the russian people here together because and i would throw the training on there who are affiliated with the military. but we are the people who are going to lives here and believes when, if there's anything to be won. and so i understand the political logic of the russian position. i've gone through the history

and can discuss it here. but what's missing is any understand any the understanding to senate stressed by the american, always in the military and late as to what the long term. but now i want to make use, if you're very, a dramatic and colorful background and you know, when you say that there is no rational explanation, i think there's also an irrational explosive explanation, which, by the way, the russian president often refers to and this is just the believe on the part of south american decision, makers of their gods. you know that the, the entire globe, the rest of humanity exists in order to serve them. even though they already have accumulated, you know, more than enough resources that can last families for generations. and generations, and yet for some reason, they want to continue massing more power and more money,

even though it directly to indirectly damages that own people. because even though the results of the latest elections seem to be in favor of the democrats, it's pretty clear that the level of polarization in the united states is perilous. it's unsustainable, the way it is. no society can exist when divisions, social, and economic and political divisions are so huge. don't you think that at the end of the day, you know, it's good that it, it came to such a hot point that at the very least this decision and the, you know, the thinking about this problem can no longer be postponed. people will have to react and they will, how have to break through electoral barriers or any other barriers that prevent them from putting their own stamp on on the policies of their contra. there seem to be so many better options that are granting any

good outcome from your current trajectory, their current actors and their actions. i wouldn't grant that, i would say i would go back to curse for augusta, the why when america look to see best outcomes for russia here. and this gets back to the snow cherry turn oil. this is left over from world war 2, which is left over from world war one, which began and the fundamental difference of systems was no longer excess. i've listened to mister president stages, he's very eloquent, very bright guy. and i believe that he's got a pretty good grasp of the politics here. and i don't disagree with what it is that

you said about the possibly the back and get the sense of a back against the wall. and from my perspective, that's a tragic mistake. and i would suggest that once again, the american people are overwhelmingly decent. and we're, we're controlling, we're just democratic state. and we, there were actual democratic control of the united states that there would be different outcomes from what i understand i've, i've worked with a number of russians over the years and not russians from what i understand. there's this tremendous potential for saturday, between the tables and if angering really that what a lease. and i will say global is the why are coming up where it is more warfare.

yeah, well i actually, you know, what i want to say is that, i think the russians are now living the american phase. when they finally realized that they, they want to be themselves, they want to leave on their land, they want to build it. they want to break away from all the american influence, or rather than american dick tad, than the american very clear attempts to put their hands on the resources of other nations and give them, you know, a glass beads in return. but that brings me to the question of whether the system as it is right now can really exist because it's one thing to pick up the fight against russia. but what the americans are doing is also they are trying to, you know, penalize other countries for non, you know, either joining the camp or simply being a natural don't you think that there they themselves destroy the system that they

so painstakingly woe and that brought them so many good is do you think that system in and of itself can, can sustain after everything that happened over the last couple of months? this is the question i'm really, i was for to the american liter driving process. how does returning germany to 1933 conditions benefit the united states or russia, those for good years, great depression or came to power 19, or americans traded with adult hitler. you know that so it's to, so it's a, it's a good business opportunity. i've written about the american relationships with it is sort of something that americans know almost nothing about us. but again, why, why is there any need, logically,

in the political logic and the last shore creating the crises that are being created. one thing in the united states that i think people haven't thought about is that our energy bills are doubling food prices are going through the rivers. this is been explained as an economic inflation, but this is a geo political in place. this is what's happening and i'm well enough off so that i can probably afford to heat my house here, but most of isn't. and how were a few months away from winner? for more or for you know, for me, but what, what is the other side of this one? i'm going to look like if half the german people phrase that europe is in food prices and energy prices. i mean, i states this as well,

how much support is going to be sustained for an ally, a miss of masters, russian. it doesn't make sense. it doesn't make sense. and yet it does, because i think both china and russia have had that period of humiliation. i mean, in china is called the center of humiliation in russia it was, you know, those bitter years of the 9090 is when we really 8 our humble pie so to say so sooner later you know that the moment of reckoning comes to any great power or any power that considers to be itself to be greater than it really easy. now i, we only have a minute or so left, and i want to ask you about your book because it contains a very interesting message. you argue that unless we, as a human collective and i really stress humanity here, you know, all the people that inhabit this beautiful planet behind your back. unless we, as

a human collective change the system through a re imagining and changing the ways we relate to the world. human society will ultimately collapse and i agree with it on a very deep so full level. and yet, i think that for many people, it's hard to operationalize it. what would you recommend to each one of us, you know, in american, the russia, in pakistan, in south africa, anywhere in the world? what is it that we can do in our own very little, very humble way that can could use that tiny but vital change? not nothing. this is still a problem. really power and control and solving environmental issues are through solving industrial problems, re arranging the way that we work. and the way that we live is the only way forwardness has to don don systematically. and so

what i'm hoping is that on the insanity of the current direct trajectory will become apparent to people on time to say we have about 6 months or so to understand the nature of the situation we're living through and come to terms with it. or, i'm sorry, i'm just not up. well i, you know, i am actually because it occurred to me that while they may be very little hold for here in the united states. we, as russians, we're living, you know, our destiny, our national destiny. and there many other countries, i speak to people from around the world, and there are many other countries that i no longer playing to the american to, you know, that you know, the american, the leads and that are bold enough to pursue that own path. a path that is in, in synchronicity with the interest of the world that i'm mindful of that all

national inter been there also mindful of the larger good and how, what to make to get along and to leave and let leave. so i think ultimately is something good may come out out of this war, but we'll have to discuss it some other time for the meantime. thank you very much for being with us. and thank you for watching hope to sera again next week and will support ah mm hm. ah, children at st and residential school suffered nightmarish levels of abuse,

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