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ah, yes, please, and you'll have to newness glad you have something to do, most of whom will shuttle specially to renew with this is up to engine util. could you little going to skip. mm ah, headlines right now here. naughty international power blackouts are reported all across ukraine as air alarms, as counting throughout the country. we understand that water has been cut in kiev and several other cities. a live report is coming up the european parliament, bronze, russia, a state sponsor of terrorism, and a non binding resolution, openly supporting russian antique government protests. a teenage boy is killed and at least 18 more people wounded and twin bus stop explosions in truthful, local police bratton. to get a terror attack with,
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well, it's good to have your company for this. i was all t program from moscow straight to your top stories right now. well, blackouts as we understand now ongoing, across much of ukraine, after a series of blasts in major cities. we also understand the water supply has been caught in a number of places, including the capital, kia, less cross live right now to our senior correspondent. but at gast dave, joining us now, this time in the, our, your when asi international, what's known so far would i'd as tough to get a clear picture. hey, we out, we hear blackouts. we had miss all strikes in ukraine. well, can you just clear it up? for us, please. well grades, energy infrastructure appears to be crumbling, russian strikes and we have seen waves of them of the past month or so have had a build up effect. so the ukranian, the ukranian authorities,
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services have been able to balance the energy infrastructure, power generation of power distribution systems, despite repeated strikes, will be it with a reduced capacity. but this has been trach. what has happened now is that the ukranian authorities are no longer able to keep the energy infrastructure together to, to, to keep it supply major cities, for example. so we've seen today a blackouts region. my blackouts in evolve in the west of ukraine right next to poland in the south. odessa, i key f, metro there, left without power. much of the city had been suffering blackouts for a number of weeks now. kind of also left without power, several nuclear power stations and ukraine has been forced, while at least one of them into emergency move. they put, cut off from the energy. great. and that is because they were forced to shut down
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because the power they generate house knew where no, where to go with that be because of strikes against the power transformer stations will or power lines high voltage power lines. the result has been that much of ukraine has been left without power. this is, or of course, the spot repeated messages, the preferred and less than present in ukrainian press. pirating this opinion that russia has been running out of missiles. it doesn't appear to be the case we've seen again today. cruise missiles, launched by strategic bombers from russian territory, fly unimpeded across much of ukraine, which also speaks about ukraine. ad defense as the much wanted ad defend system supply to be crated by western states. more and more of them, they have a peer, well, they appear to be ineffectual. the strike,
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so ongoing ease, probable the russian strikes against euclidean energy infrastructure will continue . and the foreseeable future. and that will drastically complicate things for the great war. machine part is just about 5 minutes past 5 where you are now more out. thank you very much for the update. we'll probably be speaking to you soon. our senior correspondent garcia. thank you for the meantime. the european parliament has passed a resolution to coal, russia, a state sponsor of terrorism, of a 705 members about 500 voted in favor. 58 were against the motion and the rest abstained from voicing an opinion. well, little background for you. the resolution has no legal consequences for russia, but the block has called for this kind of framework to be developed in the e u. that's different to the us list of state sponsors of terrorism, where countries face economic challenges once listed. it should be pointed out that russia is not on that list. though the russian foreign ministry has this reaction
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to the resolution. the european parliament adopted to resolution recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism. i propose to recognize the european parliament as a sponsor of christianism. while among calls to a label, russia and support you cry and the resolution went further and evidently determined . i guess one might imagine who reports the truth on the conflict. the ear parliament appeals to all russian. people not only to refuse to be direct into this war, but also to protest against the atrocious war crimes against the people of ukraine commenced the war of ukrainian international journalists hotel the world. the truth about the war and ukraine often risk in their own lives to do so. well, this comes of, even on the ukrainian side of the front line, locals have admitted strong support for russia. while western media outlets one normally show it a recent article in the washington post didn't hire that real story off the correspondent roman culture ref has more ukraine,
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united or ukraine divided who is considered the liberator and who is an occupier. now, these are the sort of questions now been raised by international pundits and observers . western media, endlessly covered, ukrainian forces, move it into the now russian here san showing the jubilant crowds, waving national flags and welcoming caves, forces to someone not familiar with the real situation on the ground. the image is presented could easily sway the opinion of the city. was entirely pro ukrainian now though this black and white picture is being questioned, fake, a recent washington post article where the author admits that there were, in fact many pro russian citizens and her son. the story dilutes the narrative of russia as the unwelcome aggressor. how to rebuild without the thousands of russia sympathizers who fled and even more vexing. what to do with those who remain
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thousands in the city held an ambivalence towards the russians or even an affinity that piles of documents catalogues his own residence. applying for aide pensions, passports, and employment. one listed children sent to a summer camp in crimea. applications to volunteer at the 8 sent at filled binder after binder prior to moscow's repositioning off its forces to the opposite bank of the river. never in her san local administration, evacuated thousands of local residents to crimea, and other regions in russia. the washington post article talks about the fears of those who welcomed the russians, but for some reason decided not to evacuate. as soon as the russians fled, however, the roubles were nearly worthless and he was left with little but the shame of having taken the payments and the passport. i don't know what will happen, he said, as his wife squirmed uncomfortably and a neighbor eavesdropped. the craniums might shoot me to morrow. the fears expressed by this man, not unfounded,
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don't take our word for it and take another look at the western media as reporting such words as russian collaborator and punishment is inevitable is what unites these articles as they outlined, they are rounding up off russians. sympathizers with their hands bound and tight to lamppost and other popular word and ukraine to day is filtration. this in humane process is depicted in videos like this one is, 02 looking movie numbers with you. so when it comes to here, song, it becomes increasingly clear that far from all of the locals. so russia as an occupying force, similar feelings and emotions are often expressed in ukraine as well. and that
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might lead to an assumption that so we are looking at it type of a civil war. we've seen videos reportedly showing people in key of who expressed support for russia being beaten up and threatened. this man slammed an elderly woman's head against a window of a train after she said that russians are defenders. we've also heard directly from ukrainians, including a militant from the nationalist as off regiment, admitting that in fact, in many towns, the majority are waiting for russian troops for this up. but some of the 60 percent of people were pro russian in maryville. they really wanted to join russia, missouri, and i said over 63 percent of local population here. my dear support, russia. it's not the 1st time the washington post showed this so complex aspects of the conflict. another article detailed how many ukrainians wanted to route certain
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to areas under russian control. but we're actually blocked by key of authorities. it seems that what was previously deemed as a russian propaganda talking points is no longer of that. and it took nearly 9 years, but it seems that it's impossible to ignore any more. all right, how to take this conversation much further now is joining me in the studio. are human and labor rights, laura dank of alec, an international lawyer on o devil? i both of you are very well welcome to moscow. great to have you today here in the studio. thank you, roy. thank you very much for joining us. if dan i was just the 1st year because basically you have just returned from don bass. if you would give us a, a sense of your experience that what's, what's happening on the ground there right now? well, we spent most of the time in done at city and up. what i was impressed with, i mean honesty is, is the normalcy in the city, you know, traffic,
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people going to work, people going to restaurants, people going shopping. and i was told that actually that type of vibrancy really started happening after the referendum in september. the people feel a little, a safer and better now with that said, there were some shelling while with that we were, they are a school was hit, a place where people go to get water because the water treatment facility had been damaged quite a while ago by shelling from the key of government and the stadium was shelled. so there's regular shelling. but with in that context there is a feeling of normalcy in that that. that's what i was impressed. she thinks you should. you think the shelling is targeting specific points within the next city here going for certain schools or kindergartens or infrastructure for example. is it fairly indiscriminate shelling who i think it's very clear and we asked people about that. i think it's very clear that it is target, they are trying to target important infrastructure like schools, like this place, people gather water like the stadium. and by the way, what that means,
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and by the way, these were. busy shells coming from the, you know, key side what they're doing is shooting over the front lines right over the soldiers and into the city. so clearly they're trying to target the city and trying to target civilian infrastructure, which they've done now for a years. yeah. but also, i mean they're, they're, i guess, i assume there are these russian defense defense systems, their internet city that are trying to push back on some of these shells that are coming over. did you see any, did you see any and any interceptions or i didn't see any interceptions the what you do is here a lot of artillery fire throughout the day and throughout the night that you hear almost incessantly. and i'm sure they're doing, you know, good job to some extent, but they can't, you know, they can't hit everything. so, you know, again, there were some shelling that was hit its target while we were there. we've got a correspondence in the region. they've been giving us these reports now for quite some time and that the shelling certainly doesn't seem to stop or even slow down
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for the most part or no, i want to speak to you if i may, because i'm obviously with you being an international lawyer from your point of view, it is an a thing, the thing that you saw in that region that immediately needs to be addressed or, or is it more like dan said, as a vibrancy that people are going around their daily lives and, and everything's going okay or well, in don't ask you there's this sense of normalcy, but it's kind of a, something that induces you into thinking it's normal. it's a defense mechanism. people need to carry on with their lives. at the same time, we really understood that any moment you could be targeted. whether you are school, you know, attending students, whether you're going to a hospital, whether you attending the markets. so people have been integrated, you know, some kind of defense mechanism bearing on trying to reduce the risk. but the risk is always there and desk and flight all the time, but are no, i mean if you know this then, and both of you, what we're down in that part of the,
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of the some part of the country that if you know this, why did you go down where we wanted to see fall self, what does people have been undergoing to last 8 years? because again, it's is one of the conflict that's been the least covered by the western media if anything. and so it's important to have a western regard on what's going on and why to take a bit of the truth back with us on the ok people obviously for years people who don't bass of complain. for example, the ukraine has discriminate against their primary, right to me, they're been rolling blackouts. the ward has been cut off before. you can't teach russian culture, you can't speak. the russian language are, know, is that, is that these issues do that you think could, at the end of the day be brought into, let's say peace negotiations. that these are issues that should be touched down upon. i think in terms of peace negotiations, this aspect of that you just refer to the violations of those whites. this has led
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to the reco ronda in the basically the, the self determination principle being applied. and so that if the decision have remained, was people have chosen to move on, then no, there's nor, we're going back and as far as reconciliation we gave. and so i, i think this will be off the table. if anything, now the negotiation will be more about flying to come out of influence. but the rights of those people now are secured by the russian federation, obviously. and an adult is in the room and they're going to stay with the adult. that's not going to go back to what about done, but by to you, you had a chance of meet when the people who are living and join us, whether it's the taxi drivers or the, or the waiters, or just to every day average tension who's got, who's living that is there a sense of fatigue wolf fatigue with the residence of that town? do you think? i think there's a certain stoicism that people have that's what i would call and yeah,
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people are tired of it and they're tired of of course their lives being disrupted again. the big issues, water. people don't have regular water. so you can have showers regularly and certainly hot showers at a premium. but again, i was impressed by how resolute people are as well. i mean, again, they've been doing this for 8 years and i think they're a little hard and do it. i would say. but again, i was surprised, you know, people were friendly and they were happy to see foreigners in their town. they don't see that very often. they were very friendly with us. and i mean, i took away from it. i mean, i really took away an admiration for these people. what do you, what do you think the thing that when it comes to, for example, press coverage and we know in ukraine for example, the press has been pretty much corralled under under one roof. even in the raw politicians and opposition parties are basically blocked from being an opposition parties. there are some concerns perhaps that,
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that there's only one side of the story being told what, what other people have done yet thing. well, they often will say that they'll say, you know, when you say, hey, an american sky, you know, like, well, and they'll say, well, we know you're being told certain things where we know you're getting one side of the story. we know that you're being told that, you know, rushes, the bad guy here and key of the good guy. but when you look around those, say, you know, it's clear that's not the case. i mean, let me be clear, you know, we went to mary opal 2. we went to another town in the very far east of, of didn't that were public and there is no feeling that it's a place under occupation. let me make that clear. there's no check points within the republic. why? there were a couple but you know, we just kind of breeze through me. you don't see troops on the street. some you see soldiers around, but they're like just going about their day. there isn't
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a feeling the people who are under some sort of repression or occupation, right. so that i was a little surprised by again, how life just kind of goes on. what about in the hottest on region or no? a p has shown pictures of people accused of being pro russian, being tied to lamp posts, footage of women and children being dragged down to their homes. also, soldiers with neo nazi and seeking is on their uniforms. swastikas as well being painted on the ukrainian times are know, are you surprised at all that this really gets 0 traction in the western press? of course not because there's nothing that kit can do, that will be perceived as going against the any kind of set narrative. so we saw that there were some footages of bearing on the liberation of catherine the great and military victory over the russian occupation forces for the 4th. and as soon
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as the, this individual was standing on a tank and obviously raising his his ominous salute and they cancelled out the press credentials, all will journalist on the ground so we can see how they're trying to satisfy. was it also the, the journalist was fired wasn't to the journalist who broke the story about, the alleged russian missile targeting. poland, of course ended up being a ukrainian defense, michelle, but the guy was fired for that. i mean, i mean, look done when it comes to the latest, the new york times, new times, they were reporting this that would be executed and of russian prisoners of war. i was really surprised to see the new york times report on that story. is there any possibility down that, that the western mainstream narrative could be shifting ever so slightly or no, i would say it's maybe softening. i think, you know, the, the truth while alex is, is a true one. we're months into this conflict. you know, over 8 years and do it if you start from 2014. and finally i do think that the
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press has to start dealing with reality. and the reality is that there are fascists that are involved and neo nazi types involved on the side of ki, of and they've been involved since 2014, at least. and again, the people we talked to are very clear about that fact we met this guy's in his mid fifties, who is still fighting. he's been fighting since 2014 in defense of dynette. and he actually refers to the military on the other side. he is sometimes he would slip and call the german and the nazis because that's you know, how they see them. and again, in many cases, quite rightly. and again, i think it's very hard for the western press. they've been, since you've been doing gymnastics, they've been, they must just returning the pretzels to get the shot where you don't see the swap . you don't. yeah, exactly, exactly. finally, i think they have to be once in
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a while, the truth comes, comes through. john surely does it. surely there's a major conflict of interest or you go back to the 2nd world war for god's sake and the did the feet of naziism. and now you've caught nato members visa, european countries who fought the nazis who are sending weapons suit, neo nazis and nazi sympathizers in ukraine are know, it is history, repeating itself in some bizarre, more bits. and well, you know the adage, you know, when it repeats itself, it's kind of a joke. but in a way, more to nobody ended than just recycle those guys and think they would it for the right time to deploy them again. when you know where they are and their interest when we're in play, i, let's, if i can just bring in another angle to this because i've only got you guys for a little amount of time here. and i really want to ask you some of these other very, very important questions i'm working so hot on today. what about you, lawmakers, dan, they've just designated rusher as a state sponsor of terrorism. i'm when they saw the 1st are talking about this. i
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thought, my goodness me, i spent 10 years working at cnn when i was at cnn when i was studying the war in iraq, afghanistan, the war on terror. i know all this kind of stuff. and now suddenly e, u and u. s. will make us considering, well, they've tried it and they have their native russia, a state sponsor of terrorism. is that going to change? and the thing do you think? well, i think it just adds fuel to the fire, certainly. but i just want to say that how ridiculous that is, you know, people need to be reminded that the 1st world leader to call george w bush, after 911, was putting him off for condolences to offer help on the war and terror and gave help in the war and terror, particularly an afghan esteem, where russia still had assets after the soviet presence there. and of course, well, and i've been to syria twice. i was last year. and there you see that the russians have help fight isis there. while it's the u. s. in the west, which is help them at time. absolutely. right,
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absolutely. that's the irony of these types of resolution. but they're dangerous resolutions because what it means is that it's going to cut russia off from the west on a, on a fairly, not permanent level. but on a long term basis, and i just don't think that's good for, you know, but one of the ironies to this is off the, off the europe cut off russian energy and food instead of what you're not going to buy it. then i'll just send it elsewhere. now essentially, europe is getting most of his pipeline energy where through ukraine, so you've got the rouge pipeline. it is, you know, it's on a sofa. could you imagine? so rushers is terrible, terrible, evil empire, but it's still pushing its gas through ukraine. they're still going into the european union. or no, i wanted to ask you the us state department spokesman on tuesday condemned iran over violating a rocky territorial integrity for essentially launching i guess across border campaign of what it said it was targeting terrorists. so we have a, we have a comment from, from ned price, the u. s. state department spokesman, i have
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a listen to this quickly. iran's violations of iraqi territorial integrity continue with little attacks carried out against the iraqi kurdistan region from november 20th through the 22nd. the united states strongly condemns these repeated and brazen violations and calls on iran to refrain from the 3rd. the threats and violence talking about iraq, he territorial integrity are, know it's a little bit light. the pot calling the kettle black perhaps yesterday when you consider that the, the u. s. and these, well, yes of been using iraqi kurdistan as a platform to destabilize iran on each western borders. and so basically what you want is saying is they're going to give baghdad the central government of iraq, the opportunity to get a drip on the situation. but the bank that is not able to do so, you would have to assume is its responsibility and act reporting. it's
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a matter of national security for you wrong done and bring us up, bring us some of the angles, say when, when it comes to the situation. the conflict ongoing ukraine when it comes to european leaders, caught cutting off russian energy and all this russian energy. now spilling to the far east. india is getting loads of russian energy, these days. cutoff, china, 24 hours ago, china just sign that one of the biggest energy deals in the history, nearly 3 decades worth of katasha gas will be funneling into china. we are seeing massive moves on the geopolitical energy chessboard around the world today. any idea what? who is up to? well, i mean, he's selling to those are willing to buy it. he was very happy to sell it to western europe. and in fact, angela merkel begged him to open the 2nd new stream pipeline. right. and promised him he was afraid. what has happened would have happened. that is that they'd agreed to this pipeline and then reneged on it. of course, that is what happened,
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but he'd be just as happy to turn the juice on tomorrow if they asked for it, but they're not asking for it. and so he's selling to the east now because they will buy it. and of course, ironically the europeans would probably end up buying the same gas from china. they came from russia at a higher price. please the absurdity of this entire leakage way i meet meantime. meantime, we are doing a story on our team, which is just in the past 24 hours or so. in the past few months, 200000000 pounds worth of oil of russian oil has arrived at the docks of london and southern coast of england. all this russian energy is still going to the u. k, but it's not being declared in any way, shape or form or no. what do you make december? the 5th, not far from now. that supposed to be unveiling the g 7 countries mostly on building this price cap on russian energy. some people have described it like, well, you go into a bar, you told the bartender i want to pint of that be, but i'm going to going to pay $0.50 for. it doesn't quite work that way. put into saying, if you're not going to pay the going price,
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you're just not going to get it. it's absurd on its phase. it's absurd. but it's interesting that the u. k. and the u. s. somewhat, you know, because of g l. and although the liquefied gas is being sold to europe for 4 times the price is that they would obtain the russian gas for and they had to to $1.00 physically while you know, so converting their own sanction radio and that's the key was circumventing. there are their own sanctions there, but then again, you know, look at this, we understand that the, the credit has officially said that the u. k. was that the ring master, when it came to the bombing of the north stream pipelines out of course the u. k. wouldn't have done that without a nod, at least from langley, and then we have all of a sudden american l, n g, which is so much more expensive, essentially being force fed down the throats of europeans done. what is europe looking at now with a winter of discontent and economies going down the drink while they are looking at trouble? they are looking at suffering for their own people. and that the governments of europe have accepted this state of affairs, right?
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that really the u. s pushed on that. let's face it now. and i think by the way, the u. s. targeted western europe as much as they did. russia would be now that's a very straight and almost wiring state when you say it again for me, please done. yeah, the us, these sanctions are aimed as much at europe and particularly germany as they are against russia. how is that possible? the white house is always saying, hey, you're your best friends, buddies. you're your best friend and yet doesn't seem that way. it wasn't well, a guy named henry kissinger, one said that to be an enemy of the united states is dangerous to be a friend, can be fatal, and we are seeing that right now. let's face it. the u. s. is a hyper capitalist country. it sees every other country as a competitor, whether it's an ally or an adversary. and so we see that it has struck against europe. another competitor. and what's amazing though is not that the us did it, but that the european governments accepted it passively against the will of their
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own people. and we'll see what happens at the end of this winter, whether some of those governments don't for when you talk about doing the sanctions, you know, essentially against the will of their own p. well, i mean, i know you've seen the protest, for example, and check republican prague. just one of the many european hotspots for demonstrations that, you know, a couple of weeks ago, we had more than 70000 people on the main central square the main piazza and prague calling to the whole government. the basically stand down, a lot of them waving russian flags. a lot of them were saying you politics, you politicians are ruining our lives at this rate. i wanted to mention done, you know, you just mentioned henry kissinger a few, a few moments ago. the guy is still going to 900 something odd years old, but it was also he also said, if you want to control the people to the will, you have to control the energy. he also allegedly said later down the road. if you want to control the people that you have to control their access to food, but i'm not exactly sure if he was the one who said that gentlemen, it's been wonderful having you both here at the headquarters of artsy and our studio here at moscow. danica alika international lawyer are no devil
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a human and labor rights laura as well. thank you very much, both of you joining us and welcome back from don bass and on. yes, very interesting to get your, well, your level headed opinion on what's going on down the i know of correspondence with down that we always get the action from them, but to get the more schuman side of it from both of you. priceless. thank you both very, very much. thank you. thank you. thank you. well, thanks for joining us here on archie international. let's shift gears here now to jerusalem, where one person who's been killed and at least 18 others wounded in true explosions at bus stops. and there was a teenage boy who studied the nearby jewish school has been identified as the fatality. what is really officials are calling out of a coordinated terror attack. and the blast occurred during the morning rush hour. a police say both bombs were in bags hidden in bushes to city bus stations and the explosives which were packed with nails below.
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