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lori dennis lauren is the grand. busy daughter of senator johnston is he represented during the time of jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was ok is just so important to me who felt bad all the time and through the generations of people change. i'm a hip hop artist. i you feel pop when light in and, and i respect honoring your ancestors. i honor mine and that's kind of, i feel where the class happens because no one's going to back down from that. but i need you to acknowledge the brutality that was carried out under that banner. and once you can do that, then hopefully a dialogue can begin. and we can come to some sort of agreement because i'd rather have you with my neighbor than my enemy. we deal with a
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nothing. the cemetery that we're going to and i say cemetery, it's not much of a cemetery is just a few grades. but to me this is what our state flag is about. this is why our flag should remain the same with this was originally just a small family cemetery. bo railroad tracks are in the same place. those or, and they ran from meridian to jackson and owned vicksburg. soldiers died on the train, brought up here. they didn't even know the names of the soldiers. these are some of the filings who fall and died and their families never heard from them again.
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didn't know where they were buried. what happened to them, this one right here it says a 6 brave soldier, sleepier. that's kind of ha, feel about it. they were brave. they were honorable. they didn't fight to preserve slavery. they fought because their home was invited because their, their stake ask them to and it was honorable thing to do in ah,
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how can you say that when that caused that you say that they fought so nobly for was girded up by slavery. the whole reason for mississippi getting into the civil war, they say very plainly, it's about preserving slavery. this is something that goes back almost to our founding in this country that, that the belief that america is a white man. and anybody else who comes here has to back down to the white man's rules. so it's about white supremacy. it's about power and control. it's about maintaining the status quo. and any kind of change occurs in this country, where there's progress made towards diversity. is responded to as it is that correct. ready to the white man,
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if we're going to change this flag and some brave white man, i'm going to have to stand and step up. and it's got to happen in the midst of the legislature. a last legislative session, there were 19 bills related to the flag. this session there 22, all of those bills related to change or a means by which we can change the flag has been introduced by african american legislators. they bill for in support of the current state flag have all been introduced by white male, conservative legislators in 2001. the people in mississippi voted on a flag and 65 percent of the people voted to keep the current flag. well, i don't think we as elected representatives, have the right to overturn their decision. now, whether you like it or not,
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we can argue about that. but the decision was made by the people of mississippi to keep the current flag. so do you have a personal feeling about the flag? i personally believe that we should keep the flag. i think that the narrative that any m lorine thing there that harkens back to the civil war is somehow racist or in support of slavery is just wrong. what we have to do is spend the time to educate every one of what the real history of. mm hm. in the belief that the flag issue will be settled when we all understand the real history of the civil war is attractive. but which part of the history confederate harriet supporters argued that the civil war
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was not fought to free the slaves? because abraham lincoln himself said, so it is original inaugural address. he said, if i could preserve the union free and all the slaves, i do that i can preserve the union, but free some slice that i can preserve the union. a free dumpsite pat key was preserved union. and though lincoln was morally opposed to slavery, he held common racist beliefs. and then there's the core when amendment a whole, and then it was proposed to actually legalize labor. and i tried to propose it to the southern people to get them to not to join, get back in the union, but they denied they didn't want to have any part of it. all, had it been about was slavery. then the court amendment would fix that because it stated that the south to perpetually keep is peculiar institution which referred to slavery. if they would not succeed from the union,
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the core one amendment passed both houses of congress in 18. 61 lincoln in his 1st inaugural address, said he would not interfere with it. had the corps would amendment been adopted before the civil war began. it would have provided a constitutional protection for slavery in the united states. and it would have been the 13th amendment but mississippi made it clear that they succeeded to protect slavery. in part because they believed that black people were better suited to work in the oppressive heat, require for picking cotton. and some white mississippians feared that emancipation wouldn't just mean economic ruin. it would lead to something they feared, even more racial equality. this was made clear when a commissioner name william l. a harris was sent to georgia to persuade them to join mississippi in seceding from the union and form a southern confederacy of slaveholding states. in an address to the georgia general
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assembly, he said, our fathers made this a government for the white man rejected as an ignorant, inferior barbarian race, incapable of self government. he concluded his speech, saying, mississippi would rather see the last of her race. men, women, and children immolated in one common funeral pyre, can see them subjugated to the degradation of civil political and social equality with the race. georgia joined the confederacy. 3 months later, out with our previous president, it was there was nothing but a big hey. and it seemed like there was more of a, a war out of a race war. more speak on the wire is really what it was. this isn't a racial thing that my enemies and we don't play for anything racial at all. we're, we're out here. we're stand for southern prior
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that a wife knows it away with his friends with judge roll about believe that will they will be able to make sure around everybody. finally, you just rested because there's fire. don't stay in for a show, mr. sar. heritage was set on a table and hash out the plan, a plan to an understanding that this is the way we feel, regardless how you feel. you know, the way you feels while you feel we can change where we're asking you to change what we're asking you to come to a place in your life where you can excel what we do as we say up what you do. but the odds of that happening are slim and then i honestly believe we get freedoms that down for okay, go to our wow. i believe people were relax, a little more invest, all right, religion with
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her and say flag flag of 1894 as a symbol of the mississippi that adopted the constitution of 18. 90 mississippi. as governor at time james art event, unabashedly stated, mississippi's constitutional convention of $1890.00 was held for no other purpose than to eliminate from politics. let the world know it just as it is. governor of argument also said, if it is necessary, ev, every oh, in the state, be lamps, and it will be done to maintain white supremacy. sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, it is such a bad replace them they're not for quite frankly, they think that's fine. they can stay wherever they are. i might this voice. if i didn't like mississippi, i would leave. if you don't white mississippi where you're leaving, i invite you to do the same for its own place where you can be happy. i've been
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great in this state. and i'd love to see if a people to sit there and say, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere else. my family has been here for more than a century in that plague deal when it is for me. no, i was going to take the flag away from you. can we add on value on your travel, your car, and you got the 1st amendment gives you without, without these date play, they represent all mississippi and in their flag that represent. oh that's, that's the point. ah, at the recent g 20 meeting in bali, the west, it all, it could with the help of corporate media to isolate russia, all their efforts came to nothing. in fact, the opposite happened. russia was a welcome participant, nato's proxy war in ukraine does united much of the global,
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so it's nature against the world. oh, well, never be a victory for russia. we switch with them, but look at 8 mean crane war is a proxy war. this is a war between russia and the united states. naz on are made. it comes to not should get them in carbon dioxide. america forces are, and you're not in your to gauge a conflict of russian forces. the american forces are here and defend nato ally. what happens if nato escalates even more than the special military operations become a war? when you book does have some rules that yellow show and that doesn't is my dog. i see it. i see you us thinking casias got on the lift so easily. he should leak and he's dealt with them. let's see. let me just
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a a law lucas? low one. it talks about how good to walk to give a group a lot of your own. we're taking a fil is hurtful to 37 percent of. busy people with a lot in the summer of 2015 the where with the assistance of compromising republicans, launched an attack on symbols representing the confederate states of america. after
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guillory loss, donald trump was elected. there were rives from july and we protestors, mostly minorities, can be seen in the demonstration chain, did not president a reply to that and maybe, what do you think, whatever the answer is obvious, the flag bear with the members. boy, you probably heard a little more than me. pain with very what about people there? tell a little boy, a feminist, a
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b y b a noon. i met ray shores once before and he said something to me in that conversation i'd heard from other confederate heritage supporters. but ray was the only one who set it on camera. he had said that slavery was, it was a natural condition. i don't know exactly what i said them, but i remember the interview, the relationship between the slave and the master wasn't accepted thing and a, it was there was a love between them. i want them to understand what you're saying here is that, that, that, that it didn't matter or arrange. and you're saying that in the united states in
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mississippi, that it was a natural flavor, was natural and that the relationship could be a natural thing, could be yes, it could be no, there could be people who felt like it was and that like the slaves, some of them perhaps you think it was not? um yeah, i don't think it was already approved for. okay. what the position? yes. i just accepted it as a as their station in the line. do you see a situation where blacks could be masters to wise? would that be nap? would that be? no and yeah, i think in some cases very well, you know, i had a, a supervisor when i worked at the department store one time that was blind and not supporters from them and did what he told me to do. and but you had your freedom of use, do you had your liberty? could you imagine situation where you were look to slave a black master?
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well that, let me just say, then that's not something that i can just fully comprehend. imagine right here here in your question, but i'd be happy to think about that. okay. yeah, i'm just curious. i basically told them, i said, hey, i'm one of those new age young blacks that you fear. you sent me to a war. you made me notice how much i love america. you made me come back to my state. i got my education. and now what you've done is you created a muslim, someone who isn't afraid of someone who's going to come at you. whatever else a breath there. and we're going to make sure we get that flag. i will go that american mistake, you know, we are 40 and we can make the time. not be afraid of these guy because of the biggest house in the world. are you available? did you ever start the say? no. well, you're here because of the sort of funny man refunded me by the spring of 2017 cities and counties throughout the state had renew mistake
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flags from government buildings as well as all a public universities in the rallies and public meetings are becoming more confrontational. i want to physically make remove, which was what it did for me, and you get rid of that with whatever a layer job and takes it has to take it to devote to the people in mississippi pending claim, the shredder j a. this is our home. these are our symbols, this way that i made what appears to be a sign, but it's also she'll take a liquid to only give you an opportunity to run. wow,
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ah, a, a nearby morland's, a city with a 60 percent black population. the court to just to prove the city council's plan to remove 4 prominent confederate statues from public property, including the monument to jefferson davis, president of the confederacy for confederate heritage, supporters like george. their fears were coming true. confederate monuments were now under attack. their argument is this, these statues in the symbols of the southern people are racist and promote y
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supremacy. that is, there are you, we got this guy walk around with the communist black here. and he's going around just talking smack, just walking up people in just colonist white supremacists and racist and everything like that. but we are all willing to protect ourselves. if we feel threatened, we will use our weapons. or you barbara, now? yes sir. would you would you find out if i felt threatening my life was starting your day? right. i would really and you're willing to be shuttled now and this is a cause i'm willing to give my life or do you think that comes from for years and years, any time i'll walk around with my state flag. this is the flag of my state. and i get very sick and tired of being called a racist and i'm big it because it because
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i'm proud of forum from and it's came to a point then we're not gonna take it in an we've given we've compromised. we've lost a lot and we're not gonna lose anymore. when you're on the right side of history. it's always worth fighting for. oh, you don't know about reality dice this. otherwise you'd realize that this isn't like monuments. why supremacy how it fits on mon, you know, people and i was just because you say that job, it may be the most prejudiced i've ever heard in my life. you don't know any of these people in your car all why surprises do not hear prejudiced on them. that way we can still not back up a tower.
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they're looking for trouble. so they can get us, basically kicked out of here, arrested. rake our spirit. but we're not gonna fall for you guys, please get them over there and separate them before hits. the fein, if you would, we would greatly appreciate can i not go over on the other side of the street? there's grass over there. they're going to have a cookout over there, but they're over here trying to instigate us. you see, this is rolling, the window up on me is rolling the window. you see that? he just rolled the window up on me all him rode the window. i won't, what's your name and your badge number, sir. what's your name? your badge animal. what's your name in your badge number? it is almost may i get your name in your bedroom or not citizen? i ask you for your name and your badge number. you're supposed to get your public servant. you say they roll the window. they rolled the window up,
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they were there to protest the planned removal of a statue of confederate general robert, legally or wine on this day. it wasn't possible to separate confederates symbols from racist beliefs. oh, you're okay with 4 days later the jefferson davis statue was taken down. who and robert e. lee was removed from his pedestal. at least sir, oh,
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oh, i ah picked up would important job with celia was this because they did to squint a q a b q u o for do you quick teach that way? no, i'm reaching out to school and you have to that is from god left valuable. would you repeat the question for wishing i chief lending money will be there will be one moment. i'm with push lots and lots of them all. they're glad to book. then you what the competing that i'm just like, you know, i use one for saddam low scholarly. i'm, well i did some of our study to the coast and brought i used to finish. this is just a few. i'm actually putting the gum swing to do friday. of the month where you origin
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