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shot the past. like if you had all the amended said, please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young to why the a white dude. mm. a multiple me down. what happened at the mother of manuel and the church in charleston, south carolina. in the summer of 2015 was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun been stormed into a bible study. non church members died right before god another. these reward church church. what do we know about this man is and what is motivation may have been said, are you rape our women and you take it over our country and you have to go shortly after dylan roof was captured, investigators found

a racist manifesto. he posted on line, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate hair insights and with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder, of racism and hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a gut check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless last

few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well from around. even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they tell has got a special offer for race. and so we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney moving the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness, would not be an insult to the balance. federal sold me simply me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought in the cause of slavery. with 2 weeks later, the flag came down in south carolina. a. this is a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this,

the revel. banner rehab. it's hard for me. you know, i'm not going to you care about me. if you care about this bridge, the story is simple. 60, do you think the confederate flag at the fed? as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sits. there are government is sanctioning the chosen symbol of a terrorist organization on our state. far. i love the 7 or i love the in the southern bail. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i. my problem is the safe place to where they even want in not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us because mississippians that we should change, we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor a

i was born and raised in the north or my irish great great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married a mississippian, and of course we lived here now in the main street. the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner. and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory and he was

elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away me and jefferson davis's home. and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi county's our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew with the state flag and their yards something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi said people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere. in it a shame. okay,

my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons, a confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane laugh, some people lane, right? well i lean out, we want people to remember our past. what our ancestors went through, and this drives that we made i appreciate you being here, and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you present both sides positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all,

i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. mr. bate. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag, whose purpose should be to unite us, me ah ah me. the signs of confederate veterans purposes, not defend confederate, govern our purposes, to defend the good name of the confederate soldiers that you take,

which i take very seriously because of these monuments that you see everywhere or not, can they not monuments to the better government? there monuments to the, to the outreach to the veteran, most of the came back terribly wanted ah, ah, supplied that those men were masters of some sort in that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course for me, i'm fascinated with mississippi history in particular because the census and 1840 i think is a 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody, there were no people anywhere, and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and anyone that 20 years that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, you know,

that's a, that's how we got here was a staple determined to live room over the sanction. do not deal with her again are not only which was a in a study empowered in for anything not done. look, this state flag is she never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened. on june 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew hey, angela came down that paul walked in that church and you know, those people it was

a human being that did that not a flat open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open. it are, does something with the concussion? every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying the u. s. flag. why not be offended? because if that's what you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything out. mm

hm. if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you could get money in power here is if you kill a decent franchise, people you slade, plain and simple, always knew what the confederate emblem made to us as an african americans, but what can you tell me what it always meant? hatred, lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambler i feel that way because i leave you.

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with this whole issue is really a series to resist and you have to look beyond that. something's all just the red. but it's not just the way it represents. inequality has yet references, hatred in a flag was always present like it was. it's out your land. when those people were innocently shot, we got a flag, redman, this the fluid. we have that with the law. you have to b, o, b, a,

a funds of confederate batteries, and members of the k, k k. i say that they are christian. i just, it is my hope in mind is that god will push them to put tre. christine, how do you change the heart of a man?

well, the law may not change my house of men. it can, and it does change the habits of men. when you are begun by habit to man with a jay bird, his phone off will be june. my mother, she all for welfare wise for women. they holster down with hoses. she still held the bite marks on her leg from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like to know this, my mamma. why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was appalling when the news came on about the shooting. mamma say that they don't make no if i stood up and went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare. right. yeah. better do

something. and when she fe, gao better do something, we do something. ah, i'm the director of of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our state flay. it's gonna be hard, but is 9 impasse in you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for grace and mercy because you need a whole lot more than 200 people. march from j r. lead street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone not

long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and lee a campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i'm either going to sound so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone

else to deny that that exist. then li shooting and charleston happen. and i distinctly remember seeing the photo, dylan res, posing with the confederate flag and reading his bar post. and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul. right now. in america. do you think it makes them feel when they everywhere laid her? that flag is flying,

and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no. mm ah. this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. with that lawsuit whether the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie

musgrove decided to settle the issue with statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering at this time. voters will decide if the confederate symbol will phone the flag of 18. 941 by nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population for violence and intimidation. and a newly formed ku klux klan,

the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from the 9 us citizen, the right to vote based on race. and let's tell the truth of it 1st. the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them. in other convention, delegates confirmed this notion mm . mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah!

back all this by flag trade, the federal put the flags all over the story and i got the horizontal lamps hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag. so i'm a true blooded southern mississippi, southern maine and accept it. and i, i relish in it because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is, came from my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i'm a direct descendant of james jefferson johnson is my great, great great grandfather and the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a confirmed veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about doing some kind of a better organization is because of what's going on in the country discrimination

against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us, or what about discrimination against others. they accuse us of all being rices. you know, and it's a sign of a 1000000 is what the flag means, a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me out. the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today, where anytime i say that played out a magnet, things take it with what is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically, it's funny, however, you can't separate it from all that it is still for a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people have no evidence whatsoever. we're at

a moment we're we can do this right and well and respectfully, fraud involved. i don't like name calling. i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. so i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time is passed and they come along, i think. and right now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, aflac really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that there might be stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these

aspects of our history and our story. and of course, my grandfather was an us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as this dennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the status flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 894. ah, the recent g 20 meeting and bali and the west, it all, it could with the help of corporate media and to isolate russia,

all their efforts came to nothing. in fact, the opposite happened. russia was a welcome participant, nato's proxy war in ukraine. does united and much of the global south, its nature against the world. ah, the 1st time in history, an entire country's culture has been canceled to the very modern weapon cancel, culture. really desperate, wonderful. i wish i feel my last little one, but yet it just me sitting there with the phrase now, particularly for us to counseling russian culture. yet i know what she could have a few orders go because i get to when you're my for cure, which will be all there is chill out there that the most of the temperature random eat them, we what rushes created over the past 1500 years. there's no question,

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