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push me to police and some by the way, the way the manual char manual there'd be one and go on. and there's people thought, yeah, shot to pass it all the amended, the jed, please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young to anyone. you a white dude. mm. a multiple neighbor down. what happened at the mother of manuel and the church in charleston, south carolina, in the summer of 2015, was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun, been stormed into a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these people were in church, you're wearing church, what do we know about? oh, this man is, and what is motivation may have been said,

are you rape women and you take it over our country and you have to go shortly after dylan rufe was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line with dozens of images, posing that confederate harry of sites and with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder, of racism, hatred, and it is clearly a symbol of this killer. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a gut check of our values. corporate giants like

e bay target and wal mart stopped selling the items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless last few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well. we know even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they tell has got a special offer for race fan. so we can trade in your confederate flag for an american lot. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel. pastor clemente pinkney over the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness, not in salts, of the balance. federal sold me simply me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought. mm. the cause of slavery was then

2 weeks later, the flag came down and south carolina. oh, this is a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this, the revel. banner, rehab with your ours been made. you know, i'm not going to you care about me if you care about this bridge, the story is simple. fix take, do you think the confederate flag at the fed? as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets their hair. our government is sanctioning the shows and symbol of a terrorist organization on our state far. i love the 7 there. i love the in the southern bell, i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i . my problem is the safe place to where they even want in not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us because

mississippians that we should change, we're not gonna change. you know, i don't live here a i was born and raised in the north or my irish. great, great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer in the union army. but i married in mississippi, and of course we lived here now in the main street. the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis,

a mississippi plantation owner, and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away in jefferson davis. his home and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi counties, our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew the state flag and their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi shaped people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be

a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame like great. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane last, some people, elaine, right, or elaine's out, we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this prize that we made, ah, i appreciate you being here. and now i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you are present both sides on positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage,

supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee, after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside miss debate, and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided overstate flag, whose purpose should be, to unite us. ah, [000:00:00;00]

a sons of confederate veterans purposes, not to defend confederate government or purposes to defend the good name of the confederate. seldom of the take, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere or not, can there not monuments to better government there monuments to them, to the ultra, to the veteran, most of the came back terribly wanted ah ah, you supplied that those men were masters of some sort and that is not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course for me, i'm fascinated with mississippi history in particular because the census in 1840. i

think this 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to an absolutely raleigh and anyone there 20 years that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. oh, you know, that's a, that's how we got here was these people were determined to live rebel over the sanction. do not be a bad again. are not only which was a study, pardon for anything not done. look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened on june 17th in charleston,

south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and you know, those people it was a human being that did that lot of flat. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open. it are, does something with the concussion? every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the us flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington,

d. c. and they're only flying to us fly again. why not be offended? because if that's like, you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. or me. if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based, own money and power in the only way you could get money in power. you know, if you kill a decent franchise people it's like plain and simple. always knew what the confederate emblem made to us is an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant to hatred,

lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambulance? i feel that way because i leave it for ah, no one. no, sir. no, not a joke. no, no. what go more real to what they should end up unit 73. 1 was a unique organization in the history of the world. what they were trying to do was to simply do nothing short, then build the most powerful and most deadly biological weapons program that the

world had every now and real, no to production issue or show that they're not eligible. no new son, new rochelle, he on mom, mom to know margaret, that is meant union from all and i got the much sale. i got your name. i understood. i wish to know about joy. whoa, whoa, knew he didn't or gotten more pushed in jr. let's i had to put the discount and whether or not, but he built a couch that's going to go on what the on this the wow she my, and new on it all. i can send them all a, you know,

not all put them out. thank you. bye ah ah ah, a legacy is really a serious,

a rep with a flag was always present like it was. it's out your when those people get instantly shot, we got

a a confederate battery and members of the k k. k. say that they are christians. i just, it is my hope in my desire that god will touch them to portray christine how do you change the heart of man? well, okay, not a habits of men. when you're begun by habits, men who does a lot will be june.

my mother, she awful welfare wise for women. they holster down with hoses. she still held the bite marks only from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like to know there's my mamma. why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was appalling when the news came on about the shooting. mamma say they don't make no. yeah, i stood up. you went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare. right? yeah, better do something. and when she fe, alberta, do something. we do something a, i'm the director of of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been

going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flag. it's gonna be hard, but it's not impasse. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for grace and mercy because you need a whole lot. oh, more than 200 people. march from j. r. lynch street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons, it will be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and leah campbell,

an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast. for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. then li, sitting in charleston happened, and i distinctly remember seeing the photo, dylan res, posing with the confederate fire and reading his blog posts,

and then watch governor nikki haley has the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting with me right now. in america. do you think it makes them feel when they everywhere laid her? that flag is flying. what does that say? and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no.

mm ah. this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit letter, the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. now the mississippi flag is wavering and this time voters will decide

if the confederate symbol will phone the flag of 18. 941 by a nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white, mississippi had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation. and a newly formed ku klux klan, the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from the 9 us citizen, the right to vote based on race. and let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of

the university said we came here to exclude the and other convention. delegates confirmed this notion. mm . mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah! back all this flag, trade, the federal, put the flags all over this jury and i got a lamps hanging out. so i was, i was put some flag. so i'm a true blooded southern mississippi,

southern maine and accept it. and i relish it because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is, came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather and the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a confederate veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about, well known as some kind of a better organization is because of what's going on in the country discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us. or what about discrimination against southerners? they accuse us of all be in races, you know, and it's a sign of a 1000000 is what the flag means to

a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me out. the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today. we're in time, i say that played out americans, things take it with what is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically it's done however, you can separate it from all that it is still for a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people had no evidence, whatever were adamant we're we can do this right and well and respectfully, fraud involved. i don't like name callings, i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have

a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think. and right now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, aflac really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that there $900.00 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was an u. s. senate and i. he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of

policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as the stennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes. who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the stanish flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94. ah . at the recent g, 20 meeting and bali, the west did all it could with the help of corporate media to isolate russia, all their efforts came to nothing. in fact, the opposite happened. russia was a welcome participant, nato's proxy war in ukraine. does united much of the global south. it's native against the world. i'm willing to do it. you know,

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