me i me 9, when i went to the emergency plate, the bush police and somebody right away, the manual church manually went and there's people shot shot to pass on demanding the check. please come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young to anyone. why do me and

when you come in a shooter modem, what happened at the mother a manual and the church in charleston, south carolina. in the summer of 2015, with almost to her rhetoric to comprehend. the white gunman stormed into a bible study 9 church members die right before god another. use the word church. church. what do we know about who this man is and what is motivation and then your rape, our women. and you taken over our country, you have to go shortly after dylan roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted online, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate harry sites, in with confederate flags in now the focus of the nations outrage shift from the

killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder of racism, hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a get check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless the last few minutes amazon, just pull the flag as well. no. even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism that all has got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american. one. anti flag momentum reached

a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney moving the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness, not in salts, of the balance. federal sold me, sent me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought the cause of slavery. with 2 weeks later, the flag came down in south carolina a just to say, if i give gain, a lot of attention is all because of this, the raffle banner rehab, which are, are good me. you know, i'm not going to you care about me. if you care about the play, you ever had this bridge, the story, civil, fixed a, do you think the confederate flag of the as you can see it's about even i wish

somebody could just tell me why this sets their hair. our government is sanctioning chosen symbol. i've a terrorist organization on our state farm. i love. i love being the southern veil . i think we have that much flag we need to fight for my problem to me is the safe place to replace everyone in not a time in history. and what they're trying to do is they're trying to mississippi and that we should change it when you don't like it delivered me. you know why the rent, but i

me i was born and raised in the north in my irish great great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married in mississippi and, and of course we live here now. the main street in the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner, and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. he was elected president of the confederacy. ah, there's another jeff davis avenue, a short drive away. and jefferson davis, his home and presidential library is just up the highway like many to be

counties, our court house as a monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew the stake flag and their yards something i've never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi shaped papers by in mississippi state place? more than usual evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it. a shame like great. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons a confederate veteran. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family hold on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane laugh, some people lane, right?

well, i'll find out. we won't people remember our past what our ancestors went through, and this drives that way. i appreciate you being here, and i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you present both sides positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. mr. bate. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided over state flag whose purpose should be to unite us. me

ah ah me the sounds of confederate veterans purposes not defend confederate or purposes to defend the good name of the confederate soldiers that you take, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere or not, can they not monuments to the better government there monuments to the, to the soldiers, to the veterans. most of the came back terribly wanted,

ah replied that those men are masters of some sort and there's not truth. and i can't just sit there while that story gets told. there's no natural course for me. fascinated with mississippi history and particularly because the census in 1840 i think is the 1st one. everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and. and then within 20 years of that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, ah me, that's how we got here. was these people determined to ah,

rub oh, a get oh, only wish reward anus any, pardon for anything. i don't look this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened on june the 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and you know, those people it was a human being that did that. not a flag. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open. it are,

does something with the concussion. every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how fibrous was brought in under the us flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying the u. s. y again. why not be offended? because if that's what you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything with . if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based

on money and power in the only way you could get money and power. you know, if you kill a decent franchise, people in slade, plain and simple, always knew what the confederate emblem made to us as an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant you hatred, lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is she is the disgusting ambler i feel that way because i leave it with ah

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funds of confederate veterans. and members of the k k, k say that they are christians. i just it is my hope in my desire that god will push them to portray christine and how do you change the honda romanian? well, may not a man you can and it does change rehab man. when you're begun with ha ha will be june. my mother, she all for welfare wise for women. they holster down with hoses. she still had the bite marks on her leg from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was blind to

notice my mamma, why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no one was somebody to do that to her it was appalling . when the news came on about the shooting. mama said, don't make no yeah, i stood up and went to jail and gabby for human rights and civil rights and welfare. right. yeah. better do something. and when she say gal better do something, we do something. ah, i'm the director of of lanfield miss tippins coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flag. it's gonna be hard, but it's not in past. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank

god for grace and mercy because you need a whole lot more than 200 people. march from j. r lynch street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that will unify everyone not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it will be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and lia campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle

a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm hm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else organize about it. then the sitting in charleston happened and i distinctly remember seeing the photo, dylan res, posing with the confederate flag and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley has the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage.

oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting with me right now. in america. do you think it makes them feel when they everywhere laid her? that flag is flying. what does that face, and then we are better than that. mississippi is better than that. no. mm ah. this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 993,

the hon. ac piece to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit, whether the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie musgrove decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum, asking voter to choose between 2 flags the current flag at the time which had been adopted, $1894.00 and a new design. now the mississippi flag is wavering, and this time voters will decide if the confederate symbol will phone and the flag of 189-4158 nearly $2.00 to $1.00 margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened

a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution, the civil war had ended 30 years earlier. and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over and white, mississippi had regained political control from the majority, black population to violence and intimidation, and a newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from the 9 us citizen, the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them. in other convention, delegates confirmed this notion. mm

. mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively preventive generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah! back all this flag trade, the plan will put the flags all over the story and i got the horizontal lamps hanging out. so i was like, wow, that's why so i'm a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern man and, and accepted. and i are relish in it because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is, came from my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became

a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather and the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a concert veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about well known and some kind of like a better organization is because of what's going on in the country. discrimination against black people, discrimination against the jews with discrimination against us. or what about discrimination against southern they accuse us of all be in races, you know? and it's a sign of a 1000000 is what the flag means. a lot of people and that's why like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today we're in time, i say that by the automatic,

the things take it with what is referred to as a confederate flag. graphically, it's done however, you can separate it from all that it is still for a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people had no evidence whatsoever. we're adamant we're we can do this right and well and respectfully, fraud involved. i don't like name callings, i don't want rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think. and right now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as

a living symbol and document and piece of art that there $900.00 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose a color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these aspects of our history and our story. and of course, my grandfather was in the us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education integrating schools. and he was involved in the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as this dennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative

kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the status flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 894. the who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing, but i figure each of the problems to cause sure as we speak on the bill in your senior, mostly mine or wish you were banding all in ports of russian oil and gas news. i know they plenty of holes with the letter from, you know, we're pretty good regarding joe biden,

imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang. ah, that would important to have with them for to begin with celia was this because they did to squint it. you get a pretty nice new year for here. i teach the way, know i'm reaching out to school and you have to get it from google or valuable. you put the she's emma wishing i cim. i'm when you move, but the woman will, i'm all alone. mom william with bush not so not submit. any amount, they're glad of job then you what they continually. i'm just i get a month or so low scholarly, imo, they did some related study to live for carson brought you suicide. finished. this is just a section of when it comes when you do friday of the month where you are ordering

a shirt instrument and he has some other there was a little bit of good election. ah i met representative beside the rally in washington, d. c. oh, to introduce this dennis flag to a gallery of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag by laura, i love this because and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion about that i saw this flag and fell in love with it. and i really liked it when i found out that the designer was lauren. stan is lauren is the grand . busy daughter of senator johnston is he represented during the time of jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was ok.