when i felt powerless, we got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i fell to level the life after hey, is an organization that was founded by poor skinhead, neo nazi white supremacists in the u. s. in canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get half was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extreme was the 1st part of disengagement which is where you leave the social group. and then the next part is d. radicalization where belief systems ideologies are removed, it was very impactful when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, you heard my story did nothing to challenge it. validate did no, oh ah,

i now have an e mail folder called k k k. a transfer to your organization as big and what is your response? i'm proud to be a big a big main stand up. love god. what right in this world, i guess i'm proud of the big name is to be riding coalition. what i see just a bunch of homes, i measure your call for a local or state flag that will cause big and so being and we're stand up to what we believe was what's right and missing ratin coalition. others are not lacking in that's just their problem. with the client knew each ah, well,

the last question people need to know or it's like this to still exist that this hate, this ideology is, is in fact behind i am a lot of the support for the safe i. we must awaken, white racial, mislead, embodied down with mom. mom, mom are better than one day, and my wife is not going to stand by watch more and more. there's not just to show the what he's out of. no, no, you're like a, i'm not trying to change the k k k mind. i'm not trying to change the league of the south mind. i'm not trying to change the dixie alliance of mine. i'm trying to change mississippians that are good and do you care about their neighbors that maybe don't fully understand blue,

what impact a flag has on people that hurt the last time we saw you? you were new orleans. what was going through your mind during all that? it was crazy. if absolutely not something i never thought i'd ever say my laughter . but it happened. and, you know, i got arrested. i need to work on a smile on understand, make sure that they released all the news. yes, ma'am. here when i took my shot, because i was happy hour prior to what i did. i mean a southerners are getting tired of this entire being picked out. we get beat down and talk bad about all the time, especially certain people we talk about, mean acre, everything like that. and you know, i'm far from it. i'm far from make. i mean, i'm an engineer, you know, i'm, i have my little southern drought, not talk a little slow,

but i'm far from it. now. they want to start coming after our identity as southerners, you know, things that way. it makes us a better saying they want to erase it and why? why want to write something that happened in this country? you know, market you learn from because anytime you are right is banner. and that's why i'm saying today is we're fixing to start repeating history and things keep going in the bible and table that will be exactly what's going to happen. the whites are going to be put in the same account for, you know, are going to put out based live labor, minorities, your own, take over everything and you know, but bypass specialist. otherwise they put up there. they only say they'd rather die . you have a sense of where this is or a with

i've been damned many different. but not all of those people were near not believe me. you had people in that group that were there to protest that taking them a very, very support that you, they're responding to something that they say in the culture that they are aggrieved. i'm not to say that white people are wrong to, to rally around their pride in the race because their bios allowed to be part of the race. you know, proud to be

a white man. i'm not afraid to say that. oh, i should be. oh, if they'd asked me, i would say no good night, no torches because it doesn't. it looks militant, but that's what they were going right for me to their thinking back to time. we're white, we're in charge of everything. ah, i'm glad john became president. why? because a bow all the hatred in all the racism, there was hayden from the world. they made people feel comfortable in like we have arrived in the school by. yeah. because the answer christ has to show up for jesus to show. well, what do you think the last year since trump is done for us?

what's your, what's your take on it? it doesn't surprise me. it always has existing. here in mississippi we always have failed the. we say it was the yeah. the hatred, the operation door systemic racism, institutionally we've always, hey, i feel my nephews. oh logan. they are black little walls. do you honestly think they had the same opportunity as the little wible? now i'm a part of the poor people campaign where we're engaging in 40 days. wow. now right action see of what this obedience around, voters operation, mass incarceration. the corrections system plays on the poor and as

a parchment for an example, hard to me was building on the idea of come, big leasing. so there was just a continuation of slavery. they dictate, in control those men and women, there's a lot you create amongst those. when you take away all of their rights, you truly amazed is thought humans. that's what they did back in flavor. they did, they beat them. they say a medium today for nothing. they just come in and beat the hell out of them. so you tell me that is not the audiologist of comparison to keep people in bondage in. it's a better stay dressed up in a $5000.00. so that way

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another fun day for an introvert. and one of the chest of this fly. flying a top of the state. i was 100 percent. yeah. a new flag for a new mississippi designed by a grand daughter of the old south. the status flag is a hit more businesses fly it in jackson, the state capitol than fly. the state work out a complete flag source, the status why god sells the states official flag for to one. it is one of the only things less toxic, local environment that has bridge parties transcended the toxicity. and of that, i am immensely proud and happy or restful. every good. good. good. mm hm. ah, things are moving at a much slower pace that i had ever anticipated when i 1st got involved with. and

i'm learning just how nuanced and how slow the wheels of progress here in. mm hm. it's a gallery of white male, a late of mississippi. mm. with there's, there's not one portrait, or honorarium of any sort to a person of color in the state capitol. so maybe one afternoon, i typically like to remind everybody in my renewal at the manner with me may been going out are now we are

still fighting. i just want them to know then we will continue to fine. so let's be clear, just because you don't the doesn't mean we're not here. oh, a but i move. i 3 years had passed since i began working on this film. the flag of 1894 was still flying above the capital. and it felt like a solution was even further out of reach, like a dream deferred. ah, i wondered where all this anger and frustration would lead without dialogue or compromise. when those who had the power to solve the problem lacked the courage to do anything. to play

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video agency, roughly all band on youtube with ah, at the recent g 20 meeting in bali and the west did all it could with the help of corporate media to isolate russia all their efforts came to nothing. in fact, the opposite happened. russia was a welcome participates nato's proxy. war in ukraine. does united much of the global south it's native against the world. ah, re with sandra gorda is throwing in the old

hon and the snow falls about scheduling this concert out. the last dance have filled idealists we flung from does robberies from the end to lower the do it in b. c. do training a good gift away in the pals teacher skills at the edge on the ownership goal was to let them know that it gets in a little bulk. um yeah, the crucial chest middle school. the lesson was leaning wookey bone is not good. p t d, still not what you need to do with the leukemia. well they need to what with up she is. we can you video picks the ability to listen, somebody for the i guess when you go see, show the mrs piece they need in the middle south american off. and you can give us history up the duties, but also the miss nancy, this material will be the 3rd toss, but even in the supply, you need to locate those light elbows. you still located. it doesn't help at all with them you have yet to me. she go, she returns, ah, yes,

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a shame because disgraced somebody else is there more who a festus found the same way at the disgrace when i see i always come in love in me when i do anything, and i know a lot of people are not like, you know, my mom came in, but i did get her jail and b get the dow thick down though i don't know, but i do know that until we changed the system, nothing else which we have to change to 5th and we can't change the hearts and minds of people who believe that it's not a symbol. oh hey, in racism. when i left that afternoon,

i thought the story was over and one thing was becoming clear to me. what you believe about the flag depends upon who you are. but there are truths here, and the truth is uncomfortable. mississippi says, seated from the union to preserve slavery. they said so very clearly. ah, but the soldiers fought for other reasons to their families, their homes, a fierce desire for self determination. mm. and so we can believe that the confederate flag has brought feelings of pride and affection to generations of mississippians whose ancestors fought and died under in . mm. it's also true that the confederate flag represents a defeated southern nation set in trying the right of a white person to own

a black person, its constitution, and that same flag is favored by white supremacists today. right? so when black mississippians tell us that the confederate flag is a hurtful reminder of the brutal and inhumane treatment of their ancestors, we can believe them too. it's all true. there's both a sacrifice and an injustice that people of good faith can acknowledge. the question remained. what would it take to force a reckoning of these truths? nearly 2 years later, in the midst of a pandemic, we learned the answer. ah,

you remember the video of last night's confrontation shows a white police officer with his knee pinning down the neck of the south bank. the vase, you know, run with forgery is a is reminiscent of dirt gardener's very same words. i can't breathe with nearly 8000 people, joined black lives matter, mississippi to march the streets of downtown jackson was in your voices to her not just in the magnolia state, but across the country with your name in think about it in your nick 8 main important thing mm

hm i would say that the main number why we demand that for mobile. oh scanner example i within our to the black last not a protest pressure on the legislature intensified momentum is building did change mississippi think flag even as the legislative session winds down on martin joining in the fight against the state flag announcing it will remove a state flag from its mississippi stores, some of the most influential voices to remove mississippi flag come from faithfully yours across the state. the us marine corps is now banning all the pictures of the confederate battle flag at all. marine installations, united states navy plans to ban confederate flag,

all public space from workers. coaches from every mississippi public universities lobbied law makers to remove the states flag classroom could have gover debra hose, which is changing his tune, calling for the legislature to vote on the flag now. ah, it seems like it's coming to ahead with this potential both. to me it's monte funny that an event that happened, you know, 1037 miles away from jackson, mississippi is impacting mississippi. was an overwhelming vote of 85 to 35. it says that the lawmakers voted in favor on efforts to change their state slang. the call to the lives of black mississippians in this moment led to an unexpected turn. there is a major changed to one of the options that could be an alternative to mississippi's current state flag. launched in is

a designer of what has been known as the student flag is stepping away from the project in a continued effort to be of service. i'll be stepping away from this endeavor, as i understand the hurt and potential harm. my last name can cause, but i'll always continue to fight for mississippi and her people, which i consider both a duty and a joy. mississippi needs and deserves a new flag. help make it sound lauren. back at the capital confederate heritage supporters held rallies to express their frustration with the legislature. what are you willing to give? what are you willing to buy for legislature? i get our flag about allowing citizens, we have vote that they really angered a lot the they rob us of the way. i mean we,

mississippi already voted on it 2001 and they just took that away. they ignored in anger. betrayal, absolute sickness. how can you put bite in about dish? let's go with her. i'll tell you your voice on your boat. got your folks. what was going on in tonight? i'm signing a law to turn a page in mississippi by retiring the flag. we in 90 more. one more time with i don't hear me. yeah,

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ah ah, ah me history that way in our witness and i think as or is also there. they can be a better place for teacher to come in a ways we want to court here today. me legislation to change the state flag called for a commission to come up with a new design. the new flag cannot contain any symbols of the confederacy, and it must include words in god we trust in the commission solicited ideas for a new flag and receive thousands of on line submissions. and they chose

a bag noali, a design with 20 white stars, signifying mississippi as the 20th state to join the union. the gold star at the top of the circle represents mississippi's 1st peoples, the indigenous native american tribes of the land that would become mississippi. in november of 2020 mississippi voters approve the new design by a wide margin. and now our neighbors fly, the new mississippi state flag with

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