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oh, she introduced this dennis flag to a gallery of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag by laurence as i love it. and then, you know, we had a discussion about that. i saw this flag and fell in love with it. and i really liked it when i found out that the design of laura's then it lauren is the granddaughter of senator jazz standard. he represented during the time of jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was ok is just so important to me, to excel that over time and through the generations. people change, i'm a hip hop artist. i use the apartment and i respect honoring your ancestors. i honor mine and that's kind of i feel where the clash happens because no one's going to back down from that. but i need you to acknowledge the brutality that was carried
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out under that banner. and once you can do that, then hopefully a dialogue can begin and we can come to some sort of agreement because i'd rather have you as my neighbor than my enemy. we deal with a with
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it's pretty flag that's about the extent of it. it does not replace what we have. i understand, you know, the 20 stars the significance and what the meaning of that supposed to be, but nothing about it. honors a confederate veterans. the soldiers, nothin the cemetery that we're going to go. and i say cemetery, it's not much of a cemetery is just a few grades. but to me this is what our state flag is about. this is why our flag should remain the sign in this was originally just a small family cemetery. bow railroad tracks are in the same place. those or,
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and i ran from meridian to jackson and owned vicksburg. soldiers died on the train right up here. they didn't even know the names of the soldiers. these are some of the filings who fall and died and their families never heard from them. again. didn't know where they were buried. what happened to them? this one right here, it says a 6 brave soldier, sleep here. that's kind of ha, feel about it. they were brave, they were honorable by didn't fight to preserve slavery. they fought because their home was invited because their, their site ask them to and it was an honorable thing to do
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in with for how can you say that when that caused that you say that they fought so nobly for was girded up by slavery. the whole reason for mississippi getting into the civil war, they say very plainly, it's about preserving slavery. this, it goes back almost to our founding in this country, that the belief that america is a white man. and anybody else who comes here has to bow down to the white man's
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rules. so it's about white supremacy. it's about power and control. it's about maintaining the status quo. and any kind of change occurs in his country where those progress made towards diversity is responded to as it is a threat to the white man. if we're going to change his flag and then some brave white men going to have to stand up and step up. and it's got to happen in the midst of the legislature last legislative session. there were 19 bills related to the flag this session there 22. all of those bills related to change or a means by which we could change the flag, have been introduced by african american legislators. they bill for in support of the current state flag have all been introduced by white male,
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conservative legislators in 2001. the people in mississippi voted on a flag and 65 percent of the people voted to keep the current flag. well, i don't think we as elected representatives, have the right to overturn their decision. now, whether you like it or not, we can argue about that. but the decision was made by the people of mississippi to keep the current flag. so do you have a personal feeling about the flag? i personally believe that we should keep the flag. i think that the narrative that any m lorine thing there that harkens back to the civil war is somehow racist or in support of slavery is just wrong. what we have to do is spend the time to educate every one of what the real history
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with the belief that the flag issue will we settle when we all understand the real history of the civil war is attractive, but which part of the history confederate heritage supporters argued that the civil war was not fought to free the slaves because abraham lincoln himself said, so it is original inaugural address. he said, if i could preserve the union free and all the slaves, i do that i can preserve the union, but free some slice that i can preserve the union free. no, slight pat didn't. he was reserved in though lincoln was morally opposed to slavery . he held common racist beliefs and then there's the core when amendment colon name, it was proposed to actually legalize leg. and i tried to propose it to the southern
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people to get them to, to join, get back in the union, but they denied and they didn't want to have any part of it. all had it been about was slavery than the court amendment would fix that. because it stated that the south to perpetually keep is peculiar institution which referred to slavery. if they would not succeed from the union, the core one amendment passed both houses of congress in $1861.00. lincoln in his 1st inaugural address, said he would not interfere with it. had the corps would amendment been adopted before the civil war began. it would have provided a constitutional protection for slavery in the united states. and it would have been the 13th amendment but mississippi made it clear that they seceded to protect slavery, in part because they believed that black people were better suited to work in the oppressive heat. a requirement for picking cotton and some white mississippians
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feared that emancipation wouldn't just mean economic ruin. it would lead to something they fear, even more racial equality. this was made clear when a commissioner name william l harris was sent to georgia to persuade them to join mississippi in seceding from the union and form a southern confederacy of slave holding states in an address to the georgia general assembly. he said, our fathers made this a government for the white man, rejecting them as an ignorant, inferior barbarian race, incapable of self government. he concluded his speech, saying, mississippi would rather see the last of her race. men, women and children immolate in one common funeral pyre, can see them subjugated to the degradation of civil political and social equality with a race. georgia joined the confederacy. 3 months later with
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our previous president, it was there was nothing but a big hey. and it seemed like there was more of a, a war of rice war more speak on the wire is really what it was. this isn't a racial, they, not, my enemies will favor anything racial at all. we're, we're out here where stand for southern pri that hawaii knows heavily with his friends with judge roll up. i believe that will be able to come around everybody. clearly you just rested because it's like, don't stay in for i said it was just our heritage was sit down in a table and hash out the flag. a come to an understanding that this is the way we feel, regardless how you feel. you know, the way you feels while you feel we can change it. we're not asking you to change that. we're asking you to come to a place in your life where you can excel,
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what we do as we accept what you do, what the odds of that happening are slim and then irish, do we get freedoms down from okay. oh wow. i believe people will actually move a verse all rosy. religion in state flag, the flag of 18. $94.00 is the symbol of the mississippi that adopted the constitution of 18. 90 mississippi's governor. at that time, james arden unabashedly stated, mississippi's constitutional convention of 1890 was held for no other purpose than to eliminate from politics. let the world know it just as it is. governor varnum and also said if it is necessary, every oh in the state will be lynched,
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and it will be done to maintain white supremacy. sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, it is such a bad replace. very, they're not from quite frankly, but he's been good. that's fine, they can stay wherever they are. i liked this boyish, if i didn't like mississippi all li, if you don't like mississippi where you're leaving, i invite you to do the same. find some place where you can be here. i've been raised in the state and i love mississippi. if i'm a people to fiance, if you don't like it, you can go from where the math family be here for more than a century in that flag of deal when it is to me. no, i just want to take the flag away from you we, i don't you bad, you know, you're traveling in trying a yard. that's what the 1st amendment gives you. but without, without these date play, go, represent all mississippi and then flag that represent all those the voice
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killed when you suddenly a quarter. she'll keep on more more general martha, this is meant nguyen from all one of our new i'm i got the owner myself. i got your name. i got on monday. i wish enough about joy. oh, new. i know you didn't or guzzle more. polished enough, jr. let's i had to put all the sco their mother on all our buddy bill could you could help us out. nice. oh boy. good to go on what the on this the wow she my a new i'm all i can send more on all said mom. good. so you don't the year you're not on or put them out there to give us a lot. ah
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ah i know the law look is tori lo belong. it talks about how good to go unless they agree as well. so i was wrong with that you know, so that is hurtful to 30 percent. busy people in your room already shows up for this the alas,
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in the summer of 2015, the where with the assistance of compromising republicans, launched an attack on symbols representing the confederate states of america. after guillory last, donald trump was elected. there were rhymes from new york and we protestors, mostly minorities, can be seen in the demonstration, chance not a reply to that. maybe. what do you think? what about the answer is obvious. the flag bear with the numbers for your problem. we've heard that this is a little boy that gave me pain with very what about the people there to have a little boys that a
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a b, y. right? because there's a point of view that said why a long time i met re stores once before. and he said something to me in that conversation i'd heard from other confederate heritage supporters. but ray was the only one who set it on camera. he had said that slavery was it was, it was a natural condition. well, i know exactly what i said, but van, but i remember the interview,
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the relationship between the slave and the master was an accepted thing. and a, it was, there was a love between them. i wanna make sure i understand what you're saying here is that, that, that the van to matter all arrange. and you're saying that in the united states in mississippi, that it was a natural fate. slaver was natural and that the relationship could be a natural thing, could be yes, it could be no, there could be people who felt like it was on that like the slaves. some of them, perhaps you think it was not. um. yeah, i don't think it was already braves for okay. with the position. yes. i just accepted it as a as their station in life. do you see a situation where blacks could be masters to why would that be that? would that be now? and yeah, i think in some cases very well, you know, i had a, a supervisor when i worked at
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a department store one time that was bought. and i took orders from him and did what he told me to do, you know, but you had your freedom east, you had your liberty. could you imagine situation where you were the slave of a black master? will that let me just say that that's not something that i can just fully comprehend. and imagine right here here in your question, but i'd be happy to think about it. yeah, i'm just curious. i basically told him, i said, hey, i'm one of those new age young blacks that you fear. you sent me a little more. you may notice how much i love america. you made the comics on my state. i got my education. and now what? or someone who isn't afraid of someone who's going to come at you. whatever else a breath there. and we're going to make sure we get that flag. i will go down to where it seems like, you know, the real affordable. and we can make a time, not be afraid of these guys, because there are some the biggest house in the world. i asked, are you
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a better or did you ever start the say, no. well, you're here because of the sort of funny man refund. mm. by the spring of 2017 cities and counties throughout the state had renew mistake flag from government buildings as well as all a public universities and the rallies and public meetings are becoming more confrontational. now want to physically make remove, what would it be for me and you get a one layer job and takes it has to take it into both of the people, mississippi claim that a j a
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is our home. these are our symbols. they're like what appears to be upside, but it's also she take a liquid to only give you an opportunity to work with for nearby new orleans, a city with a 60 percent black population. the court to just to prove the city council's plan to remove 4 prominent confederate statues from public property, including the monument to jefferson davis, president of the confederacy for confederate heritage,
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supporters like george. their fears were coming true, confederate monuments were now under attack. their argument is this, these statues and the symbols of the southern paper are racist and promote y supremacy. that is, there are you, we got this guy walk around with the communist flag here. and he's going around just talking smack, just walking up people and just the colonists, white supremacists, and racist and everything like that. but we are all willing to protect ourselves. if we feel threatened, we will use our weapons. or you, barbara, now, yes sir. would you, would you find out if i felt threatening my life will start in your day, right? i would really and you're willing to be shuttled now and this is a cause i'm willing to give my life or do you think that comes from right? for years and years, any time i'll walk around with my state flag. this is the flag of my
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state, and i get very sick and tired of being called a racist and a big it because it because i'm proud of where i'm from. and it's came to a point. then we're not gonna take it in an we've given we've compromised. we've lost a lot. we're not gonna lose any more. when you're on the right side of history, it's always worth fighting for. oh, you don't know about reality dice this. otherwise, you'd realize that this isn't like monument. why supremacy? i mean it's a monument, know people, and i'll just because you say that job,
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it may be the most prejudice i've ever heard in my life. you don't know any of these people in your car, all white supremacy of prejudiced on them. a call me tower. they're looking for trouble. so they can get us. basically kicked out of here, arrested. break our spirit. but we're not gonna fall for you guys. please get them over there and separate them before hits the fan, if you would, we would greatly appreciate. can i not go over on the other side of the street? there's grass over there. they're going to have a cookout over there, but they're over here trying to instigate us. you see this is rolling the window up on me. he's rolling the window. you see that? he just rolled the window up on me. all enrolled the window. i went,
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what's your name and your badge number, sir. what is your name? your badge animal was your name and your badge number. it is all my shirt. may i get your name and your badge? no more. not citizen, asking for a name and your badge. number, you're supposed to gave it your public servant. you say they roll the window. they rolled the window up, they don't care. there won't in trouble. there was a a, we're going with, i got a with a
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wait, it's all about a year for history. you've read the article about maintaining, played with a with ah
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ah ah, ah, ah ah aah! in response to the violence of the jefferson davis monument, a group of self identifying white supremacists and neo nazis gathered at least circle in new orleans. where a white civil rights organization with
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they were there to protest the planned removal of a statue of confederate general robert lee, or why on this day it wasn't possible to separate confederate symbols from racist beliefs. o u. a 4 days later that jefferson davis stature was taken down, who and robert e. lee was removed from his pedestal. at least circle. ah
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