tv Documentary RT November 26, 2022 3:30am-4:00am EST
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when you come in a shooter, what happened at the mother emmanuel and the church in charleston, south carolina. in the summer of 2015 was almost to her rhetoric to comprehend. the white gunmen stormed into a bible study 9 church members die right before god another. use the word church. church. what do we know about who this man is and what is motivation? and then you re follow women and you taken over our country. you have to go shortly after dylan roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted online with dozens of images, posing that confederate, harry of sites and with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's
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outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain within its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become a symbol of murder of racism patron and it is clearly a symbol of this chiller. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a moment for society to really do a gut check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. in less last few minutes, amazon just pull the flag as well. or even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they all has got a special offer for race fan,
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so we can trade in your confederate flag for an american. one. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney moving the flag from the state. capital would not be an act of political correctness. not in salt of the malin confederates sold me, sent me an acknowledgement that the cause for which they fought. mm. the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later, the flag came down and south carolina in this is a fight. getting a lot of attention is all because of this, the revel. banner rehab, which are good make, you know, i'm not going to you care about me if you care about this for the story is simple. 60, do you think the confederate flag at the fed?
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as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sits, there are government as sanctioning that shows and symbol of a terrorist organization on our state. far. i love the 7 or i love be in southern bail. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight. i know my problem is the safe place to where they even want in not a time in history. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to fill us because mississippians that we should change, we're not gonna change. you know, i get the liquor a standing in line with
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our, with i was born and raised in the north or my irish. great, great grandfather, michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married a mississippian and of course we lived here. now. the main street in the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner, and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis avenue short drive away in jefferson davis's home. and presidential library is just up the highway
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like many mississippi counties, our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew the stake flag in their yards. something i'd never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi said people are buying mississippi way more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it, a shame like great. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family on both sides union and confederate,
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but if some people lane last sunday, the lane right, or elaine's out, we won't people to remember our past what our ancestors went through. and this prize that we made, ah, i appreciate you being here. and now i hope that when you're doing your documentary that you are present both sides on positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee, after all, i assured him and everyone else i spoke to in the film that i wasn't going to choose aside miss debate. and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided overstate flag,
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can there not monuments to better government their monuments, to the, to the alters to the veteran. most of the came back terribly wanted ah, ah, you supplied that those men were masters of some sort and that is not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course, for made it fascinated with mississippi history in particular, because the census in 1840. i think this 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody. there were no people anywhere. and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and anyone there 20 years of that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, you know, that's
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a, that's how we got here. was these people were determined to live rebel over the sanction. do not be a bad again, our only which was a study empowered in for anything not done. look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up if it wasn't for what happened. on june 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and you know, those people it was a human being that did that not a fly. open
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your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open. it are, does something with the concussion? every flag has its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how slavery was brought in under the u. s. flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying to us fly again. why not be offended? because of that's what you know if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. with
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if you say you are fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based, own money and power in the only way you could get money and power here. new style is if you kill a decent franchise, people in slade, plain and simple, always new would do better, an emblem mid to us as an african americans. but what can you tell me what it always meant to hatred, lynchings, beatings, poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambler?
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i feel that way because i leave it with l. look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. and the point obviously is to great trust, rather than fear i would like to take on various job with artificial intelligence. real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with ah,
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it was important to have with celia was this because they get to school need to get a new year. oh for if i teach that way, no, i me teaching should tosto. you have to get a little bit though, for she's emma wishing to achieve alamahood for the woman ramon william formula from sterling from bush lots and lots of putting them on the lot of giblin you her what they came to the net. i'm just, i guess one who said that lowest lee i'm, i would, i would need someone to of 33 because i used to wish i had finished. this is just a fraction of when it comes when you do friday, the mentor you owe them a share in tremendous amount that was hospital to put it in
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how do you change the however many la, la la may not change my house of man. you can and it does change your habits of men . when you are begun, i have a 2 men who it is only added, who do j. phone off will be june. my mother, she all for welfare rights for women. they holster down with hoses. she still had the bite marks owner laid from the doll, and she also went to jail. and i was like to notice my mamma. why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no. why would somebody do that to her? it was appalling when the news came on about the shooting. mom was say that they don't make no sense. if i stood up and went to jail and get
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beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights, ya'll better do something. and when she say a yell, better do something, we do something i'm the director of of lanfield mississippians coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the confederate emblem from our stay flag. it's gonna be hard, but is 9 impasse. you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just thank god for oh, ah grace and mercy. because you need a whole lot more than you had a bigger march from g r. lead street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that were unified. everyone in,
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not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons, it would be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and lee a campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast. for me as a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white, mississippi in a person of privilege, to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone
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else to deny that. then li, sitting in charleston happened, and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan roof posing with the confederate ard and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state health ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul and sent me right now. looking at me or do you think it makes them feel when they ever were laid her? that why is why,
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what are we on miss day is better than that i with with this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993, the n double a c p to the state to change the flag for familiar reasons. about that, about latins latins love that lawsuit leather. the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor ronnie
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musgrove decided to settle the issue with the statewide referendum. asking voter to choose between 2 flags, the current flag at the time which had been adopted in $1894.00 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering. and this time voters will decide if the confederates symbol will follow the flag of 18941 by a nearly 2 to one margin, settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution, the civil war had ended 30 years earlier. and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black. reconstruction was over, and white mississippians had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation,
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and newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from to 9 a citizen, the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude a other convention. delegates confirmed this notion in mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively prevented generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later, it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born.
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ah! back all this flag, trade the federal flags all over the street. you know, because i got the, the horizontal lambs hanging out. so i was, i was, i am a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern man and, and, and accept it. and i are relish in it because that's who i am. that's who i, where my family has came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather. he fought in the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a concert veteran certificate. what really got me just fired over route. normally some kind of like
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a better organization is because of what's going on in the country. the maneesha, it's black people, discrimination against the jews, was discrimination against us or war mom is currently engaged in southern they accuse us of all be in races, you know, and it's a fine of a 1000000000 is what the flag means to a lot of people and that's why i like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put a stop to it before you know a got to the point that is today. we're tommy, why caesar play the automatic, the things k k p person. mm hm. what is referred to as a confederate flag? graphically, it is done. however, you can separate it from all that it is stood for an a negative sounds a lot for us to have a symbol about which people had no hesitancy whatsoever. we're at
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a moment where we can do this right and well and respectfully drawn bought. i don't like name coins, i don't like rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a thread, and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along, i think. and all right, now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that they're 19 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all of these
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aspects of our history. and our story. of course, my grandfather was a us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers at the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design known as this dennis flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the spanish flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 1894. ah,
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with i've actually found safety embraces now, since i'm as a jew, all of a sudden you're placed in a position where i can defend myself. now, i don't know how to be afraid anymore. on one hand, i'm terrified that they're going to find that i'm jewish, but on the other, i think it's so far away. i distinctly remember my mom sitting me down one night and her st. john, they're going to hurt you. one guy, hunch me behind my ear, but aren't somebody so now in the rest of the punches are started flying and somebody shouted out, died, you boy die down. point i knew i remember had an indian doctor. they came in and looked and said, there's no medical reason why years you should be alive. you to find something to
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believe, john story, to the story of ho story, victory, and whatever i can do. to help him, i would go with disturbing images up ahead. a civilians killed in the latest ukrainian bombardments have done yet, as he had st. fell the region 39 times in the past 24 hours. we report from the c u. s. the military base and syria comes under attack and comes amid rising tensions between nato allies, takia and the u. s. over in africa, gonna announce is a possible shift toward using gold instead of us dollar voice oil put in the
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