tv Documentary RT November 26, 2022 12:30pm-1:01pm EST
12:30 pm
ah i met representative sites at a rally in washington, d. c. o t introduced this dentist while i do a gallery of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag about laura status. i love it. and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion about that i saw this flag and fell in love with it. and i really liked it when i found out that the design of laura's dentist, lauren, is the granddaughter of senator jazz standard. he represented during the time of
12:31 pm
jim crow where they thought that separate but equal was ok is just so important to me to excel that over time through the generations. people change, i'm a hip hop artist. i use hip hop when lie in and i respect honoring your ancestors. i honor mine and that's kind of i feel where the clash happens because no one's going to back down from that. but i need you to acknowledge the brutality that was carried out under that banner. and once you can do that, then hopefully a dialogue can begin. and we can come to some sort of agreement because i'd rather have you as my neighbor than my enemy. we deal with a client of the candle dad back
12:32 pm
a have one with ah, it's a pretty flag that's about the extent of it. it does not replace what we have. i understand, you know, the 20 stars and the significance and what the meaning of that supposed to be, but nothing about it. honors confederate, veterans of the soldiers, nothing. this cemetery that we're going to go and i say
12:33 pm
cemetery, it's not much of a cemetery is just a few grades. but to me this is what our state flag is about. this is why our flag should remain the same with this was originally just a small family cemetery. bow railroad tracks are in the same place. those or, and i ran from meridian to jackson and owned vicksburg. soldiers died on the train right up here. they didn't even know the names of the soldiers. these are some of the files ins who fall and died and their families
12:34 pm
never heard from them again. didn't know where they were buried. what happened to them? this one right here it says a 6 brave soldier sleepier and that's kind of ha, feel about it. they were brave. they were honorable. by didn't fight to preserve slavery. they fought because their home was invited because there are state, ask him to and it was honorable thing to do in how can you say that when that caused that you say that they fought so nobly for
12:35 pm
was girded up by slavery. the whole reason for mississippi getting into the civil war, they say very plainly, it's about preserving slavery. and it goes back almost to our founding in this country that, that the belief that america is a white man. and anybody else who comes here has to bow down to the white man's rules. so it's about white supremacy. it's about power and control. it's about maintaining the status quo. and any kind of change occurs in this country where those progress made towards diversity is responded to as it is a threat to the white man. if we're going to change this flag and some brave white
12:36 pm
men going to have to stand up and step up. and it's got to happen in the midst of the legislature. a last legislative session, there were 19 bills related to the flag this session there 22. all of those bills related to change or means by which we can change the flag has been introduced by african american legislators. they bill for in support of the current state flag have all been introduced by white male, conservative legislators in 2001 the people of mississippi voted on a flag and 65 percent of the people voted to keep the current flag. well, i don't think we as elected representatives, have the right to overturn their decision. now, whether you like it or not, we can argue about that. but the decision was made by the people of mississippi to
12:37 pm
keep the current flag. so do you have a personal feeling about the flag? i personally believe that we should keep the flag. i think that the narrative that any em lorine thing there, that harkins back to the civil war is somehow racist or in support of slavery is just wrong. what we have to do is spend the time to educate every one of what the real history of. mm hm. in the belief that the flag issue will be settled when we all understand the real history of the civil war is attractive. but which part of the history confederate heritage supporters argued that the civil war was not fought to free the slaves?
12:38 pm
because abraham lincoln himself said, so it is original inaugural address. he said, if i could preserve the union free and all the slaves, i do that. i can preserve the union, but free and some slice that i can preserve the union. afraid dumpsite pat, keywords preserve, inc. and though lincoln was morally opposed to slavery, he held common racist beliefs. and then there's the core when amendment colon name, it was proposed to actually legalize leg. and i tried to propose it to the southern people to get them to not to join, get back in the union, but they denied and they didn't want to have any part of it. all, had it been about was library. then the coord amendment would fix that because it stated that the south to perpetually keep is peculiar institution which referred to labor. if they would not succeed from the union. the core one amendment passed
12:39 pm
both houses of congress in 1861 lincoln, in his 1st inaugural address, said he would not interfere with it. had the corps would amendment been adopted before the civil war began. it would have provided a constitutional protection for slavery. in the united states, and it would have been the 13th amendment but mississippi made it clear that they seceded to protect slavery. in part because they believed that black people were better suited to work in the oppressive heat. a requirement for picking cotton and some white mississippians feared that emancipation wouldn't just mean economic ruin . it would lead to something they fear, even more racial equality. this was made clear when a commissioner name william l harris was sent to georgia to persuade them to join mississippi in seceding from the union and form a southern confederacy of slave holding states in an address to the georgia general
12:40 pm
assembly. he said, our fathers made this a government for the white man rejecting them as an ignorant, inferior barbarian race, incapable of self government. he concluded his speech, saying, mississippi would rather see the last of her race. men, women and children immolate in one common funeral pyre than see them subjugated to the degradation of civil political and social equality with a race. georgia joined the confederacy. 3 months later, out with our previous president, it was there was nothing but a big hate. and it seemed like there was more of a war of a race war. more speak on the wire is really what it was. this isn't a racial being that my enemies will play for anything racial at all. we were out here where stand for southern prior
12:41 pm
that white note boy with his prize we're, we're downgrade all of our believe that will. they will be able to come out and everybody finally, you just rested because it's like, don't stay in for a show mister starr hurt it was set on a table and hash out with a clam to an understanding that this is the way we feel. regardless how you feel, you know what the way you feels while you feel would change where we're asking you to change what we're asking you to come to a place in your life where you can excel. what we do as we say up what you do. but the odds of that happening are slim. and then i honestly believe that freedom that down wrong is going to allow us i believe people will relax a little more. i invest all righty, colors and religion with
12:42 pm
her and say flag flag of 18. $94.00 as a symbol of the mississippi that adopted the constitution of 18. 90 mississippi. as governor at time james arden unabashedly stated, mississippi's constitutional convention of 1890 was held for no other purpose than to eliminate from politics. let the world know it just as it is. governor varnum and also said if it is necessary and every oh in the state, the lamps, and it will be done to maintain white supremacy. sometimes you'll hear people say, oh mister sidney is such a bare place there are from you quite frankly, but you think that's fine, they can stay wherever they are. i like this bush. if i didn't like this is to be. ready are if you don't white mississippi and we're leaving, i invite you to do the same. find some place where you can be happy. i've been
12:43 pm
raised in this state. and i'd love to see if i'm a people to sit there and say, if you don't like it, you can go somewhere else. my family have been here for more than a century in that way i guess deal what it is to me. no, i just want to take the flag away from you. we're talking about it when you're traveling, hiring a yard. that's what the 1st amendment gives you. but we're talking about these date play. they represent all mississippi and in that way i do not represent all those. that's the point. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy presentation. let it be an arms race is offensive. very dramatic development. only really i'm getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk with
12:44 pm
business and you will clean a, b, e l does not a shoes on. yeah. maybe comes a lot of it is just touching up could it can also provide you with stuff such and sure emma's names, you've talked to the difference, didn't inform the child wishing that you use her own the with them the problem you're still with you as a study she was on the new point of choice. it was coming to the on off on all things to put it which, which longer you bullshit just in the social, not political push to sustainable remote because there's no way to political. you school, go with
12:45 pm
these for us to play in finances come on both. i know the law, look, it talks about low one. it talks about how good to walk again unless they agree. wow. that was wrong with taking a sample that is hurtful to 37 percent of. busy people in your a last, in the summer of 2015, the way with the assistance of compromising republicans, launched an attack symbols representing the confederate states of america. after guillory last dial shawn was elected. there were rhymes from july and we protestors, mostly minorities, can be seen in the demonstration chant,
12:46 pm
did not president a reply to that and maybe what do you think whatever the answer is obvious, the flag bear with the numbers for you probably heard already. so what about a little boys with barry? what about the people there to have a little boy, a feminist, a b y b. why? why? because there's a point of view that says we can't keep the way
12:47 pm
a name . i met re shores once before and he said something to me in that conversation i'd heard from other confederate heritage supporters. but ray was the only one who set it on camera. you'd said that slavery was it was, it was a natural condition. well, know exactly what i said, but remember the interview, the relationship between the slave and the master wasn't accepted thing and a, it was there was a love between them. i want them to understand what you're saying here is that, that, that the matter will arrange. and you're saying that in the united states in mississippi, that it was a natural fate. slaver was natural and that the relationship could be a natural thing, could be yes, it could be no, there could be people who felt like it was on that like the slaves. some of them
12:48 pm
perhaps. so you think it was not um. yeah, i don't think it was already braves for okay. with the position. yes. i just accepted it as a as their station in the law. do you see a situation where blacks could be masters to wise? would that be that? would that be now? and yeah, i think in some cases it very well, you know, i had a, a supervisor when i worked at a department store one time that was blind and not to orders from him and did what he told me to do it. but you had your freedom east, you had your liberty, could you imagine situation where you were looking to slave a black master? well that let me just say that that's not something that i can just fully comprehend. and imagine right here here in your question, but i'd be happy to think about it. okay. yeah,
12:49 pm
i'm just curious. i basically told him, i said, hey, i'm one of those new age young blacks that you fear. you sent me to a war. you made me notice how much i love america. you made me come back to my state. i got my education. and now what you've done is you've created it was someone who isn't afraid of someone who is going to come at you every house. a breath there, and we're gonna make sure we get that flag that i will go that american state, you know, we are 40 percent and we can make that not be afraid of these guys because of the biggest. are you a veteran? did you ever so he said, no, well, you're here because of lisa. he has a funny man, refunded me by the spring of 2017. the cities and counties throughout the state had renew mistake flags from government buildings. as well as all 8 public universities in the rallies and public meetings are becoming more
12:50 pm
confrontational. now, want to make remote reformers. but if it hurt me and use me, get rid of that with when 1 may or june and take to the phone has failed to take it to devote to the people in mississippi pending claim, the shredder j a is our home. these are our symbols that might what appears to be a sign, but it's also she take a 2nd to only give you an opportunity to wrong with
12:51 pm
in nearby morland's a city with a 60 percent black population, the court to just to prove the city council's plan to remove 4 prominent confederate statues from public property, including the monument to jefferson davis, president of the confederacy for confederate heritage, supporters like george thur fears were coming true. confederate monuments were now under attack. their argument is this, these statues in the symbols of the southern people are racist and promote y supremacy. that is, there are you, we got this guy walk around with the communist black here and he's going around just talking smack, just walking up people and just the colonists,
12:52 pm
white supremacists and racist and everything like that. we're all willing to protect ourselves. if we feel threatened, we will use our weapons. or you barbara, now? yes sir. would you, would you find out if i felt threatened in my life? we're starting your day, right? i would really and you're willing to be shot on it now, and this is a cause i'm willing to give my life or do you think that comes from for years and years, any time i'll walk around with my state flag. this is the flag of my state, and i get very sick and tired of being called a racist and a big it because it because i'm proud of for i'm from and it's getting to a point then we're not gonna take it in an we've
12:53 pm
given we've compromised, we've lost a lot and we're not gonna lose anymore. when you're on the right side of history, it's always worth fighting for it. you don't know about reality dice this, otherwise you'd realize that this isn't her mom. you maximize the pharmacy? i would it's, i was just because you say that just make me the most prejudice i've ever heard in my life. you don't know any of these people in your car, all why supremacy not prejudiced on them? a shower. they're looking for trouble so they can get us
12:54 pm
basically kicked out of here, arrested. break our spirit. but we're not gonna fall for you guys. please get them over there and separate them before hits the fan, if you would, we would greatly appreciate. can i not go over on the other side of the street? there's grass over there. they're going to have a cookout over there, but they're over here trying to instigate us. you see this is rolling the window up on me. he's rolling the window. you see that he just rolled the window up on me all rolled the window. i work, what's your name and your badge number, sir. what's your name? your badge. annabelle, what's your name? your badge number is alma, may i get your name and your badge or more not citizen? i asked you for a name and your badge number. you're supposed to gave it your public servant. you say they roll the window, they rolled the window up, they don't care. there won't trouble. there was a
12:55 pm
12:57 pm
ah, ah ah, ah, in response to the violence at the jefferson davis monument, a group of self identifying white supremacists and neo nazis gathered at least circle in new orleans for a white civil rights organization with they were there to protest the planned removal of a statue of confederate general robert lee. or on this day
12:58 pm
it wasn't possible to separate confederate symbols from racist beliefs. a room with 4 days later that jefferson davis statue was taken down, who and robert e. lee was removed from his pedestal, at least sir, ah, ah, i've actually found safety in the braces. naziism is a jew, all of a sudden, you're placing the position. i can defend myself now. i don't not be afraid any more. on one hand, i'm terrified that they're going to find out i'm jewish, but on the other, i think it's so far away. i distinctly remember my mom sitting me down one night
12:59 pm
and her st. john, they're going to hurt you. one guy hunched me behind my ear that heard somebody shot now, and the rest of the punch was just started flying. and somebody shouted out, died you boy died. and at that point i knew i remember had an indian doctor. they came in and looked and said, there's no medical reason why you're you should be a lot new to find something to believe. john story is a story of ho story, victory, and whatever i can do. to help him, i would go with a garage and a speeding. a no one rush away
1:00 pm
with the realization implementation of article 5. no one rational wants to go into more which washer, which has just logical outcome exchange in the end of life letter a nazi international, some graphic, distressing image. if someone don't, yes, because we report from the scene of some of the latest ukrainian shelling off the russian, stacy killing a local, preventing an american military base in syria, comes on the attack, made wising tensions between nato allies, turkey on the west side, the uncouth targeting of kurdish territories with in africa gone down to that possible shift towards using gold instead of the way solar boys international
30 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on