music rattling or is it not liking to mess around with people need to know the group like this to still exist that this hate, this ideology is, is in fact behind i am a lot of the support for the safe i we must awaken white race from a sleep and marty down with mom. my mom a mentor just wondering why is not going to say i was more and more there's not just to show the when he's out of no, no you're like gordon. i'm not trying to change the k k k mind. i'm not trying to change the league of the south mind. i'm not trying to change the dixie alliance as mine. i'm trying to change mississippians that are

good and they said, care about their neighbors that maybe don't fully understand blue . what impact a flag has on people that are hurt the last time we saw you. you were new orleans. what was going through your mind during all that? it was crazy. it was absolutely nuts. something i never thought i'd ever say my laughter. but it happened and you know, i got arrested. i need to work on my smile on notice that my shot that they released on the news. yes ma'am, here when i took my shot, because i was happy else prior to what i did. i mean, a southerners are getting tired of the entire being picked out. we get beat down and talk bad about all the time, especially certain people we talk about, mean acre, everything like that. you know,

i'm far from it. i'm far from make. i mean, i'm an engineer, you know, i'm, i have a little southern drought, not talk a little slow, but i'm far from it. now. they want to start coming after our identity as southerners, you know, things that way. it makes us a better say they want to erase it and why? why want to write something that happened in this country? you know, market you learn from because anytime you are a banner and that's why i'm saying today is we're fixing our big history. if things keep going in the bible and paper that will be exactly what's going to happen, the whites are going to be put in payments for, you know, or don't put out the slave labor, minorities your own, take over everything and you know, but a, they'd rather die, you haven't sent the word or a

i've condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were near not just believe me. you had people in that group that were there to protest to taking them a very, very support that you, they're responding to something that they say in the culture that they are aggrieved. i'm not to say why people are wrong to,

to rally around their pride in their race because their bios allowed to be part of the race. you know, proud to be a white man. i'm not afraid to say that. no, i should be. oh, if they'd asked me, i would say no good night, no do torches because it doesn't. it looks militant, but that's what they were going right for me to their thinking back to time. we're white, we're in charge of everything. ah, i'm glad john became president. why? because a bow all the hatred in all the racism. there was hayden from the world that made people feel comfortable in like we have a rad. that needs to come by. yeah. because the answer christ has to show up for

jesus to show. well, what do you think the last year since trump is done for us? what's your, what's your take on it? it doesn't surprise me. it always has existing. here in mississippi, we always have failed. we say it was the the hatred, the oppression though, systemic racism, institutionally. we've always, hey, i failed my nephews, oliver. they are black little walls. do you honestly think they had the same opportunity as the little wible? now i'm a part of the poor people's campaign where we're engaging in 40 days. wow. now rate action here with this obedient around voters,

separation mass incarceration. the corrections system plays on the pool and apps a parchment for an example. hard to me was billed on the idea of come, big leasing. so there was just the continuation of slavery. they dictate in control those men and women, there's a lot new create amongst those. when you take away all of their rights, you truly amazed humans. that's what they did back in flavor. they did, they beat them. they say a medium today. for nothing, they just come in and beat the hell out of them. so you tell me that is not the ideologies of comparison to keep people in bondage in the computer say dressed up in

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today, a crew from cbs eating news is coming in from a studio. you know, another monday for an introvert. and one of the chest of this fly. flying a top of the state. i was what? i was a 100 percent. that's a new flag for a new mississippi designed by a granddaughter of the old south. the status flag is a hit. more business is fly it in jackson, the state capitol than fly, the state work at a complete flag source. the status why i got cells, the states official flag for to one. it is one of the only things and as toxic local environment that has bridge parties transcended the toxicity. and of that i am immensely proud and happy or graceful. every good. good, good. mm

hm. things are moving at a much slower pace that i had ever anticipated when i 1st got involved with. and i'm learning just how nuanced and how low the wheels of progress here and as a city. mm hm. it's a gallery of white male, a late of mississippi with there's, there's not one portrait, or honorarium of any sort to a person of color in the state capitol. so it one afternoon, i would like to remind everybody in my renewal at the manda

with going out are we are still fine. i did want them to know then we will continue. so let's be clear, just because you don't see us. doesn't mean we're not here. oh, a, i mean 3 years had passed since i began working on this film. the flag of 1894 was still flying above the capital. and it felt like a solution was even further out of reach. like a dream deferred. ah, i wondered where all this anger and frustration would lead without dialogue or

compromise. when those who had the power to solve the problem lacked the courage to do anything. to play with cale so many people i had a i've actually found safety and embraces naziism as a jew, all of a sudden you're placed in a position where i can defend myself. now, i don't have to be afraid anymore. on one hand, i'm terrified that they're going to find out i'm jewish, but on the other, i think it's so far away. i distinctly remember my mom sitting me down one night and her st. john, they're going to her. you one guy, hunched me behind my ear when i heard somebody shot now,

and the rest of the punch is just started flying. and somebody shouted out, died, you boy died. and at that point i knew i remember had an indian doctor. they came in and looked and said, there's no medical reason why you should be alive. you to find something to believe . john story is a story of ho story, victory, and whatever i can do to help him i want you to what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy. even foundation, let it be an arms race is on a very dramatic development. only personally and getting to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk about

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what's your sense of what happened to be honest part of me a shame because the story somebody else is there more? who is this phone that by way, at the disgrace when i see i always come in love in peace when i do anything and i know a lot of people are not like, you know, my mom came in but got her jail and b. the dow down, so i don't know, but i do know that until we change the system, nothing else which we have to change to face. we can change the hearts and

minds of people who believe that it's not a symbol of haste in racism. when i left that afternoon, i thought the story was over, and one thing was becoming clear to me. what you believe about the flag depends upon who you are. but there are truths here. and the truth is uncomfortable. mississippi seceded from the union to preserve slavery. they said so very clearly. ah, but the soldiers fought for other reasons to their families, their homes, a fierce desire for self determination. ah. and so we can believe that the confederate flag has brought feelings of pride and affection to generations of mississippians whose ancestors fought and died under it

. mm. it's also true that the confederate flag represents a defeated southern nation that enshrined the right of a white person to own a black person, its constitution, and that same flag is favored by white supremacists today tries to make. so when black mississippians tell us at the confederate flag is a hurtful reminder of the brutal and inhumane treatment of their ancestors. we can believe them too. it's all true. there's both a sacrifice and an injustice that people of good faith can acknowledge. the question remained. what would it take to force a reckoning of these truths? nearly 2 years later, in the midst of a pandemic,

we learned the answer. ah, i remember the video of last night confrontation shows a white police officer with his knee pinning down the neck of the south's back. the vase you to run a forgery is reminiscent of dirt gardener's very same words. i can't breathe with. nearly 8000 people joined black lives matter, mississippi to march the streets of downtown jackson, wanting their voices to be heard. not just from the magnolia safe but across the country with their name in think about me in europe for

a minute and 40 thinking mm i think that the main number line we amanda, were mobile. oh, has been a within our to the black lives matter, protest, pressure on the legislature intensified momentum is building did change mississippi thing flag even as the legislative session winds down wal mart is joining in the fight against the se. flag announcing it will remove this, a flag from its mississippi stores. some of the most influential voices to remove

mississippi's flag come from faith leaders across the state. the us marine corps is now banning all depictions of the confederate battle flag at all my installations. united states navy plans to ban confederate flags from all public spaces and workers. coaches from every mississippi public university lobbied law makers to remove the state flag classroom to the governor debra hose, which is changing his tune, calling for the legislature to vote on the flag now. mm hm . it seems like it's coming to ahead with this potential vote to me it's monte funny that an event that happened, you know, 1037 miles away from jackson, mississippi on is impacting mississippi with an overwhelming vote of 85 to 35. does it belong makers voted in favor on efforts to change their st planning the call to serve the lives of black mississippians in

this moment lead to an unexpected turn. there is a major change to one of the options that could be an alternative to mississippi's current state flag. launched in is a designer of what has been known as the student flag is stepping away from the project in a continued effort to be of service. i'll be stepping away from this endeavor, as i understand the hurt and potential harm. my last name can cause, but i'll always continue to fight for mississippi and her people, which i consider both a duty and a joy. mississippi needs and deserves and new flag. help make it sound. lauren. back at the capital confederate heritage supporters held rallies to express their frustration with the legislature. what are you willing to give? what are you willing to buy for legislature?

i get our flag about allowing citizens who have vote that they really ah anger, the law they rob us of the way. i mean, we already voted on it 2001 and they just took that away. they ignored me. anger, betrayal, absolute sickness. how can you put bite in about a fire? i'll tell you, your voice on your boat. got your boat. what was going on tonight? i'm signing a law to turn a page in mississippi by retiring the flag. we have a 90, more, more conversation with

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oh ah, ah, ah, in the history that we witness and i think as there is also there, they can be a better place for you to come in a ways we want to court here today, me legislation to change the state flag called for a commission to come up with a new design. the new flag cannot contain any symbols of the confederacy and it

must include the words in god we trust. the commission solicited ideas for a new flag to receive thousands of online submissions and they chosen magnolia design with 20 white stars, signify mississippi as the 20th state to join the union. the gold star at the top of the circle represents mississippi's 1st peoples, the indigenous native american tribes of the land that would become mississippi. in november of 2020 mississippi voters, approve the new design by a wide margin. and now our neighbors fly. the new mississippi state flag ah ah

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arise and the speeding they're due to fear. i think there's no rush to with the realization implementation of article 5. no one rational wants to go to war. which washer, which has to struggle outcome with exchange and the end of life letter. my name is frank richardson, philadelphia got in the movement in age, 13 or 14 to we are violent towards those people because we believe that we're in a race. we're here 1st and this is our country being part of that movement. i got your sense of power. when i felt powerless, we got a pension when i felt invisible and accepted when i talked to level life after, hey, is an organization that was founded by for skin the on

the white supremacists in the u. s. in canada. and they and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. there's 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. and then the next part is d, radicalization. work belief systems. yeah. you all are removed. it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, you heard my story, did nothing to challenger it. validate with one no, no, not a job. no, no. what door was real to what they should end up unit 73. 1 was a unique organization in the history of the world. what they were trying to do was

to simply do nothing short, then build the most powerful and most deadly biological weapons program. that the world had ever known a production issue or sure, doug did that. they're not gonna get killed when you suddenly we're going to put you on more more. you know, margaret thought this is meant against them all. i got to learn much sale. i got your name. i go on, underscore, i wish to know about jewelry. whoa, whoa, knew you didn't gosh one more pushed in jail. it's i had to put all of their mother and all everybody built. you cut out nice. oh boy. good to go on. what the on this the wow, she my,

and new on it. i'm all, i can send more on all segment. good. so you don't the year you'll not an all put them out. thank you bye. ah.