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a city emergency aid it. it'd be bush, bab, police and some by the way, the way the manual charging a manual. there'd be one along. and there's people thought, yeah, shot to pass like all the amended reject but he's come right away. did you see him at all? yes, he's a young to why the a white dude. mm. a multiple neighbor down. what happened at the mother of manuel and the church in charleston, south carolina. in the summer of 2015,

it was almost to her rhythm to comprehend a white gun been stormed into a bible study. non church members die right before god another. these people weren't church. you were in church. what do we know about? oh, this man is, and what is motivation may have been said, are you rape women? and you taken over our country and you have to go shortly after do on the roof was captured, investigators found a racist manifesto. he posted on line, along with dozens of images, posing that confederate harriet sites in with confederate flags. mm. mm. now the focus of the nation's outrage shifted from the killer himself to the symbol that seemed to contain more than its borders. all the racial hatred and roofs hart or the backlash was swift. terrific shooting has re ignited a highly sensitive debate over the confederate flag. this flag has become

a symbol of murder, of racism from hatred. and it is clearly a symbol of this killer. the conversation we're having about the confederate flag has been about moral empathy, seeing the flag for others eyes. you know, it's a lonely for society, going to really do a good check of our values. corporate giants like e bay target and wal mart stopped selling items bearing the confederate flag, telling me right now literally just now in the last couple of minutes. unless the last few minutes amazon, just pull the flag as well. or even nascar, an icon of traditional southern culture turned against the flag with an appeal to patriotism. they told us got a special offer for race fans as we can trade in your confederate flag for an american line. anti flag momentum reached a climax when president obama delivered the eulogy for mother emanuel pastor clemente pinkney over the flag from the states. capital would not be an act of political correctness. it would not be an insult to the balin confederate sold.

mm. assembly me and acknowledged that the cause for which they fought in the cause of slavery was then 2 weeks later the flag came down in south carolina. oh, this is a flag again, a lot of attention is all because of this, the revel. banner rehab, which are good me, you know, i'm not going to you care about me if you care about this for is the story of civil 60. do you think the confederate flag of the, as you can see, it's about even i wish somebody could just tell me why this sets their hair, for our government is sanctioning that shows and symbol of a terrorist organization on our state far. i love,

i love being southern bail. i think we had the most beautiful flag we need to fight . i know my problem is the safe place to with everyone in not a time in peace. and what they're gonna do is they're trying to tell us as mississippians that we should change and we're not gonna change. you know, i don't live here a under pressure with our with i was born and raised in the north or my irish. great, great grandfather,

michael o'connor was an officer of the union army. but i married a mississippian and of course we live here. now. the main street in the neighboring town is not called main street. it's jeff davis avenue, named after jefferson davis, a mississippi plantation owner, and us senator, who advocated for the expansion of slavery into the new territory. and he was elected president of the confederacy. there's another jeff davis ab, a short drive away in jefferson davis. his home and presidential library is just up the highway like many mississippi counties, our court house at the monument to confederate soldiers. and some of our neighbors flew the state flag in their yards. something i've never seen any place else. so yes, in mississippi. remnants of the confederacy are everywhere. but even at the civil

war relics, joe and brandon, mississippi change seem inevitable. tell me what sort of interactions are you having with folks who are interested in buying mississippi? people are buying mississippi state play more than usual. evidently, there must be a shortage on the horizon somewhere in it a shame. okay, my name is tim cupid. i'm a member of the sons of confederate veterans. when i started doing my family research, i found that my family hold on both sides union and confederate, but if some people lane last sunday, the lane, right, well i lanes out. we want people to remember our past what our ancestors went through and this friday that we made. ah,

i appreciate you being here. and now i hope that when you're doing your documentary, that you are present both sides on positive manner and, and let people make amanda for themselves. i understood that confederate heritage, supporters like tim might be suspicious of my intentions. i am a yankee, after all. i assured him and everyone else i spoke to in the film that i wasn't going to choose aside. miss debate, and i wasn't here to judge anyone. i simply wanted to understand why mississippians were so divided overstate flag, whose purpose should be to unite us. ah,

[000:00:00;00] a sounds of confederate veterans purposes, not to defend confederate government or purposes to defend the good name of the confederate. seldom with the tech, which i take very seriously because these monuments that you see everywhere are not can they're not monuments to the federal government. they're monuments to the, to the soldiers, to the veteran. most of it came back terribly wanted ah, ah,

you supplied that those men were masters of some sort and that's not true. and so i can't just sit there while that story gets told that i know it's not true. of course for made it fascinated with mississippi history and particularly because the census in $1840.00. i think this 1st one. 0 everybody here was 20 years old. everybody don't know people anywhere and they were coming to absolutely raleigh and anyone there 20 years that you're fighting for your existence as a nation. ah, you know that's a, that's how we got. here was a state board of talent to live rebel

over the sanction. do not be a bad again, are not only which reward anus any, pardon for anything, not done? look, this state flag issue never would have been brought back up. if it wasn't for what happened. on june 17th in charleston, south carolina. they want you to believe that that flag grew handlers came down that paul walked in that church and feel those people it was a human being that did that. not a flag. open your mouth. open your mouth. oh, we keep them your mouth open and does something with the concussion. every flag has

its history. it has its pride and dark parts. we won't talk about dark parts, you know, we can mention how fibrous was brought in under the us flag. there's videos of this one organization marching down. i believe it's pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. c. and they're only flying to us. why? again, why not be offended because of that flag? you know, if we're going to be offended by everything, every negative part of our history, we have to get rid of everything. with it you say you're fighting for your heritage where your heritage was based on money and power in the only way you could get money and power here is if you kill a decent franchise,

people in plain and simple always new. would the confederate emblem mid to us is an african americans, but what can you tell me what it always meant to catering lynchings, beating poverty. why supremacy is just the disgusting ambler? i feel that way because i leave it with i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such order is

a conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about personal intelligence at that point, obviously is to create trust rather than fear a very job with artificial intelligence. real, somebody with a robot must protect this phone existence with i've actually found safety and embraces naziism is a job. all of a sudden you're placed in a position where i can defend myself. now, i don't have to be afraid anymore. on one hand, i'm terrified that they're going to find that i'm jewish, but on the other, i think it's so far away. i distinctly remember my mom sitting me down one night and her st. john, they're going to her one guy, punch me behind my ear or somebody shell now,

and the rest of the punch is to start to fly. in somebody shouted out died, you boy died. and at that point i knew i remember had an indian doctor. they came in and looked and said, there is no medical reason why you should be allowed to find something to believe. john story is a story of ho story, victory or whatever i can do to help him out. ah, a lady, she is really a serious superstition and you have to look young. something's always just the red

but it's not just the way. ready it represents inequality represents hatred. and a flag was always present like it was in south carolina. when those mad people were innocently shot. we got a flag represents the fluid. we have that with the love you have a

go to come now. a funds of confederate batteries and members of the k k. k say that they are christians. i just it is my hope in my desire there god were touched them to portray christine how do you change the heart of man? well, the law may not change my house of men, you can and it does change by habits of men. when you are begun by habit to men who it is only added, who would be j for this phone off will be june. my mother,

she all for welfare rights for women. they holster down with hoses. she still had the bite marks owner laid from the doll. and she also went to jail and i was like to know this, my mamma. why? why not? i mean, she's the sweetest person. oh no one was somebody to do that to her. it was appalling . when the news came on about the shooting. mamma say that they don't make no sense. if i stood up and went to jail and get beat for human rights and civil rights and welfare rights. yeah, alberto, do something, and wish you fay? better do something. we do something i'm the director of of life. i'll miss tippins coalition. i've just been going around trying to raise awareness about the importance of removing the

confederate emblem from our state flag. it's gonna be hard but is 9 impasse in you just have to keep pushing and keep striving. i just, my god for. oh, ah, grace and mercy because you need a whole lot more than you would have been march from g r, lead street to the state capital calling for change in the state flag. we just need a flag that were unified. everyone in, not long after i met sharon, she stepped away from her leadership role with the flag for all mississippians initiative. due to health reasons. it will be some time before i could talk to sharon on camera again. she found an ally and li campbell, an anti flag activist on the mississippi gulf coast. for me as

a white woman. oh, it's incumbent upon me as a, as a white mississippian and a person of privilege to use my privilege to do what i can to dismantle a system of white supremacy and symbols of white supremacy that my ancestors created. mm. wow. i grew up in the sound, so i have a sense of the racism that still exists here and it would be naive me or anyone else to deny that. and then li, sitting in charleston happen. and i distinctly remember seeing the photo dylan roof posing with the confederate fire and reading his blog post. and then watch governor nikki haley, have the courage to take that confederate emblem down from south carolina state

house ground. it really made me angry that our governor and our legislators could not display the same courage. oh, so i knew i had to get involved. were fighting for the soul and sent me right now. looking at me or do you think it makes them feel when they ever were laid her? that flag is flying. what are we on bad i miss day is better than that.

with this wasn't the 1st time mississippians have wrestled over their flag in 1993 the n double a c p to the state, to change the flag for familiar reasons. back with that lawsuit leather, the discovery that due to a legislative air in 19 o 6, mississippi did not have an official state flag in 2001 governor. ronnie must grove decided to settle the issue with statewide referendum, asking voters to choose between 2 flags. the current flag at the time which had been adopted in 1894 and a new design. and now the mississippi flag is wavering. and this time voters will decide if the confederate symbol will follow the flag of 18. 941 by a nearly 2 to one margin,

settling the issue for the time being a flag of 18. 94 was adopted. just 4 years after mississippi had convened a constitutional convention to write a new state constitution. the civil war had ended 30 years earlier, and although black mississippians made up nearly 60 percent of the states population, only one of the convention delegates was black and reconstruction was over. and white, mississippi had regained political control from the majority black population to violence and intimidation, and newly formed ku klux klan. the president of the convention made it clear that their goal was to circumvent the 15th amendment, which prohibited the government from to 9 a citizen. the right to vote based on race. let's tell the truth of at 1st the bottom of the university said we came here to exclude them. other convention delegates confirmed this notion

in mississippi's constitution of 18. 90 included a poll tax and a literacy test that effectively prevented generations of black citizens from voting until the passage of the voting rights act. some 75 years later, it was in this political climate that the flag of 1894 was born. ah! back all the flag trade, the federal but the flags all over the street. you know, because i got the, the horizontal lamps hanging out. so i was like, wow, that's why i am a true blooded, southern mississippi, southern man and, and an accepted and i,

i relish in it because that's who i am. that's who, where my family is, came from. my family as live in the state of mississippi before it even became a state of the union. i am a direct descendant of james jefferson. johnson is my great, great great grandfather. he fought in the 41st mississippi infantry. this is my son's a confirmed veteran certificate. what really got me just fired about route. normally some kind of a confederate organization is because of what's going on in the country and maneesha. it's, but people discrimination against the jews levinsky ammunition against us or want to mom is currently engaged in southern they accuse us of all be in races, you know. and it's a fine of a 1000000000 is what the play may. so a lot of people and that's why i like k and other groups used to play the part that me off the worst is i wish my ancestors would have put

a stop to it before you know, a got to the point that is today. we're tommy, my caesar play the automatic, the things k, k p person. mm hm. what is referred to as a confederate flag? graphically, it is done. however, you can separate it from all that it is stood for in a negative sense. i'd love for us to have a symbol about which people had no hesitancy whatsoever. we're at a moment where we can do this right and well and respectfully drawn bought. i don't like name coins. i don't like rallies where people are yelling back and forth all along the way from the way i present things. the way i design a flag. i want everybody to have a stitch, a fred and that new design. and i hope to be that middle ground, that landing point for folks who, you know, as time has passed and they come along,

i think. and all right, now we need something new. it began with a whole lot of sketching, a lot of note taking a lot of research, a flag really as a living symbol and document and piece of art that they're 19 stars along the outer edge. we were the 20th state to join the union. the color, red symbolizes passion and blood. i chose the color white as a field because it represents elimination spirituality promise. and i thought that was an appropriate way to bring together all of these elements and all these aspects of our history and our story. of course, my grandfather was a us senate and he was one of the co authors and signers of the southern manifesto, which was a reaction against brown vs board of education. integrating schools. and he was involved in we are the oppression of african americans in our state by way of policy. but i still love my grandfather. his personal motto was look ahead and he

did, he eventually changed himself to on that issue. lauren's flag design, known as this dentist flag quickly became popular and caught the attention of state representative kathy sikes, who was the 1st legislator to advocate for the spanish flag as a viable alternative to the flag of 18. 94. ah, ah, a garage and a speedy, a known one rationally, with the realization implementation of article 5, no one rational wants to go into more which washer,

which has its logical outcome in exchange. in the end of life letter i will never be a victory for russia. we. we shall see what you're still waiting much anyway, newton, a done, but you look at a meal. korean war is a proxy war. this is a war between russia and the united states. mazama are made, it comes to not should kick in in carbon dioxide. murphy forces your and you're not in your gauge in conflict with russian for use american forest or defend nato. i think nato escalates even more than discussion laundry. opperation become a war when you put those of wasn't national, another 1000 is my. i see it that i see your to us thinking costliest. you got what i mean with so you sleep, you shenika you stuff to with almost them let's you miss

only the still finish the ring. a sewage nurse eager for girl who's i met. representative sikes at a rally in washington. d. c. o t introduced his dentist, why i do a gallery of mississippians who had travelled there to demand a new state flag. okay. and i, laura, as i love this because, and the thing is, you know, we had a discussion with us that i saw this flag and fell in love with it. and i really liked that when i found out that the designer was lawrence dennis. lauren is the. busy granddaughter of senator johnston, he represented during the time of jim crow where they thought they're separate, but equal was ok is just so important to me to accept that over