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the most countries continue restricting food and fertilizer experts in the efforts to penalize their adversaries is hunger. indeed, the best source for geopolitics when to discuss that i'm now joined by no. ron and shake professor of political science at tyrene university professor. it's great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you for you and for your invitation. now let me start with your a quite unusual academic experience, which includes heading centers for both russian and american studies. given your understanding of both cultures. why do you think the russians and the american site so stock and i laugh, hey, dynamic. do you think we are destined to be each other's dark doubles? oh, i think both of them are a great po, worse than that this normal because united states unfortunately won't to be the only great power in the whole board. but now russia is

a pat king. as since, sir, that's a very important to speech of kristen put into so them a 7. and then we on that for a conference and a multi lecture and multi pooler system. it is norma. it is the norm of the, the globe is to have different powers, different culture difference validations. so, so i think what is united states doing is that is this than the norm of the whole global. so it is unlocked. i think that it is very interesting for the whole globe, what the united states doing, and i think that is also a south globe, a voice supporting crusher in moving toward the multi electoral and multi polar for system. because it is, sir, norm won't answer, is that what should be done,

and that is fair and justice for all of us. you recently that and the policies of the west, for example, western sanctions. ah, they're also hurting not only russia, but the entire world, and more specifically, even the western populations themselves. and i wonder how do you take it? do you think that saw the arrogance or of, of western decision makers discounting this type of hiring? not only are her to the restroom to well, but with our own population or do you think that's deliberate? i think i you visited russia many times by the way from fed up to the date i had 4 of to 5 visits. i think her thank gods russia has laughing and i see as it does sit so it's okay in russia, but the rest of the whole wards of the one was suffering from the sanctions. and as you mentioned, you will be in themselves the software, the 1st suffering from my point of view of the one was suffering more and more the

european if we wanted to say, or a lowe's, oh, suffering from that war, or what come ukraine and european then united states, i unfortunately, yes, africa and some other countries also suffering and europeans urban don't to care a lot about what is going in the whole ward and about what is going in their countries. they want to only to defeat russia. those is a sanctions against russia, thus the one was suffering is the rest of the war underpins because russia is a very important country for a wait for other greens, therefore for god. and nobody can live without greens and gas. russia from its aside a proposed to export seeds to ox porter, or greens, are adjusted without a mean. it said like,

of free for other countries and or of particularly oster contentious apart you will be. and once again plucked that d, this is actually a very interesting point because western powers like to portray themselves as the sort of the primary defenders of human rights and the manufacturers of humanity. but as you pointed out, there are many countries that are pretty desperate at this point of time. and then one more people are within western societies who say the same things that you're saying right now, but it doesn't seem to change western policies. how long do you think that they'll gone or what kind of resolved your thing it may produce within europe itself? or if we are talking about human rights at the right of food, is that basic right? how can anybody without food doing anything? he would go to elections, he would go to education, he would go to war. no. so if you will not provide towards it,

all aspects of life or other human rights will not be exist. i think the situation in europe is very critical. deb daily, we have demonstrations. we have a marshes in not only in the what we call the small european countries. oh, those are suffering before. no, even in france in germany, germany the the biggest or economy european economy. now a suffering according to our u. m. f. and the european would lows one trillion, appoint for it from own what is going on. this is amazing. i mean, this is a great a louis for europeans are also according to i am a fir dimensions. they're all their european countries and economists would go to a stagnation and maybe reach 0 gross. so i know why

the politicians in your old a don't want to see that and to solve the problem. it is easy. it is easy to stop the one who started actually the war, the europeans, i night to states a. so it's easy to stop everything. i mean, he, if you consider it from our strategic point of view, but if you consider it from an arrogant, again, this is the point of view that it's very, very difficult. now, you mentioned that poverty, a lack of economic opportunities, arrogance of power, can unleash very powerful and sometimes very destructive social forces. and those forces can flow societies back for years, maybe even decades. i think we saw some of that during the arab spring uprisings in egypt, but also in many of the neighboring countries. for example, libya. do you think something similar is possible in europe? yes, it's possible because it may be, it would be worse because people in europe the don't to use the

term very difficult in their lives. they are welfare states, welfare people who usually live in a very good to standard of living, having everything and every time. so to make them live in lake over our or shorts of food order energy or a being, we are here and got a very am urge hoggard things. i mean, like of some people said that either to get food or to be for energy or what i can do with my little income. this is in your of this is in francis in germany. can your motion as so i think that's a situation may be getting worse and worse. upcoming payments on the fuel coming monserrat december and january, i think would be very difficult for them. you know, back in 2011, i was in libya covering the prices, and it was horrifying to see how a relatively well off country can go downhill in just a couple of months. i mean,

i saw all those western supported rabble ransacking as they don't companies or even hanging policeman on, on land posts, you know, lynching people out in the broad daylight. and i think at that time, among western reporters, there was sort of an idea that, you know, there are arrow people who do that, but the europeans are more individualistic, they would never do anything like this to themselves. and yet me, remember old, the world wars about started in europe and the, the horrifying experience that the people deep to one another. it, sir, it's very frightening to think about something like that. but i wonder if you think that this 3rd won't work, would begin in europe again and i, i mean, we all have some respite turn in our fires, but don't you think of something like this would be so so dangerous to oh oh oh no sleep m a tin maybe one year or a before,

when somebody talking about the 3rd world war, we said a what to what does it mean? never happened to cetera. but to actually, after all of what we seen, i think it is not impossible. who knows? because actually you, the western policies is very harmful, very destructive as you mention. and nobody, you know what the order you will do is not on the, in your own, by the way, but look to asia, for example. i recently did a defense, a search american defense this thread ship, that declared both have been to good and 27 of october just sir a 3 weeks ago. mentioned clearly that the china is the 1st the threat to the united states and it also focus moreland, more about alliances,

military alliances in into the pacific region. that means that the largest, it's a hub ink menus haters of conflict and many as haters of clashes. one of them in europe with russia, another one would be in an eastern asia with the china, so whole whole knows from what point it may start to bottom. no body now said it is impossible. it may happened unfortunately. yes, we all, i hope that it never happened. but with that, or you like to stay, sir, district of policy. and i think it's the one will be responsible for it. they nighty states, you mentioned that it was, or in, or the, the current events were unimaginable only a decade ago. and i think it was hard to believe in 5 years ago that the entire sectors of the global economy being their food senior only fertilizer sector,

could be deliberately compromised. for the sake of geopolitics. you know, we didn't believe that that was possible. and yet, this is the reality believe in. do you think that's a new norm? and if so, how do you think it will on a fact the global economy going forward? you think it will change any patterns within how are countries do business, how they protect themselves from that kind of, in a bachelor, i think the united states and europe miscalculate is the russian a power. and how far russia is very vital, very important for the horde war economy. and that is that they didn't take it into account and that, that the problem that we all live in now or would be a tragedy later on. i mean, shortage of food, shortness of energy that would affect your p s most dramatically, but other countries in africa and asia, even enlighten america. and that's why growth house now is as having

a one voice and calling for these that crisis. because the crisis not only are again this to russia, but it is again, this is the horn ward. and i think that will do change many things, not only about the pattern of economy, but i think that it would change of the structure of international system itself. i think the growth 1000 now thrusting russia more and more as a part, not a and as a great power responsible. now the image of the united states and europe does the art responsible, a power. so you, you cannot count on them and do you, you cannot trust of them to leads the whole grow or you can actually count on them and deliberately harming as the rest of the world. if bad since that interest professor, we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back in just

a few moments statement. ah ah, ah ah, welcome back to worlds of foreign smith neuron. check professor of political science at pyre university. professor before the break, we were discussing the current, your political situation, and you mentioned that the,

the world is watching what's going on. and it's not necessarily taking the american of the russian side, but it's looking after its own interest and it just happens to be the, the russian line. our hope is more in line with the interest of the rest of humanity. and i think that's an interesting point because as russia's conscience with the west deteriorated over the last decade, russia invested a lot of diplomatic effort into building it's ties with other countries. for example, with turkey with which we have very tenuous relationship over syria. and there were some very perilous accidents with the church shooting down the russian plane, but the russian deliberately made sure that he wants to have those functioning ties and it wants to meet turkey halfway the same with other countries. let's say the saudi arabia war. well, it has always been a russia, so very strong partner. but in any case, there was a deliberate effort in investing into diplomacy and the new kind of diplomacy that allows countries me the child their half weight. do you think it's still

a possibility between, let's say russia and the west or let's say the rest and the west. do you think some, some sort of a balanced, mutually amicable and mutually respectful way of dealing with each other's possible . at this point, i think it would politics, there is nothing impossible in politics or if there is interest so much inc. interests would push forward in your relationship. i think one day, though, your opinions themselves will back to russia because the need to russia and because the russia is go, by the way, you may know that to russia to present to 40 per cent of european continent as so russia in, by all the way you know, i think we all saw pretty proud of her asian. oh, yes, sure, sure. i mean that you will be an it should realize that you cannot offer you that i shot you cannot to ignore russia or escape it. russia is there like a china,

like other countries, like the globe thous as a whole if they are in the whole ward. so i think it is sooner and later they will realize that to but i'm, from my point of view european will not back as great powers again. well, that's actually are leading me to my next question because they are, they may have been some contexts are tentative context between i lied him and put him and joseph biden. i confidence on the issue of strategic securing town. it's been speculated that if those talks are substantive enough that it may lead to official discussion that that discussion could be held north in switzerland as we are all used as in our neutral ground during the cold war. but rather in egypt, what do you may called 5? they said emergence of inch of the as, as, as a new negotiating space between the global north i. that means that the

globe south is, is rising. and did that, you will be in a now a lost of they are, it could have the ability and there are, do you know parlance because it before. hello. thank you, for example, was one of the mean scenes for such a dia, looks at a meeting between russia and soviet union even before is in the united states. but now as finland lost its set parlance air and your trinity. so now we are moving to a gloves house. whole wanted to be the main appellant. sure. in the relation between we send the east in general and making is to pity in that war to order. and so i think that's why i think that the globe 1000 generally and egypt in particular may play a very important role in such a regard. do you think the 2 political neutrality of the 21st century would be in

any way different from the, from what, what was perceived as neutrality in the 20th century? will it take something different? i think because in the trailer 10 in the 20th century are related to cold war. yes, yes. some people said cold war never came to an end and we are now in the cold, another cold war of but i think it is not a cold war. it is and your work order be created and we are in transition period. and this threat and transition furniture having some a in a stability is some a, a, some ways of conflicting to a more forward to a new era, a new era, more palance. it's a more fair for old. and of course, for the south. you know that some i and tripling just how long considered egypt as a,

essentially the birthplace of european and christian civilization. i'm in the midst of our cyrus clearly has sound. ah, some parallels both, both with the bible and the way with the koran. and i thing in the world right now we have more and more. i'm sort of for a competition of narrative. what, what makes human humans are? you know, what is this substance of human life? what is the purpose of politics? what is the ultimate goal of governance? i wonder if you think that the egypt can consider it contributes something to all the world or perhaps to europe at this point of time as it did before. and i think it said egypt and all i was a globe 1000. now thinking of a human being in climate, som, it in charm a shave. it was obvious that egypt calling for peace for if you want for a more or prosperity,

more equality for the whole globe and particularly the south and within this house, africa a come of course. so i think the climate summit was a, giving a very important message to old to and conflicts among them. the conflict in ukraine . it to look more and more about development about the common challenges, the home glove. now it facing critical challenges among them. a climate change of food, a crisis, as you mentioned in asia crisis, a syringe. so we are facing very critical challenges. it is lots of time to fight each other or trying to churn nick a giant. it is not that, as we should think of the globe, not to think in our video, a tiny interests of one country or one government, or even one president. it is the time to think about the whole globe saw you hope

that the message sent by climate change summit and and char machine would be listened by a washington by european countries. well, although the art pretend that they are doing hard and that, but i see little effort to to comb or our war is and challenges. you know, speaking about this sa sense of shared humanity. last here i made a little pilgrimage around it shift to visit old coptic monasteries and i, what i found there is a very am vibrant allies, faith, when you can sit with people from all walks of life from all different religions. and they don't care, you know, what kind of persuasion you have, whether you are, you know, a christian, an atheist, whether you're russian or american, whether you're in a drug addict or, you know, a businessman, you can connect on the human level. and i rarely have that experience with the so

called progressive because when you enter western, you know, groups, they usually 1st establish who you are, what you think. and then they decide whether or not to connect with you as a and being. and i want to ask you, why do you think this new school of thought this new a georgie says so i so dogmatic, in a sense, wild, these ancient and i would say primitive religions seem to be still very encompassing of you know, of all sorts of human experiences whose as you, you mentioned that is human. so because it was human, so it was easy to connect it to all the humans. but so that's her dogma. i geology at connected more to interest to interests of elite or 2 interests of persons. so whenever you connect to anything and make it personal as so it coming close. but whenever you a feel a connecting to a whole society to with that,

that human being and gender, you would be more often. and it's easier to actually it's, it's very good examples for that. we are in egypt never ask about tradition. or we know each other for longer time and never ask about sir irrigation, or if you pray or not, if you're fossil or not, no. and that is that very also a nice being that we all have the same or closed tradition in face or door or door . this is law me, christine's. it doesn't matter but the same what we are doing and our faces in our celebrations, nearly the same are also all differences in the revision. so it's very nice. i mean, this is a good example in dosher also i noted that this kind of a humanity in general or revisions or live together for today the conference. it was very great to have christians, muslims, a buddhist and all of them together. this is very great. it is great,

but it also requires, i think, m morland's sort of ethical discipline to put yourself on the same level as other people, rather than call yourself a shining sea level that has to, you know, bring wisdom to, to the rest of humanity. and i think that's in a part of the difficulty dived. aware, having with it with americans. do you think they are consciously putting themselves in the place of god? the one and only god that has to guide humanity? yes, i think so. united states and europe also, maybe it is also connected to colonization because it, during the colonization era, the blade or all of god and that all of master, they are the master who decided everything, who knows everything and oh, let everything in, in our countries. and having old with everything from us, and a think a been behalf on us of what does piston to what is good for us. and so i think this

is highly connected to that colonization way of thinking. and unfortunately, after all those here of liberation, they didn't a get the message or they still playing the same role and convince it of the same idea that they are the out. the only one who knows everything of the hoard ward and they are the masters. and all of us should obey what the decide i think this is very wrong way. and actually the isolate themselves from the rest of the water. they didn't isolate a rush or any other country, the isolated themselves from that war to trend or yeoman. but trent, with hopefully a reality real, are bringing some changes because a, there is an american expression to eat, the humble pie and hunger. and they seem that you have been discussing for all of this interior, if them to really strong in terms of teaching what's important and what is northern . as you mentioned,

there are many western countries who are now struggling with the challenge of fulfilling the people's basic needs. it's no longer about i, george, it's about, you know, the most accurate necessities do you think that's powerful enough to change our policies to, or to, you know, sort of bring it down to the every day. how would you rather than some lofty ideas? i think the already changed if you notice, for example, italy, government changes a pretend government to change it many times in very short time. so i think it's so it would have a great impact, great and deep impacts on postal sciences and political system. the rising or far rights and in europe, i think it's a reaction to what's is going on. and they would be more and more in the future. or what we are seeing in a night is theater. that division between

a not democrats and the republicans, but a between mega if we call it like a movement and others who are come from, maybe we can call a conservative or want to, to, to beam again, this mega, whatever we call it. but that mega trends that are presented by x prison to the trombone deb his supporters. i think it said dramatic a change in the united states. sooner or later. all those trans movements will come to something on expected porcelain. your a bunch of i to small chickens always come from to roast. i guess professor, it's been great pleasure talking to you. thank you very much for time. thank you for your thanks so much. thank you. for watching hook to syria, again on well, the part,

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