stream pipelines will be mom, the mutually beneficial energy relationship, europe and russia had for decades come to an end. the geopolitical implications are enormous in europe is the biggest loser with the u. commission chief deletes a post in which he claimed 100000 ukranian soldiers had been killed in the war. the figure of 10 times more than the one announced by ukrainian officials and august the pentagon. blas china claiming its been adversely highlighting the chaotic us withdrawal from afghanistan to purposely undermine washington's influence in the endo pacific avenue. i'm coming here to demonstrate our disappointment, so that you come us then doug. doug williams with hundreds of people gather in front of

a jail in pretoria to protest the release of the convicted murderer of a south african anti apartheid leader with just after 7 pm here in the russian capital. and you're watching r t international. i am your host donald quarter. welcome to the program. our top story, 100000 ukrainian troops. that's the estimated death toll estimated by the european commission chief for the war and ukraine. she made the claim in a video to were posted to her twitter page which was later deleted. rush us invasion of ukraine has brought death, devastation and unspeakable suffering. we all remember the horace of boucher. it is estimated that more than 20000 civilians and more than 100000 ukrainian military officers have been killed so far. i want to get more on the story. we're

across live to our t contributor, rachel marston. hi there, rachel. can you take us through the background of the story? so there are a whole lot of questions here. first, where did european commission president ursula vander line get the figure from of a 100000 ukranian troops killed in the conflict in ukraine. secondly, why were those figures so quickly deleted? not even corrected or updated, but just simply memory hold. did she catch herself out spreading fake news or something? now the commission's deputy chiefs spokeswoman dennis been on said in a later treat that the $100000.00 killed figure should have included both killed and injured ukrainian troops. she called the figure an external estimate. now that would have perfectly aligned with a $100000.00 killed or injured ukraine. soldiers that

u. s. joint chiefs chairman mark, milly cited earlier this month. okay, so then where is the clarification with the updated accurate figures? what exactly is the source of this quote, external estimate that the you consider to be legitimate enough to have underlined site in a speech, to someone at brussels, just write these speeches on their bathroom breaks or something, and then just pass it to vander lines, teleprompter person on the way back to their desk, why did russell simply delete the figure from everywhere like the information never even existed. a spokesman for ukrainian president vladimir zalinski calls the 100000 figure extremely far from reality. ukraine's military chief had previously said the figure of 9000 ukrainian true bloss is back in august. so why didn't you commission site that as it source, it was picked up by the western press and is publicly available just like the american estimate of the 100000. now, given the massive discrepancy between washington's estimate of ukrainian troop

losses and what keeps military leadership had previously conveyed them to be brussels is really in a position here to act as a sort of tie breaker. are they just not interested in giving people an accurate depiction of the human lawson suffering that the west continues to enable with weapons and funding instead of pushing for peace negotiations? the only thing that this inexplicable backtracking does is so a lack of trust in the actions, information and motivations of european officials are at archie contributor rachel marston. thanks for bringing us those details. now one part of underlay in statement which wasn't deleted, was where she said russia must pay financially for the devastation that has caused the damage is so far estimated by the european union at $600000000000.00 euros. the commission chief has also hinted at where the money might come from and we have the means to make russia pay. we have blocked 300000000000 euros of the russian

central bank reserves. in the short term, we could create with our partners a structure to manage these funds and invest them. we will then use the proceeds for ukraine, is reminded me of the western responses that either you and yet the other company of 7 countries in crisis. they tend to sometimes that the nationalize employee is on hold for just like foreign investors offering basement. and then you see all attempts from the western nations that's been now in the case is really about, you know, who is in a position to make a judgment, to make that distinction. what is of right and what is wrong, and then, what is the result? what is the punishment evidence angie against any party? so that's a, that's a question i would say beyond that, the nobility and the sovereignty of the european,

all the u. s. a and such an order for that u. m. and help us in largely it's more difficult to make that decision until that complex magic age that we do when he crosses. the president of germany has said that a peace deal between russia and ukraine would be an act of injustice. this coming as he claims freezing the conflict, would solidify the games made by russian troops. and he calls for a cease fire now and not serious, because at the moment a truce would mean in fact, recognition of the injustice that already occurred. please find now would mean that russia will keep the occupied territories. this means that borders have been violated. international law is being violated and land is being seized. and all this will be allowed. as remarks came amid ukrainian demands to ramp up nato weapons production to supply kia in the future. the u. s. alone has sent nearly

$20000000000.00 of military aid to ukraine, and the european commission has announced it will send $18000000000.00 euros more assistance this coming year. what to get more on this story now we're going to cross lie to former assistant secretary to the us treasury for economic policy and former editor at the wall street journal. dr. paul craig roberts, thanks for joining us on the program doctor. you're welcome. i would imagine that president stein hymer stein meyer, rather chose his words carefully. when he said that a truce in ukraine will only recognize injustice. that seems to be a broad stroke. don't you think? what are your thoughts on it? well you know, washington and you are responsible for the war and. ready so if there's blame it rest on their shoulders, the russian government did everything possible to have the west pay attention to its security concerns. it was given the cold shoulder,

a massive ukrainian army was poised to invade the 2 independent republics and to take them back by force. so it seems to me that the buy in some charlotte, on the west do you see this as a sign that europe does not want a cease fire to ever happen? what are your thoughts on that? well, this new thing is an independent european government. they are all puppet states. they run from washington. this is german chancellor or whatever he is, he, he's a par for washington and he doesn't represent the german people any more than they, you commissioner represented japan people the, all of these people have been par washington's empire. since the end of world war 2

. well, in the past, the recalls for talks between russia and ukraine, but now there seems to be few that that seems to be few and far between actually, how do you think this conflict is going to get resolved? going forward. well, it depends on the russian government depends on present food. and i think that the way russia in vain was a strategic state because by having a slow drawn out operation, he gave the west endless opportunities to convince herself to get involved while i'm the war. and that's precisely what's happened. the west is early involved. it's widen the war and doesn't want to let go of it, because it's a source of permanent propaganda against russia.

and if you, if your government has the goal, that is, if the american government has the goal of the world gemini, the more discomfort, and pressure and stress it can create and moscow the better. so, don't expect the west to see you, friend is anything but a way of demonizing, russia and pressuring russia or one of the articles you published recently in that article. you said something to the effect that the western media encourages the false beliefs that russia can be defeated and that ukraine can be in crimea by christmas. how does the western media contribute to that narrative? and what about the talking points connected to the conflict? well, the web doesn't have a media. it has a propaganda ministry. oh,

surely of the world was aware that in the last year of the clinton administration, the united states government permitted the disperse, an independent american media to be concentrated in 6 hands. so 90 percent of what had been an american independent media came on with control of 6 mega corporation, says no independence there. and then we had the, the book by the, for by the german editor, the large newspaper and germany, i called a purchased journalism in which he said that every significant and journalist in europe was on the see i payroll. well, if this charge he made is true, then there's low independent media in europe either. so when you, when you have the entire media of the western world,

speaking with one propagandist voice, you have nothing but war propaganda. well, during the mid term, there were a number of candidates that vowed to review packages of aids to ukraine and even cut the amount to provided help. actually, what do you think are the chances that some of these promises are going to be kept up? i don't think any of it will because, because congress is not in charge of american foreign policy and the foreign policy is used to achieve american hegemony. and of course, russia and china are in the way and so they are targets. so everything will be done to, wow, put russia in china in uncomfortable positions. and so there's no chance that the west will, will let go of those. except one,

it may well be that the effect of the sanctions on your will prove to be so around us that it breaks up nato. when you see reports that german industry is having to flee germany because there's no energy and they're coming to america. and you see this type of saying you sometimes wonder how much punishment the germans will except for being a part of american empower. so there is that sort of hope. on the other hand, these european leaders are probably very well paid and they look after their own interest long before they look after the country's interest.

now i say all of these things, because what i see in the west, in wall, in the conflict between ukraine in russia is the potential for nuclear war. when, when the western world convinces itself that only rushes at fault, that russia can be defeated, that the russian government is, it is not resolute, that the military is not capable. the russian military is not capable that ukraine will be in crime near by. by christmas, when you convince yourself of these kinds of preposterous lies, you become more aggressive. and if the west gums to aggressive a toward the russian, you're likely to see

a response the no one was counting on. and so my fear of this conflict is that it, it, it leads into a nuclear confrontation into a nuclear war. and, and the o easy going kremlin encourages more provocations from the west. i think those provocations are very dangerous, and that's why i speak out. i'm, you know, it's not that i'm picking aside in the war, but i don't see this war is good. and i see it is a huge danger leading to of terrible catastrophe. what if there is to be a truth less conflict? when do you think it would come about? what kind of time frame are we looking at? it depends on kayden. look at the russians get in this war and

a day. they can take out the entirety of ukrainian infrastructure like and destroy the government and kid. they don't do this. so it's the toleration of the war by the kremlin that keeps an ongoing. i understand there are good reasons for the prim lane, you know, ukrainians and russians are, are in america, you trade in was part of russia for centuries. a russia doesn't want to destroy the country, the entire infrastructure keeps looking for some sort of intelligence with the people that it's dealing with. but they not materialize. there's no sign of intelligence in the ukraine. and so the war can in, whenever proof was it to, he asked the military power to in the war immediately the could never have been a war. he could have simply taken out. the ukrainian infrastructure never sent any

troops, but it's the, it's the nature of the kremlin so far to try to habeas least destruction is possible in order to resolve russia, security concerns. so you know, this prudence decision is the premise decision. if they continue these measures of a long drawn out conflict, that war can exist a long time. if they decide to ended, it can in tomorrow. and i don't mean by our russian surrender or, or negotiations i just by the force of arms. but they don't use that, as i said them, they're good reasons. so it's hard to know on i would say that if the russians get fed up with all the lies and distortions and

refusals on, then they may get more aggressive. i do remember a while back to pros, opinions, and we haven't done anything yet. and i agree with that and they really haven't done anything, nothing comparable to what the russian military would would be able to do. so as long as the kremlin keeps restraint, alive, the war can continue, it will remove the constraint and remove ukraine's ability to conduct or which they have not done. they have not removed ukraine's ability to conduct a war which food can do whatever he wants. then this will continue and i think it will continue until the gremlins gives up any hope of any

reasonable solution. tried former assistant secretary to the us treasury and wall street journal editor, doctor roberts. thank you for joining us for the program. thank years ah, the pentagon is taking a swipe at china climbing it made a big deal out of the chaotic us withdrawal from afghanistan as an attempt to erode washington's influence in the indo pacific region. i was the claim and the u. s. is defense, or the u. s. defense departments latest report on security developments. in 2021, the peoples republic of china employed multiple diplomatic tools in an attempt to erode u. s. and partner influence, such as highlight in the u. s. withdrawal from afghanistan and criticizing us backed security partnerships, people's republic of china, officials and state media outlets also repeatedly condemned the u. s. withdrawal from afghanistan and cited the withdrawal as evidence that the u. s. is an

unreliable partner and declining power. the u. s. withdrawal was one of the defining moments of recent history. after 20 years of its military operation in afghanistan, the pentagon quit in the face of a taliban advance and left behind thousands of people who had been helping the u. s . army over the years. a bomb attack by an isolated group at kabul airport as people were trying to flee left at least 160 civilians and 13 u. s. marines dead. while the pentagon has been criticizing china for focusing on the chaotic withdrawal, the u. s. republicans had been pending the blame for what happened squarely on the biden administration. the biden administration repeatedly misled the american people about the real situation on the ground in cobble issuing public statements that were in direct opposition to the internal reports being sent by the state department and u. s. military. at one point, the state department spokesperson net price was encouraging people to make their

way to the airport and telling the press the evacuation was efficient and effective . but the airport gates were closed and internal med, most were talking about how they were too many dead bodies at the airport. and they don't know how to deal with all of them. well, they get more on the story now. we're going across live to former c i a analyst, larry johnson. thanks for joining us on the program. mr. johnson. so what do you make of the defense department heading out on china over the u. s. is withdrawal from afghanistan? is a sent, excuse me, it's a symptom of the skits a framing and u. s. policy that document that this came in is the a, it's an annual report required by congress called the this one is the 2022 national security strategy. and with respect to china, when you read it, you realize the opening law opening line and it says that the people's republic of china is the only competitor with the intent and increasing capacity to reshape the

international order. dropped out of the only one in the world. except they're ignoring what's happening right now with russia and china together, who are rich, shaping the international order. what, what, what this document provides is a ross on death. in order to justify increase defense spending. you've got to have an enemy, you got to have it. well defined that enemy, and so in the process on the defense side, china is now the ultimate as opposed to russia. but then when you look at it from an economic standpoint, what you see is that the united states is wanting to cultivate, has better economically with the chinese on a variety of frogs from the national basketball association bus with tesla apple. so that's why it gets a frantic it's, it's really pulling in 2 different directions. on the one hand,

china has to be presented as is the worst and ever, on the other hand, it's a lucrative market. the united states wants to take advantage of. what do you think is the defense department's motivation here? they just trying to provoke china. now, others, it's bureaucratic stupidity. i images, it just goes, it highlights the ignorance. i'll call him an educated people that are writing these kinds of reports because at a minimum they should have at least reference to the fact that there has been an increase in. ready growing ties between. busy china and russia on a wide variety of fund, economically, militarily, which is something that the united states tried to prevent for 50 years. going back to when richard nixon made his opening to china for the express purpose of trying to keep china and russia from coming together. recognizing that

a union of china and russia confronted the united states with a really an impossible security situation. what kinds of gone said the china poses a danger to us allies in the endo pacific. but do you think that this represents a sort of weakness in terms of in relation to the u. s. s. allies, they're trying to such a threat to it? well, the reality is the united states can do very little to stop china. if china decided to be that kind of aggressive. let's column an expeditionary military force. the fact of the matter is for the last 30 years, there's only one country that has consistently been involved with ex, but the expeditionary military encounters settling their troops overseas to occupy other countries. that's the united states. it's not china, it's not russia. it's the united states,

so there's an element of projection here. the fact of the matter is the united states sole means of confronting china, short of using nuclear weapons, relies on aircraft carrier task force. and those aircraft carriers are now vulnerable to the hypersonic missiles that the chinese have in its arsenal. as, as a result, the united states can bluster and talk talk. but there's really very little it can do in terms of military force to stop china. if china, in fact, decided to do some well, the u. s. report also states that china and dangers the newly formed office alliance. do you think, is that more of a concern about the strength of china or about the weakness of this new alliance? do you think? well again, this is the, the writers of this report or not even paying attention to what's going on with bricks. it's and russia and final working with the countries

of selfie station and the cost that even going over to the middle east, with saudi arabia for g, a new multi polar world, that's not under the control of the united states. and what sort of worrisome about this report is not so much the harsh language and the, the bombast. ready project, it is the apparent lack of understanding about what is actually happening right now in the world, in terms of the u. s. position. in the past, the u. s. could create these alliances and use them as sort of the exclusive club to keep other countries out or other countries in line. that's, that's not going to be the case going forward. russia and china are resetting the international table. and the united states is simply standing to the side and why need about the us media has been putting out reports,

saying that the us is actually having trouble supporting its allies in the region. specifically taiwan over just the sheer amount of support it's giving to ukraine. right now, do you think there's truth in those report, right? well, absolutely. look, the industrial base in the united states has been hollowed out. if you go back to world war 2, the united states was able to produce an aircraft carrier every month. it was able to produce a $147.00 ships a month. now it's talking about having to produce high mar missiles that will not be available until the end of next year. so the capacity, the united states to go out and provide new shells to help for the 155 millimeter house. sure. as an example, if we do not have the industrial base, and part of that is they've become reliant upon rare earth minerals that are in places like afghanistan, china, and russia. so it's just

a crazy policy of the part of the united states actually alienate the threes, who have the resources that the united states needs to build many vents advanced weaponry. alright, former c i a analysts, larry johnson, thanks for joining us on the program and bringing us those details. thank you, daniel. ah, well, now we go to south africa where hundreds of people have gathered to protest the expected release of the man who murdered a south african anti apartheid leader. demonstrators marched to the prison walls where the murderer is currently being held in the number of protesters held signs with the slogan. don't kill chris haney again, just days before his scheduled release. the man was stabbed in prison. he's been incarcerated for 3 decades, and the court's decision to set him free has stirred a painful merit memories for many avenue. i'm coming yet to demonstrate our

disappointment and also our demand for an inquest on the keeping of. what do i also doing yet today is to absorb the end up for me. they'll sell up again to i'd stated by what does lip in south africa must bend up dilution solution must remain here is not good. debrel is our government. they must do something please. for ours, i'm here to show myself put to the chris hung from movie to the is a c p into the amc and to the south african population in general. who believed that disobey, unfortunately didn't unfair. that john usually is is at least on pole. well that's the news for this hour, but stick around for more here on our to international cuz we'll be back in just about 30 minutes. ah.

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