or available to provide vaccines if those vaccines are authorized by the chinese authorities. yeah. why not? why not get the chinese protestors protesting against your mandates as well. so european big pharma is apparently willing to sell the china. you don't say what a shock you go, visit the president of a country and offer him a drug deal. did you bring any samples with you? maybe you could have asked if anyone wanted to go shoot up the vaccines in the bathroom right then and there. in any case, good luck trying to keep any big farmer revenues rolling in from china. if the you ever carries out that sanctions threat. russian state nuclear energy company ross item is expanding its charitable efforts to develop education in developing countries. this thursday it will host it's global impact conference, bringing together experts from 20 countries to discuss how to improve access to quality education around the world. the event will include both online and offline

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stalls negotiations on reducing nuclear weapons? do you agree the new start treaty could be a significant step, not only towards reviving broader arms control talks between russia in the u. s, but perhaps also towards enhanced overall communication with washington. at this tense time. why were they postpone? number one, to lease on our aren't we have never stopped any of the talks. aw, ah, any forms of dialogue otherwise, beyond the clocks white country, we underscore, and on the line, ah, all the time, our redness to continue from the point where this u. s. administration, the by an administration decided to halt these dialogue. it happens ah,

after our special military operation started without any explanation whatsoever, unilaterally, ah, and this is it, ah, the, you start country to this, a continues to be implemented her. this is an important tool that ensure predictability and sustainability all the remains of what earlier was quite sophisticated, complicated, and functional architecture of arms control in the world. but now we only have probably these bilateral treaty that limits the most dangerous or nuclear weapons of strategic reach. but it functions because apart from inspections that attract that much of attention, both in washington and elsewhere. as we understand. there is a great deal of other means how to insure visibility. all was

going on in this area for both sides. now i recognise that m a russia, i to decision to postpone. ah, the already planned a regular sessional, bilateral consult of commission due to be held these very days in cairo, egypt. but we did so because we couldn't just ignore ah, what has been an ongoing attempt by the us to add a problems to the plate. and dam, undeniably the overall situation in and around ukraine and around new territories of russia. rob is so difficult, troubling, and in many ways ah,

this is because of us actions of that just for gas on fire. now and again that we couldn't use a continue this business as usual. but the moments a u. s. wants to come back to the table and resume strategic security dialogue with russia will, will be there. ah, on the other hand, that eats away too premature for me to predict. when a russia will come back with beltran to dates for this forcible bilateral consulting commission meeting, ah, in any case, lease is not going to happen right away. ah, and i have my doubts in regard to possibility should do so. before christmas, before new year, it was rumored that during recent talks in an cra deputy foreign minister between russia and the u. s. that the nuclear issue was raised. can you perhaps tell us

a little more about that discussion you heard before from russian high ranking officials. but this contacts a was a very close to one. ah, i am not supposed to dwell on any of the details with respect to what was discuss what was not discussed there. having said that, i would also offer you a point on how we see a public messaging on the part, the washing them. this is troubling. because as ever and as this happens all the time. and as it happened many times in the past, despite old understandings that we have something delicate, sensitive, something that should not be disclosed. despite all this, washington leaks, and also portrays i situation in a manner that suits or eats interests. ab,

for instance, ah, we have several messages of substantial character on their part though view as high ranking officials on what transpired in ankara. ah, i will limit my comments further to this and ah, only to state that in some important aspects of these messages are not exactly compatible with our knowledge. how this meeting went on and what was discussed their terms like nuclear, a war on world war 3 were increasingly hearing that both in the media and on a government level. what's the purpose of that? who benefits from this type of aggressive rhetoric? i truly regret that this happens. ah, ah, more broadly apart from my, the immediate situation in the media and i,

in public discourse these weeks and months. ah, i am disturbed by the fact bad them. the very idea of a nuclear war became over time. more and more acceptable if you wish for general public this, this is one of the dangerous consequences of how new generations that never experienced any of the wars and troubles associated with this. and take it very in a very like a light way in a very laid back manner as if we're talking here on something similar to a computer game. ah, this is dangerous. i and the, it's in admissible him our of you or rush us part. we stay very firm with

both what is spelled out in our military doctrine and other relative is for men's. and that's a has to do with these are very important than central essential issue. the one that fundamentally on the pins on national security. but we also fully subscribe to the formula, which was coin several they decades ago on the fact that nuclear war and not be one and thus should not be fought ah, as late as junior this year, these famous formula was reconfirmed once again. now on a collective basis by all nuclear powers, so cold p 5. and we were gratified with the ways how counterparts, how a partners and our opponents work together to send this

message out to the broad public, to them through the world. ah, on november 2nd, a russia once again sent out an important message, informal press statement by the foreign minister, you from here, from this very building. ah, to explain once again where we are. so i see no reason why these, these course continues. it's in interest of those who want to stir fur further on the general sense of uncertainty and find ways how to continue this litany of blames, blame game on russia. we can not accept it. it's completely completely absorbed them has nothing to do with the reality. you mentioned in the last number of days that the situation iran, ukraine, has no influence over the nuclear deterrence. i believe that's right. what i'm saying. but it's in contrast to western views, what we're hearing,

who try and tie up ukraine and nuclear issues together. can you maybe elaborate a little on that? there is simply no connection between the 2. we see situation in ukraine unfolding, ah, in a disturbing manner because of us and so called like minded allies and some others ah, decide to they decided so and they continue to implement this decision, ah, to all for ever broader forms of assistance to ukraine in order to inflict so called strategic defeat upon russia, this is the hugest strategic miscalculation ever made by western governors, a governments and western elites. russia will never be defeated. russia will sustain the course and old goals and objectives of this special military

operation will be achieved. this is a very firm ah, unwavering result by our political leadership. ah, the whole government and the russian people, the people of russia. ah, having said that, i would underscore that there is meaningless to discuss and debates. ah, what a possible relation ah hypothetical use of nuclear weapons may have ah, over the situation in ukraine. again, there is no other way. but to see these as effectual statement on my part. ah, that is, ah no 1st use of nuclear weapons apart from 2 highly hypothetical scenarios described fully and completely, ah, in a very, in ambiguous form,

in our military doctrine. the one we want the 1st perio ease this scenarios, hypothetical aggression against russia, with use of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction. and the 2nd one, aggression against russia, ah, with use of conventional weapons. ah, that takes form where of the very existence of the rational state, easy job or the otherwise there is no possibility for us to consider use of nuclear weapons. as you see, as you easily imagine and conclude that it has nothing to do with the current situation. in ukraine crushes foreign ministry has said multiple times that the u. s. is increasingly close to becoming a party and the conflict in at ukraine. don bass through its weapons, supplies to key of us veterans, private contractors. they have been at documented,

widely fighting against russian troops. so is america actually not a party in the conflict? and are you concerned that endless declarations from moscow without any real followup, will be seen as toothless on perhaps a sign of weakness globally? first of all, ah, i disagree with the idea that there is no fall on, ah, much happens behind the scenes. much happens in terms on how we configure own military posture and what we do in terms of our military planning and our actual tactics. this is not for a more in service officer like myself to discuss and debate, but i know what i am telling here about number 2 on my part. yes, we do believe that u. s. and others come closer and closer to the point when they would be regarded as parties through these conflict. the risks associated with this evolution and

development are undeniable. and i huge and they're growing. but we all so ah, act in our pronouncements, in the most responsible manner, we understand and appreciate that such a statement may have not on lee political but legal and other consequences. so we measure our pronouncements with great care. i know these days when people are more inclined to send and receive simple messages, ah, such a game one as we said, ah, in our part of the world in the diplomatic world, shades and nuances such game is probably not the most popular one. but we do not abandon needs irrespective of how our adversaries and opponents

describe or interpret this just because they don't like us. we do so deliberately not to always stretch our own messaging. it also let me be very frank, to maintain a great deal of flexibility on how to configure our further action. because this is something that will be, that will be with us for a while yet. and we should be prepared to all sorts of contingencies in future big attempts right now, debbie, foreign minister, on for months, really previously to isolate russia at you had for mister love ra, for instance. been from the o. s. c parliamentary assembly and the russian delegation from the munich security conference as well. will such actions? will they work in separating russia from the global community? the munich security conference is just ridiculous. ah, it degenerated over recent years into the platform,

where only the west or a nurse entertained themselves and enjoyed, ah, nice companies or which other ah, the formal fog denial of alternative messages that was practice sized in munich brought us a well before this year of 2022 and the next year 2023. so low were the level of russian participation there. and we were close to boycotting these events on our own, or even in absence, in a hypothetical world with no special military operation, oil, c. e. e's are collapsing as a structure ah, aids being cynically abused by the very same a group of countries to diminish importance,

alternative views on global architecture and on european architecture. so ah, actually of minister law girls in lloyds is regrettable. but this is also a sign on how furious our adversaries are in terms of for just destroying the fundamentals of procedures. not only that fundamental or political and security architecture, but the very essence on how the international system works. they are afraid of truth, and they continue this ah, culture of denial in diplomacy. a b, a bullish presidency at o a c e completely completely nullified any relevance ah, to the sand by the section. i want to get your thoughts finally on the big issue that

they the big picture right now in the world. a multi polar world is that coming around is not close because russia, russia is not alone, but it is clearly seeking to develop its partnerships. busy all around the globe. what is moscow's vision of such a world as an aside to that as well? if existing powerful nations resist the rise of the east, the global saif, what's the consequences of that? i think that rise over new centers of gravity. let me use the word not centers of power, although this is also a relative notion. but centers of civilizational gravity, ah, cannot be stopped. much less stopped by will momentary means by a group of countries who ah, entertain, ah, the sense of their own superiority or others?

our vision of the new world order would be the one where international law is abs and where there is sovereignty and mutual respect. at the center, ah, off any relationship between countries. ah, no matter big or small, close neighbors or some one at a distance. i would suggest that this division nowadays is probably a further away ben. ah many would wish, but i am very convicted and i firmly believe that there is no other way. if our western union paulo world, ah, with all its deficiencies and distortions, ah politically, economically psychological in whatever form and also in the important barrier or

values prevail, then we will have a long term period off conflicts began small. ah, and the troubles that will grow well beyond what we see today. we should not allow these to happen. and we should have an upper hand in our defense of poor human values. that's what russia will do on international arena in the time to come. while we appreciate you coming on the program and giving us your time today, thank you so much, sir. j. rob, cough rushes, deputy foreign minister, ah, milton conflicts been simmering for some time. will show that she was a subscript whirlpool clinic with reynold know,

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