alliance continues to be the biggest threat to pan european security is also indifferent to the damage it does to the international system. ah, louise to come to russian state will never be. i've stivers, i'm phoning most landscape div asking him not getting calls all set up for a group in the 55 when. okay, so i need to bargain speaking when else calls with we will van in the european union the kremlin. yup. machine. the state aren't russia to date and spoke r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube said with, with

mm, you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us at life, esther hate kind of stumbled. our way through it and then we can take the lessons that we've learned from that and shrink the time frame down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? i like, pardon me, want to leave another part in battle with us. if i leave, i have nothing to fall back on. i have that deposit to do. i have nobody to go to, you know mean because i don't live around last 7 years. i have nothing and sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them. but just to say, i don't do that anymore, it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, well,

i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold dog, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling i had to hide this from world that opening up has really just taken my mind you in process and my solution to a whole other level, really, you've got to find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to. now it's like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my car is more. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting, you know, tell me poor and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've

had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of the people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our and the when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are. and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and lastly, i think the incredible power of compassion, it was very impactful. when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story did nothing to challenge it but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came out. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to me letting her brother raise me and my sister denied the rape happened making us go back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation,

the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from you, like i had never had a chance to just unleash all that. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. sorry. have you ever done this to anyone else? just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved it from

when i least as urban people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for years and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my star, then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me . and they treated me with compassion despite the horrible person that i was at the time the buddy might offer me a job carrying in furniture at cherry hall in jersey mall for a weekend, 3 days 100 bucks a day. and i told him i, i take the job, he is going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is due. and i said, i don't care. i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months still thing i was in the nazi chief would fit every

jewish stereotype religious right now like i don't bring them right or you know say a marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid i'm so sorry, 7 bowers for me. so i so embarrassed i did a rate for the customer, but he spot it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, but i remember only not too much on that day, and i just kept my boots under the little seat of his trunk that we're in. and you couldn't really put him any further than i were. and i know my knees were hurting. so bad because it's trying to hold up better. so for the whole right own swastikas looks at him every day. like he doesn't normally nazi and i just want him to see my boots with him. and then from me,

they dropped me off and they were full pay me and my paying cassie monday and i walked home and i just couldn't wait for things or feed me back. i'm not scared wanted i'm i'm done with it. i'm fluid. if it was 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group, the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so, you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it. and when you're bringing them out,

you will alert them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people that are angry that do this because they've lost someone, they've been better time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. and so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the ideology are removed, you can go to go get an anti mental from the cobra for a couple years. may get the rates and the same type of snake that big. that's how they do it, right? we're like the anti event on the main because we have, we had that many minutes so we not spew it and we know how to also make it an anti mental and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that.

you can't judge this person and expect to counter that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get out. i wrote jackson me, you know, before and after president, you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be. so you tend to be it. and after a while, before you realize it in a scary is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than i have so far does. where does that shift come from? how come you one day you went from? not thinking about that to really and i need to start making some changes. is watch, see watching my son grew up and was harbinger and every time watching the family, you know, saying i live in another family because i can be out there. the brothers didn't

like that when they found out because i mean, it just left me a little bit of a deal. said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot. go all through. and i'm, you know, i'm going to come to his car breaks or breaks. and i remember slicing south co design. i said yes, this is good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside my school and open this up. i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there's one thing, then someone's talking to someone in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out just saying they go all the have that hey,

ruins you clue a poisons. you're very so man, i'm doing a lot of human since really during the summer, in 2016, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim, hey groups tripled tonight, the every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against an alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland, the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement america, re, this country are great on their page for that. we hear that all the time go back to

where you came from. and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that's, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country. it's troy. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i thought that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about their culture? i don't want to know about their culture in your body. you could just go home, you know where to go. what the merch bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up. all those little sparks that already existed into a large forest fire. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does

not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great, a leave. 2 millions of white people who have seen their nation transformed the name of diversity. diversity that always comes at the expense of what he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay forward. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well . there's not thousands of tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism. that skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with you or being a training or anti semitism. you didn't serve you well in your career,

your friends in your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with. your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you. and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was with ah

good is your media a reflection of reality in the world transformed? what will make you feel safe? isolation community. are you going the right way? or are you being that somewhere? direct? what is true? what is great? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows.

ah, there was a state of emergency in florida, that's a white nationalist, was about to take stage 3 our day over here florida is grayson for potential violence today of a speech by white nationalist later richard spencer, who the fruit gestures gathering out. so i decided the only reason my to say, but i will say that back to you, all right, read the notion that they really were that way to find a stage spencer trying to do the noise for the kids you wrote and you know with

that stuff so, you know, i always check with these guy,

gonna get killed that here. so i got, i got this guy coming and people who say, oh is all love we hey, hey hey hey, love please. same people had a hate when i post randy, you know, i came on i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will cool. no problem the whole time. we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i don't get done with lose. it was go find more. really intimate said neil, i don't know if i'm talking to you can be like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers. they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day,

you know, just awful what they perceive by his, our parents and they end up wanting to rest in. yeah, i minutes thing, right. this may not be, don't spin, are usually spent on a magazine. you read my book. what is he doing wrong? why you sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common. you know, i some, his views about certain bay. it was certain style i'm girl and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the area nation. and i said, how a lot of my friends and different people get involved in the blow to cripps in different games they join. that's what's around you. so whatever is around you and your friends may be involved with whatever happens your, my state is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it. a son. his was just a different route. they angry white man, angry by 2 different people. the angry black man is angry because he has no home

has no vision, no way to provide angry white people, especially in a low income cause they have so many mental enrollment that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, now i would be proud to, if you know, down at the bottom with black people, when they got a reason to be you know, i'm white. what am i know? it isn't easy to see the thing around and you know, you know, no one year doc, doc, any, you know what, better way to focus on it or that, that all these people people different color, i guess a white man because he's angry cuz he doesn't really understand what the person and i know that america, he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed waiting to the

5th is back. i mean everybody. that's why it in america has benefited on give me answer that color or suppose a list are missing, you know, busy right now, given me or help me. i got somebody to understand not just myself, but my culture as a whole and look it differently. just because of my individual encounter. we talk to every week or 23 times. we lease that lease to time phone calls, you know, our phone goldhill. we've ours me . i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's, most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire

mental, emotional lifestyle change to humanize town, which allows you to humanize your like that. that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now, there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody and eric eric umbrella, who nation. anybody got a lot of on the same last 3 in that that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative's. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. so we don't ever forget that there are people inside of us people, you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x, not vitamin, you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to

see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men, they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing. when people feel more whole quickly and how easily ideology

of hate falls away and if you can reconnect them to the people that they thought they hated. it helps build that in the so that they realize that there are actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted in any shape or form from anybody is actually with why after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel it shows that degree. so i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like mission. but i have person to be able to have their different cultures and different people here. it really is good to be able to cause it to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're all in this together. this is a part of our solution and farmers are evolving into a powerful force man,

good justice, quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here are, let me get to choose which one that is still happening in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and seemed at a pouring support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i thought as i have something to bring to the to among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilt or shame at this point,

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