so it's no surprise that european officials are in hysterics. it's important that we defined own interests, our national safety, but also our economic interests. if we put that in an e u baskets and negotiate with the us, and in the end, it turns out we go way deep ultraviolet to sell. graf emissions does the us, well worse self. there are only a few weeks left. once the act is implemented, it will be too late for us to achieve any changes. i think it's time for our see reappearance to tell our american france that we are very concerned about the inflation reduction act. and that is good cause the de industrialization of europe, despite reportedly trying to appeal to u. s. congressional officials, directly on this trip to washington mccoy's learning. the hard way that elected representatives are going to do what's best for the people who elected them, regardless of how much a foreign leader complains about it or wines. it's just too bad that michael didn't

learn that lesson earlier when it came to sacrificing the interests of his own country. people for ukraine by jumping at the chance to be applying for washington's interests against russia. it looks like reality is starting to set in now with a german economy minister, robert havoc saying that they're putting together a response plan to what michael has qualified as quote, unfriendly american protectionism. but the big question now is whether the u. s. will succeed in cutting europe off from china, either through sweet topping or coercion, or if europe will finally just stand up for itself and say enough is enough. now, how does one go from hating pretty much every other human that doesn't look like them to preaching tolerance to new, not secret. that's the question or documentary next explores psychology. ah,

because of nato's insistence to expand eastward way of the conflict in ukraine and ukraine is quickly becoming a failed state and to humanitarian crisis. nonetheless, nato is undeterred. this alliance continues to be the biggest threat, japan, european security, is also indifferent to the damage. it does to the international system. i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled the joint from my mouth. and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. we

were violent towards those people because we believe that were the superior race. we were here 1st and this is our pantry. guns ammo, still tow doc martens, tattooing violence or just prerequisite to enter or exit 3 walked off. like if you this looking to cease about the fear, like he feared me being part of that movement, i got to feel a sense of power when i felt powerless. i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, join the military, keep your head down, go mainstream news. news

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and i began to hear about these organizations that were trying to help guys get out of the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand what the guys who were currently getting out with feel like what life after hate is an organization that was founded by 4 x skin head, neo nazi white supremacist in the us and canada. and they found each other and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe. and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with

. welcome and you're welcome ma'am. we're pioneer just where the 1st one is to do this for the 1st one. and quite frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless and disappointed. even if your desire to do this is new and you don't have the experience. each of us in this room has the capability to help people where we, once we're decision a path and anyone should have to do a loan. and if there are people in this room who have to do it alone in the beginning and you understand how difficult that was and what kind of critical role we can play in the lives of someone else, why my name is frank leverage. actually, philadelphia got in the movement at any age 13 going on 14, in the movement,

i got very active, especially very violent. kidnap somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of the moving to oklahoma city bombing that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the fireman right down the street. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to prison for about 4 years. and that's when i got involved the skinhead movement. there's meaning behind the color of the tattoo. like if it's a solid black, tad to a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i did some serious are not thankful i get that covered out. i have to look at it in a more went to treatment last year. and when i graduated, my reach out to white pastor hadn't been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with the white area resisted skinheads, and emerson didn't hes in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would

do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was involved in the skin that same from mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement. but the movement that left me, it was the birth of my, my daughter. you know, i get in that little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift that allowed me to we humanized i became a gang member. so her about 18 years and started that kind of lifestyle in prison. june home still freaked out after surviving a race riot became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifest like

to say towards whites as a result of that race. right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking members of my state. i had even made a vow that if i was going to rob steel, pillage, whatever it was going to be white in we could start to feel special and what we're going through here and it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic place. it's the same story. it's the same feelings it's, it's the human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has a very similar approach. this inaugural gathering of the former's, i think, is incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far is just us as volunteers working together as

a team and being able to handle the load. but that's not possible anymore. this countries in too far, crisis with we are being ethnically cleanse. yeah. in our own a regular we've got to like reserve ourselves. we've got a right to keep this nation, the nation that our forefathers in vision. that's what we're fighting for here. everyone moved together now saying the 14 words, i want to secure the existence of the white race in the future for white children. that's what this is all about, is about stopping why genocide, sobbing multiculturalism american white working class is angry. they, they've been systematically ignored by both major parties for decades. now,

i'm looking at these extreme white nationalist, white supremacy or not see these guys were active in the stream, right? the very, very end of a continuum because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there and ended up so far from what i consider to be the mainstream. because i think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why with this group that seems so privileged, feel themselves to be such victims. these guys are furious, and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad and you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. when i say that their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess. something's been taken from them with

the language that they use. it's all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get it back. i think i with the idea that i would ever back down to such little like mayor finer that i would ever got down when the governor of the state declare a state of emergency. if they think that they don't understand why they don't

understand the all right, they don't understand us entire moves with randy a sammy i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over can be so good to meet your brother. okay. wait, great brother will be there in a few minutes. all right. it's the hardest thing i have ever made at the time. my young 900 years was to get out of this. i was going to 20 is. i'm now going to lose family members that are going to lose them. when all is, every friends i've just had for the last 6 years and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out, fresh on like,

i think just like he one day to the next is still questions. things. yeah. but he, he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning his membership. he went from being in it to be in like almost instantaneous, same day kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the raleigh, the the the getting beat up. he was getting through protester side of things. people were kicking them in the house and people have to know that it's really ramp it in. people are getting out to turn to other things, alcohol, drug, other addictions. so, you know, it's, it's, you know, this make this clean break and so, yeah, it's, there's going to be a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle my situation when i got out it was like,

i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone. and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now is what i'm hearing is loan uncertainty. you know, cut off. i think happy to know the others are here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. understands where does like you get out of the movement to understand what is like post change is possible. there's a way out there is life after, hey, you know, with with ah,

[000:00:00;00] a let me say or ask you like the racial and you always have the little races. yeah. yeah, yeah. and this kind of fell into the next step and you know,

was in your like in your family and your community is ever ever more normal for you then? yeah, yeah. well i'm way, way i was afraid to be open about it every come. grace was a good person for them. never to that person. you know, they get the walking already. how do i need to know what i felt and what i believed right. most guys in the get out. they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course, your life are you involved actively as a white supremacist? michelle john? sure. it's all the time. we always make new ones. you know, they make them more fashionable. usually. i know. so just one big was the only for i know i,

michael i was like was coming off now. didn't want spiked both had pointed up you know, 44 magnum, you know, long, barely. you know, it's going to take it everything inside. it kicked down and it came back. clean, clean up on your cleaner. let's see what we left a couple of years ago for 3 years. you know, she up, she met me all day long in delight boys doing this on this call not, you know, a lot of change is getting thrown at your right now. you know? yeah, yeah, a lot the look, you know, let you know that using drugs, you know, familiar. he's gone and the racing was all correct if you will. when you guys are in lifeline. irreplaceable. you know you're reaching out to man, you know? yeah, didn't, didn't, didn't do william the person. oh, god, come through and hit me. and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know,

it was god you oh, no, not fair balls. and you know, when you call them today, we are definitely going to be down there like they got real got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing is good enough to glove, you know, one of us that you're struggling to keep going through scare selma. you're joining that, that, that group of men and women men who are facing the same change you're facing right now. i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of last the while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave or to afraid to leave for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want

to abandon the identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything. when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or political order that is racially, they are richard the what do you think of us have some coffee? let's talk. okay. mike michael. hey, nice to meet with me. oh no, no, no. what form or show us is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you can come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise,

and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in people that was like water to someone of the wandering, the desert correlated factor, and someone joining about when extremis group with child trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol, my case of it was abandonment, going out to foster care my whole life and being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff. and i've cited since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot when i was 10. walked in on him with another woman. and then bang, that's when the, the god fell off the pedestal. we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of,

of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused in my dad. you know, i used to be like another guy being another guy. and barbara, that's no lie. i walk in and you know, it's not a in basically knocked me out with a punch. i'm out fade the black. they form a very unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough, they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level. they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid as a young man as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse abandoned man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like we, we stuff it, we suppress it. the shame was, i think compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put it away and you couldn't be violent,

we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that, that's what i did. i feel like other people think they are nothing. and here's a group that comes along and says, we think you're something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity, it became the person who i was for 8 years. i found comfort and mostly because i was angry at myself, and my parents being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other . the ideology is secondary and i'm talking about every type of extreme,

whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top of that group here and my most when i got in prison and mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from a home, from a number. you know, so always goes behind here. so i figured the best statement i can make enjoy the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you. and nothing said that message better than the brother. much easier to recruit in southern now. when again, it is easy to exploit, you know, you have that person 247 around you. you know,

it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe make a difference. and then you want to do. and there is perfect. i guess you'd be here on around one and then not have a covered you know, hidden in all my touches. so i used to be the guy with a swastika on that one down the street and people would pull their kids literally. i've seen people pull their kids away from and i say this so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking to get on the life low down there. so now try to, you know, keep started like, you know, most of the possible. thank you that you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote cover. i wouldn't be live changing because i could never see that it doesn't come without me talking 1st. when you come from nothing you really have gotten up and you know, little power, you know, it's nice and you know,

those good to think you're in control or something. that's the whole thing about who, you know, power, power, power. so yeah, it's hard to leave that, it's hard to give it up, you know, okay. i will say what would all that? but harry saying, i've also taken on the bruise, i've had everything, all the stress, i've been through years of torture for them from say okay, that was for nothing. i'm gonna leave it alone. i'm go over here and be a nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist. the white supremacist is presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. yeah. in terms of living in african climate, it's a lot easier way. there are different like foods falling off, the trees. yeah. black and white. you looked at the victim service. i've looked at

a lot of victim service. okay. you're looking at how many wipes male on black, you know, rates were there, and the last 10 years, i don't know approaching them the euro. okay. okay. so like there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to to being criminals? yes. africans. yes or do you think it's just what it is? i don't blame them. you don't think it's, you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement and justice system and, and schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same access that africans. i, i think a lot of conservatives will sail african destroyed by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. howard immigrants affecting you right now. here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right now? i don't think we need to bring in anybody,

but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people, i don't know, i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went on a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come to a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down that path. i higher ideal of what the right white race can be, and i actually have a super human ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they, they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you

also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's rich by it's diverse and headed to the only way it's going to going to become that way is if it comes down to a civil war, i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow, it might happen in 50 years or so on. but this thing can't go on. what do you think you're really going to accomplish? and it's already accomplished so much like what identity is on the all right. and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms with me. i mean what, endo, to create a more beautiful world that is exclusive of everybody. but why people, lou, a because of nature's insistence to expand eastward,

we have the conflict in ukraine and ukraine is quickly becoming a failed state and to humanitarian crisis. nonetheless, nato is undeterred. this alliance continues to be the biggest threat. japan, european security is also indifferent to the damage it does to the international system. a r t gets exclusive access to the training base for the private military company wagner, one of russia is most successful units in dawn buff. also ahead of our story today berlin say that family not occurred nearly a century ago and soviet ukraine was a genocide. while residents of southern africa, st. germany has failed to adequately. i told him for a massacre. it committed there. on the same time period, south africa's president faces spiraling corruption accusations with the national