no gravy, but it is fletcher. and so give me the task was tremendously difficult, but sooner planted was determined to completed. he had personal accounts to settle with the ukrainian nationalists. i was standing in an alley smoking a joint one day and a man came up to me and pulled the joint from my mouth. and he said, don't you know that that's what the capitalists and the jews want you to do. if we were violent towards those people because we believe that were the superior race, we were here 1st and this is our pantry, guns, ammo, still tow doc martens, tattooing violence or just prerequisite to enter or exit before he walked off. like

i could see this look in a safe fear, like he feared me being part of that movement. i got to feel a sense of power. when i felt powerless, i got attention when i felt invisible and accepted when i felt that level we had a strategy, we wanted to clean our image up and make our message more palatable to the masses. don't get tattoos don't shape your head. don't get arrested. go to college, joined the military, keep your head down, go mainstream the news.

ah i began to hear about these organizations that were trying to help guys get out of the movement because only the guys who were in the movement could really understand

what the guys who are currently getting out with feel like life after hate is an organization that was founded by for ex skinhead, neo nazi white supremacists in the us and canada. and they found each other, and they knew that they wanted to help other guys get out. so the idea is to get them out, make, keep them safe and get that kind of support that they need from other performers in order to stay out with . welcome and we were thought, yeah, well, we're pioneer just we're the 1st ones to do this. we're the 1st one and quite

frankly, probably the only ones doing it. and we're certainly the only ones driven by 100 percent formless at this point in your and you don't have the experience capability to help people got in the movement in any age. 13 going on 14, in the movement, i got very active, especially very violent. kidnap somebody went to prison and i was 17. as i got out of movers, oklahoma city bombing that made me reach out to people to help the picture of the farmer dentistry. that, that little girl is something that will always stick with me. ended up going to prison for about 4 years. and i got all the skin and movement. there's meaning behind the color of the tat to like if it's a solid black tad to a person committed a murder and got away with hulu. i just, some serious things are not safe for i get that covered up. i have to look at it.

no more went to treatment last year and when i graduate my reached out to my pastor hadn't been involved with them doing stuff. hire portland, trying to reach out and help other people that are struggling to come out of the movement. i was involved with the white area resisted skin has, and emerson has in san diego for 13 or 14 years. we would do gay bashing runs and we would attack people just for the color of their skin. i have left people laying there that i don't know if they lived or not. i was involved in the skin that seen from the mid eighty's all the way to the, to the mid ninety's. for 7 or 8 years i went through a disengagement, but i'd left the movement of the movement and left me. it was the birth of my, my daughter. you know, i get enough little girl and the delivery room and my son was born 15 months later, they saw the magnificence of me when i couldn't see it. and they gave me that gift

that allowed me to, we humanized i became a gang member, spent about 18 years and started that kind of stuff and out of prison, june home, stuff like that. after surviving a race right became pretty violent and aggressive and started started manifesting his hate towards whites as a result of that race. right? because of my role in the riot, i quickly grew within the game one of the highest ranking, getting members in my state. i had a feeling made a vall, that if i was going to rob, still pillage whatever it was, never the whites and we can start to feel special and what we're going through here and it is special, but it's not as unique as you might think. it's really a humanistic play. it's the same story. it's the same feelings it's, it's the human experience and hate no matter what. what flag you fly it under has

a very similar approach. this inaugural gathering. performers think it's incredibly important. you know, we were able to get and so far, with just us as volunteers working together as a team and being able to handle the load that's not possible anymore. as countries in to far crisis, the we are being ethnically when they are going to reserve her right to jeep this nation. the nation that are for product envision that's what we're fighting for here. everyone together now saying before

the words, i want to secure the existence of the white race and the future for white children . that's what this is all about. is about stopping white genocide sobbing, multiculturalism american white working classes angry. they've been systematically ignored by both major parties for decades. now, i'm looking at these extreme white national flights premises. nazis, these guys were active in the stream, right? the very, very end of a continuum. because i want to know how they went from the center and drifted off there and ended up so far from what i considered to be the mainstream. because i think they can tell us a lot about what's going on in the mainstream as well. why would this group that seem so privileged feel themselves to be such victims? these guys are furious and in many cases they're kind of right to be furious. they've been delta bad and you can understand the sense of this range without understanding the sense of entitlement that it's founded on. so when i say that

their anger is real, it's because they feel like they've been dispossess something's taken from them. the the the language that they use is all a language of retrieving restoring, reclaiming your masculinity because you had it, they took it away. now you've got to get it back on the news

that i would ever back down to such a little read like may or finer that i would ever got down when the governor of the stage. whereas a bit of emergency, if they think that they don't understand what's in my heart, they don't understand the all right, they don't understand this entire movie. we me hey randy. hey sammy, i just wanted to check in with you see how you're doing before we come over can be so good to meet your brother. yeah. okay. all right, great. brother will be there in a few minutes. all right. it's the hardest thing i have ever made at the time. my

young 900 years was to get out of this. i was going on 20 is. i'm now going to lose family members that are in the room. and when, when i was every friends i've just had for the last 6 years, and they're all going to go are so just kind of recap and fresh out. fresh on like, i think you just like he one day to the next is still questions. things. yeah. but he, like he went, he didn't go through a period of questioning his membership. he went from being in it to be in all like almost instantaneous the same day. kind of thing. you know, he was got turned at the rally, the getting beat up. he was getting beat out through protest the side of things people were kicking him in the house and people have to know that it's really ramp it in when people are getting out to turn

to other things. alcohol drug was out, other addictions. and so, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's this make this clean, breaking it's, you know, it's, there's going to be issues that a whole $180.00 on a lifestyle my situation when i got out it was like, i'm alone out here. like i'm completely isolated. i'm alone and i would try to tell people what my experience was like, but no one could. we leave, you know, and it sounds like this guy that we're seeing right now. there's been what i'm hearing is loan uncertainty. you know, cut off. i think happy to know there are others out here to understand what it's like to be in the movement. to understand what it's like to get out of the movement . to understand what is like post change as possible, there is a way out there is life after, hey, you know, oh, me.

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racial and you always have been a little racist. yeah. yeah, yeah. and this kind of fell into the next step. and you know, was in your like in your family and your community is ever never normal. you them? yeah. yeah. well, i'm way, way i was afraid to be open about every come grace one's a good person. the prism never said that person, you know, they got to walk in already had it. i didn't, i need to know what i felt and what i believed. felt right. love love, most guys in the get out. they don't keep with it. i know if i, if i have a good person, that's what i have to do to click back. oh, so how long over the whole course, your life are you involved actively as a white supremacist? i'm michelle john. sure. it's all john. we always make new ones, you know, may make them more fashionable. you know. so just one big was the,

on the for i know michael, i was like was coming. so it was off now to kind of what i wanna fight both had pointed up, you know, 44 magnum, you know, long, barely, you know, it's gonna take everything inside it, kick down, it came back, clean, clean, sharp. oh, you've been clean. when every last couple years go for 3 years, you know she up, she met home all day long into life voice. this, unless i call not, you know, a lot of change is getting thrown at your right now. you know. yeah. yeah. a lot, a lot, you know, let you know that using drugs, you know, familiar. he's gone and the racing was all correct, if you will, when you get it in lifeline. irreplaceable. you know, you're reaching out to,

man, you know, you didn't, didn't, didn't do william in the past. you know, god coming to hit me and now there wasn't, wasn't that guy. you know, it was god you not fearful as you know when you called in today we are definitely going to be down there. got real. got real quick. i can't imagine what, what, what the future holds. sure ma'am, but if it's anything like what we're seeing is good enough to glove, you know, one of the most that you're struggling to keep going through, you know, scare selma. you're joining that, that, that group of men and women men who are, who are facing the same changes you're facing right now. i can't tell you how many hundreds of people who don't believe in the ideology of loss while they're in the movement are too afraid to leave or to afraid to leave

for safety purposes. but they're also afraid to start over. they don't want to abandon that identity that they have or that community. and they stay in because they have nothing to go back to because they walked away from everything. when they joined up at the top. what do you think about a nation or political order that is racially, they are richard the what, what do you think of a real of have some coffee was talk like like oh hey, nice to meet for the me. oh no, no, no. what form or show us is that you can, you can think as, as low as human beings can think in some ways you can do horrible things and you could come out the other side. you should have been so badly broken that there's no way you could come back from this. if you did so can have that right. so can you, if you are going to pretend that this is simply an intellectual exercise,

and you don't speak to the visceral experience that these guys have in the movement, you won't be able to reach that violence was fairly new to me. i know at the beginning i certainly enjoyed the adrenalin rush and the ability to instill fear in people that was like water to someone of the wandering. the desert correlated factor in someone joining about when the extremist group with child trauma abuse could be coming from a broken home and drugs and alcohol. my case if there was abandonment, growing up in foster care, my whole life in being physically abused as a kid by my an uncle and my cousins and stuff and i've cited since i was a kid, you know, and i grew up in the streets. i know my father loved us very much, but i didn't get to see him a whole lot. when i was 10 walked in on him with another woman and then bang,

that's when the the god fell off the pedestal. we started to act out at school and to go down this rabbit whole of, of defiance and anger and confuse i was very confused in my dad. you know, i used to be like another guy being another guy. and barbara, that's no life. i walk in and you know, it's not a basically knocked me out. well, punch an out fe, the black, they form a very unhealthy identity about themselves. they're not good enough. they're not smart enough. they're not pretty enough. they're on level, they're less than all my friends in the gang as a young kid, as a young man, as an older man. we all have very similar experiences. nobody use words like trauma or abuse or child abuse abandoned man. my father wasn't there for me. no one could talk about that. it was just like with tough. it was depress it. the shame was, i think, compiled with humiliation. if you couldn't put her away and you couldn't be violent,

we live our lives. and until we heal that shame in reaction to in another way is to adopt an ideology which tells you you're greater that that's what i did feel like other people think they're not tight. and here's a group that comes along and says, we think you're something that we think you're better, your special it was my family. it was my identity, it became the person who i was for 8 years. uncomfort. mostly because i was angry at myself and my parents and being a part of a hate movement, gave me an excuse to kind of remove my own pain and put it on other people so that i could project that and not feel it myself. it's sometimes hard to, to really look inward and see that maybe the cause of your problem isn't the other,

the ideology as secondary. and i'm talking about every type of extreme, whether it's fundamental religious ideology or hateful or racist ideology. that's something that is just a layer on top the best here and most when i got in prison and mississippi, the reverse racism is so hard core. i got everything from a, from a number to always goes behind here. so i figured the best statement i could make, and i've enjoyed the most vicious thing i can think of and let them know if you touch me again, i'm going to kill you and nothing said that message better than the brother. much easier to recruit in southern when again, it is easy to exploit. you know,

you have that person 247 around you. you know, it's not like outside where they can go home, get a break and maybe think a different then you want to do. and there is perfect, i guess you'd be, i was here on around one and then i know recovered, you know, hidden viewed all my touches. so i used to be the guy with a swastika on that one and down the street and people would pull the kids or me literally, i've seen people pull their kids away from. and i say this so yeah, i get that reaction to somebody who's looking down and like, live down there with sonata, you know, keep sure as much as possible. thank you. that out of you wanted me to be able to get some of this remote cover. i wouldn't be live changing because i people will never see that me, that doesn't call without me putting 1st. when you come from nothing. you really have gotten up and you know that little bit power. you know,

it's nice and you know, those good to think you're in control or something. that's the whole thing about who's your power? power power. so yeah, it's hard to leave that. it's hard to give it up, you know, okay. i will say with all that, but here's the thing. i've also taken on the bruise. i've had everything, all the stress, i've been through years of torture for them from say okay, that was for nothing and leave it alone over here and be a nobody. i don't think there is a single group in the united states that i know of that can be accurately described as white supremacist, the white supremacist as presumably someone who wants to rule over people of other races. that's a term from the history books. i in terms of living in a african climate, it's a lot easier way. there are different like foods falling off the trees. yeah. black

and white. have you looked at the victim service? i've looked at a lot of victim survey. ok. you're looking at how many male on black female rates were there, and the last 10 years, i don't know approaching them the euro. okay. okay, so like there are huge discrepancies in terms of crime. and that's our fax. but you think that they're more predisposed to to being criminals? yes. africans. yes or do you think it's just just what it is? i don't blame them. you don't think you don't think of a product of our systemic failures and law enforcement and justice system and, and schooling system. and the fact that up until very recently, very recently in our history where parents were alive, they weren't allowed to have the same access to why africans i, i think a lot of conservatives will sail africa destroyed by the welfare states. i don't really buy that. i think there was a certain, i think they were destroyed by slavery. how're immigrants affecting you right now?

here in whitefish white fish is deeply segregated. do you think we need to bring in more syrian right now? i don't think we need to bring in anybody, but i also don't think we need to exclude anybody if they wish to come in. right. how do you feel about that? well, i would ultimately exclude people. yeah. but i'm willing to say, i'm willing to say it, like i'm willing to defend the community. and most people, i don't know, i'm doing everything i can to protect my people in civilization. i went down a path and like you, i was passionate. i was willing to die for it. i was willing to do what it took to to, to make the vision come through a reality. i think your last, like i was for 8 years, and i want to know what you down the path. i have the higher ideal of what the right white race can be, and i actually have a superhuman ideal. i'm not caught up in, you know, justice or security or comfort. so white people are just, they're so good in so nice. it once me, it makes me want to puke they, they, they,

they really are accepting towards the other. they want to trust people. but you also need people like me who are guardians of these nice people. we live in a country that's rich by it's diverse and additive, a can only way it's going to, it's going to become that ways. if it comes down to a civil war, i think there will be a terrible presentation. i don't know when it's going to happen. it might happen tomorrow, it might happen in 50 years or so on. but in this thing, can't go on. what do you think you really going to accomplish? and already accomplish so much like what identity and his own the. all right, and i mean not to be good to go, but my name are now household to rooms to meet me. what endo, to create a more beautiful world. that's exclusive of everybody. but why people ah, ah, is your media a reflection of reality?

ah, in a world transformed what will make you feel safer? isolation, whole community. are you going the right way or are you being led somewhere? direct? what is true? what is faith? in the world corrupted, you need to descend a join us in the depths or remain in the shallows. ah ah, needs to come to the russian state will never be outside as on the northland scheme divest, i'm looking for

a group in the $55.00 with we will ban in the european union, the kremlin community up machine. the state aren't russia to date and r t sport that even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and with you know, there was no program when i left i kind of and all of us that life after have kind of stumbled our way through it. and then we can take the lessons that we've learned

from that and shrink a timeframe down. so there's less was less wandering in the wilderness, so to speak. when i was in the move in the last 2 years. and before i left, i was struggling with do i want to leave? right? pardon me. wanted to leave another part in it has been battle with us. if i leave, i had no call back right now i am not positive. do i have nobody to go to you guys? i lived around the last 7 years. i have nothing. sometimes it's hard. if they've got a swastika tattooed on their neck, it's hard for them. but just to say, i don't do that anymore. and it's kind of a long process, it's not like you just leave it one day and you're like, that's over. i had been out of the room and before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own.