stake in this shaping world, but it also has enough influence to, you know, be an influence or what do you think are some of the principles that are crucial for new delhi in terms of how this new great world is shaping out? or you see if you, the most important factor, you know, be or prime minister has said would be to be that it's a small war. and that's 60 some stuff be deficient in thinking we are living in an eco. so number 2, definitely he's feeling more because just one order number, see india as a member of it already signifies that in that. ringback stands for a democrat based on some call it yeah. and i speak to the people at

the for the century. what about when they call it sincerely, it will go big and small countries can. so their interests can have your voice in days that they're going to be very fast. but as you make me with me, there is a commonality of interest with what is called the global. so that's what i think a concern that is closer to that was that didn't seem to be that is the reality. so, you know, so i go on there. i saw that in the final point in their main concern is about development. you know, the country has made extraordinary achievements and the last generation of 15

years in the problem of you know, i think other than china, no country that's the sort of experience you would naturally like to get. it is followed by, you know, and gather in which is sustainable to the next 15 to 15 years. now i heard you say in another interview, one of the ways that the west has been trying to adapt to the fast changing world is by setting um, or setting up organizations like g 20, which would show sort of there are more neil of respect to the growing influence of the north west, but still keep the norm and the leadership of the west. let's put it diplomatically. do you think those efforts have been effective? you know, trying to show respect nominal, respect to others, but still preserving your own privilege. history

shows that interest hours do not have the gifts, orlan and loan on and we should be expected to be. so that is the most important thing to keep in mind. so there's a lot of patience is a lot of factors require i completely agree with you that the politics behind the creation of the 20 was actually if, if all of the towards the, for some reason of the been existing order. because for the d 7 at the last, the relevance and the locus has shifted every from any further. and so that it be 7. so then the use of them and this is buckled almost 3 years at that time to in the context the also the financial crisis at that time in 2017 needs to bring on board. the newly emerging countries

also in grid giving greater legitimacy for the leadership, right. the thing that on a ship was not meant to be shifting substantively. it would remain. we think that was the thing, but i'm, that's, this is ultimately one of the most important questions for human development, both on an individual and in a national level. we all need authentic respect for our uniqueness. and that automatically leads to the question of power distribution, because if you truly respect diversity, you won't demand the exclusive right to decide what's best for everyone else. isn't the concept of what the leadership intrinsically. so promised this, you know, i, i don't think this is one dimensional situation. that's kind, i would be thinking there in the sense that, you know, what you think, for example,

the, some of the reform admissions. this is going to go to the, on this issue that you're having today. and you see how difficult it is. you know, when i said, established follows this sort of, you know, you know, look at the structure of the, i went back and looked at those 50 shadows can be brought russia, you know, because to see all of the instruments in the hands of one big one countries, but that's not the whole story and you know, the process actually said the process is going to be extremely difficult, extremely difficult. and i'm not even in my life, you know, it's, that's actually the situation. i don't want to know. i think, for example,

in the united nations, properly and brushing russia has often pointed to some of those. so we have to take good columns and therefore be once a country's national interest, like india, use many charlotte proposition today under the circumstances. now you, you wrote recently that the united states is no longer willing or capable of shouldering these burden of leadership. and yet, i think it wants to preserve the crown and sort of be the privilege of the last war . because this is what the americans i use to this is what they define it as their national interest. how far do you think they will be willing to go in defending that sort of entitlement, both the un representation and in actual power terms, because it's not only about whether or not the countries have power or you know,

a prominent see that the united nations. but also how much they can utilize the global trade or global policy to that aims. cbs limitations today, unquestionably. and these limitations are only going to most of in the, in the, in the, in the, in the near future. because we be fussing be this proportion, the speaking the, this is the unit, in other words, the unit for the united states because the problem is it is unable to this. we did stop reality. that's some of the impulse we on the community. and it's kind of where he's required for solving any global problem for losing space. and so on your feet, we might just stop showing in order to run to say not to talk about placement. so

you said this is going to be the example in front of us is also for the united states, do it today. and i think we are. what we are wanting to know is agonizing is actually about that. that's the united states as having station because you want to get right to mentioning that it also, you know, we need to get some beats from this. this is thought that's the other end of the world that they have some shift is required in the american thinking in bio. and this is not only with regard to russia, all the world is also via sheets. unfortunately, even my,

this is allison europe. you know the city and keep them suboxone in the alarm system. zola off of that the same thing that seems to be a distance transition. and in a period of transition, this is inevitable. this will happen. you should expect. while ambassador, we also have to take a very quick transition right now for a break, but we will be back in just a few moments station. ah ha. lou needs to come to the russian state

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mm. welcome back to was a partner with m k, but kumar, india for mom, bassinger jeep cherokee unders breakfast on ambassador before the break we were talking about you know, the, the fact that the status quo, all western and dominated western centric world is no longer sustainable. and neither in political norion, economic terms, but the united states is still trying to impose its will on other states. and i think the current relationship with russia is one example of that. i don't know if you would agree with my interpretation, but i think russians were forced to launch and military operations in ukraine because they cannot because they cannot maintain that status while the united

states and nader ever pushing towards their borders. and she's doing that at the very high cost itself. i mean, thousands of our service men on the battlefield. many i killed and many of our ukrainian neighbors. i killed millions on display. so it's, it's a huge tragedy in both for us and for our neighbors. and russia is doing that by and large, by itself with other countries watching from the sidelines. gee thing though, other countries including india, have a stake in what's going on in your brain. you see on the where some of you know, you agree we are discussing today. it was got with some students are interesting, surely it is. it is, i think, you know, those don't both strictly balance. and when you look at it from

that perspective, you will find that that is going to be a limited role only for countries like india, even for the closest that i to be in this, this is the ultimate stone, the something between us and we have to understand what are the beginning unfolding in february to see he's only recommendation of certain things. we want the kids to my, my and i was posted in moscow at the time of the finally as the shows and was witness to that be. so if you will lapse and the end of the call, or we look differently as in the united states as we are in prospect that clearly i'm just thinking of russia russian history. you know,

that's out of the region by the middle of the 1990 united states already started discussing about working on fishing out the ideal fashion. so what was it all about? me see that it was being sent in motion from best buy more and more and therefore iteration in you see what the alternate it was a bit you know, and i don't think the russian mission will ever accept is subordinate because you see it's an issue with with a huge edits of national defense, which by the organization of i of the green by the united states, which began incidentally,

peoples and for the 1st edition their game began. you know, so this is something which, you know, is part of the same thing. the government and the, and the ceiling of so many things the was that you asked to change the united states. that is, what is the state. so what does that other countries can? they cannot do anything about this. this is, this is the situation. but today, you know, my next question may come across as a little bit strange, but i think it's highly relevant to our discussion because i was reading the other day about the efforts of some asian. and they ask for us to restore the positive symbolism of the swastika, they millennia old symbol that's used in hindu isn't in buddhism. angina is in many other indigenous communities around the world that came to represent peace and good

fortune, that at least 50000 years old. and yet, if use as positive use is banned in the west, sometimes discourse sometimes have been punished and yet in, in the west, in western ukraine and sometimes in eastern ukraine. the use of nasa insignia with direct appeals to sheep lar, hacking cro. it's is not just tolerated, but you know, for everybody to see how do you explain the fact that, you know, this symbol in its causative sense is all but abolish, but in a negative sense is more than tolerated in the, in the in philosophy is prevalent will ends even today as nothing to do with the ideal of the this was really right about that. but you know, we'll be looking at like business in this position to

be for being with the nazis didn't begin recently. it was there, even in the $92013.00. we know that isn't it. it be american companies working with looking for the rebuilding of the germany and the mutually beneficial leasing ship that existing at that day. and the kind of soft approach towards the face of this idea in europe at that time. so this is a different because they looked at it kind of the most to potentially be it can be and be ideal if there's somebody to me and it's on that at that point in time. and of course, it is entirely possible that the,

the only so reason in was something which was, you know, going on like in the rest and thinking they didn't find anything, you know, to be the major. let's just go into it history. so you see, this is kind of balance we did not receive you and i find, you know, you not the case with the americans and therefore it's very much damage even the germans, you know, and if i'm of the 24 being my don't go with security you do go with these reduced stuff, you know, in care. but, and that's what are you, i'm sure, well know, from instance, we'll also hear from indian philosophy. and there is

a notion that all things sooner or later come to the exact opposite. and we have had these examples, geopolitically in ghana started with american support of the talent by the way, turned into a tragedy on america's own soil. do you think that kind of dealing with very unseemly forces? do you think sooner or later they will come as in a form of doing the rank to their supporters? i think so because you see the point is to be the western managers. we missed the one because they control the information. and you know, there's such a cool since this is going on, you know, in the world. but i think for anyone to be reading the situation and then we'd be region ukraine, russia and the flow history and all that taken into account. what they said doing

this for the war has no use and anything even, you know, also to find it. so you're the one who's being seen incrementally and they want to war beyond their capabilities. we met the outcome of it. he's not difficult any for any internet, you know. so i certainly really optimistic that it can be turned on and i think it is being done is somewhat a see that's the beginning. as somebody who represented the engine diplomatically, i'm sure you have the greatest respect for your profession. and one of the things that really disheartened me at this time around is that you know, there's not only very little diplomatic negotiations between the, the russians and the americans. but even, you know, the basic africa, the basic show respect, the diplomats were traditionally show not only to each other but also to that

professional field. something like that is no longer will be required, but not tolerate that. it seems that a show of disrespect, very public, very punishing, disrespect is something that is that a venue order of the day? how do you see the future of diplomacy in the, in the day and age when? if it's greedy, accepted to be rude to one another, i mean on the diplomatic level, if we thought about this, this christian doesn't come with these things to me. but you know, i have to think on this, this is basically this is their one year or and this is a byproduct of the situation that developed in europe, in the past one a, chines and the american social again and the strongest supporters of america, yuki and so on also have an extra grains in locking the process of

implementing interaction. because what goes, what was the main challenge? one of the main challenges in the united states was the fact that in the post world war, this conversations began developing between moscow and western capital. and i know for us, i know that there was a profound relationship with germany. for example, you know, we'd be really, you know, been austria and so on. so you see the point is a, is back to normal diplomatic, good to see. and all this work in this, russia, that rockets and blocking that is necessary because it's not only that, you know, that the conversation is being locked. it is also the behavior like what, what was the property?

so the russian federation in the united states. no, you have any justification for it. so why we're not. so all this is done with the book but, and, but at the same time, ultimately in the final lenses when they're no longer be single seas of europe in politics. when conversations up to begin speaking, we said all countries with me in international are going to do from russia with austria. you know, so you see this conversations? i don't think that this is going to be a big question. well, let's keep our fingers crossed on that while the western diplomatic track is blocked, at least for russia, diplomacy is clearly developing and flourishing on the eastern fraud. then i'm sure you would agree with me that the latest summits of breaks on the shanghai

corporation organization, which featured pretty impressive attendance from manny has of state demonstrated that there is at least a nominal interest in kick, starting regional development. do you think it's just rhetoric at this point or do you think be they have of those states finally, ready to overcome the disagreements for, for the sake of common good. this is an increment process. it will reverse this term, but i think it is also an inexhaustible process because you see the what you have not been she what you are really a matter of these also that this is the so the local motives of growth for the one you want me to be patient. so you see that automatically in new dynamics in this situation. you see. so you know,

a begun saying that the needs with a lot of obstacles. i mentioned about the you and reform so. but the kind of a regional corporation is possible invasion continent. please also be more, you know, look at what the united states is done to it is actually an organization which is the biggest gen, be enough politics on the international. it is a more organization that's way you know, but you know, the attempt to, to be certain members are entering just, you know, obviously politics all on a dish and we didn't bet. so you say it's non beth and ingredients. everything is far from it. you know, and my country in my opinion, india ought to lead in different growth, you know, because there's booking standing and india made it

possible. but the time being we have to stop here. thank you very much for being with us to thank you of us and thank you for watching. i hope to hear again on worlds apart. ah. with only one main thing is important for naziism, internationally speaking, that is that nations, but that's allowed to do anything. all the mazda races,

and then you have the minor nation. so all the slave americans, proc obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this danger is go, you man, that wants to take over the world that was caught your strategy and walked out of it on your own. i not leashed off to exhibit in tablet loc nato to it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is so dangerous, is it? the law is the sovereignty of all the countries. the exceptionalism that american uses and its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is bad shareholders in united states and elsewhere in large obs companies

would lose millions and millions? or is business and business is good and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion. and who is the aggressor today? i'm authorizing additional strong sanctions. today russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that's constantly growing. a list of contributors, it's becoming the most in mind that we're we're, we're banding all in ports of russian oil and gas. new g. a g with regard to joe, by imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's your boomerang itself.

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