divisions in the us, the biden administration of much of the media have been defending the bill. thank ryan, i represent us value as well. let's cross live now to the special asi interview exclusively on this channel with victor boot. please, if he will stand by me. that's a sham murray of woodson. hello everyone. i am pretty. you know, i am now a member of color and in russian duma. but i was also an ex convict of an american citizen. and today, i have a unique opportunity to take the very 1st interview with victory boot has been far too long in an american prison. i was in prison for joseph and be there for no reason that's ask him how he is. hello,

victor gotten hello farber. how are you today, mr. good. nice. there has been just a few days. you know, i am a happy man. this is how i feel right now. sure. if there's any conditions on below, when you might just, well, i'm happy. what has happened this off the role? either you are happy or you're not. and one can change it for you to be happy. so the circus says wherein is just part of it. you have to have something inside you to be happy. it does not depend on where you are and what's happening to you when you might make a concrete up in the you see at the certain stage you have to understand the anger is self destructive. so this is like a poison fishes to represent on them a believe and they're watching. yes, you needed to be

a strong to normalize your forces and to do something. but when it lasts for so long, you get to understand that anger towards her cell. one is a self destructive phone with i'm not saying that no one should be punished for what has been done. but you cannot have this anger, this bite inside if you have to have forgiveness so far this. yes, this may be hard to understand why in our traditions, in our religion it is forgiveness of that is so important. yes. but how do you forgive other people, but when you understand your own anger, and if you learn, yeah, probably you understand what that means to be angry or you use this energy, the energy behind it is the same energy that can be an energy of good. it should

not destroy you from within, as low as possible in some situations. if this anger this spied from is dangerous, i'm done with that. what it was, perhaps the amount, every moment when you were angry, right. what's the most caring moment you have experienced? well that you probably don't want to relive but still because people so much well, hard to say. and what was the biggest challenge for me? what was the biggest challenge for me was not to be able to communicate with my loved ones. just one phone call. her mom phone back out to me. so when a lawyers came, they had their own issues and the fact that i could not talk to my friends and to my family. this was the biggest challenge. well, you spent a lot of time isolated right?

with how was it and what, how, why is that? because it's so scary. i only spent 4 times 4 months islip football. as you know, people go to butch and i. so an interesting book that i read and there was this message to the machine darkest and you're in mutual. this is the way you'll look down your ad that you at that matter. or though it's like a mentor or mentor, are dealing with it as the english saying, just so we have to be neutral, which as a so let me tell you what i been doing there. so you get into the cell and they close the door behind you. you hear this key turning see it. and this light, this poisonous light in new york for example, and m c. c,

block. sure it's got in the prison. and that was where the smallest windows are field so that you cannot see anything. so they deprive you of everything so that you are unable to see anything. and the color of the use of this white color white night as we call it in a rush. and everything is gray, so everything is in this color who created the american prison system. these were the nazis who is a corporate of after all their experience, they instructed the americans how you can break down human will. so when this door closed behind me, there's this silence. i had the rash of panic and i didn't know what will

happen. and the only way for me to cope with was to say, if i panic, what good will it be? so what should i do? nothing will help. and so maybe this is some kind of a genetic memory, something in our old lot. i did don't know where it came from. it just happened to be inside me. so i just let my heart do its job. i just started not just lying there and the steering in the ceiling. you know how i started my day for 5 minutes after waking up. i would love for you. this would be a hysterical love me. so at 1st it's very hard to make you laugh at this with situation, but then you understand what happens and it warns you up after locking for 5 minute

minutes. so your hormones, they just make it impossible for you to be depressed. so when you start your day by a whopping, for 5 minutes at yourself at this whole situation, do something, for example, this is what the buddhist or what people in india do. so this is like a game. and you get to understand that this is a game and when you treat it as a game, it turns everything upside down. and with this approaches, you start smiling and laughing and this is what gets them mad. when they see that you are not going, your hair is not going it. you're not pulling your hair out of your head. you're not trying to write on the walls on the you know, all the stereotypes about prison, certain things. and they see that you're always polite and sometimes they don't

bring you a meal. they don't turn on the light and then they open your cell and the captain opened it only. he has a key when the guard cannot open the door to give you a meal. so you can spend a whole day without a meal, and then they bring it to you in the evening and they tell you a sorry, and this is how it happens. so this, it says a reminiscent of the not see experience to so this is not a coincidence with them in like the media was a standard, it never changes, you know, for all these 12 years. in fact, i think so there was a hamburger on wednesday, there was a french fries. and on thursdays that was chicken, the slice of chicken, all of these bushel legs. and what size was that?

good. so i will not say it on camera. how i felt about it. so when i talked to those who headed the services, you say what are your complaints? but i told them, have you tried this? well, so what they would say, what don't, what is there to dislike? you just can't eat this. so this is in human i've spent 2 years in thailand in the prison. well, it was horrible and dirty and there was nothing to do there, but at least you could order any food you wanted. so if i want something, i could order it. so they would ask me, what do you want, but here, can you imagine this marina? for 10 years, i could not a the garlic or happy with strawberries, or could they be with parsley, for example. so when i was alone in this,

so i lost interest in food. i was becoming thinner and thinner. last a lot of ways. and i just become this, this interested in food. i was started going to force myself to eat because i am just doing that. if it carries on like that, i will be just exhausted. so i lost a lot of weight, a lot, a lot of muscle mass. and how did you make yourself? well, i knew that i had to change. why do you have to eat? why do mamma? yesterday mom, yes, my 8. so my mother for example, and i thought i would go home and prove that well, this is what i told myself if i will be sick and weak. if they grade me, this won't help anyone. my mother cries for several years. i couldn't even

talk to her with and but you know, i understood that the only option i needed was to make sure you know what the process not just to pretend you, but in fact to be the man you want to be that's will watson. and for that reason, sometimes i did not have enough time with the counseling mom, and it was really, really strict for me. i started learning languages, i started learning foreign languages and i had all the time. and i had a good text books and i was able to use this. i meant to benefit from it. i did study languages too. i understand. let's talk about, please tell me what that what will did the americans want you for and why,

which i'm going to do? well, i kept thinking about this too, but in fact, the well and normal person would think, why all this circus and pretty much something with those was supposed to be happening. even during the trial, the judge said that i haven't seen anything. why you accuse victor, he is a normal business man and many business people. they act this way. he did not do anything illegal, but since we have laws and all combined, but i'm pretty sure i do show you how the company that transported the shipping company. a good model though, right? stores are you. well, if you leave, for example, you fly from europe where there is a police to their customs authorities and then you arrive in africa. and then there

are government agencies there and they receive the cargo. whether it's just like putting in prison all the taxi drivers, for example, it turns out that they serve a drug dealer, for example. so white all the noise. why was it is with marina, what is happening to me happened to my country? i was probably like the 1st a testing sample like in a lab. so they tried this experiment with me 1st. and the most interesting thing here is this is not commerce. and back in 2016, the newspaper published a apartment for my cousin that victor booth will sit his whole sentence and we must make him an example for other russians so that they do not go. of course with us,

we're sorry. what was the deal that you were offered by those? you know, so there was a plea deal you were offered. so what were you supposed to do was it was right. you too. i think a, i had a public defender lawyer paid by the state, and there was of this famous a lady came up there and said gina show and she said it. and so i'm going to talk to political other sites, but it's like a show. and they are trying just to make sure that you accept this plea deal with my card on the printer. and the most challenging part to was when they understood that i had to change as a lawyer, and we prepared all this and we wanted to apply for changing the lawyer

and that we'll, we'll have our own lawyer. you know what she did? she brought an interpreter and through an interpreter and in the cord cameras where you can talk to lawyers. and she said, victor, i was instructed by allah for you not to make this application to make this statement to so they are lying, blatantly lying. so they got a radio for anything that ground games that are political games. so i respect the agents who arrested me and who wanted to tell me that nothing personal victor of this is just business with. everyone has a client right. if it does well at the time it to when yawned all decency and she told me, victory, don't make of this statement. don't think this application. well,

our instructed me not for you not to do this and i saw my wife in court and i learned that she was manipulated. how can you trust this system when it works against you? that's all stuff away as opposed to what is what you sat just not what happened to you is now being down to our country. is that what you mean? but i have been under sanctions since 2000 a music. so i was unable to make any bank transfers. i know they tried to arrest me, so i've seen it all. and over the past for 30 years, at least 22 years, i've been under sanctions more than a. so there is nothing new about this considering what is happening with us. and they started this undeclared war against me and my family. and then they started reading it so that this was spilled over to encompass everyone. and they started

this war against all the russians in 2022. 192014. the sanctions were applied. and now the special military operations started to ukraine. what do you think about it? yeah, that's just kind of it of a russian man like me, but i never understood why we didn't do this earlier. in 2014 park of there were people in the streets out there and they carried russian flags and were chanting to russia. russia, you don't boss that son? of course i do understand that not everyone that was already, i fully support the special middle child duration by could, i could share the skills i have and i would readily volunteer. there's not well to go during the jury trial. did you know you'll be convicted? test message cock with the whoo or no, i guess you did. and just i want to ask,

since you knew you were facing along prisons room, did you have any hope that you well, there is no way back and this is what i understood that the only way to get out of an encirclement is to attack. so it was a question of what can i do with myself? yeah, of course i could have panicked and start hitting my head against the wall or to try to pretend that i went mad. but i knew that i wanted to be a man. i am determined and what kind of connections you do have with the other inmate. what kind of people are the anomalies or who else, which was the most interesting thing is that because the 2 options i found myself among ordinary americans within the general public go from october

2016 until january 2020 from your printer today. so overall, before that i didn't see prison as i was in m to see the 10th department. so it says id x on steroids. what, what does it mean to do to describe, to turn this thing to be got you so you don't see any one ministers to reform this one once a month and you get to make a phone call home and youth group of only tenant of those to be the piece you can open the hatch so that you get the food when you export somewhere, you know, you're not just hank and your legs are in shackles,

but you're tied all over and on your cell that there isn't no 3 or that 3 men have to hold you. so i would just say things for not just using a stick on me like a dog. and that is from the time that you spent with the general population, lex short. how did people treat you when i was in prison? they were black people and latinos. what was it like for you and your son? well, you know, and marian, most of the inmates are african americans and there were quite a few latino inmates and there were very few white people, just ordinary americans. there were local indians as well. the indigenous people.

this is a special prison, and these are the prison, mostly for sex offenders, or those who could not stay at other presidents. for example, they betrayed one or and i gave even an nickname to them. here in the united states that everyone, the reports on everyone, it's not just about inmates but guards. they report on each other on their colleagues. by the way, you're talking about the rule 35, just because i spoke with my students to them. and another question. so how did they treat you didn't know your name or you think it were someone else? well, they could not pronouncement incorrectly. they would say by then i would say how it should be spelled out, and then they learned. so when someone mispronouncing your last name,

i will say excuse me, my last name is pronounced this way and i so i knew when someone that misspelled my last name, i would know that this is what is there a new guard, or they haven't like a message they want us to send the message, blah, was not there, it's always, well, i understand you had an opinion and you to watch some news. and you are an expert on africa. so you probably saw that west is going back to africa and it's part of the conflict for the east. so the situation we're in right now probably deserves a separate conversation. so i have lots of thoughts and observations that i can share. i tried to read anything i could to get my hands on all the interesting materials i could acquire and there were people who held me and who sent me

a lot of stuff. so there was a time, for example, just imagine than i had 400 folks in my cell phone. i know a lot of those things to you. all law got help through donation boudreau. so i had fence abroad, and detroit who stems me 3 or 4000 books, there wasn't one person this many books on brewer. was there anything about africa? and then, what is your vision of perhaps will be a platform where the us and russia will sort out the interest. i don't think this will be a confrontation between russia and the united states. africa is awakening. africa is becoming a driver of this process. we're not, no longer telling them you that this is the way you must act, must listen to them and help them. because now it is all clear what is going on in

the west is suicide for civilization, and then this will suicide. going to be prevented me at the will get a couple in the non the western world, so not in the anglo saxon, we're outside of it. so this will be suicidal for the entire planet. the probably and this is happening in all sectors and areas. this is about the drug trafficking and there is the, the l g b 2 plus issue, for example in american schools for example. first year students, for example, in the for the 1st grade pool. children told that there are 72 genders, not just like gays, and straight people, but 72 new genders. and this is what is

much set forth in the curriculum is so that the boy can be a girl, for example. so he can wear address, were there any transgender cases in your prison? so this is just like an example. for example, if you do a person who is in prison on serving a life sentence, so and then a 62 year old old covered in tattoos with a lot of missing teeth. and he served in vietnam and, and recorded one day, which was lost all this he arrives about them. and it turns out that he is now a woman that he is wearing cosmetics, and he is a, wearing a broad under his shirt. so i am asking him, jeff, i, you math or something. and he tells me, i'm not jeff anymore. i'm jessica. and when i saw this,

i thought that this was some kind of a joke, but then i understood magazine and you go to a store and you see a list of things. you can buy female panties, cosmetics pretty much all were various cosmetics, and i mean, you see with cards, they understand this, and they're just perplexed by all this. why is this happening? as soon as you sign up for this, you get a lot of supporters. you get that money transferred as people start calling you people start visiting you because this is how it works in the united states in 3 or 4 years, you don't have no family anymore and no home. so with this and you small group, it's about $800.00 people and they all they have left is of the prison and all they

can do is work that preaching and they work to as far in the labor protection department. so what, what did you do there? and you must, so i work this in this small department on issuing various p, p e and checking the documents and does infection and sanitation come to me about the fire extinguishers. and so i worked in this office and i could read a lot, i could get to understand how this system works. so this was a unique experience and you know, how much do they pay you for today? paid me about $40.00 an hour, but this was just a few hours per day. so it was a very interesting experience. i did not treat this as work, it was an opportunity to see how the prison system works and how so i had to

check all the forest english. for example, every month, were there any accidents in prison while you were there you booted that was so even if there are fights. so they were just for show stuff. you know, were you ever in a shoe, please? no, never. i always knew the better of it, no more able to avoid this. for example, there could be some punishments, so i would be deprived of my right to phone calls or no. no. it has some special name, right. thank you some terminology. yes. in the, the language is quite special, so i've talked to one of my acquaintances and she told me that all

of these words and terminology is like, check down and locked down, stay come from school school. my, you know, really one of those are a, did that can read the you gumbo recorded so there were specific days when you would get hamburgers or chicken. so everything is a little under the same system. for example, this a locker system of use and lockers that you have just like in schools. so every person has a locker and you have to put your belongings there and close this locker chaslek medical it. well, a lot of there has been an american press about you. is that you had any connection with taliban? is that true walker? no, i didn't not have any relations with the tell him been. and when there was escape for those, your ec escape. and they were an example for me. they served as role models for me

. the taliban. good prize on my head. and how can anyone say that i worked with taliban? just don't think about them, grandma and yet the american express. keep talking about frontier like you were dealing in arms to talk to regimes. go through the room and you could then you was and you know, well the americans that don't take the weapons anywhere. they accuse me of delivering to hundreds 10900. thanks to the taliban. how can you do this? 100 flies to afghanistan. so where is the evidence? right? you know, so it's just like saying something and then just leave it hanging there. so they lost faith in their own citizens. i grew up in the soviet union and when i talked to.