it read me the forgetting our responsibilities to our people, to our citizens, and we are speaking about social areas. all the plans that we have is the key is that you will do shots all the objectives that we have that we are going to fulfilled them. we are not going to repeat the mistakes of the past, one in the interest of increasing enhancing the military capabilities whenever it was needed or not. we were destroying our own economy that we will not military lines, the country and militarize the economy. first of all, because the level of development that we have now, the structure of our economy and so forth. and it does not require that we do not need daisy and doing something we ship to damage the country to me, to damage our people, to damage our economy, to harm our economy or social. but we can be, are, we are not going to do that. we will continue to improve with our forces and the

military components and we will do it gradually. you can see simply without any fuss, where will enhance our defense capabilities in general. and we will resolve the objective, achieve the objectives that we have are looking for the special military operation . i agree with your proposals, considering the structural changes, all the armed forces show up for this board meeting. we will speak some more about this. you feel i would like to things all of you for everything that has been done and i'm confident what you want it. and i just, i think you can feel it yourselves on that the sentiment in the country to the entire country is looking at the armed forces and wishes you all the best average success. and we have no doubt that we will achieve all the results that we have outlined that who have outlined you from us. i have no doubt

that all the objectives that we have will you will be definitely achieved and accomplished. thank you all the best me now. all right, you've been watching the live feed right there from the russian president vladimir putin at his meeting with the ministry of defense. just just about all of the defense department officials that with this meeting with putin and of course that of the secretary of defense, mr. sort of a showing the final comments just now from the russian president mentioned. he said that all objectively in the special military operation in ukraine will g. she, some of the earlier comments coming from the russian president vladimir person. he was saying that they are increasing the production and the use of hypersonic missiles, a weapon that is on the parallel in the world. there are also increasing the

production of u. a. v. 's a prudent naturally said, and it's interesting to hear a worldly to say this, but he said that russia has no limitations in funding. the military is getting everything if need this figure. now the secretary of defense, so sort of a showing was i took the podium, he said the western countries are using all of their assets against russian soldiers in ukraine. ultimately, he says that western partners are turning a blind eye to attack even linking them to terror. attacks, for example, the continued stripes on the jaffa or nuclear power plant, for example, showing who is concerned by nato forces, increasingly encroaching on rushes border and on the border with better roofs. but you also said that russia will continue to strike energy and military industrial complex parts of ukraine. the country has already suffered severe losses. and you also said, and this is a very interesting point that i found personally surprising, sort of showing who said that the west has now more money in ukraine than america

spent in 20 years in afghanistan. and finally showing who's saying it's a full on information war. and a war of deceit by the west, against that of the russian federation, where you can read much more about this whole address today on our website r t dot com for the meantime though political am listed john catholic and senior editor for issue inside media is joining us here live in the wake of this enormous set of speeches. that's so good to have you here, john. a lot of things to talk about. they was saying that putin saying essentially the russian army is now facing the whole might of the collective west. what you might call the best of the west. how do you, how do you read into that john? first, it's great to be back in the studio and in moscow for an analyst. this is like having a multiple birthday gifts. it's very interesting to not only watch what president putin and the other, so it says, but it's how they say it and also which the fact that what they don't say. and in

this particular case, both men did talk about shortcomings, talked about what needed to be changed. that helps give credibility. so it's really important to see that. and when the president talked about limited resources, you know, in the u. s, you may know there has been this discussion of blank check when it comes to ukraine and the republican party and some democrats have said, you know, there is no blank checks on a blank check for anything. and in this particular case, you know, the russian federation is no different, you know, there is a limit. what we don't know is how we lastic or inelastic, that limit is. and so the government of the russian federation, just like every other government, is going to need to decide where to put its resources. how much can be put in with the general set about afghanistan. and i would expand that to iraq, to the numbers actually are about to trillion over the decades. and so thus far, us in by the 24th of february of next year,

we'll be in for about $200000000000.00. and that's going to be about a 100000000000 defense humanitarian related. and then they'll be another tranche of that with respect to more military aid that then you combine that with the ukranian government saying they need $5.00 to $7000000000.00 a month to operate by the end of next year or 2 years in. this is looking at nearly a $400000000000.00 operation between the u. s, which will be contributing about half of it and the european union and non european union countries that are big going to be contributor the other half. and this is all borrowed money. and we're not yet talking about reconstructing anything. we're just simply so when the re for now is about pumping weapons into ukraine to further the conflict of the u. s. secretary of defense, austin said many months ago we want russia to bleed. yeah. and what's the, what's so profound about this conflict is that the same actors are providing funds

to both sides. because you have the countries that are supporting ukraine and that money's generally borrowed taxpayer borrowed money, whether it's european union, whether united states or other government. and on the russian side, the exports of critical agricultural commodities and critical minerals, et cetera. those continue and companies in those countries are paying the russian federation. so it's sort of unique that we have the same parties keeping this going . and in the end, it's all going to be about about the money went out. it's also going to be about the negotiations. don't, isn't it? because i keep saying that he says that whatever happens at the end of the day, we're all going to eventually we're gonna have to come through jaden table. it has to come down to talk to john. i wanted to ask, you mentioned this figure of $400000000000.00 not being spent by it by essentially western professional partners, led by august, led by the usaa re regarding the ration that their operation in ukraine going

against russia. if it's, if it's a $400000000000.00 bill right now, but to what length does not suggest? the certain professional partners in the west are prepared to go to, to either prolong this concert or is they say to be russia in the end? to start with on the negotiation, the president, putin and again, today, you know, he, he went around and, but the pretty squarely said, you know, we're open to discuss, we want to discuss. and that's the right tag presence. lensky has some, you know, his position has basically been here's what the russian federation needs to capitulate to. and then we'll have a negotiation that's not negotiation. that's just someone paying listening to go to washington. john, he's on his way. should be there in a few hours. that's not a visit out of strength. that's a visit out a week. but this is what i was going to ask you, because here's the thing, says the landscape. basically he's been complaining for many months now that he's not getting all the weapons, he needs all of the funding that he needs. for example. now the western press is

showing this as like a college graduate coming home. they're opening up the doors to celebrate. he's probably going to speak in the senate or something of the session of congress joint said, well, there you go. so he's going to run in for us. it's easy is the, let's keep going to washington because he is having a difficult time getting the weapons on the aide. is that why he's going to? absolutely, he using so yes he, there's always been a distance and this is from, from february 2020th between statements by the us and nato, which has been, we're providing ukraine with everything it needs. the ukrainian government has said, but you're not providing everything we want. there's always been this distance between need and wants, and now many people are paying attention to it over the past 10 plus month. that gap is narrowing. and so, presence of his, he's going to go to washington is going to see president biden is going to meet with members. there's going to be a lot of fanfare. lot of her on

a to roll out the red carpet ice. he's going to get it. but the reality is we have a change over in the house of representatives. come january 3rd and kevin mccarthy, the likely incoming speaker of the house of representatives has said, there is no blank check for anything. he was criticized for that. but it's sort of what a responsible official has to say. there shouldn't be because this isn't as though the money's been taken out of a wallet somewhere or a bank account. this is all borrowing. every one who's been supporting ukraine, it's borrowed money. so who's going to, how, how are they gonna put, who's gonna pay this back? i should ask, who's in a foot, the bill for all this, they're gonna make, they're going to say russia has to pay for this. cuz russia created all this and then we get to it, which i've been focusing on this for a long time, which is the $340000000000.00 and central bank assets that were frozen. 30, a 1000000000 is in the united states. now this is basically a wallet, so it's cash money. and there's a reasonable belief that if someone goes into your house, burns your house down,

that they should be responsible for repairing and, and so, what would seem to make sense is european leaders particularly since they have most skin in the game, would say, well, that's our 1st place to look and as matter of fact, that should be our 1st place. poland spent a lot of money on refugees, hungary, romania. so let's reimburse them out of that money or minimum. let's take the interest by 2000000000 so far, 200000000 a month. but no. what they've all been saying is, no, no, we don't want to touch that money. we would rather borrow money to pay for the potential $35700000000000.00 reconstructing ukraine. and it gets really interesting because the reason they don't want to touch the money is they're afraid that since, as a sovereign, russian government money that if they touch it, then the primacy of the u. s. dollar the euro, the yen, the pound in international change could be jeopardized. but then you as then it comes to that big,

big question. the central bank of the russian federation never made a move prior to february 24 to bring all the money back. and they haven't made an effort on the 25th of february. why do you think that us it's either you have the, it's, i don't have answers, but have questions. one question is because president put the government here, felt that whatever they were going to do, they were going to be able to get the money back. second is that if they tried to start bringing it back, even if they done in january, it would have been a signal and perhaps sanctions could have started earlier. you know, sort of pre sanctions. i say ok. and then the 3rd is that it's a cost of doing business. so we're, you know, it is what it is. but here's what's going to be a spectacular political moment. if this gets to a negotiated to a cease fire, something else within president biden's term. and if they don't want to touch this

central bank money, at some point, the secretary, the treasury, is going to send a wire transfer $38000000000.00 to moscow. now, i don't think a lot of governments are going to be able to survive that especially parliamentary type of government where these heads of state and heads, the government, after everything that's happened, are going to say, yep, it's all going home of. so, you know, there's still a lot to one wind with this, but in the end, my thesis is always been president, air to one is in turkey, is sort of the folk upon what all of this is moving. he is going to extend an invitation to president putin and presidents lensky, to come to ankara to the presidential complex. present gonna accept 1st and he's probably going to put the, put his vehicles on the lucian's and send them to ankara. and the pressure then is going to be on presidential lensky to show up. and i think that we'll see that

sooner rather than later. but i think we'll see it before the next troche of 200000000000 dollars moves. well, in the ukraine took it out sooner than later. john, i wanted to ask you, there was an interesting article just a few days ago. i think it was politico where they basically got some conversations leaked from the us white house, where, where it was suggested in the white house that they're going to start whistling down the funding for ukraine because they want to start dropping the story further down the new cycle now if they were to do that, one might imagine that not started chain knock on effect a domino effect. maybe the u. k would also start giving out less. you look at this in the past recent billions of pounds, the u. k. is given to ukraine, the latest charge is only 340000000 that has been whittled down recently shewn act . yes, the sooner the new prime minister you force johnson had said, we're all in whatever, you know, whatever takes blank check. the next prime minister, sort of continue that mistrust,

but prime minister. so he's looking at economic realities and they've already reduced some of the funding for refugees from ukraine. and so that is in that isn't a commentary on whether it's right or wrong. it's just economic realities. are beginning to set in, because there's only so much money. there's only so much money that can be borrowed, and it's a matter of priorities and what the world now is, particularly europe in the united states. we've got coven researching which adds a whole nother layer as far as the government's connectivity with the people. what money's being spent for what? and we also have this massive legislation infrastructure legislation. that's all that been passed that's coming in. and then you have ukraine, and the con, the war with russia sitting there. and president mike crow has been forceful. former secretary, they kissinger's been forced,

one also gotten none of his rated for it, but the marches on toward these 2 heads of government, heads of state, sorry, need to meet even if, even if not much comes of it. and there are 2. we're watching for 2 metrics and we don't know the answer to these one. not enough people have died yet for either country to say enough. and the 2nd is not enough infrastructure and that has been destroyed. you for the russian federation you ukrainians. they don't want any of this, that to happen, and i just came from ukraine. but at the same time, it's a horrible dest question to ask. what would you rather have the russian federation target? would you rather have them go after an apartment building with $300.00 people in it, or an electrical plan and to what you were saying about the media and moving it

down. the media isn't excited about showing a burning electrical plan of care and it doesn't have that that, that sexy peeled to it. so you are seeing this movie down and present. so if you're going to try to get all this back up. but there's a limited amount of resources, and also he needs to convince people he wants this to stop. because right now the message that's moving through the u. s. is what his goal is to get nato forces in ukraine and then having direct conflicts. but the reality is the proxy war is already here already. it's already like that. yeah, yeah. when, when a, when, when something that's been provided from another country breaks down in ukraine, they're getting on zoom. they're getting on. microsoft teams are getting on skype. they're going, how do we troubleshoot this? what's the difference between someone from the armed forces of nato being there and being available to help?

i'm. so if you're the russian federation, you're going to say, don't you put you put a good point on this? and before we go anywhere, i've got to wrap this up, but i have got to ask you one very, very quick question. it's kind of out of left field. so just bear with me here for this, or i just wrap this up very, very quickly. israel has produced its 1st national intelligence estimate report. the israeli ministry of intelligence is warning that the world is standing on the precipice of a transition to a new global arrangement. israel, these ready government needs to sphere the nation towards strategic geopolitical goals. it says what the world will soon face, a series of crises, striking similar tenuously, and that they will, it will reorder the planets, geo politics, the place of technology and the world economy. israel needs to can really balance its relationship with america, but also improve its relationship with so called a rivals, russia and china. how and just quickly please. how do you read into that statement?

self interest. and it's not surprising and it's probably decent strategy. what they're alluding to is china will try to absorb taiwan and turkey or may look at cyprus and they both may go simultaneously. but your, for the state of israel, they get 3 plus $1000000000.00 a year from the united states. and also they develop the iron dome, which is similar to patriot, which they've refused to give to you crane. and they said it's because their relationship with the russian federation being able to attack sites in syria is more important. and of course, this is the country that and it's the goal on heights which belongs to see that you go join. you don't make and we consider all day comb with agent. and it's nice to have you had john couple of the senior editor for issue insight media. gosh, i got to pick your brain another time. great to see thanks. now. thank you sir. thanks jerome and thanks for joining us. you are not the international,

the china. so it's ready to boost relations with russia to build what it's lead a calls, a just world. the remarks came during a visit by the deputy head of rushers, national security council to beijing, where he met with a sheet and ping dmitri met via that force or brought a special message from vladimir putin on which are to marina cause. the river has more details on they discussed the number of international issues and they agreed once again, they reiterated the fact that their approach is very, very similar on a number of these international issues. also, using things said that china is ready to move closer to ross. so for a fair global governance, they discuss their strategic foreign policy corporation, including within the u. n, as well as other multilateral platforms, like the as c o bricks and the group of 20. also, of course, they've touched the phone, the ukrainian crisis,

the ukrainian conflict as user and paying said that he express hope that both parties will maintain restraints, that they will maintain rationality and hold a comprehensive dialogue. there was also a letter that was passed on from the meeting with a dive on behalf of black men who transfusion thing. and in that letter, it expressed that there was an unprecedented level of russian chinese relationships . and when it comes to political dialogue, practical corporations, the notes also express confidence in the continued progressive development of and to states and to party ties. now with the new leadership of the communist party of china. and also what's interesting is choosing things said that the relationship between russia and china has the test of time for all the international ups and downs. they remained close and they're moving towards one direction. and once again, like they said, they're reiterated the fact that their approach is similar. now that we're seeing

that the west is so eager to make it seem like they are the ones who are in charge of the world. and we're seeing now that we are talking about a multi polar world. it's not just the west in charge. so we're seeing now that russia is pivots and more towards the east. something that we've been seen actually happening over the last decade, really. so now they're cementing those pies, it seems, and a trying to find more ways that they can cooperate and again, cementing about friendship and that unity. now the discussion to all took place as the head of the russian space. corporation ross cause most stated that moscow and beijing of also reached an agreement on cooperation in research and outer space. in fact, they planned to build an international luna research station and we spoke to china global tv network report. as tony who said that beijing is major principle in international cooperation is respect an opportunity for all what china china is talking about. the space as

a common community. and china has always said it's open for all kinds of co operations, not only with russia, but with a range of other countries, including, i think, with middle east and other countries, and talking about the moon pro. it's a long term strategy for china. and it's aiming to view international ah, science research base, i think by the year 2030. and that is the project. the china has always said that that's not for its own before the benefit of the entire humanity. in this, again, open jo amaya had delivered a letter from fulton and china has said that chairman of that russia united party, russia party, has also about more co operation of the 2 parties and the 2 nations, especially in areas in trade, energy and agriculture, and promote that partnership as we talk about that and the full name of that

partnership is china. russia, comprehensive, strategic partnership of coordination for new or new era to a next level or i crossing live out ross, find golden asia, political risk on list? who's joining us here? one or 2 international, great to see you today, ross, have a look at this president shooting thing. a state of the china is ready to boost relations with russia for a more quote, just world. what does he mean by that? exactly. well, we want to look at it from a somewhat more simple angle, every time that china makes some statement about events in ukraine, russia, there's been a lot of speculation that china is backing away from what in february was described when the 2 readers matter without limit relationships, so i think frankly there's just a lot of wishful thinking among pundents in the wise that they think china is

backing away reality i think is what we saw in the statements when, when maybe i was in beijing and meeting with jim ping that this relationship works fairly strong still and there's a number of areas where they continue to cooperate areas where they're looking to operate in the future. and sometimes i, i, you think that analysts and politicians in the west they, they reach much of things and they put their own hopes into a potential deterioration of the relationship. but it really just hasn't happened. it hasn't happened but, but you see what's happening now, ross, russia and china, they keep talking about the interest in building this multi polar world 1810 months ago. and was really talking about the birth of this new multi polar. well, you saw china making a historic visit to re add recently, essentially saying to opec plus more petro dollar. so i mean when you talk about the power mechanisms of the world, a lot of people are saying that shifting eastwards is that connected with this

multi polar world? that's a great question. but we also should keep in mind that going back several us presidents, for example, not just bided or, or the trump in ministration, but obama talked about a read balance or repeat it. i think george w bush also attempted to put more effort into us relations with, with asian gooding, with china. and the e u countries in britain famously went with it's called in arrow relations with china, which is now ended. but i think a lot of the parts of the world, not just the middle east, or the u. s. africa, they're all looking to use asia because that's where the economic growth has been for a lot of the past 20 years. and one of the traditional economic towers is in this part of the world. japan and korea is a rising economic power in different industries as well. so a lot of countries talk about it and we've been talking about it for

a while. so it's not a surprise that countries continue to do so. i ross find golden age a political risk analyst. it's always so good to have you on the program. really enjoy the opportunity to, to basically pick your brain. thank you very much for your time today. thank you. well, thought of putin has said that russian forces are currently up against almost all of nato's entire military potential. i was during a panel session with his ministry of defense. but actually, this machine is well known that now against russia, which is actively used the military potential and cap abilities of practically all the main countries of nato. nevertheless, our soldiers sergeant's health histories that are fighting for russia in bravely in the and they fulfilled the tasks that are given to them. and these objectives will be accomplished in all the territories. so the russian federation,

we've got to take this conversation for the areas are tease correspondent donald quarter. hi donnell. great to see you. you've been on the sidelines of this meeting and wow, you know, some serious topics covered by both put in and of course the defense secretary survey showing that it was, well, give us some of the, the highlights if you would. hi there, rory. well, aside from focusing on the threat that ne nato and the u. s. are opposing to russia's national security. russian president vladimir putin also focused a lot on the need to keep the russian military up to modern standards. why don't our prudent focused put specific emphasis on the use of combat drones, both aerial and land based. he said that the special military oper operation has shown that drones are used everywhere on the modern battlefield. and russia has the industrial capability to kick up their production. we also heard boot and say that it's very important to continue to supply russian troops with the latest modern combat. basic equipment like uniforms, boots, medical equipment,

as well as rightful from the latest generation. after all, russia, as president said that the russian state is willing to give the defense ministry as much money as it needs to accomplish its goals. and that goes also for making sure that the countries inter continental sar matt missiles are at the ready, as well as developing, cutting edge hypersonic weapons that you're in the way your immediate you attorney for the 1st time. and you believe we are going to use intercontinental ballistic missile? sorry, not uncommon. beauty, if you mean the troops received miss alt complex's jars white in the beginning of january and next year we are going to put in colombia incompatibility. but with regard to the chorus calling you, we the cutting edge g news, like i said, that has no equivalent in the word hypersonic means cells and systems there naval base via sort of con. now after vladimir putin speech,

we heard from the country's defense minister sir gay, chicago mon, mainly focused on the special military operation in ukraine. he said that russia is there to defend the people of don voss who were attacked by the key of regime after the euro. my don qu data in 2014 and he said, as always, russia is open to negotiations, but the west has been making the situation worse. day by day. he said that the west has been supporting ukraine in every possible sphere, specifically, and propaganda. in terms of the way that the west has helped ukraine make war criminals and neo nazis out to be heroes in this conflict. now, we also heard that despite enormous casualties that ukraine has been suffering on the battlefield, the west continues to send on an unlimited, practically unlimited amount of weapons to ukraine, which are by and large, falling into the hands of international terrorists. let's take a listen to a more concretely what shy who had to say at this meeting in the post. i have your orders, you.