we had an opportunity to immerse ourselves in russian culture. unfortunately after gorbachev was out, it was all closed down. and there's no russian presence in burke enough or so anymore me. and people don't learn russia anymore. no, they don't. last, at the moment there's nothing russian and berkener faso except maybe some weapons. but besides that there's nothing at all. i really love if russian experts like engineers and perhaps experts in other areas that to come to book in a face. so perhaps there could be new culture centers and children could start learning ration at school or process. why not? that's exactly what we want. you know, i'm here now and i want to learn russian too. so maybe russian language programs could be the next step right now. there are no opportunities to learn russian. i could see some writing on the signs around the city, but i can't read them because i can't read russian. but we all really hope that soon enough. those who come after us will be more educated and they will know russian, they will make our cooperation a lot easier. i would also propose to set up

a direct airflow connection between moscow and why ghetto, because when i visited russia for the 1st time in 1988, i travelled by arrow flight. i flew from paris to moscow and from moscow to wag a tow roof. but airflow no longer flies to our country. there was a time when russia had more context with berkener far. so we had lots of transport, communications. we had it all, but it's all gone now. and a question as far with to the channel active international, it continues to expand its presence in africa, in many african countries. do you think crushing broadcasters could some day replace french channels? i don't know about replacing them since our ultimate goal is to have more choices, there is no need for replacement. you can have more of something in order to have more choices. if russia enters our market, the people have broken off a, so we'll have more options. if you bring russian pharmaceuticals here and people see that they cost less but work better than naturally they will choose russian pharmaceuticals. why did i choose arrow flawed, to fly from paris?

to moscow, and then to wag a dog route because i compared the airfare and he was the cheapest option. therefore, frushell products are available on our market and people like them. they will have better variety more options. they will be able to choose products and services that are more reliable, higher quality and cost less for russia wants to come to booking a fast him, mike, kate said, can compete with the biggest players it already present. there was actor that's true players there. russia has not competed with yet, and it would help russia improve its products as well. because as it competes with europe, the u. s. in asia, it can adapt and hold its own position. if you visit our country, you will see lots of cars, imported from korea or japan. many people by day were cars made of vietnam, et cetera. but there is nothing from russia. we would like to see things manufactured in russia. we would like to have more russian products and burke in a foss, so for example, clothes and textiles. this would enrich our market and become a positive competitive factor that would ultimately benefit our consumers. give it

a skirt of do you think there is an audience for russian television channels in frank r in gresham to the money. it depends on the product that will be offered. honesty, accessibility and quality. if russian channels can compete on the media market, people won't have any reason not to choose their content. moreover, people are getting tired of the traditional mainstream media. everybody knows about france, 24, c n n, but people don't know much about russian broadcasters. so you would have an advantage by simply offering something new. china, for example, broadcasts in our country, and people watch their channel. so if the russian broadcasters are competitive, there is no reason why they shouldn't be on our market along with the others. st. wrapping up this, i was program here on asi international as a way so good to have your company. thank you for sharing a time with us here in moscow. returning now at the top of the hour with more of your weld storms. ah,

ah, ah ah . hello and welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle piece in ukraine. seems essentially impossible, and there is a reason for this. nato wants russia to be completely defeated. russia and turned demands new pan, european security structures, protecting it's interest. as long as nato exist, there'll be no peace or security for anyone. with cross stuck in ukraine, i'm joined by my guess pet escobar in paris. he's an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia and brussels. we have look rebate. he is an

independent journalist and in kingston we cross who general 70. he is founder and director of trends research institute and publisher of the weekly trends journal magazine or a gentleman cross huck rules and the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you 1st here. there's a huge aysa asymmetrical process and play here. the europeans, the west collective wants to see russia completely defeated. russia wants security guarantees, and i have a solution to it. and it's a simple one. why don't work towards peace, and that's something that the west will never do. pepe, of course not. and they keep saying that every day, via still defining salt and berg. my american generals via antonia will terrace. the, sorry, portuguese, ahead of the you. when i read she in london every day we have a call to our sound by from one of these. of course,

not to mention the 28000 or 20000000 functionaries in brussels saying exactly the same, same plan a continues on schedule plan a is forever war. land a is afghanistan on steroids, at least on, on a 20 years. there's no plan b. so for russia, they can play it okay, which into and finish this thing in 20 minutes, which they can or okay. all right, let's skip going little by little inflicting a very refined the form of chinese torture on nato as a whole. and on the west leadership as well. and let's see, one day you're going to cry, uncle. well i, i agree with you general they let me go to you and kingston here that this asymmetrical approach here because this explains how rushes preceded in ukraine because it wants security guarantees. it's not going to, um, take land that he can determine its destiny. okay. they're not going to go in in

libra. she's not going to do this in 5 years in another 10 years. this is why this is a defining event in this century. here, there has to be security guarantees for all, or there'll be security guarantees for none. go ahead. you know, this is the american way. as of that, they were saying once upon a time there was a president to united states by the name of dwight d eisenhower. 5 star general supreme commander, the allied forces a to charm president is say, a well, a jess, january 17th, 1961. he was the american people that the military industrial complex is robbing the nation of the jesus sciences to sway the labors and the future. the children and that sort americans become i just turned 76 years. all world war 2 is in ancient history. look at all the was america's been since then. it

like the korean. oh no. i like the vietnam war. a have out the 1st iraq war and i like the 2nd iraq war a lot better. you know, the afghan war was terrific. it only lasted 20 years. oh, what about what's going on in somalia? how about the nobel peace prize winner brock o'bonham? i want that guy gadhafi out of there. i want that guy assad added a livi in, in syria, qaddafi and livia. the united states just passed a defense budget of $858000000000.00. so a $105000000000.00 of our money now is going to ukraine. 63 percent of americans living paycheck to paycheck. it's the american way. and it's not stopping this is my magazine from

spring 2014. that happy face on their washington is driving the world to fight the final war worlds. a gemini is not a right america has earned article written by dr. paul craig roberts, former assistant treasury secretary of the ronald reagan. and he talks about russia, conclude wash, included, that russia needed to be confronted with or distracted by problems that would leave the russian government less confident or able to counter washington's aggression elsewhere. ukraine presented to perfect opportunity for washington. okay, geral, jaron, gerald on that on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me, let me go to look here, get everybody in the mix here. a look at, i mean it because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees as reason why we're in this mess and the 1st place, okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well,

unilaterally make its own decisions. if it doesn't happen to interlocutor, then it will make its decisions on its own and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever. because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of the major is over, well, of course in the conflict since day one and dumb because we follow america and we should, europe should dissociate from america on this america. it wants war rush. we don't, we should we europeans? oh, so the victims half is on. so we need to find a p strategy and should look, for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary, countries, whether leaders are responsible. people say, yes, we must have something on the medical front on the social front and things, but not send arms and be part of that conflict with your stalls and beg and mental, we should not do that. well, i, you mentioned

a lower octane thinker sultan burg. let me go back to peppy here. well, that's exactly what he is. ok now, has had one journalist ever asked him a hard question. ever, never, it's never happened. okay, and that's, that's by design. peppy notes. tell the bergs as a victory for rushes or to feed for the west. yeah, yeah. that's what i think i agree with them on. okay. but of course, no, no, it's not part of the conflict. okay, i mean, it's absurd. what this man says here, but i agree with them and i was actually, it will be the end of nato. the way that if they continue the down the path, they are pepe. go ahead. well, of course, with nobody knows what the general or the russian general staff is. splaining mid term and long term. nobody acquired from a putting partnership in may be jurassic woven showing. good. did they have a menu which is so juicy, in terms of inflicting geopolitical and g way konami pain,

different levels of the dial on europe and only u. s. which is, you know, you have to laugh about it and the bill to dismantle. ah, they tried to remember what they were try when year ago diplomacy? you remember indivisibility of security, right? those letters sent to the pentagon and to brussels. you all remember the non response response. you all remember what happened next, which was the preparation sort of blitzkrieg against non boss. so we know everything that happened up to the beginning of the s m o. and we also know how russia is, has been to weaken the approach stores the s m o, which is now for all practical purposes, the electrification jumping on top of dina's, if occasion and demilitarization it's working. and on top of it, they get absolute chaos and panic. all across the u. this is something that you see

from outside the u. i just came back from brazil, which is in a very sorry state after the boss on our project. and even from brazil, looking at your bill, seeing as birds is not that bad. i mean, you bring up a good point. if i go to gerald on this one here, i mean a, again, after 10 months of the same thing, they say continue to double down on it without any kind of what they claim that ukraine is winning, which is absurd. i mean, this propaganda in the west is absurd. it's ukraine is not winning. pepe is absolutely right. i would even posit that ukraine will turn into a failed state before there is a military decision on the battlefield. gerald, what are your thoughts on that? oh, we said had, from the beginning that ukraine is not going to defeat russia. i have a famous chart of napoleon as march to moscow. ready in 1812 wherein leaves at holland with 420000 troops to attack moscow and comes back with 10000.

and then it was a thing called a world war. 2 operation. barbarossa with a germans killed some 25000000 russians and who were the 1st to defeat the germans, the russians. and you mentioned about propaganda and that's all it is. and that's all it ever is. and all the media does is keep selling it. i just found this a couple of days ago. it's from 1960. this is the headline. so he had threatens rocket set spy basins. so now we really hate those soviet right . you read the article of member, this is may 10th 1960 premier. nikita khrushchev warned monday that soviet rockets will shoot down any spite plays. the adventure is soviet soil and his government will take appropriate measures. american plays of flying over soviet jared, sorry, as they put a headline in like this. so if soviet plays were flying over american territory,

it would just be fine. everybody would love it. it's the one is shane, period. paragraphs. it's been going on and it's not only destroying the world destroy this country as well. and it is, can it's going on. i mean, i make and is non stop. i'm again, look in here before we go to the break it up, but, but look, what is the veneer of this propaganda rob program failing? i mean, now we have protests all through europe here. i mean, what in the world you're, the european union is willing to die on the hill called ukraine. that's insane. 40 seconds before we go to the break. isn't saying that i would agree with you when you say that you crime could become a faith state. it is a fail the muppet show since the end of the week of each year. it sum up and show the ukraine politics. so now we see the landscape was since 2012 with properties in london with accounts in the kind of

b and then things are obviously, you know, what you see in all the places corruption, brady, while he has been delayed to fight. gotcha. so it is a real problem to see that the propaganda is really solid for all the media that we have here in western europe. it is the voice of here, and that's why and that's why we're pariahs. ok, but not as you know, rumble. we're on rumble. when a few other platforms will get our word out, the hell with you to my opinion, i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on you're going to stay with our team. ah, ah ah

ah ah, welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered on peter about to remind you we're discussing ukraine. i can go back to pepe in paris yet you are a prolific writer and i really appreciate it. my wife, i don't think i ever really miss a com a couple days ago you wrote something very long article, very good. but this one sentence really stuck out to me. i'm gonna read it everybody here. a quick win for russia would be a loss because nato would still exist. no, russia has to pace this, so it sucks nato into the grinder, your spot on, right, peppy. why don't you explain what you mean there?

ok, without using our collective crystal. busy balls, maybe this is scenario number one, the for the russian general staff because they see that seen only 10 months is being working miracles. so why not? 20232024. and now they have indirect confirmation from all sources that the us wants to prolong this thing, at least until 2025. don't forget the death contract that raytheon passed with the american government to supply them with the state of the art anti missile defense. and guess when they're going to delivered up november 2025. so we have for sure. let me, i'd pepe. i mean, that big. that big 2 things. i mean, will ukraine still exist? that's up in the air? probably not. probably not. but i'm agreeing with you and let me go to gerald, because i think it's really important here because what western media likes to

frame this as a russia ukraine conflict. it's not that it's russia. it's a west the western world, nato world against russia, and the russia is accepted. the challenge, and what i think is, is, is in the cards right here. alright? they want to use ukraine is a cudgel against russia. well, russia will use ukraine to destroy nato, and i think that is in the cards. that's one of the reasons why the russians are taking their time to watch nato exhausted. so, and watch the european union humiliate itself into bankruptcy. go ahead, gerald. yes. in know, in the sense that america is going to keep the war going. a pet, they mention raytheon. where you did. i mean, who is the defense contractor of the united states? i the excuse me, the defense secretary was young. what was his last job sitting on the board of directors, raytheon. so they're going to keep this war going as much as they can. again,

it's the military industrial complex, and i want to make this 100 percent clear. america is at war with russia. yes. it's not a proxy war, and these are the words from lloyd austin, the defense secretary, who said he told nbc, report that the yeah. the reason for us troops in ukraine was they need quote, experts in the country to help ukraine use critical weapons systems. so america is in ukraine, with u. s. troops showing them how to use critical weapons. they are using the critical weapons. if this is not stopped, world war 3 has already begun. and it's going to annihilate the world in

nuclear war. what people don't understand is that you have mentally ill people that are in control, that have a great soul of the demonic socratic spirit. because they, there is not one word you were talking about, protest in europe zipped not, and nothing in america. peace is not allowed to be spoken to her, and we just heard the national security advisor this jake sullivan said. there's no time right now to talk the piece yet because because victory is not within their grasp. luke, just the opposite. a victory is staring them in the face. okay. and, and of these missile systems, the patriots systems. you know, everybody, let's be honest, here the u. s. military has been fighting sheepherders around the world in this century. ok. it's never even even close come to appear. power,

and this is exactly what we're seeing right now. we're seeing all these expensive weapons that don't work there. it's a complete griffin. okay. and look, i don't care how many american advisors go to ukraine. they should be a be aware because the russians have i in the skies. they can see exactly where they are. luc well, as you say, and the, the, the young week are all major. like all the europeans. well really we don't have a mission to the literally. i mean frost crenshaw, i mission for week over you all if they were while. so how can we deliver this? is it 80 pounds to to the ukranian army or, and logan list, i'm sorry. list or from what i understand. at the beginning of the conflict, there were $200.00 german tanks and only 10 of them worked. yes. oh yes. fast who was found? the land was on the head of the european commission. you know, she was minister of defense for

a year and the buddhist via the german army is in texas because of her. so that's a good use of how, you know, in the german speak about. it was a smile, so i doubt that i look and maybe we look i, i can guarantee you, they spend more money at nato to phase than they do on german tax. ok. i can guarantee you that. ok, peppy. you know, the, the thing, the, what you and i have been thinking about i actually in unison over the last few months, i mean, not having direct contact all the time, but we're very much moving in the same direction here. and, and, you know, it's very interesting, rushes is facing the entire onslaught of the west and the world is watching and the world is amazed that russia is taken on the collective west. and it's certainly not losing. i would even say it is winning. if you look at the it, what winning means in the long term thoughts peppy, absolutely. 87808889 percent of the global south as

a whole. and some patches in the global north as well. they have not condemned russia, they have not sanctioned russia, and most of them understand russia's motives and that that's the merits of course goals to absolutely focus. ready russia, diplomacy, you know, run by essentially by love it all, but the, all the deputy prior foreign ministers, absolutely brilliant as well. and of course, the hard nodes which bricks, which soon is going to be bricks plus sion, guy, corporation, organization. the strategic partnership between the russian and the chinese and these interlocking partnerships between russia, china, india, and iran. what i termed a few weeks ago, the quad that really matters. these are the quad or course origin that's really matter. so each terms of soft power globally, russia has got it because they managed to explain their position. this is the thing is they could, they can not, in fact finish this war in 20 minutes,

because this would be a, a re mix of america shocking. all. yeah, and that's not what russia wants. russia wants the global size, the global south on their side. so he has to be a little by little this a form of chinese starch. torture, which is strategic ambiguity, in the words of the russian general staff and the global south bought it. they are on board because they understand that russia now is that the vanguard of this fight against when? well, and if you are showing in pepe and pepe, you know, the global south, they remember the european colonial experience yet. it's not a joke. the russians weren't there, but the europeans were. ok, gerald, this war is not going to end in diplomacy. it's not going to end in negotiations because from the russian perspective there's no one to trust in the west angler miracles admission recently. petro push jenko, the former ukrainian president,

they lied their liars, so there's going to be no negotiated end to this. it will be a unilaterally decided by russia because there's no one to trust in the west. geral . yes. so what you said about merkle and then for a shank of that, they admitted that the minsk agreement was a total fraud just to get ukraine built up stronger so they could fight against the russians. here i'm a trend forecaster, we have a system called global nomics. we're talking right now about, you know, war. so we look at many different fields and one of them, of course, is to look at is what's going on with a global economy. so of course, with the sanctions they put, all russia, you know, of energy prices are going up. there's a lot of hardship in, in europe. that's why you see the demonstrations. what am i saying is, is when all else fails, they take you to war. we are facing age geopolitical, socio economic crisis, the likes of which we've never seen before. that had been brought about by all the cheap buddy they pumped into the system. yet when they forth

a cove at war. so let's go back to a thing called a great depression and what followed it were award to what followed the dot com bust. oh, you mean the war on terror? went on telling what i'm saying is that when the economy crashes, they get the people's mind off it with war. and they are going to do the same thing . now. american people, when i was a kid, dad is hiding under a desk because the russians were going to drop an atom bomb. i remember doing the same same. and i remember i remember. so what i'm saying is you're going a russian nestle just landed in poland and killed school. people done that are they all has to unite. how do you see how quick it happens? how they believe that of 2 people were killed. 377000 over there in yemen. now we

don't care that yemen what. but anyway, what i'm saying, she, everyone is that when all else fails, they take you to war. the global economy is failing and they will get to people's minds austin, misery with war. okay, let me. we have one minute left. look in your crystal ball here. i won't hold it to you, but we're coming to the end of this year by the end of next year. how many governments do you think in the european union will fall? i won't hold her to it. you better? possibly. several. on the andrew i saw the falling government a so so a majority crumble and the opinions within the european union debt change at all. we have phone issues at the european parliament with corruption, bike todd and things. and we see that these people at the european parliament have great ideas about ethics and morality. they're all so it's going to get worse in

europe and the trouble. so he said, i see you depression in future. certainly with america is sending, making a lot of money with the european stupidity, saving us energy, the strong european economy, and making that the euro will never be a kind of you preserve any more. it all gets down to will end on this. it all gets down to being ideologically obsessed and greedy. ok, and then not and hubris said absolutely taking no responsibility for their actions . that's where we end this year gentlemen, as all the time. i want to, thanks my guess in paris, brussels and in kingston. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here, are the see you next time. remember, ross not ah, ah

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