ah ah ah ah hello in welcome to cross top where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle piece in ukraine. seems essentially impossible. and there's a reason for this. nato wants russia to be completely defeated. russia and turned demands new pan. european security structures, protecting it's interest. as long as nato exist, there'll be no peace or security for anyone, with

cross sucking ukraine, i'm joined by my guess pet escobar in paris. he's an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia and brussels. we have look rebate. he is an independent journalist and in kingston we cross who geral, 70. he is founder and director of trends research institute and publisher of the weekly trends journal magazine or a gentleman cross huck rules and the fact that means you can jump in any time you want. and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you 1st here. there's a huge aysa asymmetrical process and play here. the europeans, the west collective wants. it's a c or a russia completely defeated. russia wants security guarantees and i have a solution to it. and it's a simple one. why don't work towards peace, and that's something that the west will never do. pepe, of course not. and they keep saying that every day, why school defining stolt, embarrassed by american generals, via and tony will terrace the story portuguese. that ahead of the you. when i

read she in london every day, we have a call to our sound bite from one of these, of course, not to mention the 28000 or 28000000 function errors in russell's thing is that kind of the same thing. planned a continuous schedule plan, a is forever war. plan a is afghanistan on steroids at least another 20 years. there's no plan. be so far . russia they can play it. ok. we can finish this thing in 20 minutes, which they can or ok. all right, let's keep going. little by little, inflicting a very refined form of chinese torture on natal as a whole, and on the west leadership as well. and let's see one day you're going to cry, uncle, well, i agree with the general. let me go to you in kingston here. this

a symmetrical approach here because this explains how russia has proceeded in ukraine because it wants security guarantees. it's not going to take land that it can't determine its destiny. ok, they're not going to go in and leave. russia is not going to do this in 5 years in another 10 years. this is why this is a defining event in this century. here, there has to be security guarantees for all are there will be security guarantees for none. go ahead. you know, this is the american way, as they were saying once upon a time there was a president the united states by the name of dwight d eisenhower. 5 star general supreme commander of the allied forces and to charm president is say, well, a jess, january 17th, 1961. he was the american people that the military industrial complex is robbing the nation, the jesus sciences to sway the labors and the future. the children and that sort

americans become i just turned 76 years. all world war 2 is in ancient history. look at all the was america's been since then. it like the korean. oh no. i like the vietnam war. a have out the 1st iraq when i like the 2nd iraq war, a lot better. you know, the afghan war was terrific. it only lasted 20 years. oh, what about what's going on in somalia? how about the nobel peace prize winner brock o'bonham? i want that guy gadhafi out of that. i want that guy assad added in living in, in, in syria, qaddafi and livia. the united states just passed a defense budget of $858000000000.00. so a $105000000000.00 of our money. now is going to ukraine. 63 percent of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. it's the american

way. and it's not stopping this is my magazine. from spring 2014, that happy face on their washington is driving the world to fight the final war. worlds a gemini is not a right america has earned article written by dr. paul craig roberts, former assistant treasury secretary of the ronald reagan. and he talks about russia, conclude wash, included, that russia needed to be confronted with or distracted by problems that would leave the russian government less confident or able to counter washington's aggression elsewhere. ukraine presented to perfect opportunity for washington. okay, geral insurance? gerald on that on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me, let me go to look here, get everybody in the mix here. a look at, i mean, it, because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees as reason why we're

in this mess and the 1st place, okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well, unilaterally make its own decisions. if it doesn't happen to interlocutor, then it will make its decisions on its own and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever. because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of the major is over, well, of course in the conflict since day one and done of course we follow america and we should, you should dissociate from america on this america, it once war, russian, we don't, we should, we, europeans are also the victims half is on, so we need to find a p strategy and we should look, for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary, countries where the leaders are responsible. people say, yes, we must have something on the medical front on the social from dish,

but not send arms and be part of that conflict with your stalls and beg and mental, we should not do that. well, i, you mentioned a lower octane thinker sultan burg. let me go back to peppy here. well, that's exactly what he is. ok now, has had one journalist ever asked him a hard question. ever, never, it's never happened. okay, and that's, that's by design. peppy notes. tell the bergs as a victory for rushes or to feed for the west. yeah, yeah, that's what i think i agree with him on. okay. but of course, nato is not part of the conflict. okay. i mean, it's absurd with this man says here, but i agree with him and i was actually, it will be the end of nato. the way that if they continue the down the path, they are pepe. go ahead. well, of course, with nobody knows what the general or the russian general staff, displaying mid term and long term. nobody acquired from a putting potter share in may be jurassic woven showing. good. did they have

a menu which is so juicy, in terms of inflicting geopolitical and g way konami pain, different levels of the dial on europe and only u. s. which is, you know, you have to laugh about it and the bill to dismantle. ah, they tried when you remember what they were try when year ago diplomacy? you remember indivisibility of security, right? those letters sent to the pentagon and to brussels. you all remember the non response response. you all remember what happened next, which was the preparation for a blitzkrieg against non boss. so we know everything that happened up to the beginning of the s m. o. and we also know how russia is, has been to weaken the approach stores the s m o, which is now for all practical purposes, the electrification jumping on top of dina's,

if occasion and demilitarization it's working. and on top of it, they get absolute chaos and panic. all across the u. this is something that you see from outside the u. i just came back from brazil, which is in a very sorry state after the boat on our project. and even from brazil, looking at your bill, seeing as birds is not that bad. i me, you bring up a good point. if i go to gerald on this one here, i mean a, again, after 10 months of the same thing, they say continue to double down on it without any kind of what they claim that ukraine is winning, which is absurd. i mean, this propaganda in the west is absurd. it's ukraine is not winning. pepe is absolutely right. i would even posit that ukraine will turn into a failed state before there is a military decision on the battlefield. gerald, what are your thoughts on that? oh, we said it from the beginning that the ukraine is not going to defeat russia. i have a famous chart of napoleon is march to moscow in 18. 12. we are in lee's

holland with 420000 troops to attack moscow and comes back with 10000. and then it was a thing called a world war to operation barbosa with a germans killed some 25000000 russians. and who was the 1st to defeat the germans, the russians. and you mentioned about propaganda and that's all it is. and that's all it ever is. and all the media does is keep selling it. i just found this a couple of days ago. it's from 1960, this is the headline. so he had threatens rocket set spy basins. so now we really hate those soviet, right. you read the article member, this is may 10th 1960 premier nikita khrushchev warned monday that soviet rockets will shoot down any spy planes. that vento is soviet soil and his government will take appropriate measures. american plays of flying always soviet

territory, and they put a headline in like this. so if soviet plays were flying over american territory, it would just be fine. everybody would love it. it's the warmer shane, period. paragraphs. it's been going on and it's not only destroying the world destroy this country as well. and it is kinda going on, i mean, i make and is non stop. i'm again, look in here before we go to the break it up, but, but look, what is the veneer of this propaganda rob program failing? i mean, now we have protests all through europe here. i mean, what in the world you're, the european union is willing to die on the hill called ukraine. that's insane. 40 seconds before we go to the break. isn't saying that i would disagree with you when you say that you crime could become a faith state. it is a fail the muppet show since the end of the chemical richie right and some up and show the ukraine politics. so now we see,

so landscape was about since 2012 with properties in london with accounts in the kind of be. and then i think obviously you know what you see in all the places corruption, brady, while he has been elected to fight. gotcha. so it is a real problem to see that the propaganda is really solid for all the media that we have here in western europe. it is the voice of here, and that's why and that's why we're pariahs. ok, but not a, you know, rumble were on rumble. when a few other platforms will get our word out, the hell with you to my opinion, i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on you're going to stay with them.

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american house house on meek within the 55 when. okay, so 9 is good fargo speaking when else with we will ban in the european union the kremlin renewed? yup, machine, the state aunt, rush up to date and split our tea spoon, neck. even our video agency, roughly all band to on youtube and patricia, did you think even clifford shelf with welcome back across stock? were all things are considered on peter labelle to remind you we're discussing ukraine

with okay, go back to pepe in paris. yeah, you're a prolific writer and i really appreciate it. my wife, i don't think i ever really miss a com a couple days ago you wrote something very long article, very good. but this one sentence really stuck out to me. i'm gonna read it everybody here. a quick win for russia would be a loss because nato would still exist. no, russia has to pace this, so it sucks nato into the grinder, your spot on, right, peppy. why don't you explain what you mean there? ok without using our collective crystal balls, maybe this is too narrow. number one, the for the russian general staff. because they see that seen only 10 months as being working miracles. so why not? 20232024. and now they have indirect confirmation. from all

sources that the us wants to prolong this thing, at least until 2025. don't forget dest contract that raphael, and fast with the american government, to supply them with state of the art, anti missile defense, and dest, when they're going to deliver that, november 2025. so we have 4 short side, peppy. i mean, that big, that big 2 things. i mean, will ukraine still exist? that's up in the air? probably not. probably not likely, but i'm agreeing with you. and let me go to gerald, because i think it's really important here because what western media likes to frame this as a russia ukraine conflict. it's not that it's russia, the, it's a west, the western world, nato world, against russia. and the russians accepted the challenge. and what i think is, is, is in the cards right here. alright? they want to use ukraine is a cudgel against russia. well,

russia will use ukraine to destroy nato, and i think that is in the cards. that's one of the reasons why the russians are taking their time to watch nato exhausted. so, and watch the european union humiliate itself into bankruptcy. go ahead, gerald. yes. in know, in the sense that america is going to keep the war going. a pet they mention raytheon, where you did, i mean, who is the defense contractor of the united states? i the excuse me, the defense secretary was young. what was his last job sitting on the board of directors, raytheon. so they're gonna keep this war going as much as they can. again, it's the military industrial complex, and i want to make this 100 percent clear. america is at war with russia. yes. it's not a proxy war. and these are the words from lloyd austin, the defense secretary, who said he told nbc,

report that the um, the reason for you as troops in ukraine was they need quote, experts in the country to help ukraine use critical weapons systems. so america is in ukraine, with u. s. troops showing them how to use critical weapons. they are using the critical weapons. if this is not stopped, world war 3 has already begun. and it's going to annihilate the world, a nuclear war. what people don't understand is that you have mentally ill people that are in control, that have a great soul of the demonic socratic spirit. because they, there is not one word you were talking about protests in europe. zip not and

nothing in america. peace is not allowed to be spoken to her, and we just heard the national security advisor this jake sullivan said. there's no time right now to talk the piece yet because because victory is not within their grasp. luke, just the opposite. a victory is staring them in the face. okay. and, and these missile systems, the patriots systems. you know, everybody, let's be honest, here the u. s. military has been fighting sheepherders around the world in this century. ok. it's never even even close come to appear power and this is exactly what we're seeing right now. we're seeing all these expensive weapons that go to work there. it's a complaint. griffith. ok, and look, i don't care how many american advisors go to ukraine. they should be a be aware because the russians have i in the skies. they can see exactly where they are. luc well, as you say and the,

the young week are all major. feel like are your kids? well, really, we don't have to listen to the letter anymore. i mean, frost the french are i, as our nation for over you, or if there were while. so how can we deliver it? 80 counts to, to the ukranian army or a and logan list. i'm sorry, list or from what i understand at the beginning of the conflict, there were 200 german tanks and only 10 of them worked. yes. oh yes. fast. who responded lane was on the head of the european commission. you know, she was minister of defense for 8 years and the buddhist fair, the german army is in texas because of her. so that's a good use or how you know, in the german speak about it was a smile. so i doubt that i look and maybe we look i, i can guarantee you, they spend more money at nato to phase than they do on german tax. ok. i can guarantee you that. ok, pepe, you know, the, the thing, the,

what you and i been thinking about i actually in unison over the last few months, i mean, not having direct contact all the time, but we're very much moving in the same direction here. and, and, you know, it's very interesting, rushes is facing the entire onslaught of the west and the world is watching and the world is amazed that russia is taken on the collective west. and it's certainly not losing. i would even say it is winning. if you look at the it, what winning means in the long term thoughts peppy, absolutely. 87808889 percent of the global south as a whole. and some patches in the global north as well. they have not come then russia, they have not sanctioned russia and most of them understand russia's motives and that that's the merits of course goals to absolutely. ready faults, russia, diplomacy, you know, run by essentially by law for all, but all the deputy prime foreign ministers. absolutely brilliant as well. and of

course, the hard node which bricks, which is going to be bricks plus showing corporation organization, the strategic partnership between the rest and the chinese and these interlocking partnerships between russia, china, india, any run the what i termed a few weeks ago, the quad that really matters, these are the quad, or course the region that really matters. so each terms of soft power globally, russia has got it because they manage to explain their position. this. the thing is they could, they cannot, in fact, finish this war in 20 minutes. because this would be written mix of american shocking. all. yeah. and that's not what russia, once russia, once the global size, the global south on their side. so we have to be little by little, this form of chinese starch, torture, which is strategic, and b, g, u, e, g,

in the words of the russian general staff and the global south bought it. they are all bored because they understand that russia now is that the one word of this fight again? well, and if pepe and peppy, you know, the global south, they remember the european colonial experience that the russians weren't there, but the europeans were. ok. gerald, this war is not going to end in diplomacy, not going to end negotiations because from the russian perspective, there is no one to trust in the west. anglo miracles admission recently. petro pato shank oh, the former ukrainian president. they lied their liars. so there's going to be no to go, shaded into this. it will be a unilaterally decided by russia, because there's no one to trust in the west. gerald. yes, so what you said about merkle and in for a shank of that, they admitted that the minsk agreement was a total fraud just to get ukraine built up stronger so they can fight against the russians. here i'm a trend forecaster, we have

a system called global nomics. we're talking right now about, you know, war. so we look at many different fields and one of them, of course, is to look at is what's going on with the global economy. so of course, with the sanctions they put on russia, you know, of energy prices going up. there's a lot of hardship in, in europe. that's why you see the demonstrations. what am i saying is when all else fails, they take you to war. we are facing age geo, political, socio economic crisis, the likes of which we've never seen before. that had been brought about by all the cheap buddy they pumped into the system. yet when they forth a cove, it was. so let's go back to a thing called a great depression and what followed it were award to what followed the dot com bust. oh, you mean the war on terror? when i'm telling what i'm saying is that when the economy crashes, they get the people's mind off it with war. and they are going to do the same thing

. now, american people, when i was a kid, dad is hiding under a desk because the russians were going to drop an atom bomb. i remember doing the same same. and i remember i remember. so what i'm saying is you're going a russian nestle just landed in poland and killed 2 people done to that. are they all has to unite how you see how quick it happens, how they believe that of 2 people were killed. 377000 over there in yemen. now we don't care that yemen what. but anyway, what i'm saying, she, everyone is that when all else fails, they take you to war. the global economy is failing and they will get to people's minds. austin, misery with war. okay, let me. we have one minute left. look in your crystal ball here. i won't hold it to you, but we're coming to the end of this year by the end of next year. how many governments

do you think in the european union will fall? i won't hold her to it. betting possibly several. on the angel i saw the falling government a so so a majority crumble and the opinions within the european union debt change at all. we have an issue set to european parliament with corruption, bike todd and things. and we see that these people at the european parliament have great ideas about ethics and morality. they're all so it's going to get worse in europe and the trouble. so he said i see depression in future with america is sending, making a lot of money with the european stupidity, saving us l g. be strong, the european to call me. and i'll make it back to euro will never be

a kind of you preserve any more. it all gets down to will end on this. it all gets down to being ideologically obsessed and greedy. ok, and then not and hubris at that. absolutely. taking no responsibility for their actions. that's where we end this year gentlemen, as all the time. i want to thank my guests in paris, brussels and in kingston. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here, are the see you next time. remember ross not ah, ah ah, ah ah,

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