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i greet you cordially. thank you. thank you. your great grandfather is considered a legend among the dwaa people for resisting jim on colonial rule over one century after his death was enduring legacy. or what enduring relevance is there in his words and message my grandfather left quite an impulsive message and to understand the death of my great grandfather, which consider 2 important aspects. the 1st aspect is affronted. cameroon, appears at the berlin conference. in other words, the burning conference that defined the division of africa took place in germany between 18841885. and as a result of the burden conference. cameroon was born, but it was a camera that was born from the protectorate agreement signed by my grandfather, did to oral, among bell and the germans. and the 1st message that to all among gives is that he was the 1st of all camera union kings. because cameron was built on
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a mosaic of different traditions, which has a certain moment met and formed an ensemble which is called cameroon. and he was the 1st one because of the problem that he had with the germans to go around and visit this mosaic in its new borders. and he was saying, what is happening to me now attention is going to happen to you to from this point, the king to all among a bell was the 1st camera, rooney, and patriots. the 1st one who recognized in a profound way the borders of the country, the ever nose to day is cameroon. fuss. it's something that it's a patriotic message. therefore he was the 1st communion patriot. and the message that he leaves. if the, if you give your word a certain level, you must respect the commitments that you undertake. and he undertook a personal commitment. knowing that a certain moment the germans would give him the possibility to escape, that they would probably arrange it. but at the same moment saying that he had to
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return. so he leaves the day before his hanging to meet his family, to say good bye to my great grandfather, to my grandfather, and to the whole family. he says good bye. and when it is finished, even so it gives us an idea of the current to he heard. but we don't have time to develop it here. and after that, he goes back to the prison to accept his martyrdom. when he has attempted to make amends for its colonial past, how difficult is it for you personally and for convenience in general to make peace with his history of violence and genocide? actually, there are several parts in this subject. the 1st part is that we commemorate every year for 108 years, the death of rudolph to wall among a bough. we know that during these 100 years, we commemorate this, but we do not commemorates how to say it a hatred towards germany. i think that it is in the image of sub saharan africa
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that often emerges that in the colonial syndrome, actually, the africans do not go to the source of the colonial mechanism. what happens is that will they assimilate the subject as a historical mechanism? you might have seen if i could just follow up on that. have you personally forgiven the germans for killing your great grandfather? there are 3 things that are very important for me. the 1st one is that, as i often say, our family suffered a lot after our great grandfather died. and we kept from that period what we call a syndrome. because our family suffered from direct consequences, but not only our family. they were direct consequences for the whole world, sauer for the entire katya's community. i think in the sense that it was a moment when the 1st elements of our decadence, he appeared before the period of to all a manga. and in the intermediate period, the de waller the sour in general,
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but especially the dollar. they occupy the entire region and live in great prosperity. the prosperity and expansion were extraordinary at a commercial level, at exchange level. and since this particular situation, the history with germany and the tragic end of rudolph dwell among a bell, there is a decline. the whole sour world suffers the consequences of this historical situation . and one of the consequences today is the poverty of our community. the poverty means that to day, even in cameroon, our community does not occupy its place in the sense that to participate with its status in the evolution of our country. i want to say that the history of the hanging of drywall among for us is something extremely painful. we do not express a direct hated towards the germans, but we have a desire to simply rebuild our community. actually, i've ruled over this community for some time now for 10 years i've worked to organize a meeting between germany in cameroon. and before me, my father worked for 20 years. it means it has been going on for 30 years,
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and i've achieved some results. no doubt the your presence here today is motivated by the fact that i've recently been in germany in a particular commission. also, it means that we are moving now towards a possible answer to the historical elements. and also maybe to the consequences that we suffered at some level. the city of berlin in germany recently renamed esquire, specifically in honor of her great grandfather, road of toil among a bell. what did you make of the gesture for us, it is an honor to know that berlin has a st with a name of rudolph munger. bell. it is already an element of a recognition. but something happened when i helped with the you know, gratian. after that, i was invited by the ambassador to the ministry of foreign affairs. it was simply a desire to look history in the face and establish a common perspective. we live the situation like something relatively important, because it allows us to establish a concrete foundation. because a name to
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a street is not simply just given. it is an important event that shows that there is a desire to understand what we went through during those years. but it is true that the elements build slowly. we do not once i think to go too fast because it is not as simple how to say it's a simple matter of forgiveness actually is about looking somebody at what could have happened and also how we can build something in order to move forward. france recently announced that it wasn't withdrawing from the south region, and gemini also says to be ending in africa operations because of the year. now i just wish to find out from you how much stability to have these to pass brought in africa over the years. we have a controversial point of view on this subject. there is a positive view and a negative view positive perhaps because, as i've just said, there is this notion of globalization and isn't, may be unlikely because that historical events made it so that we stay behind
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relative to the globalization. as we know it to day to day despite everything we participate somehow our country participates in the life of the planets. and there is a gradual evolution in relationships. but france indeed maintains a particular impact. the example of this is the fact that we have a relationship with a currency called to see if a frank and it remains a relative aberration. there is the same, see if a frank in east africa, and strangely, with the same parity. but somehow, this currency can't be used in east africa. the currency of central africa can't be used in east africa. it is necessary to convert the money to make a currency exchange. it is a sort of aberration that remains from colonial history. and the subtlety of this currency stays here even so today, there are already ideas about how to transform the situation. because the germans lost their colonies. after that,
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they lost the war in africa in 1916. and the united nations in the 1920s, deprived them from holding amy authority in those colonies. actually, the colonies were divided between england and france. it means that germany no longer had a presence in africa on the country. during recent years, we can see a sort of comeback and not only on the ground, at the same time that germans raise the problem about how to say it. first about rudolph to all among bell and behind this problem of rudolph to all among bell. there is a reactivation of something that became a collective amnesia because the colonial idea and the accidental end of the colonial idea in germany, marks the end of the war that they lost. fuss when we talk about amnesia. it is also an uneasy reflection about something that is not so durable. thought it is one of the reasons because of which they, at their own level return to quickly. today they have a tendency to go back with the knowledge that there are issues that we see between
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russia, the middle east china, the united states, and between the europeans. further explain the somehow the form in which the geopolitical context changes. because africa has a future, and it is something that can't stay behind also because of commercial interests. ah ah, with
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us 2 months i've seen increasing talk of more to polarity. what place do you think africa complete in this? imagine you will order there are a number of things that correspond to recent modern history. i want to say that when africa awakes, and africa is now going through this awakening. first of all, africa has a lot of resources, except the very often these resources are not explored directly at national level, but by international companies. powerful countries are shifting their interest towards africa. why?
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because or is how to say a lot of interest. not only at the population level, africa is a densely populated continent. it means that it is a market for consumption. besides, the africans are improving in quality, and consumption takes relatively big dimensions. it is something that corresponds to the interest of the northern powers, as they are called, because they are interested of course, not only to have a relationship with africa in the present time, but also in the future. so so me, it's like we see today how morocco made it to the semi finals at the world cup is, is big news. now i think one of the reasons that morocco reached the semifinals is also because a lot of american children the same with some cameroon. in children, so the reality of football in europe and transferred it to their school system somehow is the same with other things. we cannot think the africa will indefinitely be in this position of a 3rd wheel. there are a number of things that gradually appear that we cannot just look away. there are
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reactions, and i'm one of those who think that the africa to morrow won't be a 3rd, will any more? you know, there's something that is little known. the point of view of our diaspora. we have a diaspora that came about because of immigration. in other words, the children left in colonial times or during the neo colonial period. or maybe later in post colonial time, they left to europe or to the west. that is africa and from there the exchange takes another form instead of inside to outside, from outside to inside. and not because others do something. but because the african children have positions which allow them to start creating relationships of a different nature. so as for myself, there is one important thing. first of all, the cameroon has a particularity, compared to where in the world, there are only 2 countries that have these characteristics as well. calendar and cameroon, both french and english speaking. they are both part of the commonwealth except the
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in canada. it is, we're actually relatively the opposite. the english speaking part is a little more important than the french speaking part. and in cameroon, it is the french speaking part, which is a little bit more importantly, english speaking parts. what i say generally, in fact, generally, the fact is that we in our country, beyond that, we have an ethnic group that has its own written language. the bi moons, your majesty, cameroon is a multilingual country with about 247 indigenous languages. what shockingly, only english or french are considered as official languages. do you expect a break from these european languages and the popularization of indigenous languages? will you support that initiative? i believe that having this writing system should see a commitment to linguistic unity. that is, we should start from the idea of this writing system. by this writing system, we can link it to language and then ensure that cameroon returned to
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a national language without naturally denying the languages are already spoken. the european languages. you should know, however, that italy has more regional languages in cameroon. and the only one language impose itself florentine. why not? why is there no such potential for cameroon? and as for myself, i am completely for the african i zation of our reality in all parts known the afterwards, there will be a possibility to translate all literature into a language in 2 systems. we have translators. so this question will not arise whether the scientific level or at any other level. so the question is simple to ensure that we can as myself integrate, except the idea that the national language may be the indigenous language. you know, there is a small particularity at this level of this world cup, all the african countries, which are qualified. all of them for the 1st time have native coaches. and the one who brought morocco to the semi find was, is not an expansion. he is a local person. the one who brought synagogue to the round of 16 is senegalese,
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the one who led cameron to beat brazil at the end of the group stages. is a camera union. it's a revolution. but it was a hobbling of something that is about to happen. it will take some time. so we're not talking about resilience patients, but simply about work to work through to a new era. africa has reached resources, but european investors or european countries are exploiting those resources. how balanced do you think the africa europe relationship is? and how concerning is the issue of exploitation? roughly speaking, the african continent correspondence, 22 percent of international commerce, 2 percent. actually, our resources are the elements of an unequal exchange because they represent raw material and they often come back, transformed with a huge influence on the economy. you are talking to somebody who has in his dna, the sense of the idea of the commercial resource of commercial commitments and
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commercial production and consumption. thus for me, i support the idea of younger generations that can, how to say, forget somehow this complexity that undermines us and be able to develop relations in the global commercial reality. the era of whom allison has officially ended, but many believe that it has reinvented insert itself into what is now known as new colonialism. what are your thoughts about this and what manifestations do you think there are to these phenomena? i've just spoken about the currency. we use, the currency we use is called to see if i frank, this is one of the results of what we call neo colonialism. i would like to give you one small example as proof. when my father was born in 1927 at the moment when he reaches maturity at the age of 2021 in 1947. at that time he could not even imagine that his people would have to leave cam room one day. so his manner of planning to the future was limited by the colonial view and colonial reality. you
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and i, we originally from, we are a generation that lived in independence. this means that we are a generation that saw the relative autonomy of their countries. regardless of who ruled the country, this means that those who ran the country were originally from our villages. it was the lead which came out of our villages. and each of us had the opportunity to make plans for the future. for example, which the president of the republic spoke about. it is true that this is not about all africans, but they're met all. how is it called in the him? steal it, steal together with everything that the meaning of the world steel can include in the modern industrial society. i want to say that in our development, in our growth prospects, we already have billionaires to day. we have a whole lot of people have financial capacity and there are people at that in algeria, in, cameroon, and throughout the african community. they can get involved in economic relations, either by returning from outside to inside or going from inside to outside. germany
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says it is letting african countries resolve their problems independently. without any interference, i reassured by this commitment as for myself, i'm convinced you know what is very good, that in terms of geo politics and politics, actions rarely occur without ulterior motives. so why not? and they speak somewhere in africa of a marshall plan, but there existed actually a marshall plan. this marshal plan is in europe. and this marshal plan has somehow led to a result. is something even if the americans took off, so to say, at the end of 1945 was a boom. an extraordinarily important takeoff, even if it started from the end of the 1st world war in 1918. nevertheless, today we see how india is part of the newly emerging countries. many asian countries including korea, a part of the emerging countries. germany actually has some specific ideas. as for
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myself, i have experience more or less a similar situation when we were ultimately staying with 10 other communion kings. we were invited to germany, it took place a few years ago. there were 2 similar trips. the 1st trip was covered by the german ministry for economic cooperation and development. and the 2nd trip was covered by mister new cur, the special adviser to angler mircle. so i'm very close to this perspective. in any case, i've seen it. i'm simply saying that whatever the truth of germany are, the problem is in the maturity of africans themselves. in truth, it is up to the africans themselves to be able to find a way how they will build integration within whatever support we may receive from abroad. and in such a way, things can be resolved, the african continent is an extraordinarily rich content. extraordinarily rich, it cannot remain indefinitely in such poverty that characterize it with such wealth . when you see the growth rate of the modern economy, when we see for example,
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that shortly, the growth rate of china, for example, has risen by north point 8 percent. the growth rate is something that correspond somewhere to the interest that one can receive from investments compared to the investment itself. it is the rate of return of investment. if the growth rates are very low, that means the rate of return has some starting point to receive profit. african countries always all have growth rates above 0. if you look ultimately at countries like the countries that we influenced, they often have very low growth rates. and so they look our continent with a lot of lust with a lot of desire. knowing that behind this growth rate, there are a lot of investments. and of course, a return on those investments. so for me, the spirit of this growth rate determines the interest in african countries, and more especially to me go forward, the more we say to develop. finally, i'm surprised by one thing to tell the truth. the cameroon and minimum wage is
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around $35000.00 c, if a per month. this is the minimum wage. the french minimum wage is around 100-120-1300, almost $1500.00 euros per month. that means when i'm going to manufacture a product in france, me, how can i say that? i have to include the value of my payroll in the value of my product, then. and as it is very heavy, it means that the products will be affected. when i have a country that has a minimum wage of 35000 francs next door, that simply means i have a job, a real potential to be able to do things that can have an impact on many levels except that effectively the whole question is to ensure that this maneuver can provide genuine quality. finally, the power of our maneuver in the world. one of the things, one of the things that has kept the power of modern china remind, was simply the fact that it had a low minimum wage rate. and besides that,
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the quality and power the export was relatively developed. so that means us myself . africa is in el dorado and an el dorado, which is still poli explored nowadays. a naturally poly exploited israel highness giant. you can woo dwell among over. thank you for speaking with aren't in this, is it mm sh ah, the claims of the king of the belgians leopold the 2nd to the congo were finally authorized by the leading european countries in 1885. in the very heart of the african continent, a state under the rule of the belgian monarch was declared. since the beginning,
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the congo free state was total may him for the local population and functioned as a universal concentration camp. the majority of the population, including women and children, were forced to work on the rubber plantations. those who failed to fulfill their quota were beaten and mutilated. to keep the congolese people under control, the king set up the so called for spook leak, which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the captured country and its inhabitants. fearing that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals, the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet use. and as proof presented a chop hand of an african. it was not uncommon when trying to justify the use of the ammunition, the colonist amputated the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo
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turned into a real genocide in only 20 years. the policy of the belgian led to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocaust, that genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. ah ah, well i am a ah
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