[000:00:00;00] hulu ah, ah ah, hello in welcome to cross top, where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle piece and ukraine seems essentially impossible. and there's a reason for this. nato wants russia to be completely defeated, russia and turn demands new pan. european security structures, protecting its interest. as long as nato exist, there'll be no peace or security for anyone.

with cross stocking ukraine, i'm joined by my guess pet escobar in paris. he is an independent geopolitical analyst, an author specializing in eurasia and brussels. we have look rebate. he is an independent journalist and in kingston we cross who geral, 70. he is founder and director of trends research institute and publisher of the weekly trends journal magazine or a gentleman cross hoc roles and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate pepe. let me go to you 1st here. there's a huge a samantha asymmetrical process and play here. the europeans, the west collective wants to see russia completely defeated. russia want security guarantees, i have a solution to it. and it's a simple one. why don't work towards peace, and that's something that the west will never do. pepe, of course not. and they keep saying that every day, why school defining stolt,

embarrassed by american generals, via and tony will terrace the story, portuguese, the head of the you. when i read she in london every day, we have a call to our sound bite from one of these, of course, not to mention the 28000 or 28000000 function errors in russell's saying exactly the same, same plan a continuous on schedule plan a is forever war. plan a is afghanistan on steroids, at least another 20 years. there's no plan be so far. russia, they can play it. ok. we can finish this thing in 20 minutes, which they can or ok. all right. let's keep going. little by little you flickering a very refined form of chinese torture on nato as a whole. and on the west leadership as well. and let's say one day, you're going to cry, uncle. well,

i agree with gerald. let me go to you in kingston here. this a symmetrical approach here because this explains how russia has proceeded in ukraine because it wants security guarantees. it's not going to take land that it can't determine its destiny. ok, they're not going to go in and leave. russia is not going to do this in 5 years in another 10 years. this is why this is a defining event in this century. here, there has to be security guarantees for all are there will be security guarantees for none. go ahead. you know, this is the american way, as i was saying once upon a time there was a president the united states by the name of dwight d eisenhower, 5 star general supreme commander of the allied forces and to charm president is say, well, a jess, january 17th 1961. he was the american people that the military industrial

complex is robbing taneesha the jesus science is to sway the labors and the future, the children. and that sort americans become, i just turned 76 years old. world war 2 is in ancient history. look at all the was america's been in since then. it like the career. oh no. i like the vietnam war . a have out the 1st iraq when i like the 2nd iraq war, a lot better. you know, the afghan war was terrific. it only lasted 20 years. oh, what about what's going on in somalia? how lot to know bell peace prize winner? brock o'bonham. i want that guy gadhafi out of there. i want that guy assad out of there living in in, in syria, qaddafi and livia. the united states just passed a defense budget of $858000000000.00. so

a $105000000000.00 of our money now is going to ukraine. 63 percent of americans living paycheck to paycheck. it's the american way and it's not stopping this is my magazine from spring 2014, that happy face on their washington is driving the world to fight the final war. world. gemini is not a right america has earned article written by dr. paul craig roberts, former assistant treasury secretary of the ronald reagan and he talks about russia, conclude wash included, that russia needed to be confronted with or distracted by problems that would leave the russian government less confident or able to counter washington's aggression elsewhere. ukraine presented to perfect opportunity for washington. okay, geral insurance, gerald on that. on that note, i agree with you. okay, let me,

let me go to look here. get everybody in the mix here. luke, i mean it because the nato will not discuss russia. security guarantees as reason why we're in this mess in the 1st place, okay? and as long as they continue to do that, russia will do well, unilaterally make its own decisions if it doesn't happen to interlocutor that it will make its decisions on its own. and what it will not care what the west says whatsoever, because the west really can't do anything about it. and that's what we've learned. luke and brussels go ahead. while the responsibility of nature is over, well, of course in the conflict since day one and done of course we follow america and we should, you should dissociate from america on this america, it once war russian, we don't, we should and we, europeans, also the victims of this country on so we need to find a p strategy and we should look, for example, in turkey. we should look at hungary,

countries, whether leaders are responsible. people say, yes, we must have something on the medical front on the social from dish, but not send arms and be part of that conflict with your salt and beg and mental, we should not do that. well, you mentioned a lower octane thinker, salt and berg. let me go back to peppy here. well, that's exactly what he is. ok now, has had one journalist ever asked him a hard question. ever, never, it's never happened. okay, and that's, that's by design. peppy notes. tell the bergs as a victory for russia. is it a feel for the west? yeah, yeah, that's what i think i agree with him on. okay. but of course, nato is not part of the conflict. okay. i mean, it's absurd. what this man says here, but i agree with him and i was actually, it will be the end of nato. the way that the, if they continue the down the path, they are pepe. go ahead. well, of course, with nobody knows what the general or the russian general staff,

displaying and midterm and long term. nobody acquired from a putting part through share in may be jurassic woven showing good. did they have a menu which is so juicy, in terms of inflicting geopolitical and g, we cannot make pain different levels of the dial on europe and on the u. s. which is so you know, you have to laugh about it and they built this manual. ah, they tried to win it. remember what they were try one year ago. diplomacy. you remember the visibility of security, right? those letters sent to the pentagon and to brussels. you all remember the non response response. you all remember what happened next, which was the preparation, sort of blitzkrieg against dumbass. so we know everything that happened up to the beginning of the s m o. and we also know how russia is, has been to weaken the approach stores the s m o, which is now for all practical purposes, d,

electrification campaign on top of dina's, if occasion and demilitarization it's working. and on top of it, they get absolute chaos and panic. all across the u. this is something that you see from outside the u. i just came back from brazil, which is in a very sorry state after the boss on our project. and even from brazil, looking at your bill says birds is not that bad. i'm happy you bring up a good point. if i go to gerald on this one here, i mean it again after 10 months of the same thing. they say, continue to double down on it without any kind of what they claim that ukraine is winning, which is absurd. i mean, this propaganda in the west is absurd. its ukraine is not winning pepe is absolutely right. i would even posit that ukraine will turn into a failed state before there is a military decision on the battlefield. gerald, what are your thoughts on that? oh, we said it from the beginning that ukraine is not going to defeat russia. i have

a famous chart as napoleon is march to moscow. in 1812 we are in is holland with 420000 troops to attack moscow and comes back with 10000. and then it was a thing called a world war to operation barbosa with a germans killed some 25000000 russians. and who was the 1st to defeat the germans, the russians. and you mentioned about propaganda and that's all it is. and that's all it ever is. and all the media does is keep selling it. i just found this a couple of days ago. it's from 1960. this is the headline. soviet threatens rocket sat spy basins. so now we really hate those soviet, right. you read the article, remember, this is may 10th 1960 premier. nikita khrushchev warned monday that soviet rockets was,

shoot down any spy plates. that vento is soviet soil and his government will take appropriate measures. american plays of flying all resilient territory, and they put a headline in like this. so if soviet plays were flying over american territory, it would just be fine. everybody would love it. it's the warming shane period. paragraphs. it's been going on and it's not only destroying the world destroy this country as well. and his coolness going on, i mean, i make and is non stop again. look in here before we go to the breaking up, but, but look, what is the veneer of this propaganda up program failing? i mean, now we have protests all through europe here. i mean, what in the world you're the european union is willing to die on the hill called ukraine. that's insane. 40 seconds before we go to the break. jake isn't saying i would disagree with you when you say that you crime could become a face state. it is a face, ok,

the map and show since the end of the you can call the cheer and some up and show the ukraine politics. so now we see salons, q was corrupted since 2012 with properties in london with accounts in the are kind of b and then things are obviously, you know, what you see in all the places corruption for a while. he has been elected to fight. gotcha. so it is a real problem to see that the propaganda in the west is really solid for all the media that we have here in western europe. it is the voice of here, and that's why and that's why we're pariahs. ok, but not as you know, rumble were on rumble. when a few other platforms will get our word out. the hell with you to my opinion. i gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break,

we'll continue our discussion on you're going to stay with blue, blue, with a ah, by the middle of the 19th century, practically the whole of india had been under the rule of the british empire,

the colonial authorities had imposed that heavy death bringing the people into poverty and were exporting natural resources. and moreover, these authorities absolutely had no consideration for the provisions of the local population, treating them like 2nd class citizens. the british were showing signs of disrespect even to those who cooperated with them. the fact of ignoring the religious beliefs of the hindus led to the mutiny of the see boys mercenary soldiers serving under the british crown. rebellion began on the 10th of may 1857 in the garrison town of may road north of india in the form of a mutiny. the rebels quickly took over daily. the heroic resistance of the indian people lasted for one and a half years. however, the forces were not equal. the colonial authorities dealt with the rebels cruelly. the enslaved c boys were tied to the mouth of the cannon and were shot right through their bodies for the amusement of the public. this type of execution was

called the devil's when the obliteration of the mutiny resulted in the death of 800000 inhabitants of india. however, the british empire never broke the free spirit of the indians and their will for resistance. welcome back to cross stock where all things are considered on peter about to remind you we're discussing ukraine. ah . okay, go back to pepe and parents. yeah, you're a prolific writer and i really appreciate it. my wife, i don't think ever really miss a. com. a couple of days ago you wrote something very long article, very good. but this one sentence really stuck out to me. i'm gonna read it everybody here. a quick win for russia would be a loss because nato would still exist. no,

russia has to pace this. so it sucks nato into the grinder, your spot on, right, peppy. why don't you explain what you mean there? ok, with, without using our collective crystal. busy balls, maybe this is scenario number one, the for the russian general staff because they see that seen only 10 months has been working miracles. so why not? 20232024. and now they have, in direct confirmation from all sources that the us wants to prolong this thing, and at least until 2025, don't forget dest contract that raytheon fast with the american government, to supply them with the state of the art anti missile defense and guess when they're going to delivered up november 2025. so we have 4 short. i'd peppy. i mean that big, that big 2 things. i mean, will ukraine still exist? that's up in the air?

probably not. probably not. but i'm agreeing with you. and let me go to gerald, because i think it's really important here because what western media likes to frame this as a russia ukraine conflict. it's not that it's russia, the, it's a west, the western world, nato world against russia and the russia is accepted. the challenge, and what i think is, is, is in the cards right here. all right, they want to use ukraine is a cudgel against russia. well, russia will use ukraine to destroy nato, and i think that is in the cards. that's one of the reasons why the russians are taking their time to watch nato exhausted. so, and watch the european union humiliate itself into bankruptcy. go ahead, gerald. yes. in know, in the sense that america is going to keep the war going. a pet they mention raytheon, where you did, i mean, who is the defense contractor of the united states? i the excuse me,

the defense secretary was young. what was his last job sitting on the board of directors, raytheon. so they're going to keep this war going as much as they can. again, it's the military industrial complex, and i want to make this 100 percent clear. america is at war with russia. yes. it's not a proxy war. and these are the words from loyal austin, the defense secretary, who said he told nbc, report that the yeah. the reason for us troops in ukraine was they need quote, experts in the country to help ukraine use critical weapons systems. so america is in ukraine, with u. s. troops showing them how to use critical weapons. they are using the critical weapons. if this is not stopped,

world war 3 has already begun. and it's going to annihilate the world, a nuclear war. what people don't understand is that you have mentally ill people that are in control, that have a great soul of the demonic socratic spirit. because they, there is not one word you were talking about protests in europe. zip not and nothing in america. peace is not allowed to be spoken to her, and we just heard the national security advisor this jake sullivan said. there's no time right now to talk the piece yet because because victory is not within their grasp. luke, just the opposite. a victory is staring them in the face. okay. and, and these missile systems, the patriots systems. you know, everybody, let's be honest,

here the u. s. military has been fighting sheepherders around the world in this century. ok. it's never even even close come to appear power and this is exactly what we're seeing right now. we're seeing all these expensive weapons that don't work there. it's a complete griffith. ok, and look, i don't care how many american advisors go to ukraine. they should be a be aware because the russians have i in the skies. they can see exactly where they are. luc well, as you say, and the, the young week are all major. feel like all the europeans. well really, we don't have a mission to live right. i mean, frost crenshaw accomodation for over you, or if they were while so how can we deliver this is a bit of 80 counts to the ukranian army or a and logan list. i'm sorry. let's go from what i understand. at the beginning of the conflict, there were $200.00 german tanks and only 10 of them worked. yes. yes. fast who

responded lane was on the head of the european commission. you know, she was minister of defense for 8 years and the buddhist via the german army is in texas because of her. so that's a good use of how you know, in the german speak about. it was a smile. so dad, i look a little, we look, i'm, i can guarantee you, they spend more money at nato bu phase than they do on german tax. ok. i can guarantee you that. ok, pepe, you know, the, the thing, the, what you and i have been thinking about a, actually in unison over the last few months. i mean, we're not having direct contact all the time. but we're very much moving in the same direction here. and, and, you know, it's very interesting, rushes is facing the entire onslaught of the west and the world is watching and the world is amazed that russia is taken on the collective west. and it's certainly not losing. i would even say it is winning. if you look at the it, what winning means on the long term thoughts? peppy?

absolutely. 87808889 percent of the global south as a whole. and some patches in the global north as well. they have not condemned russia, they have not sanctioned russia. and most of them understand russia's motives and that, that's the merits of course, goals to absolutely faultless russia. diplomacy, you know, run by essentially my lover, all but the, all the deputy prior foreign ministers. absolutely brilliant. as well, and of course the hard node which bricks, which soon is going to be bricks plus sion guy, corporation, organization. the strategic partnership between the russians and the chinese, and these interlocking partnerships between russia, china, india, and iran. what i termed a few weeks ago, the quad that really matters. these are the quad or course to reach. that's really matter. so each terms of soft power globally,

russia has got it because they managed to explain their position. this is the thing is they could, they can not, in fact finish this war in 20 minutes, because this would be a written mix of america. shocking. all. yeah. and that's not what russia wants. russia wants the global sized, the global south on their side. so he has to be a little by little and this a form of chinese starch, torture, which is strategic ambiguity. in the words of the russian general staff and the global south bridge. they are on board because they understand that russia now is that the vanguard of this fight against? well, and if you're showing in pepe and pepe, you know, the global south, they remember the european colonial experience. you know, it's not a joke. the russians weren't there, but the europeans were. ok, gerald, this war is not going to end in diplomacy. it's not going to end in negotiations because from the russian perspective there's no one to trust in the west angler

miracles admission recently, petro put a shank o, the former ukrainian president. they lied their liars, so there's going to be no negotiated end to this. it will be a unilaterally decided by russia because there's no one to trust in the west. gerald. yes. so what you said about merkle and in for a shank of that, they admitted that the minsk agreement was a total fraud just to get ukraine built up stronger so they could fight against the russians. here i'm a trend forecaster, we have a system called global nomics. we're talking right now about, you know, war. so we look at many different fields and one of them, of course, is to look at is what's going on with the global economy. so of course, with the sanctions they put on russia, you know, of energy prices are going up. there's a lot of hardship in, in europe. that's why you see the demonstrations. what am i saying is, is when all else fails, they take you to war. we are facing age geopolitical, socio economic crisis,

the likes of which we've never seen before. that had been brought about by all the chief body, they pumped into the system. yet when they forth a cove at war. so let's go back to a thing called a great depression and what followed it were award to what followed the dot com bust. oh, you mean the war on terror? when i'm telling what i'm saying is that when the economy crashes, they get the people's mind off it with war. and they had going to do the same thing . now, american people, when i was a kid, dad is hiding under a desk. there was the russians were going to drop an atom bomb. i remember doing the same same and i remember i remember. so what i'm saying is you're going a russian nest. so just landed in poland and killed. 2 people, dont good at odd. they all have city at night. how do you see how quick it happens? how they believe that

o 2 people were killed 377000 over there in yemen. now we don't care that yemen what. but anyway, what i'm saying she, everyone is that when all else fails, they take you to war. the global economy is failing and they will get to people's minds. austin, misery with war. okay, let me. we have one minute left. look in your crystal ball here. i won't hold it to you, but we're coming to the end of this year by the end of next year. how many governments do you think in the european union will fall? i won't hold you to it. batting possibly several. on the andrew i saw you fall in government, it's also a majority crumble and the opinions within the european union that would change at all. we have issues at the european parliament with corruption, bike todd and things. and we see that these people at the european parliament have

great ideas about ethics and morality, but they're all so it's going to get worse in europe and the trouble. so he said i see depression in future. certainly with america is sitting, making a lot of money with the european stupidity, saving us l a. g. be strong, european economy and making that the euro will never be a kind of you preserve any more. it all gets down to will end on this. it all gets down to being ideologically obsessed and greedy. ok. oh and they're not. and huber said, absolutely taking no responsibility for their actions. that's where we end this year gentlemen as all the time. i want to thank my guests in paris, brussels and in kingston. and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are the see you next time. remember, ross not ah,

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